Salt Lake meeting minutes, Volume 2 (1942)
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Salt Lake meeting minutes, Volume 2 (1942)
Archive minutes of Salt Lake general meetings from 11 January 1942 to 27 December 1942. The text is from the archive copy, with line breaks cleaned for reading. The wording has not been changed.
Meetings in this volume
- 11 January 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 25 January 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 8 February 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 22 February 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 8 March 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 22 March 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 5 April 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 12 April 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 26 April 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 10 May 1942 — Sunday afternoon meeting
- 24 May 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 31 May 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 14 June 1942 — Meeting
- 28 June 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 26 July 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 9 August 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 23 August 1942 — Meeting
- 13 September 1942 — Meeting
- 27 September 1942 — General Meeting
- 1 October 1942 — Meeting
- 11 October 1942 — General Meeting
- 25 October 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 7 November 1942 — Meeting
- 8 November 1942 — Meeting
- 22 November 1942 — Meeting
- 13 December 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
- 27 December 1942 — Sunday Afternoon Meeting
11 January 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at Brother Charles F. Zitting' s home, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, January 11, 1942 Held at Brother Charles F. Zitting' s home, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, at 2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided.
Brother Marion Hammon conducted.
1st Song "Now Let Us Rejoice" Prayer: Brother Lyman Jessop · 2nd Song: "Earth With Her Ten Thousand Flowers.
Remarks: (Marion Hammon)
We welcome your attendance from other states and parts of the state. I do not think there is anything we pray more for than the honest in heart will be gathered out.
Brother Owen Allred:
was the first speaker and he said how happy he was to be here, too it was like going to the well for water every season. Brother Musser said I look like my father, and I say thanks, there is no one I would rather follow after. that He then spoke of the unrest of the world, and wondered how long it would be before that same spirit came into our homes. He asked the blessings of the Lord on all.
Brother G. L. Dockstader:
I do not think there is anything in the scriptures better than Alma 29: 6-10 where the Lord said God will raise up men to teach the Gospel. I have heard one of our men speak in public and private and he said a wise man in these times is one who keeps still. I thought of the sealed part of the Book of Mormon. I believe God has given us men to teach us all that we can stand. Brother John Y. has said you are a good people, but you are not good. enough. I pray, brothers and sisters, that what I do say this afternoon will be from the inspiration of the Lord that I may not say anything to the down fall of anyone in the world. I am glad I have the opportunity of being associated with this group, for I believe you are being lead by a Prophet of God. There are lots of prophets in the world who prophesy; men who are not associated 'with any particular creed. Many prophesies been made and many are being fulfilled, but it is a privilege to be led by a prophet of -God. I recall the time when Elijah went to warn the people of Israel; he called together 400 prophets and they ' were prophesying. You will recall at the time of Moses they prophesied. (The rods thrown down and became serpents, and Aaron's swallowed them up.) (Elijah prayed for fire and it came down from heaven and consumed the captains and the fifty. He was a prophet of God.) My testimony to you is that we are lead by the choicest men on earth to day living in mortality. (He then spoke of living the United Order.) God will protect us if we live right. (He 'then read the first verse of "School Thy Feelings, oh my Brother" by Charles 'N. Penrose, pg. 98 in the L. D. S. Hymn book, and referred to the rest of the song.) that Isn't that true? I have been too impetuous in my life. The Lord has been kind to me. I am the result of the mistakes of all my ancestors before me. I am quick tempered. The Lord put a brake on my temper--he broke my leg. A person who is sick knows how to sympathize. The Lord is anxious to save those who do not take the name of the Lord in vain. Many there are now in high places and are taking God's name in vain. (At this point he read the second verse of the above song; and the third.) We must get the Spirit of God around us we sing songs of poets but they get lost of their way. Some of you are from other states. Is it possible . God has called you out or is it by chance. We see the evidences all around us that God. is bringing His work to pass rapidly. Only a few who obey the Gospel will find the way to eternal life. Someday that ship is going to start and if you are not on the good ship Zion when this earth is cleansed, then you are just going to be left. Let us school our feelings; let us be kind; let us think before we act. If it is a trial for some of your sisters, school your feelings, or you will not be on the ship when it leaves. If we get on the boat, then we have got to live the fullness of the Gospel. Can we see the things that are happening today'? Several years ago I defended the Adam-God doctrine. If the Prophet Joseph is wrong then it is all wrong. To get eternal life, you must get all the Gospel; yet they try to keep us from living the fullness of the Gospel. May God help us to continue on and. be of one heart and mind and one faith' and one Lord. May this group be on that ship Zion when she sets out for the Celestial glory, I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Joseph Musser:
I rejoice in meeting here with so many on the first meeting day of the new year. I think this is one of our largest gatherings. We have our dear sister Jeffs that with us and she has been ill for some time. We have Brother Fisher from California and Brother Allred from Idaho. We have had some of the best singing in the church. There seems to be a spirit there that breathes the Lord's desire unto us. I am pleased 'with . We would like, however , those Who are singers to come out to practices on Wednesday evenings. I understand from Brother Rulon that most of the members now are young. We need the older people too. We would like to have Brother Clark see us render music in the Tabernacle. I would like to see some of the older people help us out. I feel on this new year to thank the brothers and sisters who have contributed to these meetings--Brother Zitting, Brother Lyman Jessop, Bert Barlow, Brother Jeffs, Brother Cleveland, Brother Boss. There is cleaning and re-arranging to be done before and after meetings. I feel to thank these people who contributed to the comfort of our Saints in these meetings. I remember we use to have 12 to 18 in our meetings when Lorin was here. But the group is growing, so today this whole house would not hold them. We have so many sisters who have been taking care of the poor and the sick. I understand the sisters are about to be released from the work. They have been most faithful. We feel to thank these sisters. We have a wonderful Sunday evening meeting. Now we have to divide the class, there are so many of them. They have been. teaching the Book of Mormon to the young people. We have another committee looking after the dances twice a month. Brother Zitting lets us have his home for . The committee of three is Marvin (.Allred), Marcus (Wayman), and Edson (Jessop). Recently a crowd of our young people rent skating and the hall was made available for them to have a private party; the remark that was made what a well-behaved group they were and how well they left the hall. If we play we play with the Spirit of the Lord with us. If we Sing, we sing with the spirit of 'the Lord with us. It is true, we are a good people, but we are not good enough. We have had the Gospel; we have had the experience of our fathers and brothers and friends to copy from. We should be nearly perfect because of the advantages we have. Who in all the world have the advantages we have; the understanding of the Gospel we have? To what people has the Lord promised to protect, redeem Zion for; build up their fortunes; protect in their trials? Why, here, this people. Today we can do so many things if we just live the Gospel--do what is right. If we accept every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God given by His servants , we will be blessed. Why are we human; but how long will be that we stay in ·this situation. If we do not improve today, what will we do tomorrow? One of the thoughts that I had at the beginning of this year (of course it is a new calendar year April 6 is the new year by Christ), I feel very definitely satisfied that we have made improvement. I believe we are a better people than we were a year ago. I think we are better prepared to live nearer the Lord than we were a year ago. I believe we are trying to be more honest than we were a year ago. I believe we are not coveting our neighbor's property, wives, children, etc., that we were a year ago. I think there is a better improvement all along the line than a year ago. I believe there is a growing desire to live in harmony more than a year ago. When we are tuned to let our voices out over the radio, our voices form a blanket all over the world. If that may be true with our voices, it is also true with the spirit of the Lord. It covers the entire universe. Over the land and the sea, the spirit of the Lord is there. .And if we have the instruments to plug in there, we can obtain that every day and night. It can be done by every person in the world. If I am wrong and I am disobeying the spirit of the Lord, I will get the wrong key. I asked in meeting on Tuesday night thirty days ago to not talk about another. The pledge was not kept. We thought we would take it over again. In taking it we were considering the scope of intelligence that people may have,--tiny minds, average minds, and great minds, are all under three general heads. Small minds discuss people, personalities, etc. Those are small, little bits of minds, some of them thimbles that would fit a gnat. They-cannot think of anything but to talk about their neighbors . Average minds discuss event s, newspaper event s, events they are not particularly instructive,--spot news, parties, etc. The great mind--the mind that God has placed in the spirit bodies when they are born--is the mind that confines itself to principle, the principles of salvation. Brother Allred (Owen) spoke of that today; at the Cooke home they discussed the Gospel, those principles that will take us back into the presence of Eternal Father that is a great mind. Now, brothers and sisters, we are trying to get up to those things. I also spoke in this last Tuesday night meeting of the Arab motto: "Before we scatter the poison of gossip, we should stop to consider things: (1) Is that particular piece of gossip true? If it is not true, do not scatter it. (2) Is it needful that gossip should be scattered around? If. it is not, why tell it? (3) Is it right to tell it if it is needful? Didn't we once do some wrong? Did not we once stub our toe too? Isn't the man ,who stubbed his toe hurt enough without going around and advertising it?" The Arab who voiced that "thought had a great mind. My brothers and sisters, I hope I did not offend you. I feel go on. in the presence of you people. If I have said or done or thought anything that has injured you, I hope you will forgive me. I am depending on you to help to hold me up, and wherein I need strength, I 'want you to help to strengthen me, through your moral influences, through your prayers, through your confidence. I need your help. We all do. There is a spirit of unrest among some of the people, against others of the people, and particularly against members of the Council and falsehoods are being scattered around and complaints are coming in to us. If any member of the Council of the Priesthood is not doing right, the Lord will set him right and it is no one else's business. You did not call them the Lord. did and He will set them right. If any of them when, He has called does wrong, God Almighty will bring them back. Don't you worry about them; but let us all remain faithful am true so that we ourselves will not be found guilty before the Gospel seat. These are principles of life and salvation that we are giving to you today. I feel to express the gratitude in my heart towards my dear brothers and sisters. You have been generous in your support; you have been generous in your tithes and contributions. I want to tell you that the Lord is blessing you and will continue to bless you if you continue to pay your tithes. It is a commandment. The people who are doing it are building up a wall of protection around themselves by so doing., God bless you, Amen
Quartet: sang "An Angel from On High" by Myrtle &. Leona Allred, Rulon Jeffs &: Rulon Allred
Brother John Y. Barlow:
Brothers and sisters, we have had such good advice in the speaking that I feel timid to stand before you today. I will say that I know the Gospel is true. I know that some of these things are true. I have thought of what Brother Musser said, that we were getting better. He will excuse me if I say, in some things. In some things we are getting much better. In some things we are falling down. I think there are some who are trying their very best to live the laws of God. I think there are others that are sleeping some. I am just talking from what I see in daily life, for some come to my home and tell what things are going on. I often think that I would like to read to them a little advice that Brother Woodruff gave us: "A few words to the Latter-day Saints; let us cease finding fault ,with one another. Let us not say that this person. Or that person are doing wrong. It will do you no good*** All of us look at ourselves. It will do us no good to apostatize, etc. We should take these things to our hearts. I have heard a great many complaints in the last week, and I thought that if I had. a farm and that farm: was level and good but one acre on it was rocky;· what would I do? I would dig up those rocks and make it good. We heard a song read.; one of those songs written by the guidance of the spirit. Another song is, "We are sowing, daily sowing, countless deeds of good and ill. *** Others are watching us do . If I was doing something to my neighbor that was not right , I would want to learn from . We are living in a peculiar time that prophets have told us about for years. We hear some say that we have fallen; that God is going to raise up another people to take our place. But God has said that he would never raise up another people. Let us not get it into our heads that God has rejected the Church. Why would He send an angel to set it in order? There are many good and honest in heart in the Church. This is not a day of scattering; it is a day of gathering and those who have left and gone to the different nations of the earth, they want to get back: He said He would lift up an ensign and all the nations would head to it. Isaiah said it would be established in the utmost bounds of the everlasting hills. Here God is going to take care of His people. Our people are going to get a scourging that will bring them back:. We talk about us being a blessed people. Do you know a more blessed people on earth when He picked out men to keep the everlasting Gospel alive? Those same men told us what to do and how to do it. Some say, "Did you see an angel? Did an angel come back and see to it? All the revelations in the Doctrine & Covenants are given to us. Do you know that we have the promise that if we obey God's commandments and laws that we will have the constant protection of His holy Spirit? Are we keeping them? Are we doing it? It grieves me sometimes to see my brothers and sisters in the things they come and do and say. I do wish they would go to the Lord and dig them out for themselves. Remember this one thing: If; our Father has been able to live this law and able to instruct His children., then he can instruct us. Let us think of these things and find out for ourselves. I wish that everyone in this audience would find out for themselves where they stand. We could not help it if you did not believe what we instructed you to do. God bless you and help us to improve and live nearer the goal that we claim to live. We claim to be Saints that is greater than any name we could be called in this world. Amen.
Brother Marion Hammon:
One thing--we ought to be careful how we spend our money. This coming April is the first of the year—Christmas that It is a landmark in our lives. I would. like to see us put ourselves in shape by this coming April, that we can get together for a jubilee so " the husbands and wives can go to meeting in peace and joy. We are still children; we have not grown out of our diapers. This coming April we should improve ourselves and prepare ourselves so that we can have a meeting that will make us rejoice. I am going to try to have my house in order, at least a lot better than they are now.
Closing Song: "Parting Hymn." Benediction: Brother. Alma A. Timpson. L .Allred.
25 January 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at Brother Charles Zitting's home, 4118
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, January 25, 1942 Held at Brother Charles Zitting's home, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.
1st Song: "Redeemer of Israel." Prayer: Brother Arnold Boss 2nd Song: "Though Deepening Trials."
Brother I. W. Barlow
was the first speaker and spoke about what the apostles at the time of the Savior went through; that if we put ourselves in tune with the Lord, we will be able to get the things that we ask for in righteousness. He bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel. And that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God.
Brother Spencer Young:
was the next speaker. He spoke of how glad he was to be here, of the persecutions he had been through; mentioned the passage in Sec. 1 of the Doc. & Cov. where the weak and the simple shall proclaim the Gospel to the ends of the world. He bore his testimony that the Lord can do marvelous things; if we live His commandments He will protect us.
Brother Wayne Hunter:
I am certainly glad to be here with this people; I was privileged to come here and go to school and be with you. I want t put myself in a position to get all I can. I have a testimony of the Gospel and feel it is true. I hope I can go forward and keep the spirit of the Lord with me. I am thankful for this opportunity and hope that I can put myself in the way where the Lord can have more influence with me.
Brother Riedl:
Brothers and Sisters, it is a joy and a pleasure to be here with you. It is the first time in my life that I have ever stood before a congregation and I can truthfully say if it were not for the spirit of the Lord that gives me the strength I could not do it. I pray that we can all have enough of the spirit of the Lord with us regardless of how impossible it may seem, and that we will be able to stand up I wish the Lord's blessings upon us all, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Ed Christensen:
Bros. and sisters, this is not a surprise to me, for the spirit of the Lord whispered to me that I would occupy this position. I am happy to be here. I want to say that the Lord is pleased with the young men of this group; Nathan, Wayne, the boys from Canada--they are going to be the pillars of truth in the future. The Lord loves them and blesses them. The Lord loves us all. We are trying to do His Will, trying to build up His kingdom. For we were in the spirit world, because we love the plan of salvation; because we were valiant in the spirit world. that is why we want to be valiant here. I hope it will be my mission and blessing to bring souls to the light of the truth. What greater mission can man ask for than that ? I pray that we may realize our desires as did the Apostle John, and we will if we are faithful and true. I was thrilled beyond expression of words by what Brother Rulon Jeffs read this morning. I thought only a God could speak so perfectly, that could ring so true, and be so beautiful. I could have wept tears of joy. Because he could use those beautiful words, was that he always had the spirit of God with him. I trust that we may place ourselves in such a position that we can have the Holy Ghost to direct us and our thoughts, and those of the world will either hate or love us for it. How thankful I am that I am. associated with you brothers and sisters and these good men that the Lord has placed at the head of His kingdom here. The world little realizes the mission of these men who hold the keys of authority. But they will know it and the wicked will tremble because of the words that will be uttered by His servants. They will see the day when they will wish they could come crawling on their hands and knees, but many of them will not have the privilege. The Lord is going to stretch forth His arm, and you will witness it, and you will partake of it, those who are righteous and endeavoring to serve the Lord with every ounce of energy that they have. I look into the faces of some of these sisters and almost shed tears of joy because of their loveliness and sweetness--the kind of lives they live. Are we ashamed of the testimony of Jesus Christ? I hope that day will never come and that we will stand valiant to the end. I have been reading some of the stories, true stories, of the early times--men who were not ashamed to die for the testimony of Jesus Christ that is our desire--to become honest, up-right, noble men and women. I know I have no other desire. If the patriarch was a true patriarch who gave me my blessing, I have much to live up to and realize. that What a blessing; what a privilege. I sometimes wonder where I do stand. As I stated. in Sunday School this morning, it is a hard fight to conquer the adversary yet we must put him behind. us and keep him there. I hope we will continue to shine brighter than ever, and I feel that the time is not very far away that ·we will have a chance to prove our nobility and worth in the sight of our Father in Heaven Can you read the words of the Prophet without shedding tears those who lived and died for the Gospel of Jesus Christ? We can do as much; maybe not in the same way, but we can do much. I rejoice again in my association with the members of the Council. I thank the Lord for it, for the good women like Sister Boss, Sister Morrison. Those are my feelings and thoughts. I am sure you rejoice too in the association of friends in the truth. because they are not ashamed of the testimony of Jesus Christ. May your hearts and minds always be open to the truth that I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, our Redeemer, Amen.
