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General meeting, Canada, 29 May 1960

Automatic transcript of a general meeting in Canada on 29 May 1960. The archive file is labeled as the general meeting itself, not as a single speaker. This page is the automatic transcript of that recording, which may include more than one speaker. The text is lightly paragraphed for reading. The recording itself is the source.

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I don't advise anybody to go against their conscience. How do we know when we're going to get to that stage? Conception was placed on us the last time we were down in Salt Lake City and never let another day rest until we found out how we stood in the eyes of God. Sometimes that's a pretty difficult task. I wish I knew. Some more brothers and sisters, I wish I knew how to find out. Some things I know, though. I know I'm right. And I know God knows I know.

And I know him just as well as I know the prophet Joseph Smith knew that he saw a vision. He wouldn't deny that knowledge if it took him to him apart and destroyed him. Neither will I deny the knowledge that I have. To do so would be to my utter disgust. I ask the Lord to bless you people that you will be just as firm in sustaining your conscience and as firm to the priesthood as I will be in sustaining mine. I ask the Lord to bless his servants this night.

He may make them the great man's diagnostic physician that can point out to you and I the things they see in us that are not according to the Spirit of God. The moral code, if you please, that I have gone through all my life and pleased to call a righteous life and has filled it up into what I call my church. Realizing as I stand before you and before God's servants and before God himself that I'll have to answer for my folly and my sin and that every one of you will have to.

of shame, that we will be rewarded according to our merits, and that if we may have misjudged our neighbor in his intentions or his desires, we will have that brought upon our own souls. I pray to God that we will manifest to his servants just how we people stand tonight. You know, there are doctors that you can go to and ask for a diagnosis.

I don't know what to call it. Diagnosis, I guess. There's so many diagnostics and diagnosticians and diet stuff and everything. If a man gets his tongue tied up, he doesn't know just exactly which one he wants. I've met very good English men. He's like two to three symbols. They get their tongue tied up in a lot of it and put the head where the feet ought to be. They generally can make themselves understood. Some doctors, when they go and search through a man and they see something serious wrong with him, they're reluctant to tell the man so maybe the shock will destroy the man. And I hope...

The Lord doesn't spare me like that. He seems to dab in me. He's afraid the shock will kill me. I may just as well be dead now as die of slow limbs and dead later. So, hey, it's my humble prayer that the Lord will bless His servants. He'll let them be the great God's constitution. Tell us what it is. It's keeping the Lord from being satisfied with it. Or with me, I should say. That's for certain. I don't know about you people. It's not my business to know.

Your business, you know, though. I know he's not satisfied with me, but I just seem to have one awful time finding out just exactly what it is, and he's not pleased with it. Oh, I've got a hell of a temper. When anybody wants to fight with me, they'll find a damn good foe. Oh, that's not pleasing, he's a fat ass. I wonder sometimes how many of us can say the same thing. I've got a dozen other things that are wrong with me. None of them are particularly virtuous. Some things I won't do, and some things I will do.

And that's neither here nor there. Realize with the rest of you people that the Lord just doesn't play around with people. He gives them a certain length of time and a certain amount of rope, and they either hang themselves or learn how to coil the rope and keep it off their neck. Realize that we don't have too much time as a teacher. The Lord can raise up a people that he can talk to and talk with, but we're not a different type of people that can be united in doctrine and principle.

I hope when he does that I've got enough intelligence of the Lord and the light, the spirit of light in me to be able to appreciate and see what those people look like. I don't ever expect to be one of them, but I hope and pray that some of you people will. Might be an interesting thing to see. Now, as I said before, I would really like to see the Lord go to work on me. People, like some doctors, say, look, brother, you've got a sense of growth inside of you, and unless you realize it, Take proper steps, you'll be dead shortly. There's no sense sidestepping or dodging the issue or pulling any punches. You're half dead. You're living in a slow dying race. We might just as well let you know you're dead. You guys, yeah. They like to know those things. So ask the Lord to bless his servants if they'll tell those things. A man isn't prepared to come up to judgment with his belief and his understanding and his knowledge and what he knows. If he's heard to stand for it, he isn't much of a man. Or a woman either, for that matter.

And they said that there's going to be things that test the faith of these people they weren't given. I know one person that's going to be tested, and that's J.R. Blackmore. And I'm not fooling you there. You people that are seeking for the principles of life and salvation, you better be sure that you know where you're going and what you're doing. You have to look no more. You better be sure that it's the spirit of God and the power of the Holy Ghost that's prompting you and guiding you and inspiring you to do the things you do.

