General meeting, Salt Lake City, 20 November 1960
20 November 1960
General meeting, Salt Lake City, 20 November 1960
Automatic transcript of a general meeting in Salt Lake City on 20 November 1960. The archive file is labeled as the general meeting itself, not as a single speaker. This page is the automatic transcript of that recording, which may include more than one speaker. The text is lightly paragraphed for reading. The recording itself is the source.
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real feeling in our singing. We thank thee, O God, for a prophet. 196. Brother Wayne Horsley, the author of the invocation. Our kind and merciful Father in Heaven, we bow our heads before you this night in gratitude for this privilege. We thank you for this place of assembly, Father. We are able to draw close to one another and feel one another's to express our gratitude in all things for the enlightening that you've given us, for calling us out of darkness and giving us the light of truth. We are grateful, Father, for the power of the priesthood in our lives, and we pray that you'll bless Brother Johnson and his council, that you'll inspire them and unite them in their efforts to build up thy kingdom. We pray that you'll bless those that are traveling,
that they'll be protected and return to their loved ones in safety. And we pray that you'll unite us in mind and in spirit, that we'll draw in the wanderings of our minds and concentrate our every effort in obtaining the spiritual food that is here for us. And we pray that you'll let nothing come in to disturb us while we are thus convened. And we thank you, Father, for all things and pray for thy will to be done.
And we do in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ. Amen. Johnson, the other four brethren are excused tonight. Other parts of the Lord's Vineyard performing a mission. And I felt a little lonesome up here, so we felt like we ought to fill these seats up. But it's wonderful to get together again, brethren and sisters. And what you...
and all of us get out of this meeting is going to depend what we give it in faith. Calling upon the Lord, each and every one of us, that we might be fed, that we might be directed through the mouths of those who are called upon to speak in such a way that we may take to heart those instructions and put them in our lives. We won't just go away from this meeting as is so often the case, and just talk about it. Let's do something about it, brethren and sisters. I'm going to call upon some of the brethren and sisters from the congregation tonight who want to hear your testimony and feel your spirit. I'd like to hear from Sister Margaret Messer tonight. It's certainly a pleasure to be here, and I'm very grateful.
to be able to be here and i surely pray for the spirit of the lord to be with me whatever i might say will be directed by him because i know that if i don't have his spirit i might just as well sit down right now i was very happy to hear my favorite hymn we thank you god for a prophet and i know that if we do what the brethren have told us to do If we have any problems in our lives, if we have any doubts, if we'll take that hymn and read it and concentrate on it and ask the Lord to help us to know what it means that we'll be lifted up in our spirits to heights that we just can't imagine because those words are true. We do want to get to the place where we can say that we love to obey these commands and the commandments of the gospel that the Lord has given us. I feel so grateful to think that in my decrepit condition that I still have a chance to make something out of myself and to become one with my husband. And I know that that's the first desire we should have in our hearts is to become one with our husband.
whether they're still on the earth at this time or whether they have been taken away. The brethren have told us that we can still, and it still is our duty, to become one with them even if they have been taken away. And through staying near the priesthood and doing the things that they have told us to do, to draw near unto them, I know that this can be possible. And I know, too, that there is a great work.
for the sisters in the work of God. But I also know that it is up to us to put forth the effort to let our husbands know that we are interested in becoming one with them. Because I know that they have much work to do. Their bodies, their minds are tired. And if we want to use that for an excuse, we can use it. And we'll find ourselves old and gray.
still be busy and they'll still be tired. And so if we want to draw anything from them, we've got to let them know that that's what we want. We speak and we hear so much as Eliza Arsenault. And I have heard people say that the gospel just came naturally to her, that it wasn't any effort for her to accept the gospel. If you read a little bit of her life, you'll find that it was an effort.
But the spirit that she had with her was the spirit of obedience. And that's what we have to have. The reason that she got so much teaching from the prophet Joseph was that while a few precious moments that he was with her, she drew from him the gospel of her life. And she drew from him everything that she needed to know. She was only married to him for four years.
In those four years, he was on the run, in hiding, in jail, so that we know that he didn't spend many hours with her. But the reason that she got so much out of it, she was desirous of knowing the truth. She wanted to be taught, and she recognized his position as the prophet of God. Now I know that it's up to us to do the same thing.
I know that if a woman wants with all her heart to become one with her husband, she can do it. She can also be a helpmate to him. She can get to the point where she can stand shoulder to shoulder with him. And that should be our aim in life. And if we put our husbands on that spot, they're going to have to turn to the priesthood and get the help they need so they can answer our questions.
and so that they'll be able to guide and direct us. And I know that this can be done. I know that we have to first have the desire, and then we have to become converted to the things that we are taught. And we have to have the spirit of obedience. Even if our husband tells us to do simple little things, sometimes he's only putting us to the test to see if we mean what we say.
which he has the right to do. Now, I am satisfied that if we'll do these things in our life and be serious and want this gospel more than anything in the world and put that first in our life in conducting our lives so that we'll be an example to our children, that we'll get to that place that we want to be. And if we don't want that, we'll go sliding back.
Now, I know that these things can be done. And I know that the brethren have to take the first step. And I know that it's up to the sisters to go to them and ask them and try to find out what they need to know to become one with them so that they will feel that responsibility and go where they can be taught. And this, I feel, is our duty and responsibility.
got to come out from under the curse that has been placed upon us in this life. And I know no other way than becoming one with your husband. I don't know any other way that we can remove that curse. And so we might think that's a simple little thing. But when you make up your mind to start on it, the devil's going to make up his mind that you're not going to do it. And so we must constantly pray for the devil to and kept away from us, that our minds will be alert, that we'll know the steps to take and we'll know the minute that he throws one of his fiery darts at us so that we can work to get the Spirit of the Lord. And I know that if we put these things into practice, that it won't be long until we can be called up rather than constantly being called down.
But I know too that we've got to put forth the effort. We've got to have the desire to do these things. We've got to admit to our Heavenly Father of our sins and weaknesses. We've got to be truthful with our husbands. And we've got to have the spirit of obedience and gratitude. I feel that I can say that I know that my Father knows that I know that I'm under condemnation. And that is the thing that I want to come out from under. And if it takes me the rest of my life to do it, that's what I want to do, as well as come out from under the curse that's placed upon us women. But I'm sure that we can do it. And I'm grateful for these breading and the counsel. And I know that if we even criticize them in our thoughts, that we can lose the Spirit of the Lord.