Brother Marion Hammon;
I consider it a privilege to follow Brother Christensen speaking. I believe his testimony is just and true. None of us will doubt, brothers and sisters, that we are trying to follow and heed the principles of God. We would not deny that each of us is willing to take upon them the name of Jesus Christ, and We have expressed by our faith trust in the Lord that we are willing to stand before the world. Is that true? With such faith comes very marked responsibility. Much has been made of the apostles of Jesus who are to be the .judges of the earth. I have been acquainted with this people for five years. you have been associated together about 10 years. Now I wonder if we are taking stock to see if we are justifying taking the name of Jesus before the world. There are men I have felt a nearness to and from time until now it has never changed. I have not felt it with everyone. I am telling you, when people take upon them the name of God, they are taking that it with their lives. We are told by Brother Joseph that we are not willing to take upon us the name of Christ unless we do. We should not say that we are living the fullness of the Gospel unless we are. I think we have left some of the principles of God. I say again, that when God gathers the wheat and leaves the tares I feel He will come to this people and then go to the Church. I still have that testimony.. President John Taylor said in 1875 (J. of D., Vol. 17,. P 79), "If a man was found stealing, he was brought before the Church **** and so if a man got drunk he was brought up immediately etc" Those are my sentiments and feelings. We must leave behind us the things that are not right before God. I remember that the most foolish thing was to take up the word of wisdom. I think that is not taken up enough from this pulpit. As I understand the history of Section 89 of the Doc. & Cov., it was given as a revelation to the prophet as a result of his seeking the Lord concerning the smoking and Chewing and spitting of tobacco during their meetings. "And all saints who remember to keep and do these saying, walking in obedience to the commandments, shall receive health in their navel and marrow to their bones;" that is the promise of God to the Latter-day Saints. If ever there was a weak class of people it is us. We have a hard time to walk in obedience to the commandments of God.. By little things, we will be able to 1ive and do greater things. I am confident that the Lord is watching us day and. night. I pray God. to give me strength to overcome the things that keep me away from His sight. Wayne (Hunter) lives at my house and I know he respects my position in that house. If we could be men like boys, instead of like the men, God would use us more quickly. that is the word of God to you today. If the young people go to hell, it will be the old people who point the way. It does not enter into the hearts of the young men to drink and smoke, etc., unless the old men set the way When we see the example of old people around us, it cannot help but have an influence upon us. I am not here because of the efforts of any man; I am not here because of any efforts of my own, but because God has placed me here. There is no greater people since Adam than we are. When God the Eternal Father lets His son come and dwell with us again, when He allows the things to happen to us as He has promised, it will be when man can live the plurality of wives and sisters can join together and perfect themselves before God. When we can be as one, Jesus will come and administer to us. If we break the covenant s that we have made, then we cannot expect to receive the promises and blessings of God. I pray that we may measure up and I do it in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Choir: "Israel, Israel, God Is Calling."
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
I have been greatly impressed. with the remarks of the various brethren, and I hope the Spirit of the Lord will continue to strive with us during these exercises, and that I will, in response to the call of Brother Barlow, say something of interest and worth to you today. I feel. very humble and very inadequate to instruct my brothers and sisters; and so I cannot do it without your help and the Lords. I may be able to answer some questions in your minds. I have been impressed with the remarks of Brother Young. His grandfather was the great Moses who brought the people to this land; he is one of the great men of the earth. He defied the government of the U. S. and got away with it. He kept the armies of the U. S. out of these parts with the help of God. He was a man of such great power that the Lord ·worked through him. One of the first pronouncement s he made when he came to this valley was that if the Saints kept the commandments of God that they would not have to again come under the jurisdiction of another government other than the Government of God. In each case the people failed. to keep the commandment s of God; there we have had to come under another government. It is for this reason that we are in war time today. Had we kept away from the government of U. S. we would never have been in the present conflict. It took Enoch 365 years to perfect a people to the place where they could be translated on the part of the earth which they live. It took Noah 120 years to warn his people of the coming flood. And we have now gone 110 years or more and we are still wallowing around. I feel to endorse Brother Hammon's remarks. The time has come when we have got to get the Spirit of the Lord and keep it. (He then spoke of the difference between Cain and Abel; the law of sacrifice-- it was taught to Father Adam.) "I know not, except the Lord told me to do it. If that is the key to the doorway to redemption and exaltation-taught by our first father and our Father and God at the present time. He gave us the first great lesson to progress in the earth-- was, to walk by faith; "1 do not know except the Lord has told me to do it. There are a great many things that the Lord has told us to do, and we do not know why. When Cain and Abel came along He told them a blood sacrifice was needed in order to testify of that which was to come when Christ should be born in the earth. There was about 4,000 years space of 'time between the days of Adam and the days of Christ. During all that time the righteous were taught that they of should perform these blood sacrifices to testify of the coming atonement. No doubt the Lord had in mind the fulfillment of that great event that was coming in the future, that the people might prepare themselves for that great event. Abel selected from the best of his flocks and his offering was accepted of the Lord because he stayed within the blood law. But Cain came along with a different kind of sacrifice; it was not a blood sacrifice. He had not the faith to comply with that law of God. He made the offering because his father taught him of the things. But who else taught him? Lucifer, the wrong kind of offering. And so he came under the jurisdiction of Satan. There are certain laws pertaining to our exaltation and salvation. We hear on the right and left of us. Well, the Lord is not going to be so strict... I hear it in my family. The Lord is bigger than the law; the law is his expression. God never changes! When He gives us a law, it is a law and perfect. You have got to obey- law. In the early days of the Church people came into the Church who had already been baptized in two other churches The Lord set Joseph straight--no matter how many times you have been baptized in the world, you have got to be baptized by one holding authority; so all had to be baptized. We have the law of faith; we have got to repent. A law disregarded as much as or more than any of the laws of God is the Sabbath Day, because there is a world-wide breaking of the Sabbath Day. Brother Louis (Kelsch) is working on the· Sabbath because the U. S. compels him to do it, or not hold the job. So it happen with so many of us, working 24 hours a day, some of us. The Lord has given us understanding; the law is clear. The law book of God is full of information regarding our lives. Brother Hammon spoke about the Word of Wisdom. There are a great many things in the Word of Wisdom that are not taken into consideration The Lord has to tell us to go to bed early and arise early that our minds and bodies may be clear and refreshed for the day. How many of us observe ? Yet if we would do that we would be a much better people. He has told us that loud laughter is a sin. How many of us observe ? We have those conditions , in little everyday things. I was reading from Brigham Young the other day; he would not let the -Saints cook on Sunday. He made them cook their main meal on Saturday. He did not let them run their horses on Sunday; even machinery had to have a rest. is the word of the Lord to us. If we would keep the law of the Sabbath our machinery and our bodies would last a lot longer. The land should rest every 7th year. The land is entitled to the Sabbath Day. which grew voluntarily that year should be left for the harvest of the people. The fiftieth year should be the great jubilee. In that year all debts should be wiped off. How .wonderful that it would be if we just had those laws written upon our hearts. I hope that law will yet be manifested in my life and my children's and children's children that we can not only observe the seventh day in the week, but the seventh year. If we would observe , we would raise 800 to 1000 bushels to the acre, instead of 15 bushels to the acre. I remember as a child seeing a picture of spies being sent in to see what kind of land the land of Canaan was--the great vines and production. When the earth becomes to its normal condition, we 'would be astounded. Now we feel we have to work every day of the year to make a living that When we serve the Lord with all our hearts and keep His commandments we will have to work only a few hours a day. Our lands and cattle will be fruitful. There will be no barren women in those days, except those for special reasons, as in the case of Sarah. They overcome their barrenness by living the law. We have some wonderful people among us. I often think of old Brother Barlow and how he brought forth a family of sturdy people. We of the second, third and fourth generation have that great heritage to cling to. I know the Gospel is true that if I know that I live, I know that fact. I can realize and appreciate. I believe my testimony strong enough that if necessary I would give my life. I say that with reticence because I do not went the Lord to test me unless He feels it necessary. that I testify to you. brothers and sisters that unless I live up to the requirements of the Gospel--every law that God has given in this dispensation--I shall never live in His presence throughout all the eternities. And there is no other blessing I want more than --to be able to live in the presence of Father and to be with my mother. that gives you the task before me. Don't apostatize if you do not see some of us perfect. If it is necessary to weed out those who are weak, then it will be done . Joseph Smith said, "I am going to bring down these people." And he did. I do not care whether Brother Barlow or Brother Musser, or Kelsch or Zitting, is not doing something in accordance with the wishes of the Lord, I am not going to apostatize because they do it . Stand upon your own feet free to 'work out your salvation, no matter what you see me do. It is not your business about me. I am in the hands of God Almighty. He will handle me when it is necessary. And He has handled me. I am not going to let Bro Barlow's actions make me apostatize. God bless you, .Amen.
Brother Charles F. Zitting:
During the meeting I felt three different times that I was going to be called upon. If I could say amen to what the brethren have said, I believe I could preach about as good a sermon a s I could by saying anything myself. The Lord said at one time through His prophets that a man may appear to be a Saint in every way; he may tell you many good things; he may be a good talker; he may be emotional; he may be able to testify that angels have appeared to him; yet all that did not prove he is a saint. It is true ' we do not want you to apostatize for things that we do, but we also want your prayers, that we are in a position that we cannot hear what you say, but see what you do. On that one thing there may be men among you that do not seem to be living the Gospel. From your view point they are not Saints; yet in the sight of God they are striving to live an. exemplary life, to live all the principles of the Gospel. Do not be in too big a hurry to judge. Stories have been going around about certain people in the group. You are not justified in even repeating a thing about your brothers and sisters unless you go to the person concerned; and if you do that you will not repeat it. There are always two sides to a story. Deep down in their hearts they may be striving to do as God would have them do. How easy it is to judge the other man from our view point. In the next few years, and they are going to be great, there are going to be a great many things take place. Maybe it will come faster than we expect, but it will take a lot of hardships to bring about the Lord's purposes. There will be a great many men who will not come back. Our country 'did make one big mistake--slavery. We let it go on and on, and then the price we had to pay to bring it back to where it should have been. Another great mistake our government did make .was that they drove the Mormons out, killed our prophets, burned our temples, houses etc. They have still got to pay for • .And that when they pay for the blood of the Prophet, it is going to be a greater debt than the slavery question. (Told of an article that he had read in the Saturday livening Post recently about the early New Englanders and Puritans, how they were enslaved, and the present Catholic situation, in Boston.) that We have got to change our system of government. We have no right to drive people out. Though all the man-made governments have got to fall so the Kingdom of God will rise, yet we must remember as Saints that ','We must uphold the Constitution of the U. S. It was inspired of God; for that reason we have got to uphold it. The inspired part of the Constitution will be established in the Kingdom of God. We are for the Kingdom of God and it is up to us to live exemplary lives. We have got to be careful what we say. Our responsibility is to our children. Have you seen where a mother is sloppy in house work that her daughter is the same way? Sins are passed on to the children. It is up to us to set an example. You will weep when you see what has come upon on your children. If you are living up to the principles of God, Sisters you should, you will look down. with joy at them. May God help us to do right, I pray in the name ·of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
I have been greatly edified by the testimonies of this afternoon. The brethren today have given us some good counsel, sermons, etc. Let us heed them. They will do us no good unless we put them into practice.
Choir: "Evening Hymn" Benediction: Brother Otto Holms. LJAllred.
8 February 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at home of Charles ,. Zitting, 4118 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, February 8, 1942 Held at home of Charles ,. Zitting, 4118 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.
1st Song: "How Firm a Foundation." Prayer: Brother Axe1. Ertckam 2nd Song: "Sweet Hour of Prayer" by the Chorus.
Brother Bert Barlow:
was the first speaker and he said it may cost him his job to be here, but that he decided to give the Lord the benefit of the day. He stated ' he feels good in the Gospel, but be does not do so well in keeping. the commandments of God. "Honor thy father and thy mother;" he quoted and said we little realize the real meaning of it. As ye sow, so shall ye reap." He then spoke of how abundantly the Lord had blessed him; how "We can better ourselves in the Gospel, in our homes, with one another; of charity and how we can overlook the weaknesses of others; stop arguing and. look to ourselves.
Brother Robert Shrewsbury
was the next speaker and said he was grateful for the opportunity. He spoke of the rough environment in which. he had to work; the evil they think and do; the lack of worship of God. He told of when he first received a testimony of the Gospel; how the Lord has told us to come out of "the world; he did not expect the Lord's people to be perfect; the Lord's kingdom will be established, and he hoped he would be privileged to be in it. He asked God's blessings on the people of the group.
Sister. Laura Barlow
was called on next and she said she was thankful that she was brought out or the world; of the little everyday mistakes we make and should overcome; of the joy sister wives and children bring in the home; of the blessings she has received.
Brother Newboldt:
He was called to speak next and spoke of the young people, the joy we receive in teaching them; how we must read and study the scriptures; how he enjoyed the testimonies of Brother Barlow and the other brethren; of the promises the Lord has given us if we keep his commandments. He spoke of an experience he had. in Holland on a mission in speaking upon faith, and how the Lord blessed him.
"The Day Dawn Is Breaking."
Brother Joseph Jessop:
Brethren and sisters, I am very happy to be here today. I miss these meetings with my brethren. I guess I lack faith and determination, although it has been an extremely hard, cold winter. Transportation is not the best; like my faith, it is faulty; Nevertheless the Gospel-is true. I hope I will be able to stand the testing that is coming. The time will come when the faith of every man and woman will be tested. I am sure of . I am weak and frail and feeble, but I am sure of some things; the Gospel is worth everything in the world that we can think of. I am extremely happy when I stop to think of what the Lord has done for me in my life. I feel humble, extremely humble. I am continually calling upon the Lord day and night for I realize full well that 'without His assistance I would be nothing. I appreciate you people, your confidence and faith in me. I hope and pray for power to do good among the children of men, through me some people may be saved. We are living in one of the best places on earth. If we do not know it, we will soon find it out. We are going to be pinched. down until our heads are almost pinched off. This government is in one hell of a mess. I have known it for the last 50 years. I followed the life of some men who have been fighting the system of government, who are striving to get a better system established. I have studied one man in particular; he went to jail and went thru plenty, though he did not know the Gospel. Brethren and sisters, men and women are no better today than in the time of Jesus Christ This land is full of traitors and hypocrites. I wonder how. Many of us are true; true to ourselves and each other. We must go on and we cannot flinch in this thing. I thank God for my parentage and His people, and you chosen people who believe the Gospel, the fullness thereof. May God bless us and help us to be faithful and remain true and take whatever may come; and keep sweet no matter what in the name at' Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
I have been greatly interested, brothers and sisters, in the things that have been said today. How deep has it sunk into us? We like it and we like to hear it. How far does it go? We have been told here, there is going to be a test. H. C. Kimball said, "When you walk the streets of Salt Lake and you cannot tell the Gentiles from the members of the Church, then will be the test, the test, the test; etc." Sometimes the Gentiles dress a little better. He said also, brothers and sisters that you will never get into the Kingdom of God with Babylon on your backs. We want to learn to make our own clothing and make them respectable and not have to buy from Babylon. Many things have been said that are true? What Brother Jessop said was true, every word; so was most of the rest spoken today. We have been talking about living the fullness of the Gospel. What is it? Brigham Young said the fullness of the Gospel is the United Order and Plural Marriage Brother Joseph said this morning that we have got to live the United order. When we live it we will have hard time of it because of hurt feelings. We get hurt easily. It is a sifting time; this war is upon us. Our sons and daughters are being taken from us. What can we do? The only thing we can do is pray to the Lord. We have been having this told to us for years am years; and now it is upon us we have to be driven to it. We will be living the united order because we will be driven to it. If we can get the Spirit of God and keep it in our midst, we would not have this scandal going around, none of this back-biting. What are we going to do? God has always placed men to lead the people, to protect them. Surely' the Lord God will do nothing except what he reveals through His prophets. Would the children of Israel listen to the prophets? Now I am reminded of Samuel when the great high priest that allowed his sons to do things that were not right, and the Lord spoke to Samuel to t ell the .great high priest to listen to what the Lord told him. He said, "It is just, it is right, I will have to take it." The result was that the Lord fulfilled the thing. The same will be true of us. If we get in the way God will remove us. I want to be moved out if I get in the way. We talk about we people who have been called out. Do we show it in our actions? And our living? On the other hand. we see people telling what the other fellow is doing and forget what we have been doing ourselves. I want to tell you sisters, whenever you undertake to get above your husband's you are going to go down; he is your lord and master. You cannot get above him. When Mary went to embrace the Lord and Master after He had risen from the tomb he said, "Touch me not for I have not ascended unto my Father in Heaven." I want to t ell you sisters, if your husband is living :right, he is your lord am master. If he is not, then you will be given to someone else. Nevertheless, the man is the head and no woman will get exaltation without the man; and no man without the woman. They have got to be together. I wish this under current that has been going on would stop, we would start living as we should and leave other people alone. If you will do it, I promise you will be the real sons and daughters of God. God bless you, Amen
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
I endorse fully the remarks of President Barlow, and I commend them to the very earnest consideration of this body of people. It is not that men want to rule unrighteously over women, but it is the pattern the Lord has set and it is the law of the eternities. We could not get away from it if we tried. Just as stated, if a man is not worthy of a woman she will be taken away and will be given to one that the Lord does love. Every woman who is good and pure and her heart and soul is willing to be guided by the laws of eternity, will be taken care of. Another thought-some 30 or 40 years ago some of our brethren rather high up in the councils of the Priesthood and church were fooling with what we call reincarnation; is, we die and we are born again through another woman and perhaps we are born in some great character who is living upon the earth. One woman sometime ago said it was her seventh time of being born again. When Brother Barlow dies, if he continues faithful as he is now, in due time he will be resurrected with all that he has now, and he will be resurrected as John Y. Barlow, not as Jesus Christ, or Moses, or Joseph Smith. is just what you will be; you will be resurrected as you are and you will not belong to anyone else. Jesus Christ died and was resurrected and He will never die again, and He will never be born again as He was by Mother Mary. neither will Adam., this is His last resurrection . True, He came and took upon Himself mortality. When He got through, He reversed the procedure. He was not resurrected; it is true He died, but he did not die as we will die. We must consider these things seriously. We here must get it out of our systems, this damnable doctrine of reincarnation. We talk about final death and dissolution. When our bodies die and go back into their original form--when people have disobeyed the commandment s of God, then they go through the second death; the intelligence in the body goes back into intelligence and mingles with intelligence. Some time that intelligence may go back into a new form in another body. We should understand that we do not have to die and be born over again several times. I have a magazine coming every month on that doctrine. It is false. Brigham Young and Joseph Smith branded it so. I want to again bear my testimony with reference to what Brother Barlow said on the United Order. If we could understand it, we would take it as a fly takes to a horse. But as was said , it touches our feelings, our purse, etc.; there is jealousy. If we just realized, everyone in this house today is in bondage; you are all slaves, if not to one thing, to another. It is the great economic law given to Nephi will take us out of this thing. There will be no rich, no poor, etc. Of course it will take time so that we will love our neighbors as we do ourselves. We are liable to break under it; we are so disinclined to do what the Lord wants us to do. We do not want to get out of that sectarian notion. The time is going to come and we will have to do it. The time will come when we will .be so distressed and so lacking in food and clothing that we will have to do it. When we get so we cannot stand it any longer, the Lord will say, Where is the law and plan that I gave you?" that will that help you overcome you and greediness. Then will be the time I understand that then we will say . Father, Thy will be done, we have had enough."