And if your testimony is right, then you may see somebody else that thinks they've got the spirit of the Holy Ghost and the spirit of God and the power of the Holy Ghost that are doing things that cause you to go astray. You will be saved on your own knowledge and not by another's chance of saving you. I suggest you find your own actions because somebody else's chance of saving you. Now, why do I say these things? Because of some of the things that I feel the kids are saying. When ingestion is placed on a people to be a...

a united people and become one and be a pure people, I'd like to know on what terms. The doctor tells me that I'm sick, mortally sick unto death, but there's a hope for me and doesn't tell me what is wrong with me and where it is where I can go to work on it, where I might just as well have saved my dollar bills and booted him right in the gluteal from 60 miles on the street. As I said before, I hope that the Lord will bless and inspire his servants and maybe point out some of these things to us.

Sometimes the best thing to do is to get it out of your heart, let somebody else see what it is, and maybe they've got a chance to correct it. My dear brothers, again I rejoice within you that this time, in our humble faith and in this manifestation of faith, that our new faith may be dictated by the Spirit and by the Lord. Like the whole, I myself have remembered this time as more.

I must be, besides that little bit I'm trying to do, to have the Lord please with me. I'm hurrying on laughing, to act with him, to take me back to heaven, to not fall in heaven. I, uh, think I'm going to get in my room, the phone is ringing, and wonder if I'm doing anything at that particular time.

was doing anybody any good besides myself and what it is that i can do that would be of use to anybody because i on my life i just like either moment and should i just be doing something with my hands or with my head either learning something or accomplishing something in some way In sitting and contemplating conditions and people and different things that one needs to address, I led to think that the greatest thing that I lack is charity and love. God says that peace is love. Christ told us that though we give all we have, And even our bodies could be burned, and half my charity would avail us of nothing. And nor am I, in speaking of faith, hope, and charity, selfish that charity is the greatest of all. That charity is the pure love of Christ. And I've often wondered to myself,

a wonderful haven, I don't know what else to call it, a feast, it would be amongst us if we could develop that pure love of Christ within our hearts, that love for each other, in which we look only for each other's wishes and not their faults. I find myself even publicizing in my own feelings different people and different things. And I realized and tried to bring myself quickly to the point that that is not the spirit of God. The spirit of civicism is not the spirit of God. And so I must rid myself of anything and everything It is contrary to the Spirit of God. If I develop within myself that pure level of pride, I am able within myself to trust my fellow man because I love him and because I am willing to overlook his imperfections. I think that is where the statement comes in handy.

In the Scripture, it says that charity covers a multitude of sins. And so, to develop that charity, if we can acquire it, it does cover a multitude, and it needs to particularly say sin, but a multitude of imperfections in our fellow men. And by doing that, we also create a... confidence from them in us in my estimation that we can learn to trust each other and in trusting each other we learn to live in that love and peace and union and we could go through that more purposefully as we go along in our everyday life and in our everyday contact with each other. And I have more or less expressed that particular aptitude that God tried to as much as I could in my evening. And I have often thought of the little song and I memorized it as soon as it was published and as soon as I see it anyway.

of may speak no ill there's up to a group of young people sometimes i could have seen me use that for a few times and some of them were telling me not too long ago mcd's memorized all the words of that may speak no ill well i said now you can just apply that to your life and remember every day every morning when you arrive not to speak evil or ill of anyone, and then to guard your tongue and your temper. And that way you will deal with your child more of the Spirit of the Lord as you go on from day to day. And if you stop yourself from speaking evil, one mother, you forget. You forget the thing that you really...

If you just put it out of your mind and out of your heart, you'll forget it. And you'll miss it. Because if you start to sit aside, you'll begin to grow in your sight. And it will be worth that peace and contentment after life that you could have and you should have. and the condition that we've got to have before the Lord can use us in the way and manner that He has in store for us. There isn't anything but love comes into our home, into our hearts, when a newborn baby is put into our arms. It's just a bundle of love from Heaven that will lead Grow in years we acquire habits sometimes that become obnoxious to our fellow men or at least they let them become obnoxious to them. And one of the greatest errors I feel like that we commit or injuries that we do to ourselves is to stumble over the faults that other people make and worry about them and talk about them. Doesn't do them any good and it doesn't do us any good.

to stumble over the faults of other people make. If we just pass and die and ask the Lord to help us to forgive those that make us with against us and likewise to give them the spirit of forgiveness so that to be fixed with against anyone else. The prophet Joshua said, He that forgives his brother before he even meets him, I ask forgiveness.

the Lord will be equally merciful unto him. So you can see that category we would place ourselves in could be to give our fellow man. And even though then we shouldn't, to lose your time, the Lord will be equally merciful to us if we can exercise that love and that mercy and that charity toward our fellow man.