If a woman even criticizes her husband and her thoughts, she can lose the spirit of the Lord, and her husband will withdraw his mind and will from her. And unless you make up your mind to do something about it, you'll be staying the same as so many say. The gap between us is too wide to do anything about. And I hope and pray that we can take the teachings that we've spread on earth so desperately trying to put over, especially to the women. Because I know there is a place in this gospel for women. I know that there is a place in this gospel for every woman that will apply these principles to her life. I'm grateful for the life of Aunt Susie and the example that she has set. And I hear people say very often,
I hope I can be like Aunt Susie when I get as old as she is. I feel to say that she never will unless you start now. Because I'm sure there hasn't been a time in Aunt Susie's life that she didn't fight for the celestial law and for this gospel. And if we want to follow in her pattern, we have got to start now. We have got to apply these principles to our life.
So that we can overcome our sins and our weaknesses. We have to have the spirit of obedience. A person who is obedient is peaceful. They're going along, minding their business. Their heart is happy. And they're trying to overcome the sins and weaknesses that they have. A disobedient person is just the opposite. And they'll be persecuted.
and unhappy, both in this life and the next, until they finally become, have everything burned out of them, and they'll finally, in the end, have to become obedient. And I think that's a good measuring stick to measure ourselves by. If we're really happy and know that our Father in Heaven knows that we're trying to put into us lives, these things that we're being taught, we're applying that principle of obedience. I don't feel to take up any more time. I didn't intend to take up this much time. But I do feel grateful and thank my Father in Heaven for this Gospel. Because I know that there isn't anything in this world without it. And I hope and pray that I can live the life that you will do the work that you sent me here to do, to overcome my sins and weaknesses, to become one with my husband, that you will be obedient to the laws of God, and to stand behind this priesthood, full-heartedly. I pray for these blessings for each of you, as you so desire, and ask our Heavenly Father to bless us all to this end, and do it in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
This is a wonderful sight. It's one that I'm thankful to have the privilege of seeing. I hope that the Lord will bless me, that I'll be able to say something that will be of benefit to you and to myself. I know that the gospel is true. I know that the men that are at the head of my work The Spirit of the Lord spoke to me when I was a tiny child and told me to stay close to my father because he had to run me through what to do in the kingdom of God. And I forgot about it. Not that I was ever very far away from him in my spirit, but that little incident in my childhood.
I could bear my testimony better by the way I did my work than the way I could talk. And I know that sometimes I fall down in that. But I hope that the Lord will forgive me when I do it wrong, that he'll be able to hold me close and keep me in the right and true path. These things I pray for, and I pray for all of you. And I rejoice that you are associated with us in this work. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
I'd like to hear from Brother Irwin Fisher. Dear brethren and sisters, I had hoped that when he asked me to sit up front just to help fill up the seats that I might fill just that capacity. This is a wonderful privilege and opportunity which I'm grateful for. I can't help but have a feeling of gratitude in my heart for this privilege of mingling with the saints.
I was thinking just the other day back over my past life and I was trying to contemplate just when I received a testimony. My father came into the work and brought a portion of the family, myself being one. I was trying to determine just when it was that I really had a testimony of the work. And I can't say that I really know other than that I feel that i have always had one even though it was not in as strong a degree as i feel it is at this time as i had looked back at my life previous i started to remember one instant after another of where the lord had blessed me and how he had opened the way for me and gone before me and i felt to rejoice and to feel glad in my heart and at the same time i felt
little disappointed in myself to think of how lightly i had taken so many of the beautiful examples that had been placed in my life and i desired to do my best to not let that condition arise again for we certainly have a great deal to be thankful for i have found a great deal of joy in working with the brethren in our occupation for the comfort i've had in seeing them working up the ladder along with me. I feel very grateful for the help that have come in times of discouragement from them. I want to say that I know this priesthood is true. In my contemplating, I thought, where would you go? What would you do if you ever left this work? We are told we don't know what we would do, but the thought that came instantly to my mind was,
There is no place to go. There isn't any other word. Out of all the world, in all the countries, wherever it may be, here is the priesthood. Here is the truth. Here is the gospel. There is nothing else. And how thankful we should be. How few we are when we think of the millions of people. How grateful we should feel in our hearts. I remember back about the time that there was a little friction.
not too many years back. There was a lot of pulling one way and the other. Part of my father's family went one direction, part another. There was a lot of effort made to try and influence me the other direction. It hasn't been my nature to be one to jump fast. Sitting here tonight, ruling, is one of the biggest deciding factors at that time in my life. And hearing him talk in the meetings that we were privileged at that time as brethren to have, the spirit rang true that this is the truth. This man speaks the truth. And the other brethren with him. And listening to the others, they were saying true words from the scriptures they read.
But the spirit wasn't behind it. The feeling wasn't there. And that feeling and that spirit has continued to grow in my heart of the truthfulness of these brethren. I would, to God, if needs be, I could give my life for them. Let's be careful as a people and be diligent to follow the instruction that has been given us. As Sister Margaret has mentioned, we are definitely a people under condemnation. This one is. To have taken as lightly as we have, what we have been given let's apply to our lives and try the lord and see as he mentions in the doctrine covenants if you do what i say how is it when you do what i say then i am bound if you do not what i say then you have no promise thought has been in my mind since the time that we were still in the church as children i remember reading it there and it has never left my mind since
I pray that the Lord will bless you all and give you strength to carry on. And let's have gratitude. Let's remember to be thankful for what has been given. Take courage in knowing that God will help us if we will but do his will. Let's carry a prayer in our heart that when we ask for the kingdom of God to be established, that we mean it. For the judgments that must come first will be terrible. Pray for strength to stand that period.
In my heart I feel to say, let it come. Whether I'm swallowed up in it or not, I want to see the will of God done and see his kingdom set up on this earth. After all, isn't that what this world is being created for? That we in our feelings hold it back. We desire to support the purposes of God because of our temporal feelings or affairs. More to say at this time, I pray that God will bless us with sufficient strength to stand.
and to give the brethren our full support. Blessings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, amen. To hear from Brother Clarence Wayman. It feels good to me and sisters tonight. It will bless me that I'll be able to have his spirit to guide my remarks. I'll be able to say something that will be in accordance with his will. Say that the enjoyment that I get in my life is to associate with brothers and sisters in the gospel and sisters wouldn't amount to much if didn't have the gospel in it without the spirit of the lord and the priesthood and have much to receive out of the gospel striving to prepare ourselves and get behind this priesthood that we may be able to establishing of the kingdom of god here on the earth brothers and sisters that if we desire to support this priesthood
we should strive to get the spirit of god and keep it for individual lives talking to one of my young sons this evening he explained a little bit about the path of life telling him that when he started out he was starting down a path he came to a place where it went in two directions that he had to decide which direction he was going to take i told him that He had already made his decision. There was no in-between. Either go in the one direction or the other. The point where he made his decision was when he was baptized. The covenant and the promise there follows the Lord. Do his will and keep his commandments. Prophet Joseph says that this is the covenant that we made when we entered into the waters of baptism. That we do the will of the Lord.