Closing Song: Before Thee Lord by the Chorus. Benediction: Brother Rulon T. Jeffs. LJAllred. J3
22 February 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at Brother
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, February 22, 1942 Held at Brother Charles F. Z1tting'-a home, 4118 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.
Brother Joseph W. Musser conducted and :presided.
1st Song: "Praise to the Man." Prayer: Brother Otto Olschewski. 2nd Song: "Praise Ye the Lord" by the Choir.
Brother Sturm:
was the first speaker and asked the Lord to assist him in speaking and said he has a testimony of the Gospel; we are not responsible to anyone on earth but the time will can e when we will stand before our Lord regarding our stewardships; do we remember the covenant s we have made; God has selected us to perform a special mission in these days, and if necessary he requires us to .lay down our lives for Him; we are but a handful, but we shall increase and multiply not alone in substance and number, but in the things that the Lord gives us to do. Since returning to Salt Lake he said he does not fear the trials, for he has always received help from his Heavenly Father; he loves the work in the Gospel and wants to do what the Lord requires of him .
Brother Edson Jessop:
Brothers and sisters, this is a surprise to me. Nevertheless, I am thankful For this opportunity. I am thankful for the privilege of mingling with you good people. I would like to carry on my part in the up building of the Kingdom upon the earth. I am thankful for my parentage. I pray the Lord to bless you all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Ross Lindgren:
I have always been afraid of this time. I am thankful though that I have the opportunity to express myself and to strengthen my testimony in talking. I am thankful the. t I have can e to Salt Lake away from California, and that I am with you people.
Brother Wayne Hunter:
This is a surprise, but it is an opportunity to get up and bear my testimony. I am thankful for the association of all you good people. It has done me a lot of good. I have always thought it would be a great pleasure to have as great a testimony as some of you good people have. I ask the Lord's blessings on us all, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen .
Brother Logan Kunz:
My dear brothers and sisters, this is indeed a surprise to me. I am thankful to be back with you folks. I really missed your association. I have been back in Independence, Missouri, And I am glad for the opportunity of going back there, although I do not say I like it as well as I do here. I was greatly surprised at the smoking, the word. of wisdom in the wards there. I would go out to the plant and everyone was smoking. The women, you could hardly see their faces for the smoke I am. thankful for the Gospel and its blessings and for my parentage. I pray the Lord's blessings on you, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Peter Monfranz:
I guess we all know the Gospel is true and the truth is true. (Told of an experience he had on the streetcar When a nurse noticed him reading the Truth and asked where he got it.) (He then told of when he first received the Book of Mormon in Holland, the thrill it brought him; the testimony he has of it now. Also told of his niece who was so happy, so full of the spirit of the Lord. How he had to read letters from the missionaries in the attic; how they preached plural marriage, and he asked the minister where he had gone to church why he had not told him these things. The minister told him the Mormons were the worse people on earth.( Back: to the nurse--he gave her two Truth magazines and told her a lot more, and wrote her a letter. ) that If we live all the commandment s of God we will make a place for spiritual. children; there is no end to it. What the Lord is now, we will become. The more we study of the Gospel, the more we learn. The Church came with papers to cut me off the Church and I told them that I want to find the way to perfection. It is my desire to live in the highest Kingdom and that I cannot live there unless I know the truth. May the Lord bless us and help to progress, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen •
Sister. Laura Zitting:
I am thankful to have the privilege of standing before you and bearing my testimony. I am thankful that I am a member of this group of people. When I think back to the time when I was working in the church, then I .think of my life since then, I know I have chosen the better part. My folks, none of them believe as I do. They are tolerant with me, but that is all. Now it does not matter what they say or do. If my own folks do not want to associate with me, I do not care and I know I am on the right road. I hope and pray they will someday see as I do. Conditions are going to be so bad that people will turn to God and they will see the truth and accept it. I am thankful for the calling I have been called to by the Priesthood. I am going to do my best. There is a great work ahead of us to do. We must cleanse our lives of those things that are not right. The greatest concern in life for me is to teach my children in the right path. It is hard with their associations in school, but if we live the right way they will turn and live the way we are. I hope and pray that we will try to live worthy of the blessings that are for us, and I ask it in the name of Jesus Christ Amen.
Duet: "Out of the Dusk to You" by Brother Jess Bigley and daughter (from Tooele).
Brother Eslie Jenson:
I can say, my brothers and sisters, I am happy to be here and mingle my voice with yours, and to receive of the spiritual food that we get in these meetings. We should be thankful , we can meet with a group of people who can work and believe for one common cause. We have a great mission to do and carry on, to keep the principles of the Gospel alive that martyrs and Saints have died for. (I feel week in this position and hope I can have your faith and prayers.) It did me good to see these boys called upon to express themselves and bear testimony. It has been my lot in life to work with young people. I have had the opportunity of teaching and presiding in the lesser priesthood in the ward for I learned to love young men that capacity. The Lord is certainly pleased with young people who are not ashamed. to express them-selves, even though it is not much. We all have different talents. It is good, then we can make a perfect body. I think it behooves us to grow that the Kingdom of God might grow. It has not been mentioned today that it is the birthday of our first president of the U. S. I believe there is not a person here who does not realize that this is a chosen land. The Lord said it is so choice that he has said that if we do not live up to this choice land that the people will be wiped off. So the Lord raised up Joseph Smith. As we look around us, we wonder what might happen. (He then told of an incident about picketers in 'Washington State where a man wanted to go to work and they wouldn't let him.) What are we on the verge of? We know we are living on the best land in the world. We should take our dictation from our Heavenly Father. And how many of us are willing to take dictation? Every tub will have to stand on its own bottom. I cannot save you and you cannot save me. We must stand on our own feet. The Lord will give us strength, even though our loved ones turn against us. The Lord is no respecter of persons. We know when the Lord speak s. Brothers and Sisters, my heart is full that I have been privileged to associate with this group. Up in Millville we meet each week, and we are growing. The Lord will answer our prayers; we all lack true faith. We must have that faith that is undoubting. In the trials that are ahead of us we will have to have such faith. We as a people will have to be drawn closer together. Brigham Young said that the fullness of 1he Gospel is the united order and plural marriage. How many are ready for the United Order? The time is coming when the Lord will call on and tell people to live that order. It will grow and all other kingdoms of the earth will crumble. Every man will have to recognize that Jesus is the Christ. I have a testimony of the Gospel. I hope I will be worthy of all the blessings; have been pronounced upon my head and hope we will be ready when the Maker comes again, is my prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Male Double Quartet: "See the Mighty .Angel Fly" by Rulon Jeffs, Rulon Allred, Edson Jessop, D. W. Jeffs, Jimmy Jessop, James Martin, S. Denos, and Lyman Jessop.
Remarks: (.Joseph W. Musser:-)
It is George Washington that "the Angel Moroni came to and instructed and directed in the cause of liberty. He is the prince of this nation. It was the .Angel Moroni who guided Columbus to come to this nation.
Brother Rulon C. Allred:
I rejoice that I have the privilege of speaking to this body of Saints. I pray that the Lord will direct my words and thoughts and that what I do say will be in accordance with Hi s wil1. I feel like Apostle Paul when he said, "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ; for it is the power of God unto salvation, etc." There was no condemnation to the world when there was no light, but that light came into the world and many have rejected it. And. again the Apostle Paul was one of "those men who was left upon the earth who had the calling and direct confirmation of Jesus Christ. The Savior appeared himself and told him, "Saul, Saul, it is hard for you to kick against the pricks then He said, "I am Jesus Christ whom thou persecutest." Paul went to Ananias who held the powers of the Priesthood to administer the Gospel of repentance and baptism of emersion for the remission of sins, and submitted himself to him in accordance with instructions. In the meantime an angel appeared to Ananias in the City of Damascus and told him that Paul was coming to him. Ananias said, "I know him for he is one who has persecuted us from city to city; but the angel of the Lord said, "'He is a chosen vessel in my hand s and a light unto the Gentiles. After Paul's baptism by proper authority he went forth to declare the Gospel to the Gentile nations. While Paul was in Assyria he found those who taught in lies and untruths. Brethren and sisters, the spirit of dissension is not of the Lord. Paul stated to the Galatians.: Though we or an angel of God declare unto you any other Gospel than that which you have already received, let him. be accursed. We are chosen of God in this dispensation. Joseph Smith was one of the greatest men who lived upon the earth. He never taught false doctrine. He taught that God is the sane yesterday, today and forever. He was not ashamed to declare that doctrine to kings, etc. He taught faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism by emersion for the remission of sins and the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost. No one could confound him. He could hardly give these teachings out before false doctrines were begun; revelations were receive by individuals. One woman declared an angel of light had appeared to her telling her that her husband was a chosen vessel in the hands of God, telling him. he must not travel more than 100 miles from home or he would be destroyed. The Prophet detected the deception of this so-called. angel of light and the woman's husband filled missions thousands of miles from home. The reason I cite you these things is to have you remember one thing: I am a servant of God just so long as I uphold the prophets and the former revelations of God; I am a servant of God just as long as I preach the same Gospel that Joseph Smith taught. Paul the Apostle taught with power and might and was commissioned direct by God. He knew that no one could preach any other Gospel than that which we have preached, etc. The Lord tells us in Doc. & Cov. 52:14, and again I will give you a pattern in all things that you may not be deceived, etc." that Gospel is preached to all men. There is no one who need be ashamed of it; there is no one who has the Priesthood who dare deny it. Some of you may say, "Why do you "talk this way?" Because I have a message to this people. Lucifer is working with choice people and this is a choice people. He has more knowledge than you and I have in and of ourselves. Stay close to the Priesthood of God and abide their counsel. My father went from Idaho to old Mexico where he received my mother in plural marriage at the hand of .Anthony W. Ivan s, who was commissioned by proper authority with the special. calling. My father lived. this law for years in Mexico. Later he was instructed to move to Idaho where he lived the law of plural marriage quietly. After the time had passed, there were individuals who come forth teaching plural marriage and other doctrines without men having been called. Among these doctrines was that of reincarnation. They had ran before they were sent and were tossed hither and thither by every wind of doctrine. When you or I break one of the commandment s of God, we become subject to the powers of Lucifer. My father was doing the best he could to show these people their error People in that part of the country began to believe in these false doctrines. Just at that time one of the sisters began to receive revelations, and she revealed to my father that he was the reincarnation of Parley P. Pratt; Sister Hale, the wife 'of Heber-I. Hale, was Deborah. The brethren here and there did all they could to stir them from that course. She lead half of that group after her. They became some mighty people in their own estimation. They finally got to the point where "they did not believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet. They did not believe the Gospel was restored in its fullness. To be born. again did not mean to be baptized and receive the laying on of hands. Joseph Smith was only a symbol of what was to come. Where did they end up? Gambling, etc. There was not found a spark of any religion in them. They did not believe Joseph was a prophet or Brigham was a prophet. They were no longer in line; they were not holy. The spirit of God had departed from them and they knew it. The Savior said that once there was a man possessed of an evil spirit and the authority of the Priesthood came along and cast that spirit out; and after it had departed it wandered in barren places. After the departure of this evil spirit, the man cleaned and garnished his habitation, but because he had defiled it, the spirit of God could not dwell there, and the evil spirit returned and found the habitation, and went and gathered seven other spirit s as evil as himself; and straight way they came and possessed that man's house, and the end of that man's life was more terrible than before. So it is with those who turn from the Gospel of Christ and deny the Spirit of truth. Though. they clean and garnish their habitation, they have sinned against "the light of heaven and the Spirit of God cannot dwell in them; therefore they are subject to every-wile of Lucifer. I have a lovely wife--Myrtle; I love them all whom God has given me. She has a brother and he was as faithful and true as any man could be, but he began to know too much. He went to Joseph and told him that he had come to set the Priesthood in order. Sherman (Lloyd) came to me and said that none of these people would give him. a hearing. I gave him three days; 18 hours every day for three days studying his "glorious" doctrines of reincarnation. One of the things he taught was that; When we partake of the Sacrament, in partaking of the bread we covenant to keep Christ's commandments; when we partake of the wine we only pray that his spirit will be with us and say nothing about keeping the commandments. Sherman said this signified that after we had overcome the flesh, symbolized by the partaking of the bread, and took upon us the spirit at Christ, symbolized by the wine, we were above the law and it was no longer binding upon us. He said, "Brother Rulon, I am above ; I am renewed in spirit." Then he began to tell me "who I was. He told me I was the reincarnation of Parley P. Pratt too. We spent three days and night s discussing these things. When he got through, I said, you have started out on an improper hypothesis, and you will always arrive at an improper conclusion. Two and two are only four. If you start out two and two are five, you will always arrive at an improper conclusion in mathematics. I told Sherman my message to him was the same as the Prophet's to Mathias, My God has revealed to me that your God is the Devil. I no longer desire to give you shelter; my door is open." Apostle Paul said, "If Christ is the head of "the Church, then man is the head of the woman; and as the man is the head of the woman, she should obey him even as the church obeys Christ. If my women folks ever get to the point that I am not good enough to redeem. them and I am not holy, God will take them away from me. The scriptures say that if a women desires to obtain knowledge, let her go to her husband at home; let than. go to the Priesthood which presides over them. If I do not know enough to instruct my women folks, let· them go to the Priesthood which presides over me. I want to bear my solemn. testimony, having received it of' the Lord; if I do not know more than my wives do, I am. not magnifying my priesthood. is the position and responsibility of every man who magnifies his priesthood. If I cannot save them, then the Priesthood over me will have to. I know that the Gospel is true and I know; Joseph Smith is a prophet of God. If plural marriage was as easy to live as it is to teach, all mankind would be saved; but we are judged by our work s. I am going to tell you the ultimate end at which Sherman arrived: (Joseph Smith is not really the man spoken of' in the scriptures who was to restore the Gospel; he is just a symbol: Jesus Christ is the author of our Gospel. The priesthood is our means of receiving His revealed word in this dispensation. If' we do not follow the revealed Gospel as made known by the Priesthood, we will be dammed. This is my testimony, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
I hope the time will never come when "the brethren. called. upon to give the word of the Lord will fall short of their callings. I received my calling direct from Gad through revelation. I am willing to listen to my brothers and sisters, and I try to do it in great patience; I have never seen a man low enough so wicked, so ignorant end so despicable that I cannot listen. I have been taught. There is no truth that is not the Gospel. I can learn :from every person. man, woman or child. When a person comes to me with a message from God who is not in the Council of the Priesthood, then I will not receive it, for I claim that right to receive that message from God myself; is my right and privilege. If I go wrong, and try to or do lead the Saints astray, then the Lord will take me away or bring me down to repentance The Priesthood of God can never lead this people astray. I want to announce that as a definite doctrine, truth and fact; and men I receive direction in the position that I hold, direction must come from above and not from beneath. We have shown in our writings and our conversations one with another, President Grant (and I honor Pres. Grant) received his ordination from one lower in rank than he was. In other words, he got it from below him; not necessarily from the devil, but Brother Lund was below him in office. He could not give President Grant something that he did not have. I could not give Brother Barlow something that I did not have. In the sacrament , for example, I must enter into that covenant first in order to be able to pass it to someone else. These are some self-evident truths as I see them. I receive no instructions from anyone on earth except from the Council or from God. God never contradicts Himself". I feel to endorse the words of Brother Allred. I have had. some of those experiences myself In the days or President Woodruff a sister tried to teach him the correct way to teach the Word of wisdom. The Lord gave her the revelation to teach this people the correct way to t each the word of wisdom. (At home they had a dairy and she had a quarrel about some cream or butter. She finally apostatized from the church and left it.) Those things happen and will happen because God said in these last days these thing s would happen. My heart pains .-when I see such things. These people I do love with all my heart. I do not want any schisms. I want all of us to be prepared to follow the Priesthood Council. If we lead you astray, God will set us right. We are not subject to any individual below the authority of God; President Woodruff said a man is not 'worthy of a wife if he allows her to lead him. Just as God leads the Priesthood so the man leads the woman. People come to me from the Church. and tell me so and so let Brother Barlow go into a spiritual meeting." They cannot move that temple if he should go in there. Why? Because the Priesthood of God is greater than the devil. These brethren of the Council are called by revelation. Maybe some of you think that it is a mighty poor selection, but the Lord has done it. I did not do it. Like Joseph said and John Taylor said, "I did not give this revelation; I had nothing to do with it (speaking of plural marriage) and fought it at first and as Joseph himself did, he fought it until the Angel threatened his life saying that principle would be established and he would die and God would get another man who would establish it. I did not know myself; neither did any of the others in the Council. If I teach you folks anything that is not in harmony with the standard works of the Church, I want you to reject it and go to the Lord yourself. If I am doing something, you do not have to worry, the Lord will take care of me. God bless you, Amen.
Closing Song: "The Spirit of God Like a Fire Is Burning." Benediction: Brother H. Smart. LJAllred.
8 March 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at Brother Charles Zitting' s home, 4118 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, March 8, 1942 Held at Brother Charles Zitting' s home, 4118 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided
Brother Louis A. Kelsch conducted.
