On 20 November 1960 he spoke at a general meeting in Salt Lake City, in the recording labeled from the Murray meeting. The archive file is labeled Erwin Fischer. The announcer introduces “Brother Irwin Fisher.” In the talk he says that his father came into the work and brought part of the family.1 A second archive copy of the same talk is noted in the sources and is not listed as a separate appearance. The page title follows the archive file, with the announcer’s Irwin Fisher noted as a spoken form of the name.

A compiled WikiTree profile, entered by a living grandson, records an Erwin Carl Fischer, born 14 February 1928 and died 26 February 2001, with the death placed in Los Angeles, as the husband of Rachel Christensen Zitting, a daughter of Edna Aleen Christensen Zitting. That compiled identification is a lead only. It is not a civil record reviewed for this page, and the 1960 speaker is not identified here as that man.2 A birth date, a death date, and his parents’ names are left open until a public record or a family confirmation is in hand.