Most of us realize that the biggest thing that would deprive us of having the Spirit of the Lord would be disobedience. The Lord tells us that to learn to do is to live by every word that proceeds forth from His mouth. All of it. Our hearts are right. We desire this. We'll be able to have His Spirit, the priesthood. And to you, it is necessary for this Spirit to guide us back into the Lord's presence.
existence certain covenants and promises we do when we came here it's only natural if we come here and our memories taken away of what we've done the only thing that can guide us straight and bring these things back is the lord's spirit under the direction of his priesthood we're told that it's impossible to please god without faith if we obtain the knowledge ages and ages ago and that knowledge was taken away we won't be able to please him without faith this faith we can obtain his holy spirit support this priest will be necessary to get the spirit of god in their own lives salvation cannot be administered only by revelation and authority of the holy priesthood isn't worth wouldn't be worth living without this yourselves why we're really here i'll back brother johnson told us that if we had any other motive
Seek to be exalted in this celestial kingdom and to become Adam's and Eve's. If we have any other motive, we're wasting your time here. This is serious business. Become our profession. Be saints. A saint is a sanctified person. What does it profit us to gain the whole world and lose our own soul? We often talk about the work of individuals. This work that we have is to overcome evil in our own lives, strive to save our souls. If we can do this, then collectively and assist in the work of God, we'll be prepared that we may be usable. In searching our motives, we might consider whether we love this gospel, this work or not. If we don't have a true love, a genuine love for this work, we'll not be able to endure in it.
will come if something will come along and take us out. It's necessary for us to have a true love in our hearts for this work. It's a great joy to me to say again to be associated with you and to have the opportunity of partaking of this gospel plan. I feel like it's my responsibility to do my part as much as anyone else has a responsibility in it.
If we will strive to overcome evil in our own lives, we'll be able to support the priesthood. It is their work to put down evil, prepare saints. The authority of God is to administer his law. We're striving to live the laws of the priesthood. How could anyone suppose that we could partake of and live the laws of the priesthood without the direction of the priesthood?
This is a priesthood work, and it will be necessary to live the gospel under its direction. And through it, we'll be able to obtain the Spirit of God. I pray that we'll be able to do these things in time. I pray that we'll all be able to have enough time to do these things. We may prove worthy, and after we leave this life, be able to associate together again. I ask this in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
My dear brothers and sisters, I desire that you will lend me your faith and prayers that I might be able to, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, gather together the many and rambling thoughts that have been going through my mind. Edified and pleased in listening to the remarks that have been coming to us to this point. I feel that this people has come to a time that you might say an awakening. It strikes me both...
from center to circumference, my brothers and sisters, when I think of the restoration of the Holy Gospel well over a hundred years, and yet the Lord is still laboring and trying to establish a people upon whom he can place the responsibility of the kingdom. I trust you. will not criticize me, my brothers and sisters, when I try to illustrate we feel, I'm sure, that we are the Lord's people and he's laboring with us and is placing some confidence in us. And yet, I feel that in one respect that we are much like the church of which we find ourselves many times trying to criticize. You can approach many members of the church and they will say, yes, I believe in plural marriage, but the time is not yet that we are not good enough or strong enough to live such a principle and they have been excusing themselves away from
a saving principle of the eternal gospel. And certainly you say that you can't criticize me, Brother Doc Steder, in this respect. But I have been associated with this work over 20 years, and I can criticize myself in this respect when the scripture is very plain that the Lord is going to require of us.
both in blessing and in judgment in all things. For he can't be left without excuse that his servants, his handmaidens and the bearers of the holy priesthood must so understand the eternal gospel that they can require both in blessing and in judgment. And I am convinced My brothers and sisters, if we're living in a time, it is so with me, that I look upon my daily activities that I am living by the grace of God. And if you are not, I feel that you soon will be, for it is the only way that one can live and grow in this work.
my comparison of our being like those in the church. We pray, but we do not pray in earnestness. I'll give you a strain of earnestness that I do not always, and I don't know that my family can remember this particular strain, but with my brethren in my own private prayers, For some time, as Brother Irwin expressed himself, I pray to the Lord to send his judgments according to his need of cleansing the earth of all wickedness. And I feel, as Brother Fisher expressed himself, that if we are not in a proper attitude of receiving the consequences, faithful subjects in the kingdom of God. As an illustration, I've been traveling with Brother Horst Lee of late, and we've been reading a little bit in The Life of Brigham Young by Tullidge, I believe, is the author. You say, well, you're reading a volume that is edited by an apostate, but there's some real good in it.
Brother Tullidge has been very careful to give the truth. And I hear among our people, if you'll permit me, my brothers and sisters, to endeavor to make a correction. We can't do this and we can't do that. One of the sores that I can open here this evening that will bleed very profusely to some is the attitude that some takes, but I find that the priesthood is directing, that you can't build up our unit in the south. There's a great storm coming, and what are you going to do? I say we have to build up our faith, and I'll take the condition of George A. Smith at the time the saints were driven out of Nauvoo.
When Samuel Brennan, supposed to be a Latter-day Saint and friend of our people, was in league with the President of the United States in bringing pressure upon our people as they were being forced out of Nauvoo. A group of brethren were together discussing the whole affair and what they should do and the thing that was being discussed that pressure was being brought to bear on people who were being forced from the confines of the United States and that they were being required when they got to where they were locating to give up a portion of the property in which they would acquire to the government and to Mr. Brennan and others. And George A. Smith, in his characteristically humorous way, arose and said, If there be no God, we are a sucked-in bunch of people. As for me, I will take my family across the river and depend upon the Lord. Now that's the attitude that we must take, my brothers and sisters. We can do nothing else.
as a people, but live as the holy priesthood directs. I'm not trying to justify myself in the things that I do, but I'm trying, my brothers and sisters, to live that the Lord might bless us and bless me. For I know, in my experience, I may have been a very slow character and a rough stone to polish up. But I know in my experience that the duties of a patriarch in this work can be blessed. For I am sure as I am standing before you that I know the way for those that the Lord has entrusted into my care. There is no question in my mind. I know that we must live.