Now pray that the Lord will bless us in his Holy Spirit and take our hearts to his understanding that we may go from day to day and try to cultivate those attributes that will bring us to unity of the faith. I humbly pray in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. And yet, while we are asking for the Lord to make manifest to us those faults and failings that we need to correct, Still, I am aware of some measures. If the answer is blazing before our eyes, we oftentimes say that the signal is easy. But just the thing that stands in our way. I'm very much impressed with Anthony's remarks. It seems like he spoke from my heart. It seems that some individuals are especially difficult with their abilities in public speaking. Some of us, it seems like,

very much lacking in that ability. Notwithstanding the fact that when the Lord calls a person to do a job, it don't seem the right thing to be good playing about in that ability. But the thing to do is to proceed and do the best that we can. It's been my observation and experience many, many times in my life, particularly since this calling came to me. Sometimes when I've been left A considerable amount of responsibility in our immediate community. All of my seniors gone away. And at times I felt so bugged down with problems and perplexities that I felt like I was just about snowed under. I was in a mire over my head but I couldn't see my way out. I found other individuals coming to me with their problems and expecting to be given a lift.

not simply my feelings, my depressed mental or spiritual situation, but I don't believe there's ever been a time when constant business arose and I've been willing to exert myself to the best of my ability with what the good Lord has been kind enough to condescend upon to the rescue. I don't believe there's ever been such a circumstance arise with what those who have come seeking a lift, what they have.

Even though I felt life at my abatement, I already had you. Touching me into the air beyond my ability to extricate myself. And so often times I didn't know if you were in bed with me. I still said it. It has brought to me more strength than I had without that effort. To get out of my own load. I feel like I have acquired a lot of understanding. A better way of feeling. And a much better way of feeling.

and mine a certain composition in one of our hymns. If I might just change the wording a little bit in one of these things and raise a few lines, George of 1694, if any of you haven't heard of it, let us all speak kind words to each other, and to complete a card with the spirit of that season's remark. I would like for us to, with wording, let me all speak.

kind words to another. But oh, by the way I may be, like the warbling of birds on the head of the cranes, you will be welcome to see. It will gladden the hearts of your parents, your kids and hopeful about you. Where the dark clouds hide the shining, let in the bright sunshine and the sunlight of love. Oh, the kind words I hear, that in memory live and sunshine forever impart. Let me off.

Speak kind words to my brother, kind words that speak closer to the heart. As the sunbeams of morn on the mountain, the soul there waits to drift near. At the murmur of cruel present fountains, they fall in sweet favor with me. Let's all, then, in kindly tone voices, our mutual sense with the moon, till heart meets with heart and...

I am content to believe in all things. I can bring myself to that condition, spirit, feeling. No circumstances and conditions arise at the time I take them. I relate my feelings to all my dispositions. I find the answers in my questions. I sometimes would be disposed to ask my questions. What is my reason? What do I need to do?

How do I need to revise my course of conduct in order to get myself in complete union, harmony, and stay with God, and with the responsibilities of my office in college? I don't recall whether I made reference to this particular matter when I was here, but it's ever new and fresh to me, happiness the object and design of our existence.

happiness is the object and the design of our existence. And we'll begin their offer if we pursue the path that leads to it. This path is breaking of darkness, faith in it, holiness, and in keeping all of the commandments of God. But we cannot keep all the commandments without first knowing them, and we cannot expect to know all, or more than we now know.

unless we comply with or cease those we have already received. That which is wrong under one circumstance may be and oftenly is right under another. God said, Thou shalt not kill. At another time he said, Thou shalt utterly destroy. This is the principle upon which the heaven and the heaven is conducted, by revelation adapted to the circumstances in which the children of the kingdom are placed.

Whatever God requires is right, no matter what it is, although we may not seem to be here after long after the events go by. If we seek first the kingdom of God, all good things will be added. So was Solomon. First he asked wisdom, and God gave it him, and gave it every desire of his heart. Even things which might be considered abominable to those who understand the order of heaven only in part, but which in reality were right because God gave them sanction by special revelation. A child may whip a child justly too because he stole an apple. Whereas, if the child had asked for the apple and the child had given it, the child would have eaten it with a better appetite. There would have been no strife. All the pleasures of the apple would have been...

God's blessings and enjoyment without law. Without revelation, without commandment, those blessings and enjoyments would prove curses and temptations in the end, and we could have to lie down in sorrow and wailing of everlasting regret. But in obedience, there is joy and peace unspotted on the Lord, and as God has designed our happiness and the happiness of all his creatures, He never has, he never will. To institute an ordinance or bill of commandment to his people that is not calculated in its nature to promote that happiness that he has designed and which will not end in the greatest amount of good and glory to those who become the recipients of his law and ordinance. Blessings offered but rejected are no longer blessings but returns.

but become like the count hid in the earth by the widget of the cross of the servant. The prophet did the same to the giver. The blessing is bestowed upon those who will receive and occupy. For unto him that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundantly. But unto him that hath not, or will not receive, shall be taken away that which he hath, or might hath had. Our Heavenly Father is more.

liberal in his views and boundless in his message and blessings than we are ready to believe or receive and at the same time is more terrible to the workers of the mixity more awful than the execution of his punishment more ready to detect every false way than we are asked to suppose him to be he will be inquired of by his children He shall ask, and ye shall receive. Seek, and ye shall find. But if ye will take that which is not your own, or which I have not given you, ye shall be rewarded according to your deeds. But no good thing will I withhold from them who will listen to my voice and to the voice of my servants whom I have sent. For I delight in those who speak diligently.