1st Song: "O Say What Is Truth" Prayer: Brother Joseph Jessop 2nd Song: "Come, Came Ye Saints"
Brother Roy Johnson :
Brothers and sisters, I feel humble, this afternoon, in attempting to address you and I ask that the Spirit of the Lord might be here and dictate what may be said today and be fed the bread of life. I hope that blessing will rest upon us today I feel well in the Gospel. I do not know that I have felt any better. I feel like pushing on to help establish the Kingdom of God on the earth. I believe the people down South are generally in good health. We have had a bard 'winter down there; the frost is off the ground and what crops 'we have planted are coming along. So we feel encouraged. The Lord has blessed us. One of the greatest blessings we have or could have is good health; few children and older folks have had colds. "From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh" So when we bear our testimony we s peak from the bottom of our hearts under the influence of the Holy Ghost. We are all living in a time when we need the assistance of the Holy Spirit we need it in our work and homes; in our sleep and at all times. How are we going to maintain the Spirit of God with us, than by keeping His commandments There is no other way to prosper than by keeping His commandments. There is no other way we will be able to stand up under the trials and tribulations in the next few years. The Lord has told us how to live one -of the first commandment s that he gave was the order in which to live to gain our salvation. A little later He told t us that we had fallen. down. Now the old prophecies are being fulfilled. The judgments are at our doors. Are we going to be able to stand when these judgment s came upon us? (He then referred to the 1st Chap. of 1st Nephi, how Lehi prophesied to the people of Jerusalem and told. them they must turn from their 'wicked ways, or destruction would follow, etc.) that is the principle we have got to come to; we will have to shake off the ways of the world and live the ways the Prophet tried to set up. I ask God's blessings to be with us and help us to realize our missions here on the earth; we may live right no matter what the consequences are. God bless you, Amen.
Brother Rich Jessop:
I am. Very much delighted at the sight of this gathering of people and wonder as we go on from day to day just how' long we will have the privilege of meeting with each other. Life is filled with adversities. I rejoice very much in the testimony of the Gospel that I enjoy. I feel the Lord has been very merciful to us; yet the weight of the responsibilities we have as a people of the Lord makes me wonder how we will stand. I am afraid we fall down in a lot of these things are expected of us by the Lord. It is my humble prayer day in and day out that as a class of people we may stay together, for the signs of time are upon us. We not only support each other with our prayers, but the time will come when we will have to help with our hands and strength. It is my firm conviction that we have among us these servants of .God. It is my privilege to have associated with the key men whom these brethren followed. It has been my privilege to have listened to their counsel. To me these brethren are emulating in the footsteps of those brethren. The time has come and the blessings have been offered to us today that have not been offered to those who have gone before us, and with that we must live up to every law. I cannot disregard these things and still be justified. Brother Roy said one of those things we must do is unite ourselves in the laws of God. It is my testimony, brothers, and sisters, if we will put our shoulders to the wheel, sustain the brothers over us, our blessings will increase. If each of us take stock of our own hearts and see how we are rated by the servants of God, we cannot get to the Savior of heaven and earth without the approval of those \whom He has set to direct us, in more detail, in more perfection until we come to a full and complete unity. This is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Fred Jessop:
A few days ago we had a''bl1zzard'' from the north; it seems like the "breeze" is coming from the south to day. I pray that the Lord will direct the few remarks that I may make and along with that it will make sufficient impression upon me that I might grow, for I want the· will of the Lord to be done whether it conforms with my physical desires. I do not feel much like a preacher, but I certainly feel good in the work at hand; in the society of this people, and more particularly in the spirit that I fee1 emanating from the brethren directing us. I feel like stirring up renewed determination. I know it is awfully hard for me to do, for I seem to continually make determinations to do better but it seems I continually do not accomplish it. I feel to endorse the words of the other brethren. I rejoice in the course that we are following Just what is the Lord trying to do with us; the brethren are trying to bring into our hearts we must do better; they are here to direct the way and help us understand. Somehow we do not understand it that way. We that want to do it our own way. I hope sometime we will be more pliable. I read in Joseph Smith's teachings that we may as well rend the veil today as tomorrow . I pray the Lord will continue to be merciful to us and help soften our own heads to receive these things they are giving us. This I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Choir: "High on The Mountain Top".
Brother Louis Barlow:
My brothers and sisters, I do not know what to say to benefit you today. I enjoyed the singing. I am glad to be here. I still have a testimony and hope I will always have one. I know it is the right work. I know the Lord answers prayers. In our coming up here something went wrong with the car and we were on a steep hill. I went out and asked the Lord to bless us and it was just a few minutes until we could go on. I know I am full of faults and mistakes. Each meeting I go to it brings renewed determination to do better and go on in the work. I feel it is my duty to learn as much as I can of the Gospel for we are told the time will come when we will have to go out and preach again. I feel that if we do according to the counsel we receive we will be able to go out and teach the people. We have been told we do not have to be learned, but that if we have our hearts in the right place the spirit will direct us. We have been trying to live the united order as much as we can. If we learn to be prepared for the united order then sometime we will be able to live it. I feel it is my duty to live up to the things that are expected of us. I feel thankful for my parentage and for the privileges that I have. I am thankful for the testimony I have. We are put in circumstances so we have to call upon the Lord and humble ourselves. I am glad to see you all and pray we may carry on and be able to put forth a stronger determination toward the things that we know be right. I pray we may be able to put forth more effort to bring about the united order, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
My brothers and sisters, I have been on a trip down south myself and I know something of what we have had to put up with down there. Some of you others know too. . The more trials we have the greater blessings we receive. Do we realize that trials are the stepping stones to the Kingdom of God? "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution." (II Tim. 3:12) Few of us can take it, but we have got to do it. We have got to live closer to the Lord; keep His commandments more diligently. You might as well do it today and tomorrow. then we can, as the Prophet Joseph Smith said, get in on the other side and see. I have been greatly edified by the remarks of these brethren, mostly on the united order.. It is the twin to plural marriage. I have heard. people--some of the sisters—say that fellow is after a young girl. When the Prophet Joseph started to fill up his quorum, the same was said then. Of course this is true. Girls, don' t look at the men when they ask you, with disgust. On the other hand, some of the men don't have any reason. They don't know where they are going, instead of getting down on their knees. I want to tell you, the brethren are anxious to fill up their quorums. I want to say to you all today, no girl or woman will have eternal increase without living that law.· The Lord told the Prophet that if a man had ten women and they were virgins and belonged to and no one else, they were his and were given to him for their eternal exaltation in the eternal worlds. I don't care what a man's age is, if he a good man and can take a daughter of mine into the eternal worlds. On the other hand, I want the young men to take part in this too. There are a great many of these things going around. President Young said, "Many of the women are fighting the law, of God and by so doing they are cutting themselves out of the eternal worlds." They are trying to break the cable (celestial marriage) What law did Adam live? Celestial marriage. Now the other law is a twin to it,--the United Order. We will all get along very well it we do not get our feelings hurt. If you hurt our feelings, then it is bad. I know the Gospel is true. I know we have got to live these laws and how hard it is to live them. But it has got to be done. Well, let us say, "The Kingdom of God. or Nothing", as they did in the early days. We have some or the choicest spirits that ever come this earth. Today it is different than in any other time or age. When the other brethren that were living this law they had the· Church authorities with them. Brother Musser and I have been under bond. We have seen the time -men they will do everything to protect us, and another time when they want to do everything to stop us. But today it is weeding out individuals-the dross, the tares--and leaving the wheat. Today men are staying out because the President told them to; and those who do go into it today study and prepare, and know the condemnation that it will bring them. Do you think half the people here will get an exaltation,? We hope so, but we can never tell. Find things out for yourselves. Until you do do that you are not going very far. All I want to do is get to the foundation of these things. If these men are not telling you the right thing to do, God gave us a guide and a way to do. The minute a man gets of "the path and track, he will know. I went to prophesy a little today, and I prophesy that there are men in this house today that that will go on, live the whole laws and keep the commandments of God and go on in the Celestial Kingdom. of God With their families. God bless you, .Amen
Song: "Dare to Do Right" by Marvin, Eva, and Rachel Zitting.
Bm. Louis Kelsch (remarks): There is a thought in that song: "Other men's failures can never save you".
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
There has been much said today, brothers and sisters, of great value. The testimonies have been humble, plain and clear. ,We have been admonished to do right. Start today and not wait until tomorrow;. I was impressed with Louis' (Barlow's) humble testimony about the car (truck). The very fact he was lead to pray and that the Lord heard that prayer points to a great principle in life. There is no reason in the world that the Lord should not listen to us if we are doing our duty. The little children pray to us and that with confidence is a principle that we can all follow. Those who are as a little child will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The power of prayer--"Whatsoever ye ask in faith, with an honest heart, and you shall receive", etc. If ask in faith and for something that will be good for you. Brother Louis asked to get to the top of that hill. I remember Brother Lorin was going from Bountiful to Salt Lake taking some papers to President Taylor in Salt Lake. The horse at once stopped and began to tremble. He urged the horse to go on and then the more he urged the worse it got. He prayed and after an hour all at once the horse got up. He found out later that officers had been waiting in the ambush for him. Now "the spirit of the Lord was with that horse. The horse that was made sick and could not go on, and the message was delivered. Prayers cannot be to simple. The simplest prayer will penetrate the hardest places and if this people would learn effectiveness of prayer and would follow that particular line of thought, there is not anything that is proper that we cannot accomplish; there is no sickness that cannot be overcome; there are no accident s that cannot be avoided. We find brethren anxious to get into the law of celestial marriage. Prayer, the right kind, will get you there. One of the brethren wanted to know this morning about his children to get married. The answer is, is up to her. hope to see the time when men will stand up like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and when their sons are ready to marry they will send their servants out to find a daughter; or send their daughter and tell her who to marry; and they will tell their sons who to marry. that is being done now to a small extent. We are often told in patriarchal blessings that we chose our companions before we came here and we were sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise before we came here , and we are told that sealing would be renewed upon our heads and go on. We come here on account of our traditions and lose sight of that and we marry those who do not belong to us. So and so can dance a little better than the one she should marry. Divorce or family disagreement comes. Sometimes they marry two or three times before they find the right man. What a wonderful thing it would be if we got the will of the Lord in the matter, and then tell your son it is your wife or wives; and to the daughter there is your husband, go and marry him. that is .the condition we have got to come to. I do not like the thought--well, it is up to her. We have had some very wonderfu1 matches in the group where people have come to the Council of the Priesthood and asked for help along that line, and sometimes they take advice and counseling. And so far as I know there has not been a mistake yet. I want to endorse with all my heart the advice Brother Barlow has given us regarding our mating. I remember Heber C. Kimball admonished the young people to get busy. Don't counsel us old men to do it. Of course we have laws and regulations. A girl cannot marry .without the parents' consent. These juvenile situations at the present time--the court is trying to get hold of this people. I wonder if 'they got after Mary when she brought forth the Christ at the age of 13 or 14. I tell you our girls are better off married at 14 or 15. I admit the crime is going on. I am not advocating marrying juveniles before they are ready to marry, but I am admonishing young girls to marry if it is right, rather than to be among the filth. I remember when I got married they said I was crazy. "You cannot keep a wife on your salary." Then I was told to get another, and I kept them as long as the Lord wanted me to. My children have been provided for to the present time. The Lord sustained me in that family. I used to wonder how my father got along with his 36 children; Brother Kimball with his 45 wives, etc. They got thorough because God Almighty was with them . If you had 45,000 wives given you and the Lord was with you, you would get through. I want to advise the young people to take the counsel of Brother Barlow given today. The parents--why, I have had to marry some girls over the objection of their mothers. What would you want them to do? Go to hell? You cannot have a kingdom unless you live the celestial order of marriage. I feel very intense in this matter. There are girls here in this house today who should be married, and there are men here who should take them. And there are parents here who should get them to marry. If you cannot find out, there is something wrong. God bless you, Amen.
Song: "Now Let Us Rejoice."
Brother Moroni Jessop:
I believe this group is on the spot more than any other group of people in the world. We have more given to us as we go on. I happen to know there are things that these men have not told us, and when the time comes ripe they will be a lot different "than what these men have said today. There are many experiences of Brother Woolley that I know! like the one that Brother Musser told today. My Brother Joe and. I were told when we were kids, if we did not listen to our father on the principles Joseph Smith gave us that we would go down to hell. Our people have been accused of everything that is not right ever since the Church was organized in 1830. Brigham Young said he could he condemned. for revealing some things if he told them because the people were not ready for it. I know these men cannot tell us many things that would condemn us if they told us. We are not ready them. I am determined to defend the principles that I was taught by my father and by the servants of 'the Lard. I sustain these brethren in the work that they have for me to do. "The Kingdom of' God or Nothing," H.C. Kimball had that inscribed on his cane.
Closing Song: "We Thank Thee, 0 God, For a Prophet."
Benediction: Brother Rulon T. Jeffs.
LJAllred.
22 March 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at Brother Charles F. Zitting's home 4116 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, March 22, 1942 Held at Brother Charles F. Zitting's home 4116 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided.
Brother Marion Hammon conducted.
1st Song: "Came Let Us Anew." Prayer: Brother (Father) Olschewski. 2nd Song: "If There's Sunshine In Your Heart"
Brother Lorin Jessop
was called on first. "I have always been afraid of this time and it is here. When Marion looked down that way, I could see a wicked gleam in his eye. I have thought what I would say, but that is a thing of the past. I am proud to be a member of this group and who I am. I am proud that I have the mother and father I have. I do not know what to say to be of benefit. I ask the Lord to b less us all, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Arthur Holliday:
I appreciate being here today and enjoy the spirit here. (He then spoke of "faith in God, the gift of healing, casting out of devils; of a man the other day who spoke of what it would. be like after this war is over--everyone would be able to live their own religion.) "Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, ••• and everything will be added unto you." I am. glad to be a member of this group. I hope and pray that we will always serve God and keep His commandments, that we will be able to finally go back and redeem Zion.
Brother Don Wayman
was the next speaker and said he was glad to have this opportunity to speak;- one had to depend upon the Lord. Spoke on "Am I my brother's keeper" and told a story of two little boys who left home and went to the seashore; go into a small boat there, got lost at sea, a freighter came by during the storm; the captain debated whether to stop for the little boat, and did. The captain found that the little boys were his little sons, and began to cry. "It is a great lesson. I have a testimony of the Gospel and it is getting stronger every day. I ask the blessings of the Lord upon us as a people in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen."
Brother Charles F. Zitting:
It is inspiring to see this beautiful crowd today and to see this beautiful day after two winters in one. The thought came to me, if I have an empty mind and I am able to say anything, it is because the Lord put it there. I will not endeavor to talk very long, but I want your faith and prayers that I will be able to say something of benefit to you; something that will leave us more one. We have got to see eye to eye. If Jesus Christ himself should come down to visit with us, would we expect Him to give us messages that are already given; or a new message? You can be assured that it would be a new message. I feel sure that if He should make an appearance, we should be having our ears open and we would have faith that a new message would come. So it is With those presiding over you today. If your faith and prayers in that speaker are for something new, speaker will be given something new. Brother John Woolley. and Lorin Woolley gave us much Gospel that was new. The ones over us today, if you have faith in them, will be able to give you new Gospel. (He gave an example of the united order, one of his wives talked to him about the united order and asked questions about it. He said Lyman and Rulon and families are living it) Many will be called to live the united order when they can live it. How can we expect a people to live the united order except under the principles of God. Abraham lived it with his big family and with his servants and relatives. Where is it recorded in the books that way, my wife asked. She thought about it and said it looks reason able. From your own husbands, if you have faith that they can give you new Gospel, and you keep your ears open, you will receive new things. You will get it if you tune yourselves for it. If the people of this group would expect and have faith that we would get something new, we would get it. I pray that we will grow, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Song: Duet by Ed and Irene Christensen, "The Old Missouri Hills".