Brother Horsley, excuse me, in robbing him of one of his expressions, that we must live as a people, that we can bend the back, bend our back and receive the lash. I'm grateful that the priesthood can call upon me, either in public or in private, for I feel that I must have an opportunity.
to do what is required of one possessing the holy priesthood. Now I'm thankful, my brothers and sisters, and rejoice daily to be a part of this work. As has been said, there is no place that we can turn. There is only one way, and that is to follow the holy priesthood as we know it. Now may the Lord bless us.
of the people and we be comforted. We have nothing but rejoicing to think at this time that we are a group of people that the Holy Priesthood is laboring with and that the Lord has confidence in sufficient to encourage this people to their salvation. May the Lord bless us, I pray in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Brother Alfred Olszewski to talk to us. I'm deeply grateful, my brethren and sisters, for the privilege of standing before you to deliver something of the gospel that could be beneficial to us. The Spirit will direct my remarks. I should just like to read one very brief item which came to my mind tonight, which I have considered as a truly a gem believe i'm getting at the age where i can't do without such occasion always reminds me of brother joseph when he had forgotten his glasses one time you've heard the expression many times isn't that my eyes are bad as my arm that isn't long enough those who know the truth are not equal to those who love it and those who love it are not equal to those who find pleasure in living it. I don't know that that'll be my text, because I haven't got a text. Might be a text for someone else. But in all that I have listened to tonight, and the things that I have reflected upon, and I cannot help but say that the reflections of the gospel are with me constantly, is that in our trying to be saints, we have one great,
drawback. Something that we are slow to overcome. And that is our tradition. I suppose it has been years since any mention has been made among us of the word of wisdom. And I don't know that anyone has taken time and trouble to consider that the word of wisdom is still a part of the gospel. That's not my intention to speak upon the word of wisdom.
But just to remind you that it appears to me, has appeared over all the years that I've been here. And perhaps, as Brother Dockstader mentioned, these 20-odd years that I have been associated with this work, that perhaps at least age might have a little bit to do with what I'm saying. Because certainly in that length of time, we do gather some experience.
And it has appeared to me that one of the things that we do when we come out of the church, that the first thing we do is lessen our obedience to the word of wisdom as the Lord has revealed it. Now, contrary to anyone else, perhaps, I have never objected to the word of wisdom. I'm grateful that the church is still teaching it today. What I'm objecting to is the hypocrisy.
For instance, like in the morning, as I get up and freshen myself up in the bathroom, I have the KSL station on, and prior to the news, Jenny, there comes what is called the Hema of the day. And then comes on the news, and suddenly, there it comes. And mind you, this is KSL, and the church owns it, and no one can get around it.
But there it comes. Winston tastes good like a cigarette ship. I took occasion today to look through the Truth magazine, and there I found an extensive article by Brother Joseph pointing that thing out to the Church. And on that particular occasion, what must have aroused his ire was an advertisement concerning the use of coffee.
As I read it, it is stated that it was merely a full-page advertisement in the desert noose, also owned by the church. That's what I object to, the hypocrisy where the dollar is involved. It makes no difference. But it's understandable, because after all, the only thing that the church worships today is the dollar. You think they're still worshiping Joseph Smith?
or anyone else holding the priesthood, but be that as it may. What I'm talking about is that we come with an attitude into this work, that we want to leave certain things behind, and the first things we leave behind are the things that are obnoxious to the Lord in this work. I don't know of any part of the gospel that excuses you for breaking the word of wisdom.
It amazed me recently being out on the road with someone. Three cups of coffee after a rising. Two more cups of coffee at noon. Probably not at two cups of coffee. And never one but two cups of coffee at three, four o'clock. Coffee before we go to bed. Doesn't matter to me. I don't want to stand here as a saint and say I don't use coffee. I refer you to the things that the priesthood had tried to teach in regards to temperance and all the other things, I couldn't help but reflect that when I'd been here only a short time, that I met Brother Doxtiller on Second South, and he started talking to me about matters of the gospel and told me some things that could have destroyed my faith in the Word of Wisdom, but it didn't.
And I've learned a great deal from him. So why is it? That is the question. Why in the first instance do we try to make ourselves comfortable? Why do we come into this work and try to take care of our passions and of our weaknesses and in the same breath talk about the higher thing? I'm not trying to ridicule what has been said. But it reminds me of what Brother Kimball said, so many of you talk about going into the celestial kingdom when you aren't even worthy to be taken in a kingdom that has no glory. If you want to read more about that, you'll find it in the journals. I won't take time to read that whole thing, although I have it in my notes. The essence is there. I know we talk about being atoms and bodies. Maybe eternities from now, some of us will make it. Some of us.
My main concern at first is to return into the presence of my Father in heaven. Peter said to his Lord, When the time comes, Lord, take me speedily, because I have but one desire, and that is to be with you. Nothing else matters. If I can only be in your presence, irregardless of what it will be, I'll leave that to you. All I want to be is in your presence. And my, what a...
chop it is to get into this place now then in coming out of the church i said i didn't care to speak up on the word of wisdom as such so i would admonish you to read it i've read it twice within the last week and it has so brought me up in my feelings that i have stopped to find the word of the priesthood i've gone through the truth magazine and read a few articles it would do us good to refresh our memory upon ourselves. But now if you come out of the church and you must leave something behind, why don't you leave your whole self over there? Brother George A. Smith has been quoted tonight. He spoke at one time to the people here in Salt Lake and evidently there were some things going on about folks that had immigrated from these foreign countries, like myself. And I guess they were holding their German folk dances and their Swedish
something or other. And they couldn't quite get the spirit of the gospel. Brother Smith says, I wish you'd have come here and left yourselves behind. Why? Because the gospel hasn't changed. And the gospel requires you to come into this work as a babe, free from anything. And what do you try to do? You try to bring your blessings with you. I know it.
The first thing anybody comes into this work, he walks up to the brethren here. Oh, today at least, they'll get a little explanation and pretty soon they'll consent to be baptized. Twenty years ago, they didn't even think of that. They didn't think it was necessary. But at least we're able to convert some of them today that they ought to be baptized. But they're very careful. The men are careful to remind these brethren that in the church they were elders.
What do you call that? You want to be elders in the church? You ought to stay there. You're coming into this work as a new man. I know that so many of you. You're trying to bring all your blessings along. What have you received? For years I've been dwelling upon this subject to find out when did this church go astray? I haven't found the answer yet. But I can tell you this much.
It wasn't in the days of Heber J. Grant that the church went astray, nor in the days of Joseph F. Smith, nor in the days of Lorenzo Snow, not even in the days of Wilford Woodruff. I'll tell you, they were far along when Wilford Woodruff took the whole of the church. They were far along on the road to apostasy, and that's where they are today. They are an apostasy. I like what has been said.
There is one thing that is constantly on my mind, and that is the possibility that I can apostatize. Enough of us don't live with those things. No, we're good saints. We carry the holy priesthood. We're standing high. Nothing is going to happen to us. Am I true in what I'm saying? I'm not here to stand and speak at the top of my voice. Is it true? Have you considered?
that you have as much chance to apostatize as had the three witnesses, as had most of the Quorum of the Twelve, as had Judas Iscariot, and as had men in our day, men that were being fed by the priesthood, the things Brother Fisher was talking about. I tell you, I'm grateful that nobody had the courage to come to my home and lay some long plan before me. I wouldn't have had the patience.
