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Talk of Guy H. Musser, Canada, 29 May 1960

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Talk of Guy H. Musser, Canada, 29 May 1960

A talk by Guy H. Musser at a general meeting in Canada. The archive file is labeled Guy H. Musser. The automatic transcript of the opening does not clearly name the speaker. The text is an automatic, unreviewed transcript of the recording, lightly paragraphed for reading. The recording itself is the source.

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I've got to unite upon the proposition of the... You are confidence I have in your character. It's born your character. My confidence in you has to be based upon the condition of your knowledge, of your faith, your justice, your judgment, your mercy, your life, and your truth. That's what my confidence has got to be based on. And my lack of confidence has got to...

I can't center my confidence. upon those destructive elements that are here today and gone tomorrow. The unity between you and myself must be based upon my confidence in the attributes of your character and your confidence in the attributes of my character and with that as a center of confidence.

The bond and the truth can arise in the unity. Unity cannot be called for under any other condition. Our Father has said, I demand that you unite yourselves with me. He has a right to call for that unity because he knows that we can place confidence in his attributes, in his faith.

the attributes that form his spirit. Now our character is formed out of exactly the same amount of that. We have knowledge, faith, justice, judgment, mercy, love, and truth. All those attributes compose the nature of our character, but in an imperfect tradition. The story of the traditions of our fathers and so forth.

That's the difference between ourselves and our Heavenly Father. Because He has perfected His character, and our character is imperfect. A good place to start in trying to arrange for the development of confidence in each other. Our character is enough. Your brother might get up here and say, You've got to have confidence in this woman, in this guy.

this man. You've got to have confidence in each other or you'll be damned. You've got to have it. You've got to have it. The brethren are telling it to you. But because you have followed the man, you haven't converted him. There's only one way for me to gain confidence in you, and that is for me to gain confidence in your character. I know you are truthful as far as you're concerned.

pasty will allow you to. I know that you are filled with faith. I have confidence in your faith. My mother was nearly dead one morning. She was all yellow, something had broken inside. I don't know what it was, some kind of disease. And so she called me to her side and she says, run and call for someone to administer to me. I said, who do you want, mama?

He saw the moment and he said, here's your candidate, Brother Carlisle. I have faith that he has faith and that's the healing. Now there's a simple example, a simple example. In other words, by her association and experience with him, he had developed confidence in his attitude of faith. Well, he called up old Brother Carlisle and he sent him an administrative letter and he was healed.

simple example. In perfect condition. Every elder should be in a position to have people have confidence in them. Every woman should be in a position for the people to have confidence in them. We're in an out of order condition. Sometimes we're sacred. We're fallen. And we're under condemnation. So we have to start from the very ground and work up. And that is to find out but the character of God is life, and why we have confidence in it. Ask ourselves, why do I have confidence in my Father? Why will I say, Father, I will be satisfied with your justice? Why don't you ask yourself that? We have confidence if we have suspected that after. Say to Father, I have perfect confidence.

confidence in your knowledge. Please guide me. We say that. Develop confidence and attitude and knowledge. And why we have, why have we developed this confidence? Not only because God has ordained him and given him the power of endless life and because he has begotten us and he is actually our father and our God.

and our Lord, and our lobby, not because we are bound to him by priesthood, but because history, our brethren, and our fathers have bore witness to us that his character is perfect, and we can have perfect confidence in it, and by our own experience, ensure an unwavering confidence.

It has to be created. Our Father has created us. Consciousness is an element of creation, not of death. And so we have to create. By receiving and processing everything that the Lord tells us. He has said, it has been my experience, my boy. That if you're too ready to counsel people without revelation, you will counsel them wrong, and they will be placed in your judgment. We feel that if we haven't anything to say, they may feel that we don't know anything, but we are ready and prepared to give counsel. So in the perception of that attribute, it would be...

It's better, as Fr. Kimball said, to say, dear brother, dear sister, I'm sorry, but I don't have anything for you today. Come back to me, dear dear. Perhaps the Lord will reveal something to you that relates to this church. And so, that places, the mind, above all these cooks, above all these plants, that doesn't permit the devil to plant in the mind of the...

person who is stumped to get the question answered, any deficit as to the cause is a thing of knowledge. We want to be so knowledgeable that we'll give out information whether we know it's true or not. Because it's clear the man has got it. But if we don't do that, people might think we're unknown. So rather than to say, brother, the fiction, I really don't know.

Sorry, but I don't know the answer to that question. But I can find out the correct answer. Look, if you want me to. I dare you to stop the course. And to give a false answer so that they will lose confidence in you after you. And so, as time permitted, we could build down the line of action. He hates others as to their perception.

and how we create confidence as to the perception. And that's what I want to bring right down to each one of you, husbands and wives, tonight. Say to you, a woman is agreed by covenant to obey her husband. But why don't we say, in the face of faith, in the face of covenant, to obey him as he obeys God. That's the way it should be now.

It's the duty of that mind to begin immediately in the creation of conflict through the perfection of the rapid use of his soul. He's not doing that. He's on very unsafe ground. He's a mindless believer to an unsafe and an unsound and an imperfect soul. That's why I don't stop. And I just change now to don't stop. Most all the...

No, boy, I would never answer a question. No, thank you. I always said, you go to Uncle Roy. Uncle Roy for you. You decide for him. I always understood the sense. And I didn't want to get on the spot. The creation of the spirit. That's it. And it's up to the leader. And the same thing. It's up to the leader to truly represent God. Not himself.

but to represent the character of God. That's what Christ said. He said, why do you keep asking me to show us the Father? When you have seen me, you have seen the Father. Because I truly represent his character. For he and I are one. I have given myself to him and done all things whatsoever he has commanded me to do. And so we are one.