You know my precepts and abide by the law of my sins. For all things shall be made known unto them in mine own time, and in the end they shall have joy. This blessed gospel plan consists of everything which is true and right and correct and proper. That which is true is saved by life, thinking, speech, and conduct. Thoughts and feelings are everything which is true and true.

perfect, correct, lovely, and enjoyable part of the gospel class. That gospel unit, and attending those laws and ordinances, those synagogues, those ceremonies, everything that's calculated to prepare mankind, the entities of the presence of God, was extended to those who were willing to pray to Christ, I suppose, and that's it. When I stopped sinning, notwithstanding our beloved old...

but we, a mere and significant handful of people, all that are left on the face of the earth who have access to these sacred and holy ordinances of the house of God, for the peace of the eternal people. For the splendor of the rock, the rock that comes as a soul to be lived, and nobody else in this heaven. For these things are splendor to me, and those who are willing, open their hearts and minds, and receive the peace upon which they can live. Thank you. What a brand new story. Opportunity is very much in the face of the day we live. Yes, we go along.

In all these many years we've seen life and earth failing to take ourselves in hand in a sufficient way, force, influence, power, to give ourselves or leave, a pesky little affliction, personal penances, information, standing in our way, thereafter, for a lifetime. It would seem to me that we ought to be on our knees as we live our lives. We are standing on our knees before the throne of grace every moment.

We think of it, and we ought to think of it continuously. The opportunity, the power of heaven, to extend unto us the strength, the power, the ability, the strength of sin. It's read from our very hearts and minds, our souls, our thoughts, our feelings, every fault it leads to me. And I'm sure it is as far as I am willing to make the effort. And it's not beyond my power to make the effort.

Though I well remember in my early manhood, I mentioned all the patriarchs, the reflections, and all other things in person, we remember that through your priesthood, you are the master. The evil ones cannot harm you, only as you give way to temptation and desire. You must often come to hope that the efficacy of those ways makes you sick in my vision.

There have been so many, many things in my course of life where I have failed. But the most in my mind is always the formality of things that make those changes. Stated on my head by the inspiration of heaven. Though the old patriarch was not a liver of plural marriage, he lived up to the patriarchal law. And yet I am satisfied with the new chapter.

Oftentimes, those words that you are so clear and honest receive much of its further inspiration and are often used by the good Lord to express His will to His children. I desire nothing less for you, my dear brother and sister, and you, dear, dear, dear to me, to associate with me in my pleasure to enjoy what you think of me.

May God grant that each and all may have the grace The power of God speaks to correct our own errors and complete a charge that I soon will forget. George led the story over the faults of our daddies and sisters and never looked for faults in one another. Through our utmost, we should cover them with a mantle of charity and our own might be covered and we will find ourselves one day going along in complete and perfect harmony and unity with one another. God bless you to do so.

I've learned to find joy and happiness in your society because I know that you're trying to live the same life and keep the same commandments that I'm trying to live. I pray that while I stand before you, I may have a sincere interest in your faith and faith. We all know that without the influence of heaven upon us, our time is wasted, our efforts are in vain, and we haven't time for the vain and foolish faith. I rejoice in the remarks of the brethren, and I be grateful to you, brethren and sisters, for following forth the inspiration that you have.

I know that he could speak with her and load his mind and his problems many times with her and she would observe and understand with feeling comfort and fear. the way a good wife does for a man. I know that he had many intense problems that she huffed him with. I'm grateful to God for the companionship that I have. There are things along the way that no one else can help us with. The brethren have their wonderful place. Their society is supreme. The council is of the greatest importance. But God intends that these first companions fill their noble place.

And I'm glad to see you seven and sisters smiling at each other, husbands and wives, acknowledging one another and enjoying the sweet felicity of your companionship. God intends that we make of these homes a heaven upon earth. President Young tells us that if we cannot have a heaven upon earth of our own making with the help of God, of course, we'll never have a heaven over there.

So if we are proceeding on the wrong premise, if we're just existing, or if we're just tolerating each other, we're going along, participating in the divine privileges of our hours, and not making the most of our association to become godly. In very deed, we're wasting rich opportunities that have come from God. We take the duty of each other.

companion to have her specific place and her consideration and her right. I have it many times with the companion that's been with us the longest. We naturally go there for comfort, discussion and counsel. And if we're doing our duty, we'll cultivate the friendship and the ability, the comfort of the rest of us.