Brother Axel Fors:
I am happy that I have a knowledge or the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I am glad for what I have. I hope I can gain more knowledge as the days and months and years roll by, and use that knowledge to build up God's kingdom on earth. The devil has knowledge but he is using it to tear down that kingdom. Knowledge only is not what we are after; we must have wisdom and the spirit of the Lord to guide us in using this knowledge. If we do not, and boast and become proud, we had better look out. The knowledge may become dangerous to us some day. When I left Europe 14 years ago now, I did not suspect in the least what I have received a knowledge of today; the fullness of the Gospel was being preached and lived today. It is miraculous to me the way in which that knowledge was brought to us. I will forever be thankful to the man (William Thomas) who brought it to us. Receiving of the knowledge in the first place was somewhat of a miracle. In the old country I was working with a man who taught me the first principles of the Gospel. We came to Salt Lake, built a little house and our neighbor (William Thomas) taught us the fullness or the Gospel. The Gospel is a wonderful thing; it causes no discontent .When it is lived properly. Trouble comes when we do not live it in wisdom. I have often Wondered why it is that we as a people live as we do and defy the whole world. Is it because of what they, our enemies, accuse us of? Because of the lust of the flesh? If it was, that could be satisfied in a cheaper way than living this law of God. When I was on my mission I met many people and heard of their ideas and ways of religion. They said they wanted to be at the feast spoken of in the scriptures. I wonder now if those people really would feel good sitting at that table and eating. The Prophet Joseph taught us that when we die and lay down, we will arise with the same appetites and tastes that we died with . If you died hating a principle of the Gospel, you will hate it on the other side. If you have learned to love it on this side, you will love it "When you receive your body again. We have overcome the world and love that principle which the world hates. I know the Gospel is true and I am full of weaknesses, but I have decided to overcome these things. I pray God to bless us that we can be useful in His kingdom to build it up, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Song: "For the Strength of the Hills"
Brother John Y. Barlow:
My brothers and sisters, I have been greatly edified today in the remarks of the brethren I think the whole thing has been taught us today has been if summed up in "Be ye doers of the word and not hearers only." We have preached a great deal. to keep the law of celestial. marriage alive. Let me tell you one thing, the moment we receive the Gospel of Jesus Christ and were baptized and had the reception of the Holy Ghost, we entered into the celestial law. Suppose we were baptized and had hands laid on us for the gift of the Holy Ghost and stopped there. What then? One of the apostles said, "To your faith add knowledge, to knowledge add temperance, to temperance, kindliness; kindliness, to charity." The pure love of God is the kind of charity. Suppose we went a little further. Suppose we go on a little further and go into the temple and receive a wife and stop there. Then what? Where will we get; what will we do? These are facts laid down to us. A man who enters the law and keeps all the commandments up to that time, he will receive what he earns. How can he expect to receive the fullness of a law when he has not entered into it. It is the same with every other blessing that we have got. There are a great many try, to live the united order in our families. We have got to go on further. We cannot stop there. There are a great many laws laid down in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We cannot get around any of them. We have got to live them and be united as one. I picked up the newspaper the other day and everything in the paper was destruction; murders, cyclones in the east, (500 deaths) 22,000 Germans killed, sinking of ships, etc. The Lord told us this years ago, He would send out the elders and preach the Gospel after that he would take a hand and destroy the 'wicked that the righteous might live the laws of God. Orson Pratt said the time would come when the Japs would. be subjected. Another prophet said (Lorin) he had a dream where a cloud kept coming until it hit the U. S.; another cloud came until it came to the Missouri River; then a bunch of black birds came over. Asiatics came west and came to the mountains. He also saw the Priesthood working in those lines. This dream repeated two wars that would come to the U. S., the next one would come to the Missouri River. When a man prophesies, it does not make it so; we are in the midst of wars. The constitution is the best in the world . It was inspired. we are supposed to uphold that constitution. We expect that in upholding it, many of our dear ones will be in it. I told you to get the spirit of God and keep it. Have we been doing it? Are we going to make any effort? If we do, God will bless us. If we don't, we will take what others take. I do not want to be fault-finding, but I want to urge you young men and women not to forget your prayers. God hears and answers prayers, I have seen it done. God bless you, Amen.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
We have had some wonderful sermons today. More especially have we had the laws of heaven laid down to us very clearly and forcefully by President Barlow, and. if we 'were to stop right there and receive those words, and put them into practice, this group would become very strong. I think Ephraim was one of the most disobedient tribes that Jacob had, yet Ephraim is the tribe that will have to endow the other tribes with their blessings. We, of Ephraim, will have to. fit into that responsibility that will enable us to receive the tribes of Israel and to give them their blessings, particularly Manasseh. I was glad to hear Bra. Fors speak about living all the laws of the Gospel. There many principles of the Gospel that we will never live in our mortal lives. As Brother John throughout the intermission today, the celestial principles begin with baptism. We speak of the fullness of the Gospel only relatively. The Gospel has not yet been preached in its fullness. It will not be preached in its fullness in this mortal existence. If we cannot live up to the Gospel as it has been revealed, how can we be expected to take up greater responsibility on the other side. If we do not overcome here, as one speaker mentioned, we will arise on the other side with that weakness. If we over come here and learn the lesson of mortality, we will be freed from the powers of Satan. If we do not, he will continue to lead us astray. Some people say we cannot live celestial laws in this life. Bless your souls, you will have to in this life to be saved. If you do not live it as the light comes to you, you will never have the privilege of living it. I was looking over the group here today; it was a little over a year ago that we took a tri p east. We have 15 or 16 people here in this audience who are converts to the work that we performed at that time. I rejoice in that fact. There are something like 20 who come from the three places we visited; Sister Lavery and sons, Sister Olschewski and family, Brother Sturm and family. They have come to Zion in response to that call; in response to that gift of gathering. I recall that a person came to me and said he had great weaknesses. The devil does not compel you to do anything. Neither does the Lord. If the devil .compelled us to do things, we would not have our free agency. We do often blame Satan for things we are guilty of ourselves. True, he is the negative of light;. There could not be positive without a negative. It is the positive that makes the negative possible. It is Satan's work to get you to reject these principles that have been taught today. Brother Barlow gave us the truth and Satan's work 1s to make you to the opposite There is the positive side of the Gospel. If we want to believe the negative, and go to hell, we have our agency to believe it. We ought to be a little more honest with Satan in our lives and not blame him for everything. He is very faithful in the. mission he has. He tries to influence my life and your lives in a way that is not proper. He tries to make me wait until tomorrow something that should be done today. There is another point I want to bring out that is that when Satan sees he cannot move us or influence us and we will not move, when he finds that out he turns right around and tries to encourage us and push us overboard the other way. He is too treacherous. He tries to influence us that we will be greater than we are. ( example--Sidney Rigdon and how he pushed him overboard.) I feel that ought to be a lessen to this congregation today. Brother Lorin in his calling should be as great as the President of' the Church in his calling. President Taylor said, "I would rather be a door-keeper in the Kingdom of God, than to be president of this church". Why? Because the door-keeper:-designates who can go in and go out; it is higher. No matter what our calling is, let us be faithful. Sometimes we feel we are not getting along as fast as we should. Dear Saints you can and are getting revelations; revelations from the Lord, too. I read the scriptures end interpretations come that were never given to me before. At times a great flood of light comes and I learn what the Lord meant. The light of His spirit—the intelligence from above comes to mind and a revelation comes to me. All of you know it. The Lord is revealing His mind and will to us, sometimes things he already has given us. The Lord bless you and help us to live up to the promises we have been given. I promise you as a servant of the Lord, that when you are prepared to live up to the light given, you will receive further light and further light until you are prepared to go up to meet the Savior. God bless you, Amen.
Brother Marion Hammon:
I am going to confess a few of my own weaknesses. I was hesitant about making any remarks until Joseph spoke upon the subject: You cannot blame Satan for your weaknesses. He has the power to try you but never can overcome you unless you are willing. (Example of making cement and dampening it down.) that is what Satan is doing--damping us down. I am sure he is dampening me. I know he is on the job, and so am I. but I am. not doing as I ought to. I am sick at heart at the progress we are making. Brother Joseph gave us some consolation. God knows I am telling the truth. You women are not doing your job; my wives are not doing their job. I am not doing my job and they tell me about it. I feel happy in my work. I feel. I am where I ought to be. I hope and pray we can do more. The brethren are anxious to take more wives. Some of them are damning some of us straight to hell. Brethren, and sisters too, do things and they know they hurt themselves. Yes, we are our brothers keepers. Brother Dockstader is my keeper because he taught me the Gospel. It is not enough that I am kind to my family. Riding down the street one Sunday morning one said, "Well, you are thin skinned in that respect. I am thin skinned more than they can see. If you are experiencing what I am experiencing, you are being dampened down. If Satan can get me, then it is my own fault. I want to be tested and tried. until I am ready for the higher things . Satan has the responsibility to see that we make good and if we are not good, we ought to be plucked out. It is a good time of year to take stock of ourselves and revive our spirits. We ought to be grateful for the cleaning of this house. We ought to be careful of the wear and tear on this house. I hope we can. rally to our possibilities. A. lot of us are hungering for the united order and I am too. I feel we will live it. Anyone who thinks that it is not going to be a cross is highly mistaken. It is going to come at a day like we had with celestial marriage. When the united order comes we will have to go forward with that that reminds me--how many-of you pray to God to set the Church in order? How many can keep it in order and it will depend upon you and you and you. When it is set in order, the one mighty and strong comes, it is going to stay in order. How many of you are ready to keep the church in order? I am not. If you die tomorrow your obstacles will not be removed. The one mighty and strong is not going to take the troubles out of the way. He is just going to bring more work. If the church was set in order, there would be a lot of us who would not be worthy of the church and would be called out of order. Has it done any good for me to tell you about your weaknesses? I pray that you will take a new grip on yourselves. Clear your own consciences. I pray the Lord's blessings on us, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Closing Song: "Let Us .All Press On"
Benediction: Brother Albert Barlow. LJAllred.
5 April 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at Brother Charles Zitting's Home
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, Held at Brother Charles Zitting's Home, 4118 So. 5th east, Salt Lake City, Utah 2:00 p.m. April 5, 1942
Brother Jos. W. Musser presided and conducted.
1st Song: "The Joy and the Song. 1t Prayer: Brother Otto Holm 2nd Song; O My Father" by the Choir, Rulon C. Allred. soloist.
Brother Jos. W. Musser:
This is our 112th Conference (of the Church)and we are pleased to have so many from the outside who have come in, This day celebrates in theory the birthday of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am sure we can enter into the occasion.
Brother William B. Cook
was the first speaker and he expressed his joy in being with the Saints on this occasion from Idaho).
Brother Ayers
(from Toronto, Canada) was the next speaker and he spoke of how happy he was in being here, his impressions of Salt Lake and the wonderful Saints he has met in the group and what a blessed people we are. We should be 'the most grateful people on the face of the earth. The Lord knows what he is doing; He works in a mysterious way, His wonders to perform All glory, praise and honor be to His holy name. We must keep our eye Single to His glory. You are the salt of the earth. etc. He then sang, "Take Courage Saints".
Bro,. Carl Fisher: (from California) My brothers and sisters, I did not come here to speak to you; I don't know that there is much I can add. I am indeed grateful to be with you. When I look into your faces I see souls that have been tried and I have suffered with you. Through trials and suffering we must be pruned. to find if there is that in us which it takes. I bring you greetings from California. I am very grateful to my heavenly father for He has opened the door for me to stay here with you. I or2y pray that I may so live that wherever He wants me I may go there. it I have had to do as some of you have had to do. I know what/is to be torn at the heart strings. I have a prayer in my heart that the Lord will open the way that I may have my children with me. I am thankful for my family here and my home. If we can apply ourselves, the Lord will bless us. We could be a little more kind and helpful to each other . In unity there is strength . Let us try too over look our faults and failing in each other,. Let us not look of perfection. We are striving for perfection, but it is going to take all our lives – that goal which we have set out to reach. We must live all the laws of the Gospel not just some of them. There is much more to come and sacrifices to make before we are going to attain the goal which we have set ourselves to reach. Easter—this is the commemoration of the rising of the Savior –the resurrection. Let us remember that beautiful day. Let us remember that there is hope for everyone in this room and all God's children if we will listen to the sweet voice from above. I want to bear my testimony that the Gospel of Jesus Christ as given to Joseph Smith is true. People may change but God never changes. Let us keep humble and keep faith,. Let us remember that the Lord loves all you people. May the Spirit of the Lord be in our homes, that it may remain with us, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Petty (from Idaho)
spoke next and bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel and asked the Lord's blessings on this people.
Song: "Raise Your Voices to the Lord" by the Choir.
Brother D. W. Jeffs:
Many influences have passed through my mind relative to the Church of Jesus Christ. I am thankful that the Lord has given me the opportunity to continue in His work; given me blessings and understanding . I feel to rejoice in my heart that I am associated with you people, many of whom are better than I am. I will never forget the first time I was called upon to speak before this group,. In that meeting there were two spies for the ward which I belonged to I was very thankful that I had the opportunity that I could feel free in speaking to the brothers and sisters without a handicap. In the class at the ward I used the pamphlet; "Adam Our Father and Our God." I taught those people things about the truth, and gradually they cut my time down and finally told me that I was teaching too much. Finally they cut. me off the church. I felt that I was promoted. I want to refer to the birthday of the Savior. He was born April 6 and not December 25. I am impressed to read a description of the Savior. (He read an article from the Deseret News, Oct. 9, 1927, written to P. Caesar in the 11th century: "There lives at this time etc.") I was thinking how we must reverence our elder Brother. How many give this reverence in word but do little . We as brothers and' sisters have come here to worship before the Lord. How thrilled. I am to think that the Savior healed by a touch. How thrilled I am that through the power of God, through the Priesthood, many people have been healed. Today we have many of them here. This morning I felt the Lord would touch the souls of little infants and heal them as I offered my prayer. ( Many infants in the group have been afflicted with a flu and throat infection which condition seems serious at this time.) I felt this morning what a wonderful thing was that we bear the Priesthood of God in this respect. I want to tell you brothers and sisters as God lives He is going to bless and protect us as we live and abide the laws of God. As Brother Ayers said, we are the pure in heart, but we must and live the laws of God, or we will go into darkness. As sure as God lives, if you depart from light which you have received, you. will go into darkness is as dark as midnight. No they say keep away from .Joseph Musser and his group. I thank the Lord that a testimony and witness in my heart I feel sorry for these people who are clouded in mind. I am thankful that we have the men of God to lead us and we can talk and converse with them. The time is not very far distant when we will be going through the test. Will we prove faithful to. the end? Brotherly love is not just a smile and a handshake--it is the love we show through kindly deeds and charity. Look into the interests of ethers. When we administer the sacrament in one of the homes, that individual was so. thankful. It is what we do and not what we say in encouraging and assisting them. I have a testimony in my heart that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is true. I have a testimony that I know who my heavenly Father is. I have a testimony that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God and is next to Jesus Christ, himself. If we do not prove faithful the Lord will raise up a people that will do His work. God bless you, Amen.
Brother. Charles F. Zitting:
I has a few impressions come to me this morning and this afternoon. When I witnessed the celebration of the Savior's birthday, the thought came to. Me that this is the first time in the world that the Savior's birthday was celebrated at the right time. (He then spoke of Moses as a baby in the bulrushes and the Savior born in a manger; Joseph Smith as a boy 14 and going into. the woods to pray. was the beginning of each of their lives.) We should celebrate the Savior's birthday each day of our lives. We have passed through another year and have seen many things come to. pass. At the rate it is going it will not take long before the beginning of the Millennium. We are new engaged in that great war that is to take place before the Millennium. This war will not end up by signing an armistice like ether wars. It will break down in chaos in every country of the world. This was not a world war until the fight with the Japs. There is another part to. this war:, has still got to. be fought--when the resurrected beings and the multitudes of heaven ;will come in the battle of Armageddon. Then the Millennial reign will come forth in brightness that we cannot imagine. that I wish to prophesy in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Marion Hammon:
Some thoughts have entered my mind in relation to our freedom--how free we are. I have been looking around me to see if I could find out where our freedom is curbed. I cannot find it. While there has been some influences in the south trying to curb the brethren by arrests, etc., yet we still have our freedom. over 100 men met in the south to try to stamp out polygamy. You cannot stamp it out as the Lord tells us in the Doc. & Cov.,(Section 98:6-18,22) you cannot stamp it out. I believe, brothers and sisters, that is just as true now as it was then. It is our duty to uphold the constitution of the land, wicked as the government is. Let us leave the government of the U. S. in God's hands, not ours. God gave it; my advice to you brothers and sisters is to quiet your feelings regard ing the affairs of the nations. Let us do all we can in up building the hearts of men. In spite of the fighting that is going on, I cannot get stirred up in my feelings about the wars of the nations. Let us do what we can to bring peace. May God bless us to stand firm, is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
The world is paganized. When Constantine became a Christian and paganized his people, he adopted the pagan understand and ideas; so today the world is paganized. This Easter celebration is filled with all kinds of nonsense as well as some things that are beautiful. In referring to the birthday of Jesus as some of our speakers have said, this is close to His birthday and resurrection. Today the world does not celebrate it as such. The world has gotten the idea of celebrating with new hats and dresses for the women and bills for the men. The commercialization has come about, but there are people who; It is they who are selling us new hats, gowns, etc., and on Christmas they sell us all the stuff for celebration; on Decoration Day, flowers. It is all done by the great commercial interests of the world. I think it is a great thing to celebrate the birth and death of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. This church has done it. The Catholic church has gotten into the rut. They spend a week trying to have sober faces, etc., and let loose on this day. I feel that we as Latter-day Saints should avoid these extremes. We have got to stand for the truth and the right, not adopt the uses and costumes, etc. of the world. Joseph Smith could not talk to the-people because they were traditionalized in the world of ideas. When he tried to talk to the people about a gospel which came from the Lord Jesus Christ, they mocked him, made fun of him and persecute him. We have to frequently apologize for our words because of the condition of the world. Every sacred thing has been ravished by the present Christian nations. Halloween is a time of destroying property now. It should be Eloheim, the time (October 31) when the great Eloheim said, "Let us go down and build an earth." There was a spirit of building, spirit of light, etc. Lucifer changed the name of Eloheim to Halloween here on earth where people use their time destroying, putting out of existence. One is the spirit of light and the other is the spirit of death. I was thinking in reference to the Counsel in heaven before this earth was inhabited, there they entered into covenant with themselves before they came here; one being called Creator, one Mediator, and the other Witness or Testator. All that was outlined before this earth was formed and made habitable. It was over thousands of years after that time that these three characters met. We saw a presentation of this in Sunday School. When Joseph Smith knelt to pray, Adam..., the Creator, came with Jesus Christ, the Mediator, and presented themselves to Joseph, the Witness, and rend anew that sacred covenant of thousands of years before. We are living in a day where the Lord is bringing to pass those promises He made ever since Adam was upon the earth. The time is coming when the more righteous will cry unto God for deliverance from bondage. Financial bondage? No. We are all in bondage now. There is no one here in this house that is not in financial bondage. But we have got to be delivered from spiritual bondage. Brother Marion said we are free. We will be free when we shackle Satan; and we will never do that until we overcome the world. Until that is done we are in bondage. This people is in bondage; the Christian nations are in bondage; we speak of these nations as Christian nations, yet they are not really Christian. There is no church on the earth that believes all that the Savior taught. There are a few people in the Church who believe in those things. They boast of 900,000 adherence now. There is not 1/50% of that membership that believes fully in the doctrines of the Gospel of the Lord is blasphemy. What was the Savior's great mission on earth? As I see it, the great event that he brought about was the destruction of death. I do not believe anything else has happened since the days of Michael our Father and God that is so important as this death which God has brought about. Death is not so important as far as we are concerned. But the Savior with the keys of Priesthood that he had laid His body down in death and picked it up again in life, and in that second in which that great principal was accomplished, the death of deaths was recorded. The Lord says in resurrection is the redemption of the soul. It means putting the soul, which comprises the body and the spirit, beyond the power of Satan for all time. So Christ was the resurrection--the first fruits of the resurrection, we like Him can be resurrected. Brigham Young said that all those who have lived upon this earth and who would have received the fullness of the Gospel had it been taught to them, although they die, yet they will receive a glorious resurrection; the highest, the fullness of resurrection. He says all others will receive resurrection and they will glory, except the ones who have sinned against the Holy Ghost. We speak of the resurrection morn. We are in it. This dispensation became the resurrection morn when Joseph Smith laid down his body; he came forth in the morning of the resurrection--I want to testify to you to that effect. Many of those prophets have come forth in the first resurrection and they are among us they are watching this people. They are holding their Priesthood councils. One is sent here and one there. John the Revelator was sent among one of the Ten Tribes. Richard W. young, we are told, is among the Ten Tribes teaching them military tactics. Why. Because the Ten Tribes are going to come down here and subdue our enemies for us. We do not have to do it. These things are real; they are watching us, our foolishnesses as well as our seriousness. And they are taking notes concerning our lives and actions. Recently a question was made to me, an officer came to me; he said he cannot understand this thing --why we have to live polygamy. Why is it that we have to live that law? One thing--God has commanded it. God lives it. Assuming that Eve was the only one on earth at the time He was here, He afterwards had Mary, the mother of Jesus. The Bible tells us He will see His seed before He died. If we want to be where Father is we have got to live the same principles he lives. is the greatest price that men will ever pay for exaltation. With all our battle nothing will ever compare with this cross that we are trying to bear, and making a miserable mess of sometimes. But the Lord understands us and our lives because He once was human. But he has given the key when we are big enough to receive it, to overcome death and to be resurrected. Do not receive anything because I say it is true; or Charles. Find out for yourselves if it is true. It does not matter how many people say it is true; find out. Fast and pray and find out for yourself. Live in the spirit of fasting and prayer until you find out if' it is true. Then it will not matter what I do or anyone else does. Sometimes people apostatize because they see me take a cup of coffee. Am. I the essence of Jesus Christ? No, I am human as you are. If you apostatize, you are the loser. Find out for yourself. Then grip hold of them and stay with them through thick and thin. Do not believe what you hear about your neighbor to dissuade you from him. that is your task. is your cross. God bless you, Amen.