Whoever would have come, I think I would have called on my big brother to help me, and I would have just ungentlemanly like eased them out of the house. Why listen to apostasy? Why? You have this desire of wanting to be fair about all things? You're deceived if you think that there's anything fair about the devil. I would rather never meet that good soul, because I wouldn't think that I'd have enough in me to withstand his trickery. There is nothing fair about him, nor about his fallen angels and all the evil spirits. There is nothing fair about them. And there is nothing fair about an apostate. I think it was the prophet who said he wouldn't, or Brigham Young, it was Brigham Young who said he wouldn't cross the street to shake hands with an apostate. He had no desire to save him.
You've left them in the hands of the Lord and that's where they belong. Then why listen? Don't you think you meet apostates? There's one thing I've never forgotten. I used to work with Brother Guy and I couldn't, can't possibly forget this incident. Many, many years ago, before he was a member of the council, he spoke upon the subject of apostasy.
And he made some remarks regarding how many of this people would apostatize. And immediately he got a few lickings back. He went to Brother Barlow and said, Brother Barlow, I'll be willing to apologize and to retract anything that I have said that is wrong. Brother Barlow said, you haven't said anything wrong. He went to his father and made the same offer. And his father said, you haven't said anything wrong.
And I will give it to you as a rule that any time you stand before this body of saints at this time, you can take it for granted that 50% of them will apostatize. I couldn't forget, as I can't forget many other things that man has taught me. Now, do you live with these things, my brethren and sisters? Do you? Or are you so assured of your salvation?
But those things don't ever cross your mind. Are you so sure you're doing the things that Sister Margaret talks about? And I'm grateful that I had a chance of listening to her twice today. I made a little remark not too long ago to Brother Guy. We had met and talked about some things, and he also mentioned the very same things, speaking to the saints. So I shook hands with him, and I...
Said I was grateful I had a chance to listen to it a second time. There's a great number of things I've listened to twice and three times. And I'm glad I'm here. I want to live with the truth. Nothing else. I love it. But I know that I'm not equal to those who live it. And I won't be equal until I live these principles of truth myself. That's what we're here for.
nothing else matters, but to put into application the principles that have been revealed to us. And what are they? Where is this body that is ready to do the will of God in all things? Mr. Margaret spoke beautifully about women doing the will of their husbands. I want to give you one little item. Maybe it doesn't apply to all of you.
It's applied in my life. I know it has applied in the lives of a lot of other people. And it is something that no woman will consent that a man knows anything about. You go to section 88 of the Doctrine and Covenants. And in preparation for opening the school of the prophets, the Lord commanded them, cease from all your light-mindedness. Cease.
to be idle cease going to bed late and learn to arise early pretty soon i shall be married 25 years and i must have read that little thing to my wife i don't know for how many times and to this day i get the same answer woman's work is never done and in my whole household there's a tendency that everybody likes to go to bed late except that. And I guess I'm an evil person because I can be found retiring at nine and at ten o'clock. And I never arise later than six. We're a somewhat large household. Just one person out of that household trying in this little respect. Why is it? How are you going to be one, sisters, if you have this feeling that your husband doesn't know what he's talking about?
or never mind the husband. Don't you believe the Lord? You mean he didn't know what he was talking about? He didn't see far enough ahead? He didn't know that we would have electric lights that would turn the house into daylight and would never let us know the difference? That was good enough in the days of the prophet Joseph when man had to go out and carry the wood in in the morning and make a fire. I've done that a couple of times down south on my visits.
But in our modern day and age, we don't have to do that. There is so much written. There are so many books available. Why should we cease this like-mindedness? What is like-mindedness? Everybody ought to enjoy a good joke. The Lord says, cease from all your loud laughter. Just go to the show. Sit alongside a couple of saints. Don't sit alongside of me. I quit going to the movies because I would rock in the hour.
It reminds me, referring back to the word of wisdom, and this is serious, because I think it's a wonderful thing. I won't say who said it, but he said to me, referring to the use of wine, he says, I will not touch it because I'm afraid I could learn to like it. Take that as a criterion. It was a servant of God who said it. Let that be a criterion in a lot of things that you do.
And you're going to movies and to going other places. Cut out a few things unless you could learn to like them. And learn to do the things of God that you should like, that you should love. And then you might be on the road of doing a few things that you've heard about constantly. I don't think I'm much of a preacher. I make too much noise sometimes.
quietness of anyone's home and discuss the matters of the gospel. I don't know of anything that touches me more. We don't often talk about the things that influence us, but I want to take a moment to give this to you. A little more than a year ago when Mr. Khrushchev of Russia was here the first time. I was in New York at the time.
And he heralded himself as the man of peace. And on my way to a business appointment, I was standing by the Pennsylvania Railroad Station where he was supposed to arrive. He came in a closed car out of the station, and I don't think anybody saw him. I didn't. I saw more of him afterwards on TV. But there was one significant thing about this whole business.
There I was squeezed in the middle of thousands of people. Where I was standing, I think they must have been 20, 25 rows deep. I don't know how anxious the people were to see this man, this supposed man of peace. But there was one thing that everybody was doing. If they weren't praying, they were at least talking about it. And this is the thing they said.
that no one in this city will be foolish enough to lay a finger on Mr. Khrushchev and hurt him, because that will set off a war. Millions of people with just one desire. Who but an enemy could create that kind of feeling? I'm no more in favor of communism than I am in favor of capitalism.
And I don't know but if Mr. Eisenhower had gone over there that perhaps some of the Russian people might have said the same thing. Please let's not harm him lest this will start a war. But here are supposed men of peace going into the world and what do they bring? Fear of war. And if there are any men of peace on the earth they are here tonight or in some other part of this vineyard. But if they're men of peace, they have the gospel of Jesus Christ with them. This only leads to the experience that I want to relate. I think it was about my third day after arrival in the city, but I was on my way back to my hotel, walking on Broadway toward Times Square.
And if you think your home is a madhouse, you want to try 42nd Street and Times Square. And as I was walking there and contemplating some things of the gospel, a great loneliness overcame me. And if the Lord would have granted me, I would have by any means tried to get back to this place. But he didn't grant it. And I went to my room and cried myself to sleep. I asked my father, what was I doing?
back there in the place from which he had gathered myself, my mother's family, and a few friends. What was I doing back there? It's been the last time that I've been there. And I'm grateful. I'm grateful, my brethren and sisters, beyond words of expression, for the evidences that I have received, the care and keeping, that my father exercises over me, how he has brought me from a foreign country all the way to the place called Zion, placed me under the direction of his servants, and has given me the privilege of finding my fathers in the priesthood. I read what Abraham had to say just the other day, and I felt a closeness.
because the Lord did the same thing for him. He took him away from his apostate family, and he gave him the opportunity to find his way back to his fathers in the priesthood. And he made a great man out of him in the head of a dispensation. To my children, I would say, praise the Lord that he has blessed you with the privilege of being born in the land of Zion.
that you too have the privilege of living under the direction of the priesthood of Almighty God, and that you have the privilege of returning into his presence if you will but keep his commandments. And with all the getting, with all the getting, get truth. For a knowledge of the truth, the knowledge put into application, that is what will bring you the Spirit of God.