We must consider them very seriously, very keenly. Many times we will offend with a word or a slight, an indifference or a neglect, and that makes it quite a mouth. We have nothing, no excuse, brethren, to do anything but inspire from day to day. And if we do offend in any respect, We've got to make amends, restitution. God doesn't look upon these things with very much allowance. If we know what we're doing, if we're informed, if we have the ability, He certainly extends to us every grace and time sufficient to learn, to grow, that we've got to remember that these sacred companions and children, we can add, are gifts from God.

And we're only here to prove ourselves, to see what we'll be worthy of. An enjoyable situation, the spirit of God. A man is packed to the very limit of his abilities, all the time. You often remember hearing and reading the story of the prophet's sister being a rolling stone. The edges are trimmed off, the corners are trimmed off, and he becomes a smooth, polished stone after so long.

we know that he was not given much realization or vacation from his great responsibilities and the other seven who succeeded him those who have lived the law and effectiveness and righteousness a man cannot ignore nor slip away from his responsibilities he has to be alert and keen at every opportunity every waking moment to have the influences of heaven with him and to create right and present and to build his empire of righteousness and purity and cooperation and oneness as he goes along. One of the few things that I remember from Mr. John, he wasn't given to too much teaching. So what he said was, gems of spirit were gems of spirit. He mainly counseled us to get the spirit of God and keep it and made a few related remarks.

and then didn't do Christ and that instruction by many other ways. And I'm sure that he was very wise, he was inspired in doing that thing, knowing that we have plenty to do to speak of the Spirit of God and keep it with us. And I'm sure that he recognizes where he is at the present time, both in the presence of God, we knew him here still having to turn to that, to a very marked degree.

And that's some of the wisest gospel that you can get. To get the Spirit of God and keep it with us. In our home relationship, in our school relationship, back with our parents, surely nothing is more important than getting the Spirit of God and keeping it with us. And as wives, what is more important than that? As husbands, and as people today, and as a people of life, to get the Spirit of God and keep it with us in every relationship.

We do that for the way we're able to discern more clearly our faults. Along with that interpretation of our faults comes the answer if we seek for it. How to overcome. How to be a better leader. How to be a better follower. We receive the flashes from the heavens of our condition. What joy it brings to our hearts. And that God has answered us. We have the answer to our longing. We know what we've done amiss.

Our conscience can be cleared up if we will do it. I commend you for the things we've done wrong. We'll, of course, move up the ladder of success in the work of God. So with these few words, I trust that next time I see you, brothers and sisters, you'll have more of the spirit of God and be able to keep it with you longer, all the time. I hope that I can attain to the same thing. We're isolated somewhat, but we go to our various places.

It's a wonderful thing that that influence from heaven is not for many. Oftentimes it's increased upon us as we're in our private souls, in our private circumstances. We're worthy of more of it. We need more of it, of course, so God gives it to us. Then, of course, if we can come together with the greatest increase of the Spirit of God upon us, we can enjoy and lift the outpouring from heaven.

and bring the Spirit of God with us in rich abundance when we come again, and instill that into our children, the know-how of getting it, and what a challenge that is. Oh, God bless us, brothers and sisters, everyone. We can consider this as our greatest responsibility, to get the Spirit of God and keep it with us. Only we can limit that getting and keeping. I say it in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

On one occasion, I was sitting in the office with my father, seeing a few people, and it happened to be on a Monday after a good Sunday meeting, and the people were advised to find out what was wrong. And that made Monday a very busy day. A fine man come in, Sit down. Said Joseph, I have come to God has wronged me. I am not right before the Lord. Father answered, You really know what's wrong with me? Anne said, Yes. Her father pointed out his character, his faith to overcome it. Her character to them. Confidence is centered in the perfect judgment. Confidence that he has perfect judgment.

have confidence that he has perfect mercy and perfect truth. So our confidence is centered in his character. Now if I am to unite myself with you, I've got to unite upon the proposition of the degree of confidence I have in your character. Or in your attitude. It's on your character.

My confidence in you has to be based upon the condition of your knowledge, of your faith, your justice, your judgment, your mercy, your love, and your truth. That's what my confidence has got to be based on, and centered. And my lack of confidence has got to be centered based on the same thing, the same argument, the same theory.

I can't develop confidence in the fact that you're good looking, that you're strong, that you're white, that you're black, that you're fine, that you're sweet, that you have a certain degree of intelligence, that you have this amount of success, that you're this social, that you're this tall. I can't center my confidence upon those destructive elements that are here today, and is gone tomorrow. The unity between you and myself must be based upon my confidence in the attributes of your character and your confidence in the attributes of my character. And with that as a center of confidence, the bond and the truth, all can arise within the unity.

and unity cannot be called for under any other conditions. Our Father has said, I demand that you unite yourselves with me. He has a right to call for that unity because he knows that we can place confidence in his attributes, in his faith. formed out of exactly the same amount of us, that knowledge, faith, justice, judgment, mercy, love, and truth, all those attributes compose the nature of our character, but in an imperfect condition, regardless of the traditions of our fathers and so forth. That's the difference between ourselves and our Heavenly Father.

is that she has perfected her character and our character is imperfect. A good place to start in trying to arrange for the development of confidence in each other. Our character is not like that up here. You've got to have confidence in this woman, in this guy, in this man. You've got to have confidence in each other or you'll be damned.

