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Talk of Erwin Fischer, Salt Lake City, 20 November 1960

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20 November 1960

Talk of Erwin Fischer, Salt Lake City, 20 November 1960

A talk by Erwin Fischer at a general meeting at the Fischer home in Salt Lake City. The archive file is labeled Erwin Fischer. The automatic transcript of the opening does not clearly name the speaker. A short biography of Erwin Fischer is on his person page. The text is an automatic, unreviewed transcript of the recording, lightly paragraphed for reading. The recording itself is the source.

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I'd like to hear from Brother Irwin Fisher. Dear brethren and sisters, I had hoped that when he asked me to sit up front just to help fill up the seats that I might fill just that capacity. This is a wonderful privilege and opportunity which I'm grateful for. I can't help but have a feeling of gratitude in my heart for this privilege of mingling with the saints.

I was thinking just the other day back over my past life and I was trying to contemplate just when I received a testimony. My father came into the work and brought a portion of the family, myself being one. I was trying to determine just when it was that I really had a testimony of the work and I can't say that I really know other than that I feel that i have always had one even though it was not in as strong a degree as i feel it is at this time as i had looked back at my life previous i started to remember one instant after another of where the lord had blessed me and how he had opened the way for me and gone before me and i felt to rejoice and to feel glad in my heart at the same time i felt a little disappointed in myself to think of how lightly i had taken so many of the beautiful examples that had been placed in my life and i desired to do my best to not let that condition arise again for we certainly have a great deal to be thankful for i have found a great deal of joy in working with the brethren in our occupation for the

comfort I have had in seeing them working up the ladder along with me. I feel very grateful for the help that have come in times of discouragement from them. I want to say that I know this priesthood is true. In my contemplating, I thought, where would you go? What would you do if you ever left this work? We are told we don't know what we would do, but the thought that came instantly to my mind was there is no place to go there isn't any other word out of all the world in all the countries wherever it may be here is the priesthood here is the truth here is the gospel there is nothing else how thankful we should be how few we are when we think of the millions of people how grateful we should feel in our hearts remember back

About the time that there was a little friction, not too many years back, there was a lot of pulling one way and the other. Part of my father's family went one direction, part another. There was a lot of effort made to try and influence me the other direction. It hasn't been my nature to be one to jump fast. I have to be sure before I can go. I listened to the...

arguments pro and con this man sitting here tonight ruling is one of the biggest deciding factors at that time in my life and hearing him talk in the meetings that we were privileged at that time as brethren to have the spirit rang true that this is the truth this man speaks the truth and the other brethren with him and listening to the others they were saying true words from the scriptures they read, but the spirit wasn't behind it. The feeling wasn't there. And that feeling and that spirit has continued to grow in my heart of the truthfulness of these brethren. But to God, if needs be, I could give my life for them. I would feel to say, let's be careful as a people and be diligent to follow the instruction that has been given us. Sister Margaret has mentioned we are definitely a people under condemnation, at least

this one is through taking as lightly as we have what we have been given let's apply to our lives and try the lord and see as he mentions in the doctrine covenants if you do what i say how is it yes when you do what i say then i am bound if you do not what i say then you have no promise thought has been in my mind since the time that we were still in the church as children I remember reading it there, and it has never left my mind since. I pray that the Lord will bless you all and give you strength to carry on. And let's have gratitude. Let's remember to be thankful for what has been given us. Let's take courage in knowing that God will help us if we will but do his will. Let's carry a prayer in our heart that when we ask for the kingdom of God to be established, that we mean it.