So if you have seen me, you have seen the Father. Or in other words, I am a real representative of my Father in everything. That's what you've got to begin to attain to. And perfect confidence cannot be based upon any other thing. Confidence cannot be based upon a single project.

It cannot be based on the building of a chapel or any other kind of work. The confidence that will unite us is one. That's what I'm seeking. And until we are united as one, the Lord cannot use us as a body. And this is the only principle upon which we can become united, is confidence. Confidence in one another's character. I might submit.

and submit and submit without knowledge. Adam set that pattern when he was offering sacrifices and the angel said, why are you doing this? I know not, because I have been snatched. So there, those two wonderful personages set the stage right there. There was that principle. of obedience to our leaders and to God. So I might yield and yield, yield and yield all the days of my life without developing complete and perfect confidence in a man or a woman or the youth that I yield. So we can't be one. I can develop the capacity to yield. I could name a hundred women.

who have developed the capacity to yield and yield and yield and yield upon the property, especially that if I can't prove myself capable of being faithful to the dictates of one man, I can another. So the object of my life is to prove to God in the blood and that I have capacity to yield to my logarithm, but I don't have confidence.

One thing. Another thing is to be able to have confidence. Now, we have a people who yield. You people will yield to it first. The people in Ole Miss will yield to it first. The people in Salt Lake and in Arizona will yield to it first. Force them down and whip them. You can put them into a rack. Fill them with every conceivable thing.

and they will yield to the church symptom. Yes, President Johnson says, you are still under condemnation. You are not one. The Princeton read this morning that in the Book of Mormon, they had confidence in one another. Perfect confidence in one another. So they were united. And the priesthood doesn't have to ask you With my wife, who's united with me, all he has to do is ask me, Do you have perfect confidence in your husband? Yes. It's a job. I've heard the brethren speak many times. Fathers say, John, what do you think the brother's doing here? Can't you send him on this job to do this work? Their father thinks they're many times. They say, well, George, I don't think so. I don't have confidence in his judgment.

And then Brother Barlow would review a few of the things the man had gotten. I don't have confidence. Her father would say, well, we've got to have confidence in his judgment, because this is not his judgment. So we'd better not talk. So there it is. They corrupt the truth, brethren and sisters. And so it's my duty and your duty, both male and female, to begin to...

assimilate our character into the likeness of the character of God, and begin to perfect these attributes to the point of possible perfection in this life. And we do this by following the directions of the Lord, and using these attributes, and not misusing them, and using them. And He has given us the keys to everything, and we use them.

of these attributes so that we will create this condition of confidence that others can have in our character. It's a matter of creation, not thought. Because of my authority, men may go at my bidding. I have a keen realization and a never present knowledge. But they will do that because of the naked authority I have. Do it your way. But far better would it be if they did it because of their perfect kindness. Understand that I can not renounce people unless you can renounce ourselves. Because these are the attributes that cause us to act.

I can go my way. I can unite myself with a group of men or a group of women or any other group and never say a word. But I withhold my confidence. And so we're really not united as the Lord wants us to be. We're not one as the Lord has directed us. That's all there is to it. And that's the only thing that will make us one. A man and a woman cannot become one on any other basis. You husbands and wives have tried every conceivable way. And you know that I speak the truth in saying this.

The only way that you can completely unite yourself and become completely compatible is by this element of having confidence in each other's self. As always, the woman might yield and work for you and die for you without you having confidence in her self. You might have confidence in pure theology and not have confidence in the other.

But until we can have confidence in the whole church, as a people, and that's the greatest confidence that my brethren can pay me, or mine can pay me, or a woman can pay me, that's the greatest confidence. And the third brother message is to have confidence in yourself. Myself too. Myself and I'm myself. That's what I want in working.

for my father to be able to save and to be able to tell my brother Barlow and the other brothers, brother and I have perfect confidence in my son's death. I have perfect confidence and I don't expect him to have perfect confidence in me yet. But that's what I'm working for. But I know what's necessary to develop the only center that he can have confidence in.

wonderful, great and good men and women. If you don't know what they're going to say or how they're going to feel in the news tomorrow morning, that's a heck of a thing. I've spent 50 years dealing with those kind of people and a lot of women in this group that are other men's wives that I have been dealing with since I was very young.

And that was one of the hardest things, and it's still one of the hardest things. I don't know what I'm going to prevent of this when I meet with them. Whether they're going to blow my head off, or draw me, or do anything. I don't have confidence in myself. We're the best people on God's earth. But we can't be united. Because confidence is the only basis of unity. I can do it, and God will bless me.

for yielding and for being obedient. I will go. I will go up in the ways of the Lord, and He will bless me. And as I am obedient and go, I will gain additional confidence that until I can place my confidence with you and you with me, we cannot become two united people. Now, I hope 7 and 15 years pass, but I've been trying to give you tonight...

It's a very important key and it's what all the priesthood people need to begin to work on. This is our next step until we begin to work at it and understand it and accomplish it. The first thing we're going to keep saying to it, we are a church. It's still not 30 years ago when the group was just starting.

20 years ago, another boiler would get up and say, you're the best people that I know anything about on the earth, and you're a good people still enough. In other words, you're a good people, the best people that I know anything about, but I don't have confidence in that. And that's the only basis. So whatever our tech subjects might be, Whatever our weaknesses might be, whatever our complexes and obsessions might be, let's go about our day well. Brethren and sisters, in this time, let us come to the realization of the cause of our affidavit and begin to protect one after another. We do it in confidence in each other.

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  1. From the Historical Short Creek archive, 1960 documents. Duration 56:55. Automatic transcript (unreviewed). Speaker identification is from the archive file name, checked against the opening of the recording where it names or introduces the speaker.

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