You've got a habit. You've got a habit. The brethren are telling it to you. But because you have followed the man, you haven't converted him. There's only one way for me to gain confidence in you, and that is for me to gain confidence in your character. For I know you are truthful as far as your capacity will allow you to. I know that you are filled with faith.

confidence in your faith. My mother was nearly dead one morning. She was all yellow, something had broken inside. I don't know what it was, some kind of disease. And so she called me to her side and she says, run and call for someone to administer to me. I said, who do you want, Mama? She saw the moment and she says, too, you can't get Brother Carlisle. I have faith.

For he has faith and after him. Now there's a simple example. In other words, by her association and experience with him, she had developed confidence in his attitude of faith. He called up old brother Carlisle and he sent him an administrative tour and he was healed. So there's a simple example. In a very imperfect condition, the elder...

to be in a position to have people have confidence in us. Every woman should be in a position for the people to have confidence in us. We're in and out of all these conditions. Sometimes we're faceless. We're fallen. And we're under condemnation. So we have to start from the very ground and work up. And that is to find out that the character of God is life.

and why we have confidence in it. Ask ourselves, why do I have confidence in my Father? Why will I say, Father, be satisfied with your justice? I want you to ask yourself, do we have confidence if we have suspected that after? Say to Father, I have perfect confidence in your knowledge. Please guide me to develop confidence.

his aptitude and knowledge and why we have, why have we developed this confidence? Not only because God has ordained him and given him the power of endless life and because he has begotten us and he is actually our Father and our God and our Lord and our Lord, not because we are bound to him by priesthood, But because history, our brethren, and our fathers have bore witness to us that his character is perfect, and we can have perfect confidence in him. And by our own experience, witness, ensure an unwavering confidence to you. Our father has created confidence. He's an element.

of creation, not of death. So we have to create a concept that others can have precision and talk everything that the Lord tells you. It has been my experience, my boy. If you're too ready to counsel people without revelation, you will counsel them wrong and they will lose faith in your judgment. Isn't that it?

We're so anxious, and we feel that if we haven't anything to say, we may feel that we don't know anything, but we are ready and prepared to give time. So in the procession of that attribute, it would be better, as President Kimball said, to say, Dear brother, dear sister, I'm sorry, but I don't have anything for you to give. Come back to me. Perhaps the Lord will reveal something to you.

that relates to this question. And so that places man above all these crooks, above all the sick. And that doesn't plant. That doesn't permit the devil to plant in the minds of the person who is stumped to get the question answered. Any deficit as to the character is a thing of knowledge. We want to be so knowledgeable that we'll give out information. How do we know it?

true or not. Because the spirit of man has taught us that if we don't do that, people might think we're unknown. So rather than to say, brother or sister, I really don't know. I'm sorry, but I don't know the answer to that question. But I can find out the correct answer if you want me to. Now there is a proper course. Rather than to give a false answer, so that they will lose confidence in you after you. And so, as time permitted, we should build down the line about you, and how in others as to their perception, and how we create confidence as to their perception. And that's what I want to bring right down to each one of you, husbands and wives, tonight. It's very true that a woman is the Now, with the duty of that man to begin immediately, then the creation of confidence is a perfection of the rapid use of his God. I believe he's not doing that.

He ran very unsafe jobs and demanded allegiance to an unsafe and an unsound and perfect church. That's why down south, and I just changed now, but down south, most all the married boys would never answer a question in their family. They always said, you go to Uncle Roy. Uncle Roy for you. You decide for him. I understood this simply.

And they didn't want to get on the spot with the creation of suspicion. And it's up to the leaders. Same thing. It's up to the leaders to truly represent God. Not themselves. But to represent the character of God. As Christ said, He says, Why do you keep asking me to show us the Father? When you have seen me, you have seen the Father. Because I truly represent it.

his character. For he and I are one. I have given myself to him and done all things whatsoever he has commanded me to do. And so we are one. So if you have seen me, you have seen the Father. Or in other words, I am a real representative of my Father in everything. That's what you've got to begin to attain to.

And perfect confidence cannot be based upon any other thing. Confidence cannot be based upon a single project. It cannot be based on the building of a church. Any other kind of work. The confidence that will unite us is one. But I'm speaking. To unite us is one. The Lord cannot use us as a body. And this is.

The only principle upon which we can become united is confidence. Confidence in one another's character. I might submit, and submit, and submit, without knowledge. Father, I didn't expect that to happen. And he is offering sacrifices, saying just that. Why are you doing this? Because I know not. I have been snatched. So go.