Choir: "Hosanna Anthem". Benediction: Brother Herbert Smart. LJallred.
ASK ALFRED OLSCHEWSKI REGARDING HELEN SMITH'S TESTIMONY
Did you attend all the fast meetings in the spring of 1942?
Did you hear all of the following bear their testimony at any fast day meeting in April, 1942.
Myrtle Lloyd, Mabel and Melba Finlayson, Leona Jeffs, Ruth Barlow and Mary Athlene Mills?
How do you know they couldn't have done?
(Because I have never heard Myrtle or Ruth bear their testimony and have tried to get Ruth to sing and she never would take part in front of an audience)
Regarding Cosgrove testimony
Did Mabel or Melba Finlayson ever teach a kindergarten class in meetings?
Refer to Page 80 in Cosgrove testimony.
Did you ever hear Ruth Barlow sing in meeting (Page 80) Have you ever been at the Allred home?
Have you seen a number of women there?
Have you seen Owen's wife Vera;
Marvin's wife, Kathryn, and some of the Dr.'s sisters?
Read statement of Mrs. Cosgrove -Page 84
regarding Athlene and never knowing her as Mary Mills.
Do you know who "Mary Mills is?
12 April 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at Brother Charles F. Zitting's home, 4118 So. 5th East , Salt Lake City, Utah
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, April 12, 1942 Held at Brother Charles F. Zitting's home, 4118 So. 5th East , Salt Lake City, Utah 2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided end conducted.
1st Song: "The Lord Is My Light." Prayer: Brother I. W. Barlow 2nd Song: "0, Ye Mountains High"
Brother Guy Musser:
This is indeed a wonderful privilege of being here and in partaking of the spirit of the Lord and in seeing the countenances shining forth and faces of people filled with truth. Recently I had the privilege of reading a letter written by the President of a vast railroad company and in this letter he proposed that the only way possible for an individual to succeed in a social and financial way was to forget entirely his or her surroundings, to never become free to one's subordinates, to forget all our social relations, religious covenant s and go forward and rise and succeed. Now the man struck the key to succeed along those lines. The same holds true in the Kingdom of God. If we desire to succeed and become true and otherwise students of the Kingdom, to become truly exalted, then we must cast off and forget every encumbrance about us. And as Brother Barlow has said, "The Kingdom of God or nothing." If we could but do this then we would succeed and the light of truth would shine from us as the sun, that men might behold and know we are the true children of God. As I think about you all, the Council too, there is one thing to do--to· give everything, even our lives to the building up of the Kingdom of God; wives, wealth, etc. I rejoice beyond mortal expression that we have had men and women who have had the courage of their convictions to give up all, this plan of everlasting life might be preserved and handed down to us. I rejoice in the beautiful fruit as we see it here today. How glorious this is, and how grateful we should be that the Lo rd has so blessed us that we might meet here today under these conditions. When we think of the destruction that is passing over the face of the earth; men we think of the disease that is about to be blazed forth upon the children of God. Here we are in peaceful surroundings with the spirit of God. We do not look upon these places with plagues with horror because we have been told what would come to pass. We contemplate these 'things in humility; in meekness, trusting that we may call upon the Lord constantly that we might be fit instruments in the hands of' the Lord. I rejoice that we have at our head, men of God who have been proved and tried to the limit. They have been rewarded with keys and blessings. If we adhere to them, we will receive blessings at their hands. I bear you my testimony that these principles are right. I pray that the Lord will bless us with. love, peace end with power that we might direct our families in the ways of the Lord, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Joseph Jessop:
Brothers and sisters, this is quite a surprise to me. Nevertheless, I am happy to be here. I esteem this. a great :privilege and opportunity to meet with you in such favorable circumstances. I bear you my testimony that I still know the Gospel is true. We are a great and blessed people above all on the earth. We are not curtailed in what we may say and what we may do. If we have friends, we may speak our thoughts. If we have not friends, then Satan is ready to pick us up. Hell is popping throughout the world today. Only through prayer and 1iving by the word of prophets are we bound to overcome the evil one. I feel extremely serious, though I act different and manifest my foolishness. This is a day when we need to live near the Lord; get His spirit and keep it. Many of our friends and brethren are being called into the service of the devil. He is dictating at the heads of our country what to do and how to do it. Will we be able to stand? Can we stand the test? I have not had many trials up to date. I have found that I am the greatest problem I have. I don't know what to do with this fellow sometimes. I guess I am a stubborn Israelite. I don't feel the least bit to criticize any nation or people. We of all people upon the face of the earth ought to have sense enough not to criticize any people on the face of the earth. Our boys going into the army every day and they are taught to obey orders. Oh What a splendid thing it would be it I had learned those things. Sometimes I forget to keep my mouth shut. If I offend somebody, then I find I have offended myself. Then I must repent and try to overcome my weaknesses and mend my ways. Only by keeping the commandments of the Lord will I be able to stand. We must live by them every day, not just on Sunday. Every act, every word has its effect. If I indulge myself in foolishnesses it has more effect upon me than on anybody else. I am just a week mortal human subject to the evils of the earth. Brothers and sisters, it behooves us to live close to the Lord and keep His commandment s; to do good to others. It is one of the laws of my life to lend assistance to someone who needs it; the man who is down and cut. We all need encouragement and need to be given something that is uplifting. May God bless us and help us to sense our position; to. Realize that we have a responsibility that it is up to us to exercise the rights and privileges given us to. build up the Kingdom of God, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Rulon T. Jeffs:
I pray the Lord may use me to say something in your behalf. There comes to me something from the Doctrine and Covenants, "All things work together for the good of them that love the Lord." It is a statement that comes strong to me in my life and thoughts It s If we will try our best to. serve the Lord, everything that comes to us is far our good. As I look back over my life for the last years, I can say that everything has been for my good. Although at the time it does not seem so, it is far my good. "Whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth," (Heb.12:6) comes to me from the scriptures I want nothing in this life other than to know and do the will of the Lord. I want no one but those whom the Lord gives to me. I want to. bear my testimony that these brethren who. lead us are those the Lard has appointed. I am sure I would not be here with you today if I was not sure of that. I 'Want to bear you my testimony that I have received a witness that President Barlow is the right man in the right place over us. (He then spoke of his trip down south with him.) I had a testimony on that trip that the spirit of the Lord is with the people down south and in Short Creek. I call upon you to support that movement there. It is my desire to support it with all the means at my command. If we ever have an opportunity to go into the United Order it is there and now. Would you not rather go into that of your own free will than to be whipped into it? The secret of obtaining the spirit of the Lord is by prayer. Prayer is the means that the Lord has given us to get close to Him and then live it. Seek the will of the Lord at all times, not our own. Let us be prudent. It bothers me to see us go here and there doing things in our own way. If we would seek eternal life and do as the Lord wills, we will obtain the ultimate end for which we are looking. God bless you, Amen.
Brother John Buchereit:
I feel the responsibility in standing before you, and I trust that the Lord will direct my thoughts and words that I may have to say. I rejoice in the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. My heart rejoices every time I can come and meet with you--people who believe along the lines which I believe. My heart and feelings are with this people, and. yet sometimes I wonder about the great and many different characteristics of people and how hard it would be to join ourselves together and live like a family. I know personally that I am pretty stubborn to learn the lessons which the Lord want s me to learn yet I feel that in the past he has held me in the hollow of His hand. So I am thankful for the things that have transpired to me up to date. I am thankful that the Gospel was brought to my parent s over .40 years ago. I am thankful that they have had the desire to gather with the children of God. If it was not for that probably I would not be here today. I would be at the age of being forced under the rule of dictatorship to finish my life in destroying people and property. This is a great blessing that has come to me. I was a little too young to be in the last war. The Lord has guided me to this people. I hope and pray that the time will never come when I will have to lift up my arm in the destruction of any fellowmen There is no greater love in any government of the earth. as our government in the U. S. But even at that I feel like I would not be justified to go and fight and I pray that the Lord may spare that to me. I have only one desire in coming here, and that is hard for me to fulfill, and. keep in mind, I have a certain mission to perform and that I must not be afraid to perform that mission. It may require the courage and more courage probably than I have before the effort is over with. But I feel that with the Lord's help and the faith in His work that I will be able to carry on. "It you abide in me even unto death; for it ye abide not in me you are not worthy of' me, etc." There are great trials ahead. "Whosoever lays his life down for my sake shall find it again; and whosoever, etc." I am thankful for the light of the Gospel and truths that I have. I know there will be pressure upon me more in the future than in the past. But it is my desire that I may be able to carry on. I love you all. There is not anyone here that I have in any feeling against. It is my desire to live my life and pray in my mind that I will always be in harmony with the still small voice. I have seen weaknesses in you and these brethren but why should I not look at myself first? Let us never judge, especially we as a group, each other. I know the time will come when !t will be required that greater sacrifices will be expected of this people. (Lec. 6, par. 7, Lectures on Faith) "Let us here observe, that a religion that does not require the sacrifice of all things, never has power sufficient to produce the faith necessary unto life and salvation; etc." It is only through sacrifice that men enjoy eternal life. We will have to go below all things in order to be able to rise above all things. I pray that the day will soon come when we will go in more strength and power "than we have in the past. I rejoice in the increase of our numbers. All the evil spirit s and devils upon the earth cannot stop this people. I pray the Lord to bless us in the name of Jesus Christ, .Amen.
Piano Solo: by Mari e Broadbent.
Brother Marion Hammon:
The three Nephites say that the people to live upon this land of God shall worship the God of the land. I often reflect in my mind when I see certain people called to war, I wonder whether I would rather fight or work. It is said every man should support our country We have Japs, Norwegians, Germans etc., all defending our country. It just does not make sense to me. I had an experience in 1932 in the Utah-Idaho Sugar Company. I needed a job and with a church pull I got a job. I had to work on Sunday. I guess the sugar rots our teeth. I love the flag of this country and they call upon us to defend it, yet they work hell out of us on Sunday. I believe as late as it is if we kept the Sabbath Day holy, the country could save itself. But if they were not working, they would be off joy riding. "Keep the Sabbath Day holy." that is one of the greatest laws given to us. I wonder how we will respond when we live the united order. Are we going to let the weeds grow on Sunday? Yes. I will be glad when we can see the situation is reversed, when the crops flourish in spite of the weeds. I don't know why we cannot have better health. Because we break the commandments of God we have to suffer the consequences. I believe, brothers and sisters, that we are going to be brought to the place where we are going to be tried. Some brethren who say they would rather rebel against the government will have the opportunity, not because they want to, but to see··how they can do of than selves. We are going to find out; we are going to see whether we will serve God or man. We have said mighty plain things from this pulpit. I think we will be called to task to see what we will do. The church sold out. They are not through. I remember a few lies I have told. But this review of lies of the Latter Day Saints are getting bigger. It is only those who have freed themselves from these lies and the turmoil of this country who will stand. (Told a story of how a guide took him down some stairs and saw the different churches; come to the Mormons, and the guide said they think they are the only church on the earth. etc.) People can go fishing on Sunday, if that is what they want to do, but let us be Mormons and not think we are the only ones here. Let us not be ashamed of the covenant s taken upon our lips. Let us keep the name of Jesus as clean as we can. Let us be charitable with our brethren and mind our own business. Let us be more modest. If we want to draw in our horns, lets learn to mind our own business. I pray that I can magnify the name of the Lord an 'the earth. When I leave this life I want to be able to leave with clean skirts. I want to be an honor to the name of Jesus Christ. I bear my testimony that God lives and those that don't know it will feel it, in the name or Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
We have had enough today, if we are able to live up to the admonishing given by all the speakers and the singing we would have enough. to save and exalt us in the celestial kingdom. I realize the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. My experience in materiel affairs is that there is a very small percent that we hear or read that we are able to put into actual practice. You see knowledge burn at 10% efficiency. All the rest of' it goes up the chimney and is wasted. I think: that allows to some extent for the portion of the good that we hear that we are able to put in practice. The Lord said it took 365 years to perfect the people who were ready for translation. I made this reflection that we are working faster and accomplishing in less time the things that Enoch and his people accomplished. We spend a great deal of our time on little matters. pertaining to tea and coffee, etc.; we have not yet evolved beyond those foolish frivolities that are keeping us down. We are still gossiping and tell little stories about each other; we still want to hear something that concerns someone else. We are still jealous in our feelings of the other fellow. It is very difficult for us to subdue that spirit of jealousy that comes from the prince of darkness. We are told that God is a jealous God; is true is we get the true meaning: He is zealous in His desire to exalt us. There is not one person who has come to the earth since Adam that God would not want to exalt in the highest kingdom and is jealous of His desire that His children make good. The Priesthood Council is a zealous council; we desire with all our hearts that all listen to our teachings and make good. Nothing would please me more, and I know it is true of Brother Barlow and the others, to see every person in this house today thriving and basking in the presence of the Eternal Father:. We were in His presence once and lived with Him. We were nurtured on His knee--our Father in Heaven. We were as familiar with Him at that time as we are with our earthly father now. Now the task is to get back into His presence, and go on living in that celestial kingdom where there is no disease, no death no lying, no evil. Evil cannot live in the presence of Father and it is our privilege to get back into His presence, if we will; and the way to get back there is to observe these laws and commandments that have been mentioned today. Of course I do not profess to have made the grade. Brother Barlow and I have been in this work a large number or years, speaking of our earthly career. We have been living celestial marriage for nearly one half century. Have we made the grade? No. I have heard President Grant say he, is a prophet , but most people will not believe it. I think we are publishing in the Truth this next issue of a jury who sat in Provo. .A. man was being tried for theft. The matter was presented to the jury and they went out and come back with a verdict of "not guilty". The judge said, "Why?" The foreman. said he is such a gall darn liar that we don't believe him. When we say we are prophets, people think we are liars. Any man who holds that priesthood and magnifies it is a prophet. When we are baptized with water and then with the Holy Ghost we are given the spirit of prophecy. If you magnify your calling in the church, you are a prophet. If you are called by the Lord to be a prophet then you are authorized to act in that capacity. If you are called to be an elect woman it does not mean you are an elect woman unti1 you make good.--you are a prophetess. Miriam was a prophetess, the sister of Moses, but she got off and criticized Moses and wanted to set him right; then she got leprosy. should be a lesson to us. The woman of vender was a prophetess. She was the wife of Samuel the prophet. She had sense enough not to try to rule her husband. No woman has a right to direct her husband it he holds the Priesthood of Almighty God. I am. quoting the words of Wilford Woodruff, ideal of Joseph; it is the principle of life and salvation that no man who permits his wife to lead. him is worthy to be saved in the Kingdom of God. I do not believe there is any good woman who does not want to be lead by her husband. Sometimes women get ambitious, as they have gotten in this day, and they have issued the ultimatum of the church and they have had the garments changed. Those kind. of women will go to hell unless they repent. .Any man or woman who received the garments of the Holy Priesthood upon their person with the instructions that come from the Lord and then go out and change and mutilate them, abandon them, stop wearing them, will be damned unless they repent. is my testimony. Know that many have done that in ignorance. There is a way of overcoming that difficulty. People who do not overcome it; those who have had the privilege of' going through the temple, they are not qualified, they are not, or will not be prophetesses, Eves, etc., but they will be failures. So will the men. They will not become one of His heirs. is my testimony to you, brothers and sisters. If we get back to the first principles, the Lord will not let this war hurt us; He that will keep my laws and commandments, I will fight their battles for them." As I quoted the other day from the Proverbs of Solomon, "But whoso harkeneth unto me, shall dwell safely and shall be quiet. from tear of evil. (Prov. 1:33) The nations of the earth are in a quiver, but if they would harken unto God, they would not be in the situation that "they are in now. Keep God's laws and commandments and he will fight our battles. May God bless us, I ask in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
My brothers and sisters, I have been greatly edified and pleased with the remarks that have been made. Only I thought Joseph should have gone further in that passage. The Lord says, "Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; but ye have set at naught all my counsel, and would have none of my reproof; I also will laugh at your calamity: I will mock when your fear cometh etc." (Provo 1:24-33) How many of us does that hit'? "Because we have called unto you and you have refused; we hear this every day. What does it do to us? Some few it is teaching; some few it is going over their heads. In other words, it teaches them while they are hearing, but. then they go home, they forget all about it. The time is at 'hand; it is not far off. The time is, here when we have got to keep the commandments of God or take the consequences. These things have been taught to us all since we were children. but we have not heeded. President Kimball said that if' we did not keep the commandments of God " our friend s 'Would weep seeing the distress that we are in. President Jedediah M. Grant preached himself' right into the grave trying to reform this people,--one of the greatest orators and speakers in the church. I want to tell you a little instance in his life; He was called to debate in a district of the church. President Grant asked who was president of that stake, and the president answered that he -was. He then asked who was head of the Church and answered that it is Jesus Christ. The people down south (Utah) send their love. They are very humble. One thing helps them is that they have not picture shows and such to go to. They are not running about every night. I was greatly taken up with their lessens and the work they are doing. We have an old house that we have taken the partition out of and have made a very fine meeting house. It is their own The Priesthood owns the ground and the home. They have from 50 to 60 and sometimes 75 children in their Sunday School. I ask the Lord's blessings upon you all and remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy. If ever there was a law of God broken, it is that law among the Latter Day Saints. God bless you, Amen .
Closing Song: "Utah We Love Thee". Benediction: Brother Ed. Christensen. LJAllred.
26 April 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at Brother Lyman Jessop's, 4664 So. Highland Dr. Salt Lake City, Utah
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting Held at Brother Lyman Jessop's, 4664 So. Highland Dr. Salt Lake City, Utah, April 26, 1942 --2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided.