I have heard it said so many times. I'm grateful for it. That President Barlow constantly spoke up on the subject. Get the Spirit of God and keep it. But my brethren and sisters, learn to place the emphasis on the getting. You can't keep what you haven't got. You've got to get it first. And there is but one way of getting the Spirit of God, that is through obedience to every commandment and the mind and will of God. What greater can you say than the Savior himself said, I have not come to do my will but his that sent me. I pray my brethren and sisters in all humility that something that I have said may be useful to you. I have really no right to speak as long as I did, but I couldn't help it. I believe these things with all my soul. I believe every word, and I pray to God earnestly that I might learn to keep all that I have spoken about. We are not yet united. That's our problem. We are not yet united.
And until we are, we can't rightly approach the Lord. Let's strive for this unity in all things. Yes, in all things. I'm grateful beyond expression. And I don't know whether Sister Margaret will forgive me for saying it. She talked three times as long to me today than she did to you. And I was grateful for every word that she spoke.
And I don't know that there be one single servant of God that wouldn't be grateful to listen to his wife or to other sisters tell them the truth of the gospel if they would have it. And I do not listen to Sister Margaret because she is somebody's wife. I've listened to Sister Margaret because of the conviction that what she said was the truth.
was the gospel, and I rejoiced in listening to it. And I rejoice in listening to all who will bear this glorious message of truth. Strive for it, my brethren and sisters. This thing Sister Margaret talked about, it is easy. Don't follow in the way of the world with this 50-50 proposition. You do the will of your husband and the will of God.
And you won't have to worry about a position. You won't have to worry. No man of God can fail to recognize the Spirit of God and the blessings that come from God. I pray that the blessings of our Father may continue with us, strengthen us. Out there in the world, it's horrible. It's horrible. The story I've listened to this past week.
It made my heart ache. And I want to tell you that the world is horrible. And don't you ever expect that any single soul will step up to you and say you are a saint. They'll step up to you and call you something else. But you've got to smile at them. For there's but one to please. And that is your father. Let us try that. Let us try to please him.
I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, amen. Let's stand and sing the first and last verse of Up Ye Defenders of Zion. 47. 37. I'd like to hear from President Timpson now. I've often said there's an advantage in wearing one of these things. Sometimes you can turn it off. There are several brethren that are conspicuous by their absence tonight. My thoughts have been with them a great deal today and during this service because I know where they are and what they're doing. It wouldn't matter whether it were in Africa or any other place. If they were called, they would be there doing the same thing. It's characteristic of the spirit of the priesthood. The spirit of the priesthood is the Holy Ghost.
Holy Ghost is peculiar to the priesthood. We are often confused in this subject. God is so great in the universe. He's in all things and throughout. Those things, of course, that he accomplishes through his mind, the united mind of the Father and the Son is the power of the Holy Ghost. But the light of Christ is in all things and through all things. And everything that breathes and has its be is by the light of Christ that is in all things and through all things. And this light is striving with all life to keep it going and to bring about the consummate purposes of God. We speak of a horse being distempered, speak of it being temporarily or permanently mentally deranged. It can be caused from an injury, from a wound inflicted, or it can be caused from improper care.
and proper food, diet, or care, housing. We see dogs in our neighborhood, distemper. We see them fighting on them. We see them in their peaceful moments, and we see them in their warring moments. We see Mr. Khrushchev, that has been referred to here tonight, many times the last few years, in his peaceful moments and in his warring moments. No one is acquainted with Mr. Khrushchev like, except Mr.
Khrushchev, except Mrs. Khrushchev. She knows his bad temper, she knows his good temper, she knows his sweet influence and spirit when he's peaceful, and she knows it when it's warlike. And we could go on and on and on and analyze these things from now until some distant, far distant, I don't think we would accomplish very much. The spirit of God is peaceful until it's time to go to war.
It's warlike. Destruction. He brings about destruction. He says he doesn't do it, but his spirit was mistaken. Now, we've heard so much about getting the spirit of God and keeping it these many years. Lo, these many years that I hope, my dear brothers and sisters, that we can reduce it down to just a little, narrow, little, tiny bit of a thing so we can look at it and understand just as it is.
pardon me saying so the spirit of god is cheerful obedience one's legitimate authority you can talk about it from now until 20 million years from now and if you can bring it down to any more clear and beautiful concise english terms or not i don't know how would anyone challenge that statement here would anyone be so foolish as to challenge that statement Did the Savior keep the Spirit of God with him? Did you ever hear of him ever being out of harmony with his file leader? Did he ever speak at great length about anyone else except his file leader? He referred to Isaiah, he referred to Noah, he referred to Jonah. He referred to others of the prophets, but did he go at great length? He quoted Isaiah at quite great length in trying to make his position clear.
by prophecy to the people in the synagogues where he was teaching them, because Isaiah's prophecies concerning him were very replete, numerous, and beautiful. While we're speaking of Isaiah's prophecies, I'd like to just quote one of the little ones, one of the short ones. I love it. I love to hear it quoted. I love to hear it sung. I love to hear it honored.
And it was he himself, the Savior, that said, Study to his disciples. Search the words of the prophet Isaiah, for great are his words. For unto us a son is given, unto us a child is born, and the government shall be upon his shoulders, and his name shall be called. Wonderful, the mighty God, the everlasting Father. Sublime.
short, concise definition of the mission of our elder brother, Jesus Christ, whom we have been called to follow after and to pattern our lives after. And he paid the strictest obedience to his file leader. He only had one. It was easy, wasn't it? He only had one. So it was easy, wasn't it? It was the most difficult job that a man has ever undertaken in the history of man, to follow it perfectly, to say, if our husbands were only more intelligent, if they were only more truthful, if they were only more peaceful and long-suffering and patient and kind, we could follow them. You've got your wires all twisted, my dear sisters. You can't follow the man of God in his imperfection. How are you going to follow a perfect man? Jesus was given the most difficult,
task that any man has walked the earth, to follow a person and to be obedient to him in all things. Now because we believe in a God who is perfection, and because Jesus, our elder brother, proved that man also could become perfect, it has given us the faith that our God is a perfect man, that our God is just and is keen in judgment and mercy.
full of mercy and full of love and full of truth. He cannot lie. He is not a variable person, but is continuous and constant and no respecter of persons and delights to honor any person in any land or nation that will honor him and keep his commandments. That's why we have faith in him. And if we study these attributes, study them and study them and study them, as we study them and exert our minds upon them, they will become a part of our character. And if we don't study them, brothers and sisters, they will not be a part of our character. Now, how do we study them? Do we go like the world does and go from the top down to the bottom, or do we start at the bottom and go to the top? Now I'm going to ask you the question. Neilson, it looks like you're listening.