Those two wonderful personages set the stage right there. Gave us that sense of obedience to our leaders and to God. So I might yield and yield, yield and yield all the days of my life. Developing belief and perfect confidence in the man or the woman or the youth that I need. So we can't be one. I can develop the capacity to yield. I could name a hundred women who have developed the capacity to yield and yield and yield and yield. And the problem is that if I can't prove myself capable of being faithful to the dictates of one man, I can another. So the object of my life is the God and the blessing that I have.

It has to be years in my logarithm that I don't have confidence to exist. But another thing is to be able to have confidence. Now we have a people who yield. You people will yield to exist. People in Ole Miss will yield to exist. People in Salt Lake and in Arizona will yield to exist. You can force them down and whip them.

Put them into a rack. You can try them with every conceivable thing and they will yield. It's that simple. And yet, Joseph Johnson says, you are still under condemnation. You are not one. How can we become one? I found a principle read this morning within the Book of Mormon. They had confidence in one another. Perfect.

confident in one another. So they were united. And the priest didn't, doesn't have to ask me if my wife is united with me. All he has to do is ask me, do you have perfect confidence in your husband? He says, yes, we are one. He says, call a man to do a certain job. Now I've heard the brethren many times. The father would say, John, what do you think the brother's doing?

Can't you send him on this job, do this work? Brother Barlow thinks to himself. Say, well, George, I don't think so. I don't have confidence in his judgment. And then Brother Barlow would review a few of the things the man had done. I don't have confidence in his judgment. Her father would say, well, we've got to have confidence in his judgment because this is a matter of judgment. We'd better not talk. Say that again. There you go.

And so it's my duty, and your duty, both male and female, to begin to assimilate our character into the likeness of the character of God, and begin to perfect these attributes to the point of possible perfection in this life. And we do this by following the directions of the Lord, and using these attributes, and not misusing them.

immediately. He has given us the keys to everything and the use of these attributes so that we will create this condition of confidence that others can have in ourselves. It's a matter of creation, not form. Be tired of my authority and then may go at my bidding. I have a team realization and a never present knowledge that they will do that because of the naked authority I have. Do it yes. But far better would it be if they did it because of their perfect confidence, present understanding that I can not unite people unless you can unite us.

I can go my way. I can unite myself with a group of men or a group of women or any other group and never stay away. But I withhold my confidence. And so we really might unite as the Lord wants us to. We're not one as the Lord has directed us. That's all there is to it. And that's the only thing that will make us one. A man and a woman cannot become one on any other basis. You husbands and wives have tried every conceivable way. And you know that I speak the truth insanely.

The only way that you can completely unite yourself and become completely compatible is by this element of having confidence in each other's self. As always, the woman might yield and work for you and die for you without you having confidence in her self. You might have confidence in pure curiosity and not have confidence in the other.

But until we can have confidence in the whole church, as a people, that's the greatest confidence. My brethren can pay me, or mine can pay me, or a woman can pay me. That's the greatest confidence. The third brother message, I have confidence. I am myself. I am myself. I am myself. That's what I want. I'm working for my father to be able to say.

and be able to tell my brother, Barlow, and the other brothers, brother and I have perfect confidence in God. The confidence of my father. And I don't expect him to have perfect confidence in me yet. But that's what I'm working for. But I know what's necessary to develop the only center that he can have confidence in. Lots of wonderful, great, and good men.

that you don't know what they're going to say or how they're going to feel in the news, more and more. And that's a heck of a thing. I spent 50 years dealing with those kind of people in this group with other men's wives that I had been dealing with since I was very young. And that was one of the hardest things, and it's still one of the hardest things. I don't know what I'm going to be dealing with when I meet the person.

Whether they're going to blow my head off, or draw me, or do anything else. I don't have confidence in the people on God's earth. We can't be united. Because confidence is the only basis of unity. I can yield, and God will bless me for yielding and for being obedient. I will go. I will go up in the ways of the Lord, and He will bless me.

And as I am obedient and go, I will gain additional confidence. But until I can place my confidence with you, and you with me, we cannot become two united people. Now, I hope seven and fifty years pass, but I've been trying to give you tonight, which is a very important key, and it's what all twisted people need.

begin to work on. This is our next step. Until we begin to work at it, and understand it, and accomplish it, the first thing we're going to keep saying to it, you are a good, but you're still not good enough. In a group that just started, it was 20 years ago, and the writer Barlow would get up and say, you're the best, people that I know anything about on the earth, and you're a good people still not good enough. In other words, you're a good people, the best people that I know anything about, but I don't have time to be depressed, and that's the only thing to do. So whatever our tech subjects might be, whatever our weaknesses might be, whatever our complexes and obsessions might be, that they will. Brethren and sisters, time has come to the realization of the force of our affidavit and beginning to test one after another. And as we do it, in confidence in each other, we can make a decision to live with the unjoyed coming to see us. In honor to my soul, I know that you are stubborn, but you can't stop.