Brother Joseph W. Musser conducted.
1st Song: "Praise to the Man. n Opening Prayer; Brother /:./ Hardman -2nd'5ong: "Earth With Her Ten Thousand Flowers.
Brother Musser:
In the splendid prayer the Lord was asked to inspire the speakers and I think it is equally important that the ears of the hearers be blessed that we might all be benefitted today. I think what we need today is to be given strength for another season, the Lord will give it to us if we are in the right mind; if our faith is sufficiently strong.
Brother Alfred Olschewski:
was the first speaker and spoke of how he had had public speaking training, but then when he is called on as he is today he cannot think of what to say; we must let the Lord direct our words. He said in all the time he has been here in Zion he has heard the Church ask for more knowledge, more wisdom, great things. A testimony is one thing to have, yet to attain it what must we do? Just as soon as we acknowledge that all things belong to the Lord and convince the Lord that our heart is open for , He will give us that testimony. I will receive the knowledge that others among us have when I show the Lord I am ready for that testimony. The Lord doesn't give us anything for nothing. This whole life is based so that we must pay for what we are getting, but the Lord is merciful and gives us more than we ask for. Since the day I came here I have tried to live the Gospel and be one with you. He then spoke of how he had been called to teach some of the children and he hoped he would never teach them false doctrine; when we are seeking the truth Satan tries to destroy us before we accept it.
Sister. Ann Boss:
was the next speaker and she spoke of how we must have charity and live all the Gospel as revealed. she loves the Gospel and it is her life and light and pathway. She wants to go back to her Father in Heaven, and stand pure in His sight. (In England where she accepted the Gospel she stood before mobs outside their home who were waiting to destroy those who embraced the Gospel and they were. protected by their Father in Heaven.) She then bore her testimony that the Gospel is true and that the more light we pray for the more the Lord gives us, if we are worthy_
Sister Josephine Johnson
was next called on and she bore her testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel and thanked God for His blessings to her.
Brother Theodore Wiedow:
He said he hadn't yet reached a full testimony of the truthfulness of the fullness of the Gospel but that the Lord had given him a guiding light--his wife--and she is giving him what she knows to be the truth. "The last time I was here I saw a picture that has not left my mind. I was invited to a wedding reception this night and before the wedding party began I had an opportunity to look around the home and see the living conditions existing there. If there is anything pure in the Gospel of Jesus Christ, than that picture as lived in that home, then I don't know what it is, because it was a beautiful picture,--a little child in a crib and pure little souls there. I don't know much about the Gospel, but I believe I am right--the Lord wants us to bring these spirits into the world and bring them up righteously. There is no greater blessing to be given to mankind than bringing a spirit into the world through a clean righteous body." (He then told a story of a little girl whose father drank, in poem form.) "Suffer little Children to come unto me, for such is the Kingdom of Heaven." "Unless we become as little children, we cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Song: "Battle Hymn of the Republic".
Brother Lyman Jessop:
We are seeking greater light, information and knowledge. We are weak, frail mortals and we are subject to many weaknesses. These weaknesses are not sins, but it is difficult to overcome them. The channel of life is like a rut made in wet ground. It is like trying to cross railroad crossings. You might try to get out of those ruts, but it is hard. We plead to the Almighty to give us power to get out of the bad habits of life and channels that keep us down. A habit is like we have on a rope that when it becomes so strong, no power of our own can break it. You may have to naw it off thread by thread until it comes off. We are surrounded by influences that make us wonder. We are in a country and conditions that have brought gloom. More and more we realize the intensity of war. We are wondering what to do. Now this' people have a promise that if they live the laws of God they would continue to flourish. The Gospel is wonderful--it is like a great tree in the middle of the desert. The Constitution is an inspired document. It is more than what the people of the nation consider it. The colors of the flag are the colors of the Kingdom of God. I wonder how much we can stand; how much letting alone we can stand. Are you made of such metal that you will not rust~ Are you covered with dust or rust' ?l Are you made of such stainless steel that you will not rust? How many times must we go through the fiery furnace? Can we stand the abuses of our neighbors and remain sweet? Jos. Smith said, "A firm and strong rebuke will bring a good man forward to the best in him." If rebuke comes, are we in a strong enough state of mind that we can stand it ? If I go wrong I want the spirit of the Almighty to rebuke me. I would like to live so close to the Lord that I would feel the spirit and feel its influences Do you imagine that the spirit of the Lord can be fathered in such amounts that it would not require much effort on your part to receive it? The difference between success and failure is finer than a finest blade of a razor. (He then welcomes us in his home.) May the Lord help us to see our own condition and understand it, and reach a condition to know for ourselves assuredly that it is, I pray in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ" Amen
Brother John Y. Barlow:
Question: Who is the One Mighty and Strong? Answer: In the first place I will say just this much (He then told of how he went to sea John Woolley and the first thing he said to him was, "Who is the One Mighty and Strong" and a few days later a messenger came to him about it.) Read Section. 90 of the Doc. 3: Cov., "Thus saith the Lord, etc." And read Section 124. Whenever a revelation comes to us it will come through Joseph Smith. Section 85:7, And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand, clothed with light for a covering, etc." Section 101: 43-62, "And now I will show unto you a parable", etc. Now my brothers and sisters, if we can find out who that servant is, we have the one Mighty and Strong. Now read Section 103:21 and it will tell you who that servant is--Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith is the one who is going to handle this thing. He set these men apart who are here now. Joseph set the ones apart in the early days. He is the head. He is the one who is coming back here and set things in order. He is going to come and pave the way for Jesus Christ. I want to tell you, we are trying to prepare men to be ready when that time comes. How many have we got ready? I am doubtful. No wonder we feel blue and bad. Brigham Young said, "Why did the prophets weep?" Because they had preached and preached to the people and they did not take heed of it. Let it teach everyone of us. Everyone needs to repent and seek God. If we don't we are going to get what the others are getting. He is going to whip us into line. Zion is not going to be removed out of her place. Is God going to improve Zion? Yes. If we get in the way, we will be pushed out of the road. God bless you, Amen.
Brother Marion Hammon:
Joseph asked me how I feel about it. I think that is right and nothing else needs to be said. It is good to meet with you. We had a splendid Sunday School this morning. Our feelings are becoming subdued. I can see a great improvement in our dispositions. Let the words of those leading us be right. can endorse what Brother John said 100%. In the spring of the year we put the animals through the vat to destroy the ticks. We are going to have the ticks removed from us. The day of repenting is past. We can repent but how long will it take to unthread the rope? The time is short. Brother John's words are the words of God to this people. If we get in the way of the Kingdom of God, we will either be crushed or go on or be pushed out of the way. The Kingdom has been organized these many years. Many things will be brought to light. I pray God to bless us, and He will bless us if we let Him, Amen.
Brother Joseph Musser:
"Out of the mouths of two or three witnesses shall be established." I am one of the witnesses today to testify to the remarks of Brother John. Joseph Smith is the One Mighty and Strong. It is Joseph Smith who will set the house of God in order. Joseph has started the setting of the house in order He is not far away from us today. When those five men were set apart in September 1886 it was related he placed his hands upon their heads and ordained them to the apostleship and giving them the Priesthood of God and told them to see to it that a year would never occur when children would not be born under that holy covenant, (celestial marriage) and that principal with all other principles of the Gospel were kept alive. Others have been set apart and others are receiving revelations of the Lord pertaining to those things. I know the Lord God Almighty is watching us and that the Priesthood on the other side is watching us, and they are instructing us. I know that as Brother John said, if we were seasoned and tempered these things would have been started long before this. I remember when Brother Lorin tried to form the Sanhedrin and he could not find 29 men who were seasoned, and therefore it was not done. Joseph prepared 110 years ago to redeem Zion and had he been able to find sufficient numbers to stand and be faithful and quit their grumbling and backbiting, etc Zion could have been redeemed at that time. But the Lord knew they would not do it then and He knew they would have to come here and grow and increase like these mighty hills. There are men in this house today and men in our Sunday School this morning who will be as great and mighty as these everlasting hills if they accept these greater responsibilities that are to be placed on them shortly. Let us hear the words of John ,today and accept them as the word of the Lord. The One Mighty and strong is Joseph Smith Unless you accept this you will go to hell! God bless you, Amen.
Closing Song: "Let Us All Press On" Benediction: Brother D. W. Jeffs. LJAllred.
10 May 1942
Sunday afternoon meeting. Held at Brother Charles F. Zitting's home
Minutes Sunday afternoon meeting – May 10, 1942 Held at Brother Charles F. Zitting's home. 4118 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah. At 2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided.
Brother Leroy Johnson conducted.
First Song: "Star Spangled Banner" Prayer; Brother Russell Kunz. Second Song: "The Lord is My Shepherd"
Bro Fred Morrison: I have been in the mission field but I never shook as bad as I am shaking now. It reminds me of my first experience speaking in Sweden. I am grateful for the privilege of being with you. I know I must depend on the Lord in order to say something . Whenever I try to tell anybody anything of own knowledge it is not anything good to listen to. I have been thinking a lot lately of the position that we as a people occupy on the earth. We should be the most perfect people on the earth: We should abide by every principle that proceedeth from the mouth of the Father. We often hear people excusing themselves and trying to justify themselves in transgressing against the laws of God without any real foundation for their excuse. There is one thing if there is a revelation form God, I don't give two hoots in Hades what anyone else says against it , it is still a revelation. For example, the Word of Wisdom: that revelation within itself incorporates everything that pertains to the temporal salvation of man, and also our spiritual advancement. It will bring us closer to the things of heaven. We cannot excuse ourselves in not living it properly. I wish to goodness that I could live according to the things of heaven. I like a statement that Bro Rulon Allred made that if there is anything worse than committing the sin it is justifying ourselves in it. I wish we could seek our Heavenly Father in all things. There are blessings predicted upon the things that we are obedient to. (Quoted from Brigham Young ---"Now those men and those women who ***** becoming Gods ) I would like to read from Jeremiah 17:5-8 "This saith the Lord: Cursed be the man that trusteth in man and maketh flesh his arm: and the man whose heart departeth from the Lord. For he shall be like the heath in the desert and shall not see when good cometh: but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited. Blessed is the man. trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the Lord is. For be shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful .in the year of drought, neither shall cease far. yielding fruit." Brothers and sisters, I have realized recently the necessity of seeking a testimony from the Lard. I hope and :pray that the spirit of the Lord will be with us throughout the remainder of this day. May we always do right and seek after the things the Lord would have us seek and do, is my prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, . Amen.
Solo: by young Gary Anderson : " that Wonderful Mother of Mine"
Brother Rulon C Allred:
Through the goodness of the Lord we have a wonderful pamphlet ,which has been published for several years, the Truth Magazine Most of the statements in them have been heard before, but are brought forth by men of God again who are not afraid to sacrifice their personal desires and the praises of the world to build up the Kingdom of God. that kingdom is going to be established regardless of the opposition of all men. The Savior, when He came among the children of men came among the Jews who at that time had been passing through persecutions and hardships for many years that they might be a pure people for the benefit of the rest of the world, and that the y might bring forth God' s word for the salvation of men. Notwithstanding these things, they were at the time of the Savior's coming the most wicked people on the face of the earth. His powers and goodness had been made manifest to the world thru them, but so great was their wickedness he said unto them: Woe unto you, Scribes: and Pharisees, hypocrites, ye are as whitened sepulchers; outwardly ye are beautiful to behold, but inwardly ye are dead men's bones. Ye send out teachers as proselytes to the whole world, and when ye have gathered converts you make them more the child of hell than ye are." As it was in the days of Christ, so is it in our day. The 27th and 28th Chapters of II Nephi are being fulfilled. This nation is lifted up in the pride of its heart above all other nations of' the earth; and s:;) are we as a people. ",I say we are the best people on the earth. It reminds me of the words of Jeremiah, ,Who among men are more righteous than they whom I have called; and who is more .self-righteous than my servant?" Self-righteousness is one of the greatest stumbling blocks in the world. just as soon as we say to ourselves that we are doing all right, then we can depend on our down fall. When we become convinced that we are all right, we may rest assured there is something radically wrong with us. Truly, God is gathering us as a people out of the church. so he may establish us as a foundation for the nucleus of the Millennium. We are the nucleus on which Gal will establish Zion, but unless we repent in humility, then God will not use us. Some have criticized brethren for standing up before this people and calling them to repentance, but any man who holds and magnifies the Priesthood of God will be expected. to call the people to repentance and draw their attention their imperfections, if he speaks under the inspiration of the power of God; such is his calling. It reminds me of the words of the Prophet, who said: "The world is ripening in iniquity; wars and desolation await this generation and if they do not repent, they will be destroyed. Realizing this, will I hesitate to call them to repentance? Notwithstanding my weakness I shall raise my voice crying unto them, 'Repent, for the hour of God's judgment is at hand.' I wish them nothing worse than that they repent and be saved and turn unto God. Brigham Young said, would rather stand forth and be torn apart piece by piece, or be cut up joint by joint than to be afraid to call this people to repentance. If I must stand and. flatter this people, I do not want to occupy this position. I see my own weaknesses and imperfection s and I wonder how God can use me. I pray God I may overcome them. It is not what I say that convinces the world of the truth, but what I do. "Out of the abundance e of the heart the mouth speaketh" but what a man doe s, he is. Remember, the best sermon ever preached was not by precept, but by living. I would far rather see a sermon preached in the life of an individual than to hear it from his lips. Notwithstanding my imperfections, I am going to read this article (Truth, Vol. 7, May, 1942, No. 12). I can stand up here and preach all day and unless I do what I preach I 'will never get anywhere. The Savior said, "This is the way; walk ye in it". He was the great example . The church was given to us with it apostles, prophets, teachers, evangelists, etc., for the perfecting of the Saints and the work in the ministry until we all come to the likeness and full stature of Christ. He was an example in all things, and if we are like Him our lives will be exemplary to the world in all things. If we possess vices and imperfections and manifest them to the world, we are not magnifying our priesthood and calling. The Savior said, "He who transgresses the least of my commandments is guilty of them all." No matter what I preach, if I do not live according to my precepts, I am like the tinkling of brass and the sounding of symbols my words are. A man who professes to be a Servant of God and yet willfully breaks the commandment s which He teaches is undoubtedly a servant of the Devil, for he whom we obey, his servants we are. There is no hypocrisy as great as that of those who profess by their teachings to be servants of God, and then willfully break His commandment s and justify themselves in it. If we will we can. do the will of the Lord No people ever lived who, lived in a more glorious age than you and I now l do. The prophet s of God in past dispensation s saw' in vision our day and wished that they might live in our day. We are here in this glorious dispensation, and what are we doing with it? Some of us try to do right on Sunday particularly; others of us make an effort to serve the Lord every day of the week. Still others are going down the stream of life seeking a good time. It reminds me of the statement of Paul, who said "They shall ever be learning, but never come to the knowledge of the truth-seekers of pleasure more than lovers of God" .The commandments of God are big things. Most of us try to keep them and do pretty well. The lesser Priesthood was given to us that angels might minister unto us. How many of us have the ministering of angels? This Priesthood entitles us to the ministering of the ordinances of the Gospel and the gifts of the Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost bring:: to our remembrance past things and reveals the will of God concerning our lives; but how many of us walk by the guidance of this spirit? The higher Priesthood was revealed that men night see the face of God and still live in the flesh upon the earth. How far are we from it? Not perhaps because we do not pay our tithes and offerings. keep the Sabbath Day holy, go to the temple and receive our endowments or even be sealed in marriage for eternity; but because of the little things. All of the vices that you am I have are naturally little things, but because of the little things we are kept from having the ministering of angels and seeing the face of God. (He then read from the Truth, Vol. 7, pg. 272, Innocent Vices) " Innocent vices--there are none. There are wrongs which persons may commit against themselves, etc. . . . . . . . . eternal and Divine." Unless we can let our light so shine that men may see it and glorify our Father in Heaven, we are not magnifying our Priesthood nor assuming our responsibilities so we may have just claim. to the blessings of God. (Then he read again continuing the article) "Example is a great educator *****in doing her duty to her children" I have seen men who have departed so far from the light of God that their wives and daughters have left then. and eventually have gone to houses of prostitution, and these men have turned from their testimonies of the truth and become vile and 'wicked, gone into darkness and never again been known among the people of God, and have gone to hell. And I could give a few names. (Read again from the article) "To thus antagonize father and mother, **** for sin lieth at his door". Unless we set our' lives to the line and the plummet, we will fall short of the glories of God. (D. & C., Sec. 130:20) "There is a law irrevocably decreed in heavens before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated--And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated." We sow and we reap, and we shall reap as we sow. If we do that which is evil, we shall be numbered with the damned. If '!He do that which is good, we shall receive the reward of the righteous. (Read again from the article) "To those who are believers in the revelations of God ***** resulted in disobedience and punishment." You may read the rest of the article yourselves. One more thing—Brigham Young said, "This law was revealed unto this people that God might send through them those chosen spirits reserved to come forth in this dispensation so that they might not be obliged to came in to the families of the wicked but might be ,Privileged to be born under the covenant in the Priesthood that God might raise them up to be a peculiar people with whom He could walk and talk. The Lord gave this Celestial law that -the Saint s might live in righteousness and the family order, exist in the eternal worlds" Brigham Young also said, "Do to the weaknesses of men, more men would be damned by the law than would be saved and exalted. If I have a statement from another prophet uttered in my office within the last week utterance was from the lips of this man, John Y. Barlow. He said, "Rulon, nine out of every ten men that are living this law today are going to be damned by it unless they repent, Brothers and Sisters, this is my message to you. God bless you, .Amen
Vocal Solo: Gary .Anderson "Teach :role to Pray"
Brother Lawrence Stubbs:
The song that was just rendered impressed me, Brothers and sisters. It was the voice of the little Child; and the song "Little Mother of Mine" Today is Mather' s Day and commemorated as such. I think of my mother; she left us children when we very young. I did not know what it was to have one for a good many years. .And now I have become acquainted with mothers bearing the souls of men and wending their way through life and they are giving to us unseen spirits, Brother Rulon referred to, the right to come here. What for? To have life, they might live to accomplish what? To build up the Kingdom of God in all the world and to become one with the Father and the Son. This is their work and their glory, to bring to pass the immortality of :t: men. They can't do it without these choice spirits. The people of the world have the opposite course. They are blind and they have been chained down and cannot enjoy the full freedom that you and I can enjoy. If we fail we will be numbered with them. "There is nothing more beautiful than a little child and a righteous, Mother and Father. I am grateful to be here with you today. I am grateful for the revelations of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am grateful for men like these that sit here (the Council). I have been with one of them a great deal lately. I testify to you brothers and sisters to you who are faithful in keeping the laws and commandments bearing these souls, the Lord will bless you in the future. The powers of hell are being raged against us more so now and will be more in the future. If we live right we will be able to stand. I pray that God will be with us that we will 'be inspired by Him to listen to the living oracles who have the bread of life to feed us with. We only get what we live for, no more and no less. If' we could only see the vision ahead, we would prepare ourselves more rapidly than we are. we would not pend our time building up the world, but we would spend our time and energy in building up the Kingdom of God on the earth. I love the truth. I know it is the only thing that will exalt us. Let us build upon a more on solid rock. we must get the spirit of God and keep it, as Brother Barlow has told us. May God bless you, I humbly pray, in the name of Jesus Christ, .Amen.