For the judgments that must come first would be terrible. Let's pray for strength to stand that period. In my heart I feel to say, let it come. Whether I'm swallowed up in it or not, I want to see the will of God done and see his kingdom set up on this earth. After all, isn't that what this world is being created for? Would we in our feelings hold it back? Do we desire to thwart the purposes of God because of our temporal feelings or affairs any more to say at this time and i pray that god will bless us with sufficient strength to stand and give the brethren our full support for these blessings in the name of the lord jesus christ amen to hear from brother clarence wayman it really feels good to me brothers and sisters to be here tonight and we pray that lord will bless me that i'll be able to

have his spirit to guide my remarks. I may be able to say something that will be in accordance with his will. I'd like to say that the biggest enjoyment that I get in my life is to associate with my brothers and sisters in the gospel, my real brothers and sisters. I'm sure that we all realize this wouldn't amount to much if we didn't have the gospel in it.

without the Spirit of the Lord and the priesthood to guide us, we wouldn't have much to receive out of the gospel. I know that the views of people are striving to prepare ourselves and get behind this priesthood that we may be able to assist in the establishing of the kingdom of God here on the earth. I'd like to say, brethren and sisters, that if you really desire to support this priesthood, We should strive to get the Spirit of God and keep it in our individual lives. I was talking to one of my young sons this evening, trying to explain a little bit about the path of life. I was telling him that when he started out, he was starting down a path. And after he went a little ways, he came to a place where it went in two directions.

point, he had to decide which direction he was going to take. And I told him that he had already made his decision. There was no in-between. Either go in the one direction or the other. I told him that the point where he made his decision was when he was baptized. And he made a covenant and a promise there to follow the Lord and to do His will and keep His commandments.

Prophet Joseph says that this is the covenant that we made when we entered into the waters of baptism, is that we'd do the will of the Lord. I think most of us realize that the biggest thing that would deprive us of having the Spirit of the Lord would be disobedience. The Lord tells us that the thing that we should learn to do is to live by every word that proceeds forth from His mouth. He means all of it.

Our hearts are right. We desire this. We'll be able to have his spirit under the direction of the priesthood. And to you, we realize that it is necessary for this spirit to guide us back into the Lord's presence. Pre-existence, certain covenants and promises on what we'd do when we came here. It's only natural to realize.

That if we come here and our memory is taken away of what we've done, the only thing that can guide us straight and bring these things back is the Lord's Spirit under the direction of His priesthood. We're told that it's impossible to please God without faith. Now, if we obtain the knowledge ages and ages ago, and that knowledge is taken away, we won't be able to please Him without faith.

this faith, we can obtain His Holy Spirit. To support this priesthood, it will be necessary to get the Spirit of God in our own lives, for we know that salvation cannot be administered only by revelation and the authority of the Holy Priesthood. Any life wouldn't be worth living without this. Search them all individually, and ask yourselves why we're reading here.

A while back, Brother Johnson told us that if we had any other motive than to seek to be exalted in this celestial kingdom and to become Adams and Eves, if we have any other motive, we're wasting our time here. This is a serious business. We become our profession. We become saints. We're told that a saint is a sanctified person. What does it profit us to?

gain the whole world and lose their own soul. We often talk about the work. To me, as individuals, the greatest work that we have is to overcome evil in our own lives, strive to save our souls. If we can do this, then collectively, assist in the work of God, we'll be prepared that we may be usable. In searching our motives, we might consider whether we love this gospel, this work or not. If we don't have a true love, a genuine love for this work, we'll not be able to endure in it. Time will come that something will come along and take us out. It's necessary for us to have a true love in our hearts for this work. It is a great joy to me to say again, to be associated with you, to have the opportunity.

partaking of this gospel plan. I feel like it's my responsibility to do my part as much as anyone else has a responsibility in it. If we will strive to overcome evil in their own lives, we'll be able to support the priesthood. It is their work to put down evil, to prepare saints. The authority of God is to administer his law.

We're striving to live the laws of the priesthood. How could anyone suppose that we could partake of and live the laws of the priesthood without the direction of the priesthood? This is a priesthood work. It would be necessary to live the gospel under its direction, and through it we'll be able to obtain the Spirit of God. I pray that we'll be able to do these things in time.

that we'll all be able to have enough time to do these things, prove worthy, and after we leave this life, be able to associate together again. I ask this in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

Sources

  1. From the Historical Short Creek archive, 1960 documents. Duration 25:21. Automatic transcript (unreviewed). Speaker identification is from the archive file name, checked against the opening of the recording where it names or introduces the speaker.

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