How many people did the Lord give you to follow at one time? There's one. Isn't that amazing? It's so simple that anyone can answer it. Even I can answer it and say, oh, yes, we have several. When Daddy isn't home, why, then it's Mama. And when Mama isn't home, it's the elder brother or sister. Oh, yes, we have many, but we have one. We have one. We who are grown up and matured in this work have one file leader.
Now, he may have others represent him to speak to us, to instruct us, to exhort us, to correct us, but we have one. Now, our file leader, brothers and sisters, those few brethren who hold the priesthood, the high priesthood, have one man to follow. And he set the pattern. And when he found out who that man was that he was to follow, he went to him.
This is what he wanted. I believe you. The Lord has given a testimony of the divinity of your mission. Brother Barlow, what's your life? He was filled with the Holy Ghost, and he's been filled with it ever since because he's never lost his source. Am I telling the truth, Sister Johnson? Am I telling the truth, Sister Johnson? In all witnesses, has any one of you ever seen Leroy Johnson when he wasn't full of the Holy Ghost?
When he wasn't full of loyalty to John Y. Barlow while John Y. Barlow was alive. When he didn't boost him and help him, speak no evil against him, and never criticize him. Is there anyone who disagrees with this? Any? We all have the same testimony. Now why did Brother Johnson do that? He did it because it was the easy way of life. And he didn't want to work at it hard.
They believe the Savior when he says, my yoke is easy and my burden is light. Are you people that have gone out of your way to listen to television and radios and all this moving picture to prove that crime doesn't pay? Even you will agree with me that the yoke of righteousness is an easy way. And if any of you won't find enough sorrow, sadness, and loneliness in this world, When you're full of the Holy Ghost, I would exhort you to try what Brother Alfred tried. Go over to New York. See how lonesome you can get. Go over to San Francisco. See how lonesome you can get. The saints of God are lonesome and homesick when they're away from the saints. And that's the mark of the saints. It's the spirit of the Holy Ghost. It's the gathering. They desire to be at the feet of the priesthood to learn the will of God.
Now there's nothing difficult about it. What is a prophet of man? He has everything else in the world. He doesn't learn his duty to God. And where else can he learn his duty other than that authority which God himself has placed over him to teach him? We've observed on a previous occasion that the spirit of the world is the spirit of oppression, the spirit of dominion. Think of the word I want. That's the word I want.
where you usurp authority. That's what they want. Usurp. Usurp authority. Castro down there usurping authority. Now the United States is going to send men down to usurp Castro's authority. Or else they're going to have some trouble with the communists if they don't. Well, that's the spirit of the world. But the spirit of the world is the same spirit that Erwin referred to tonight.
A challenging of the priesthood of God. A challenging of a well-defined order that's been set up from our father Adam down to the present time. These men get the spirit of usurpation because they're asked to sit on the bench a little too long. They get ambitious. They want to kill somebody themselves and their families and other folks' families. Now that is not the spirit of it.
priesthood. The spirit of the priesthood is the spirit of submission to legitimate authority. And there's no ambition in it. There's no ambition in it. You never hear of God being an ambitious God. You don't hear of Joseph Smith being ambitious. Do you accept an apostate? No, he was not ambitious. He wanted to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of his brothers and sisters. How in the world can a man get ambitious?
engage in that kind of a creature, unless it's Lucifer and wants to save them in spite of himself and damn them to hell if they don't do what he tells them. Well, I'm grateful, my dear brothers and sisters, that we have men like Brother Johnson, Brother Letus, Brother Hammond, Brother Mussel, Brother Jeffs, Brother Jessup, but I love them like I love my own life. I love them because they've taught me to serve God and to keep his commandments.
And I'm so damn stupid that I can't follow their instructions. And I'm breaking the commandments all the time. The word of wisdom, the word of wisdom hits me like a hammer, hits glass, and I fly in 26,000 different directions. But I doubt if there's a man in this work that loves the word of wisdom more than I do. I love it because it's pounding me, pounding me. I sometimes have to.
take a drink of wine to forget how hard it's playing. Well, Susie, do you enjoy your tea once in a while? Well, I would just wish him when I got up to speak that I had a cup of Susie's tea. I want to talk a little about the Word of Wisdom, and probably I'll end up by reading it if I have time. I'll talk about it first. A very recent convert, who has a fine family, came to me not long ago, and he says, Brother Timpson, I'm in trouble. Trouble? I said, what about? He says, over the Word of Wisdom. I said, you too?
I wanted to just get out, but he just kept me right there. As you know, one of my dear brethren that has a little more authority than I do was criticizing one of our dear sisters because she drank a cup of tea and told me that she's under condemnation, and I know she isn't. And I told him she wasn't. He said, well, she's under condemnation to the extent that she takes it. I guess that isn't as serious a condemnation, is it? I hope everybody here can stand the little story I'm going to tell them, Brother Johnson. I've told it to half of you already. If I haven't done it, I should be. I'll tell it to the rest of you, and then you tell it to the cockeyed world. I was down in Cedar City a few weeks ago, and...
Went in the cafe to see the owner of the cafe to buy some stock. And there was Brother Johnson drinking a cup of coffee. That's a nasty word. If I hadn't have told that quick, I wouldn't have dared to tell it. He said, will you have a cup of coffee, Brother Timpson? Glad to see you. And I said, I sure will.
So we talked over our business, and he was feeling good about his day's work, and I was feeling pretty good about my anticipation for a day's work. He gets up earlier than I do. And after I left, he insisted on paying for that coffee. I was glad of that. Didn't want to ever have anyone accuse me of buying Brother Johnson a cup of coffee.
Well, we went on our way. He excused himself and came on up the line, and I proceeded to talk to him. I went to this man who had complained bitterly against one of our dear sisters drinking tea and told him this story. And I said, my dear brother, my dear brother, and I tell you this in all sincerity, I would rather drink a half of a bottle of whiskey and lay in the gutter all night long.
than to find myself criticizing my file leaders. And if you please, I'd rather break the word of wisdom than I would commit the most mortal sin that man can commit. So help me God, I would. I hope nobody will challenge me on it, because I'm not a drinking man. Do we realize what we're doing to our bodies when we drink tea and coffee, chew tobacco?