From him shall be taken into life the life of man, saith the Lord of hosts. And again, verily I say unto you, O inhabitants of the earth, I, the Lord, am willing to make these things known unto all flesh. For I am no respecter of flesh, and I will that all men shall know that the day soon it cometh, the hour is not yet, but is nigh at hand, whence peace shall be taken from the earth, and the devil shall have power over his own dominion. And also the Lord shall have power over his strength, and shall reign in their midst, and shall come down in judgment upon a doomer or the world. Take these commandments, for they are true and faithful.

and the prophecies and promises which are in them shall be fulfilled. For I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I forgive not my sin. And though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servant. It is the same.

For behold and lo, the Lord God and His Spirit beareth record, and the record is true, and the truth abideth forever and ever. Amen. My dear brothers and sisters, I have a job to do. The Lord calls the whole world unto His center. I've heard many times the servants of God must forget the Spirit of God and keep it. I've heard that in our days of peace.

When we've been permitted to gather together the saints and talk to them and tell them of the great calamities that are coming upon the earth for the Lord has spoken. In this revelation he meant that unless people repent of their sins and come unto him that they have no promise. Then why is it that since the prophet Joseph Smith for his great testimony that he saw and talked with the Son and was permitted to organize the priesthood of God in the earth and to set it up into operation that there is no more than a mere handful at the present time of people who will accept the Son. When Christ created this earth or this continent so great was the destruction among the children of men that they remembered it for 200 years, and some of them more than that. Kind of a shake-up it is going to be, going to take in our day, to bring about a thousandth of confidence among the children of man. The prophet Joseph told us, there were those now living upon the earth in his day, whose eyes could not be closed in death, until he always changed his mind.

been telling these people would come to Christ, and he'd been telling them about the calamities that were about to come upon the earth. It was tired away for the return of the ten tribes of Israel, and much longer have we got to wait. I'm afraid, my brothers and sisters, that the time is not very long. Some of us may live to see the day, and it may be our children who will see it, or our children's children.

But the Lord has said that not one drop is filled of the words of the prophet to go unfulfilled. Why do we linger? We stand by the wayside and bicker with one another for trifling things and hold out God's commandment. It's so perfect that he knows beyond any shadow of a doubt that he is right and our brother is wrong. Thank you, Ben.

Not an hour, but it might be called the revelation to leave the future. There's any ghost standing on you. Might as well not. So we'd better watch for the same goal. We're working for that all eternal life. So we'd better watch ourselves and watch what we're doing. I remember one time I was having an argument with one of my brothers. It was some spiritual doctrine. And I knew that I was right.

and he knew he was right. We argued for two or three weeks. During the daytime, we'd take our books with us and find points to translate our notes. We started in right after work about four o'clock in the afternoon and we argued for some force for some two or three hours. I left him and said that I knew that my views was right and I wouldn't give in. I won't do it.

I don't care what happens to me, I will not give in. So I went home and went to bed. I stopped the thinking when the thing over. In the spirit of God told me I'd better get up and go and ask forgiveness. I got brother in there. When I said I'm not going to ask forgiveness, I've got nothing to do with forgiveness. If anybody asks forgiveness, he's going to come to me. But I couldn't go to sleep. And finally something said, you'd better get up and go over to where Pryce is. And Pryce was found asleep.

I had to shake him to wake him up. He said, what do you want? I said, come over to ask your forgiveness. In the first place, I was wrong for ever starting an argument with you. I'm not going to stay here until you forgive me for what I've done. Well, he got up and put his arms around me and said, I knew all the time that you'd do this after a while, but you just had to learn your lesson.

I had to give in. It hurt me like tradition, to live a while. But I went home, I went back to the bed, laid down, and I guess the Lord put me to sleep quick, so I forget what had happened. I didn't even know when I hit the pillow, and that's when I knew it was daily. Well, from that time to live, my brothers and sisters, I found out, or I realized, that there's no good.

to argue a point of doctrine. As in Paul always tried to teach us that. If you don't understand the point of doctrine, don't argue over it. Just lay it on the shelf. Leave it alone. Don't even touch it or go near it. But leave it alone. Because one of these days somebody will say something about it and you'll understand it. So we've got a lot to learn.

Have these things come along in order to make men and women out of it, so that we can learn how to get the spirit of God in people. One of the great things is the matter with these people and all other people. In the south, in the forest, in the middle south, and everywhere else. The matter is this little word says. Too many of us have not all these elements. Get them on us. We can overcome them if we can go to our...

Sometimes we don't make any difference whether we're leaders or whether we're not. Sometimes we have to do it. God will uphold us if we do it. Sometimes we make mistakes and we've mentioned it to him.

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