I don't know much about it. I've read these scientists until I'm blue and black in the face, and I don't know much about it. But I'll tell you I know what happens to me when I start criticizing my legitimate authority. I've heard men with a goblet or two of wine in their stomach praise their file leaders, sing songs and anthems to God. And I've never witnessed a finer spirit in my life.
but I have never in all my life ever witnessed a fine spirit connected with the criticism of one's legitimate authority. And if I live to be as old as Methuselah, I don't expect it. Now, one of our earlier speakers tonight said, if you want to obey your legitimate authority, get the Spirit of God. And that's wonderful. Now, my dear brother, if you want, the Spirit of God obey your legitimate authority. And just tie them both up together and just keep doing both of them. But I would put the horse right square in front of a car. If you want the Spirit of God to obey your legitimate authority, placed over you by the priesthood of God, which is God. I don't give one damn how many times you get mad. I don't. So help me, I don't. If you throw one of your kids through the...
through the wall. If you're doing what your husband tells you to do, you don't lose the Spirit of God. No, you won't. But if you're doing that when he tells you not to, and the Lord told Nephi to cut off a man's head, he didn't lose the Spirit of God. It increased with him. That act of obedience filled up his spirit. Power is God. And the whole nation should dwindle in unbelief.
Now, there's no mystery, by the way, anymore. Has anybody got any questions? Has anybody got any questions? The Spirit of God is here because you people have come to call a priest to be here and to listen to the words of life. Why do you lose it when you go away? Has your purpose changed because you go home and go to bed and you go out and you work? You're going out to build up Brother Johnson, and he sure needs a lot of building up.
The Lord doesn't, but Brother Johnson does. He needs a lot of help, doesn't he? He needs a lot of help. He needs a lot of help, brothers and sisters. He needs faith and he needs prayer. He needs money. He needs a few of the good things of life. God help you and me to help you get to my prayer in the name of Jesus. Amen. We've been together quite a long while now, brothers and sisters. But I'd like to add, just an admonition or two with the help of the Lord. I know Brother Timson, I guess, about as well as any man does. He's my uncle. I'm his nephew. I've known him a long time. But believe me when I tell you, brethren and sisters, in spite of or because of, any way you want to put it, the word of wisdom, he...
has been very busy and faithful in doing the thing he's been talking to you about tonight, to his file leader. And you could skin him alive, and you'll still be faithful to his file leader just that much. I love Brother Timpson, and I love all of my other brothers. And I think I can testify as well as any how I miss the love and association of my brethren in the council, particularly Brother Johnson, in being away as much as I am. I came through Albuquerque last Tuesday morning, and I had breakfast with him, and it was like life from heaven in the midst of that wicked city and environment. To sit down for a few moments on their journey and counsel with them.
And meet them in their motel room and pray with them. And I don't know when I felt more lonesome than I did when they left. I miss them tonight. And I know they're doing a great work. Some of the saints who need them more than we do are being blessed by their ministrations today. I love my brethren more than I love my wife. And I pray it will ever be so. I don't think my wife could follow me if I didn't.
Isn't this right, Brother Timpson? If I weren't faithful and true to the authority over me, I couldn't expect my folks to be likewise with me. And until I get out of the way of my priesthood, they can never get away from me. The world's without end. These are very simple and plain truths. Now, brethren and sisters, we talk a great deal about faith and faithfulness, but I don't think we understand yet the real modus operandi. The seventh lecture tells us that when we work by faith, we work by mental exertion instead of physical force. By this measure, I wonder how many of us could be judged lazy, spiritually lazy, or lacking in faith.
One wise man has said this about faith that I think might be worth passing on. Sometimes we can understand some of these things in other words than we are usually being told time and time again. All the strength and force of man comes from faith in things unseen. We were sent into the world to walk by faith and prove.
that we would choose good and refuse evil and come again into the presence of God. And that is the sum and substance of our labor here upon the earth. Our faith in God or one that we don't see, but our faith should be so perfect that we see him as who is unseen until we come to that point when our calling and election is made sure.
who are receiving our anointings, and finally, the ministration of the Savior himself, who will then show the Father unto us. To go on, he who believes is strong. He who doubts is weak. Strong convictions precede great actions. The man strongly possessed of an idea is the master of all who are uncertain or wavering.
Clear, deep, living convictions rule the world. And if we have a conviction of the truths of the holy priesthood and of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the saints will rule the world and not until. There must be an inner fire, a burning within our breast that reaches out to God through prayer and through obedience before we can be working by faith and come up to see his face.
Are we so exerting ourselves, brethren and sisters? We exert ourselves mentally through words, which then requires that we pray constantly. In our actions, in our thinking, in all of our labors, we should be constantly praying to the Lord and seeking to fulfill the measure of our creation. The Holy Spirit, brethren and sisters, is the attributes of God.
Like Brother Timpson says, we must be filled with it, and we will be filled with it through obedience. And as a man obtains the fullness of this Holy Spirit, which is the attributes of God, he may get to a point where we would actually worship and revere him, as the prophet was worshipped and revered. In any man that we find a perfection of these attributes, we will be required to worship Him because we worship God who has a perfection of those attributes. And that is why we worship Jesus Christ, the great prototype of perfection. And I pray that we may do these things in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Brother Knudsen, will you dismiss us? Our Father in Heaven, we're grateful for this.
rich outpouring of thy spirit and the instructions that we've received here tonight. We ask thee to impress them upon our minds that they can become a part of our natures and characters, that we can more perfectly fulfill our callings in the earth, that we can obtain thy spirit through obedience to our vile leaders in the priesthood, that we can understand the keys of progress and development, that we can become a people of power and strength.
fulfilling Thy purposes and establishing Thy kingdom and priesthood in the earth. Now we dedicate our lives to this end. We again ask You to bless the brethren who aren't with us, all others who are traveling this day. Watch over and protect us till we're assembled again. Let Thy Spirit guide us in all of our activities. We do these things, dedicating our lives unto Thee. In the name of Thy Son, Jesus Christ. Amen.
Speakers in this meeting
Each talk is a clip already in the archive. Times are taken from the automatic transcript of this meeting, lined up with that clip, and are a first pass. A new cut, if one is needed, will start just before the announcer introduces the speaker. The original meeting recording is unchanged, and the masters are not modified.
- — Rulon T Jeffs — Talk: Rulon T. Jeffs, Salt Lake City, 20 November 1960 (talk at 3:10 in this recording)
- — Margrett Musser — Talk: Margrett Musser, Salt Lake City (starts at 4:39 in this recording)
- — Permilia Jessop — Talk: Permilia Jessop, Salt Lake City (talk at 18:09 in this recording)
- — Erwin Fischer — Talk: Erwin Fischer, Salt Lake City (starts at 23:26 in this recording)
- — Therrell Dockstader — Talk: Therrell Dockstader, Salt Lake City (talk at 48:52 in this recording)
- — Alfred Olschewski — Talk: Alfred Olschewski, Salt Lake City (talk at 1:03:35 in this recording)
- — Alma A Timpson — Talk: Alma A. Timpson, Salt Lake City, 20 November 1960 (starts at 1:48:23 in this recording)
Sources
- From the Historical Short Creek archive, 1960 documents. Duration 2:35:33. Automatic transcript (unreviewed). Speaker identification is from the archive file name, checked against the opening of the recording where it names or introduces the speaker.
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