Choir: "Hosanna Anthem: and congregation "The Spirit of God Like a Fire is Burning."
Brother John Y. Barlow: :
My brothers and sisters, this has indeed been a pleasure to me today. A rich portion of the Holy Spirit of God has been here., and I want to tell you the. angels have been here. They have been listening to what has been said. We were told in the scriptures that those who would serve God would meet often together and the book of remembrance would be kept and when the Lord came those who kept His commandments would be His people and would be received. We are working and living at a time when the Lord is preparing a people; getting man ready for a big event that is coming. It is not going to be long. Suppose the Prophet should come back here to set His house in order. What is it? is the people. When he doe s and we are not prepared, we will be pushed aside. For as I told you before, the Kingdom of God is going on. I was well pleased to have Brother Rulon take up the piece in Truth. I don't care what one you back up, the Truth cannot be denied. The authorities say they cannot answer them. It is the truth as revealed by the Prophet Joseph. It will be handed down. As God has said, the Priesthood would never be taken from the earth again, and it will stay here. I want to leave my blessings with you today. I want you to find out for yourselves. and know whether these things we have been telling are true. The Prophet said, "Give me 12 men who will live the laws of God and I can stand against the world. I wish we could find 12 men of that kind today. May Go d bless you and help us to learn these things and study hard. Above all, do not forget to pray. Find out for yourselves. I ask this in the name of Jesus Christ, .Amen.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
Every time I hear that song, (the Hosanna Anthem) I wish we had it on the record just as it was sung today. It is on the record, I am sure of that Lorin Woolley told us that in the meeting that was held at his father's home September 27, 1886 (the 8-hour meeting when President Taylor instructed the brethren and at times stood above the floor in mid air) that the angels of Heaven sang several songs. One of them was the birth of the Chris t; the. other was the birth of the Prophet, and another was "The seer, The seer". Before the meeting closed, he said all in the heard it. And if I am not mistaken, this choir today had some others singing with them. We appreciate the talent the Lord has given us. We appreciate Sister Athlene Allred who is directing this choir, and also her aids. And while I mention that I feel to mention Sister. Leona Allred here who is the recorder for the Priesthood group. She comes here every meeting and takes down the remarks that are made. It is a very hard job. I have tried it for I was asked to take minutes in the tabernacle, and I was glad not to be called on again. .And to transcribe them. on the typewriter is another hard job. She come with a stack of papers the other day and gave them to me. We don't see or hear of them but they are sermons that people cannot lie about us. These minutes are records of proof. I appreciate these brethren who are allowing us to have their homes for use. I saw' our dear Sister Zitting working like a Trojan getting the house ready for the meeting. After the meeting things have to be put away. We appreciate these things but we don't take note of them often enough. I was called upon the other evening to get the chairs for the Tuesday night meeting. I don't want that job all the time, but I was glad to get it once so I know what a hard job it is. I like that first song we sang, "The Star-Spangled Banner". We sometimes feel in our souls the that the government has not treated the church right, but that song is true. When we see that flag flying over the Kingdom of God, it will be wonderful. It is the flag of the Kingdom of God; it is the banner and symbol that will represent the Kingdom of God and there will be stars on that banner representing every nation in the world at sometime. "Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must, "when our cause it is just, and this be our motto: 'In God is our Trust!". And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave, O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave." God gave us this nation in 1776. A little bunch of people on the eastern coast were pitted against the great empire of Britain. They had no chance at all except that the Lord was 'with them. Washington, a man of God, was their leader. Congress passed a resolution and they adopted a salary schedule of $600 a month for the Commander-in-Chief. A Commander Chief today receives a salary of ,$75,OOO a year instead of $7,200. When Washington was elected by unanimous vote, in his acceptance speech he said he was fairly well to do and would keep an accurate account of his expenses and was all that he expected the government to pay him. was the kind of man who formed the nucleus of the beginning of this nation; also Jefferson and .Adams. Now God gave this nation to our forefathers and they were the best men, I assume, on the earth at that time. Then the war of 1812 came up and God still gave them the victory; and every once in a while controversies came up try to break down our moral.. Then hat e came, but on even occasion victory come to our people. Then they martyred the Prophet they murdered their God, the third God in the trinity. Then the next conflict that came up was that rebellion that come between the North and South, and that brought misery in every home. It all but broke up the nation, but the Lord gave them another chance and we are still alive. But the nation has not yet accepted the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Now the Lord says not only this nation, but all the nations will be subdued and come under the great leadership of the Kingdom of God. And the work is going on to accomplish this great end. We still will have this nation and the flag that waves over it. But God has set the bounds to this country and He says war will be poured out upon all nations when we pour something, we do not sprinkle it. that is what is being done now. I was reminding my brethren this morning of a prophecy that Lorin Wooly made in 1932; he said if the U. S. doe s not fulfill its contract with the Philippines it will be taken. by the Japs to the great embarrassment of this nation. Today the Japs have taken the Philippines; they have control over the entire island country. To the great embarrassment of this nation, it is the first time that it has been defeated in war. Up to the present time Japan has won the war against the U. S. and a great part of the world. But the Lord blessed us as long as we were faithful; as long as we sustained this great emblem that was brought to us. He blessed the nation; we have the greatest resources in the world today; we have .the best climate of any nation. Since we have prostituted the rights of individuals, the Lord has withdrawn from the nation. Our boys have been drawn into the war, but if they remain faithful they will be brought back. I am glad to have heard the remarks about Mothers Day; but every day is Mothers Day. I wish mother would be praised every day instead of once a year. We have a day reserved for thanking the Lord, but We should thank Him every day. I wouldn't any more think of starting an article for the Truth than I would starting on a journey without provisions. I wouldn't think of proof-reading the Truth without asking the Lord to help me. Brother Boss goes over it and sometimes my wife goes over it and still we cannot always find all the errors. I love the mothers. I love women who have the courage of going forth to perform the duties of motherhood. I despise men and women who have not the courage to perform that which they were created. for: Multiply and replenish the earth. When I see a baby dangling on a mother's breast, I feel to praise her. It is the biggest thing that ever happened to women. Those who are living. the fullness of the celestial covenant, they are all mothers, whether they have children or not. Each of them enter into that covenant of motherhood; each of them are faithful to the great privilege of life and salvation and if one of them be deprived of bringing forth their own children, in their right they are still mothers and the time will come when they will have millions of children, Eternity is a long time. God has the ways and purposes. If you keep your bodies prepared for the purpose of the Lord, be faithful and true, being pure and virtuous, noble and courageous, God will take care of you. God bless you my dear mothers and wives; God bless you and encourage you,--fill you hearts with peace and love .And God bless you husbands and fathers, you who are almost shedding blood (if I can use the term; I never like to use it only as pertaining to the Savior) to keep up your obligations. But I know what some of you brethren are going through. Forty years has taught me something of the hell that you men are going through, and I think I know something about the Hell that will come to those who are not making the effort and are rejecting the privilege. God bless you is my prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Closing song: True to the Faith Benediction: Brother Guy Musser. L Allred
24 May 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. at Brother Charles Zitting's home, 4118 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City Utah
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, held May 24, 1942 at Brother Charles Zitting's home, 4118 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City Utah, 2:00 p.m.
Brother Joseph Musser presided and conducted.
1st Song: "The Joyful Song" Prayer: Brother Fritz Kenpfe 2nd song: by the Choir, "Softly Beams the Sacred Dawning"
Brother Joseph W Musser:
We are living in a day, my brothers and sisters, when from the beginning of the dispensation Joseph was appointed at the head; when strange spirits are prevailing. Joseph himself had to fight against them. He found men and women with revelations and with peep stones. He had that one great thing to fight. The order of heaven had been revealed. and it is now when, when we understand. But we have gone on a detour. Unless we are sticking very closely to the plan of the Lord, We are inclined to go on a brief detour until we get entirely away from the Gospel. the Lord has said that it is a straight and narrow path that leadeth to lives eternal and few there are that find it. We don't want to criticize the Church, but it has gone off since that terrible step of 1890 in denouncing the higher step of the Gospel And now the Council feels very serious about the detour that has been manifest. There are some who were with us ten years ago that have gone astray. In the early days the Prophet wrote an article on "trying the spirits" He gave a recipe that we might know the spirits and be guided by them. It is in the History of the Church and also in the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith. We have felt impressed to ask Brother Rulon Allred to review this article , not only to read that part that he thinks he should, but also comment on it and that we drink in this article by the prophet
Brother R. C. Al1red:
Brothers and sisters I feel Very humble in occupying this position today I realize my weaknesses and inabilities, and I thank God form the bottom of my heart that the Council felt that I could be used in this capacity: and if as an individual there is some responsibility in that respect upon me, I think my shoulders are with the help of God broad enough to take it. It speaks broadly: the church needs it, and we are increasingly in need of it. Many of the Saints were being lead astray, and there were some women who were receiving so many revelations that the Prophet felt the need of it. It is fitting that there is need of it today in our group. We as human beings cannot profit by the past: and it is evident that we as individuals must go down to hell instead of following the counsels of the Priesthood. (He then read from Vol. 1,Hiistory of the Church, p. 571) "Recent occurrences that transpired around us, etc. " (He commented and cited examples of men going astray and being tc. empted also women. Such were James Strang, David Witmer, Sec 28 of the D. & C , women at the time of the Prophet.
Song : "Redeemer of Israel"
Bro Charles Zitting: My Brothers and Sisters, I trust that I will have an interest in your faith and prayers that I will be able to say a say words that will be at least a benefit to a. few of you. I feel humble in standing before you today_ I never was very good as a talker and I worse at singing. I have lot on my mind, but I feel like the poet that said "Oh, would that I could utter words that ***" etc. I get some consolation in the fact that it is not always the best speaker, best singer or best performer that is really trying to follow after the words of God. There is a measuring stick that you can put on everyone and it always works that stick is, "The Golden Rule, is he living it is he walking in the footsteps of the Savior" I would rather see a sermon lived any day than preached. I have seen many wedges driven into the work of God by the Devil; not only a few but many. that is a testimony to me, brothers and sisters, this is the work of God. Are those wedges going to hurt us; divide us? If they do, then that s all we are worth. But I don't believe those wedges are going to hurt us; I believe we are going to see our mistakes. The prophet says that because a man errs is not proof that he is not a man of God. If he is big enough to take correction and see his mistakes, he will grow There was a soldier who took himself seriously; he gave the General orders. Don't take yourselves too seriously. Let us take heed to that. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is bigger than anyone man or set of men. Some men claim to be the "one might and strong" Any man can get a following, and after he is gone the follower would fight for his place. The Gospel as the Lord Jesus Christ is different. Any man in the Priesthood of Jesus Christ could die and 'we know who will take his place. The Prophet was chosen by God to be the 1eader of this dispensation and with him were men chosen to be with him and in his day were set apart to be the Lord' s chief apostles They held that authority here on earth about twelve years later twelve disciples were chosen. God organized His Priesthood on earth. before He organized His church. It has continued from that day down to the present time. We now have membership from the Prophet down. Read Hebrews 5: "For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, etc." If they can trace their orders from the Prophet down to is day, they are all right. Let no one take that honor to himself except that it was through Aaron. I know some people who have broken off and taken the honor to themselves. They did not claim that they had that order until Leslie Broadbent died, then claimed that he ordained them . One man claims that authority because Brother Broadbent conferred it upon him. It happens to be that he came to me and said the Lord revealed to him that I was to confer that authority on him. Well, surely Leslie Broadbent must not have done it then. Usually a man goes to the President of the Priesthood. I told the young man to come back in a week. He came back after I made the matter one of prayer and I said: No I would not unless I received a revelation from God. We know of another instance where some believe that an Indian has the keys of the Priesthood. Some say there is a branch of the Priesthood; surely there cannot be a branch to the Kingdom of God. There can be branches to the main stem, but there can only be one trunk. It brings disunion instead of union. that is one way you can tell it is from the devil. There are lots of signs if you ·watch for them. This person claims that the Priesthood came from the Prophet to Lorin Woolley and then he gave the Indian the Priesthood. They-don't know the name of the Indian. Let me show you why it cannot be. In the school of the prophets, Lorin C. Woolley taught certain men the order of the Priesthood from the Prophet down; He gave certain ordinances to be performed He was over a year giving those ordinances. The last four months that he was well, he said we must hold two meeting a week in order to complete it. On the last meeting he completed all the work. When he did so, he turned to Leslie Broadbent and said "Leslie from here on you take charge". He was second elder to Lorin. If I am wrong on this, I want to be corrected . So put the measuring stick on them again. Are they assuming that authority? Are they called by God as was Aaron?? We have a lot of wedges. The devil is fighting: he wants to split us up. Is that union? Is that the work of the devil or the work of God? I tell you what is good enough for me --- that line traced form the Prophet Joseph down. May God be with you that we may follow in the straight and narrow way, is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ Amen.
Brother Marion Hammon:
I thought of a little saying, but I won't repeat it. I am the one mighty weak and Joseph Smith is the one mighty and strong. There is hardly a family here has not gathered to this place to live the Gospel Most of you have come from a foreign community, lands etc. I left a good job, comfortable surroundings and I pushed it aside to come here to live the Gospel. In Sunday School we saw a picture of the group in New York. They came to live the Gospel. Axel (Fors) came across the ocean to live the Gospel; and there are others. Are you doing it? Am. I doing it? I learned of the fullness of the Gospel in June 1937. I was studying it and Joseph (Musser) came to me and asked if I was ready to 1ive it. I hold that when a people take of the sacrament the name of God and say they will live the Gospel, they are under obligation Many of this body of people were active in church circles and they come here to live it. Many have gone on, and they have barn testimony that this is the Gospel of Jesus Christ and that these men hold the Priesthood of God. But today they are week as water They are either liars or have lost the faith. I choose to believe they have lost the faith. In the moment they are sincere you have never heard me say that Jesus is the Christ, but I believe it. I have never said I knew it. I cannot truth fully that God has revealed it to me. I don't believe it is a sin, but I believe in having the testimony. I was not pleased this morning with the thing that happened in Sunday School. I want to tell you this that so far as I have ever known Rulon Al1red, there are no two people nearer in the Gospel than we are when this position understood in the Council; I don't want you to say that I said anything is the word of God unless I say it is the word of God. I hold that there is man among us, including the Council, is perfect in the Gospel. There are many men in this group who see eye to eye on the Gospel. You cannot pick as many in the church· who see eye to eye on doctrine; I want that understood. I love the Gospel and I love a man who loves the truth and a woman who loves the truth; and I love a lot of people who do not love the truth. Some of. you are going straight to hell. You know who you are. You know whether you are pleasing God. I feel to acknowledge my weaknesses. I have never had a greater desire to overcome them than I have now. Brother Rulon (Allred) had the privilege of reading "Innocent Vices" from the TRUTH I can say there are none. I hold that no man in this room; that no man, has a right to set examples that sow in my children the seeds of death. Some of we people have taken privileges that are going to hang on us on judgment day. I say that the Prophet had to restrain himself many times because of the people. I say that you pride yourselves, each one of you, in that you lives are an example or pattern for the people to follow after. I thought I could live a life that would be exemplary. I have had some others in my home who thought they could. If you sisters want to be big and mighty and strong, help your husbands, not hinder matters. You pro fess to love your husband's more than anything on earth, yet you are the first ones to cause trouble to him. We come here to see others do things and it doesn't matter; we see our husbands do it and we won't put up with it. It is not my privilege to lull along like the people of the church. I am afraid we are going to be door-keepers for Father Abraham. I look back on the association I have had with this people; we have been called to repentance and we've been preached. to, but do we live the Gospel? We are improving, but not as much as we should have. I don't know what is going to happen to us if we don't do better. Heber C. Kimball said we are going to go through the test, the test, the test. Brother Rulon Allred read us about some of the tests. Some of the sisters think they are going to be called to supersede the Priesthood. I understand that there are a lot of men too halfway following the Priesthood; yet some of them take a wife through that priesthood. Some of those men are going to raise up their eyes in hell. I tell you that a man who takes wives just to take a wife, he will raise up to repentance of it. I have not done what I should at times with women. I have abused their feelings, but there is no woman hat I love so much that I would deviate from the principles of the Gospel No woman can expect that would receive revelations from her. No women can convince me that Adam is going to be the one mighty and strong I will never stand for it worlds without ends. If it is so, I have apostatized now. I do not believe that the Priesthood has a disposition that they will force you to believe they are the Priesthood. I don't have to lay awake nights to convince myself that I was called of God. A man who has faith in a man to get a wife by him, should have the same faith that that man has a right to call him into the Priesthood Those of you who are upset in feelings, you would relish blessings at the hand of the Priesthood. This sermon that Brother Allred read today ran along with my feelings. You poor women better be careful. This idea of having more than one body--the re can only be one of you. -- that body you have today is a tabernacle, is a body where the spirit of God can dwell. I will be glad when I can take my body again, but I will be mighty ashamed of it. These things that we go through are for our good Does God bring bad things on us for out good? Yes, If it is necessary. My mind often reverts back to the spirit world When our names appeared on the bulletin board to come to earth, I am not so sure we did not go before God to plead with Him to bring us back into His presence. When we had the spirit of love of God on us, I'll bet we pleaded. Then we came to earth and have things brought upon us: then we bellyache because He brings it on us. It is for our good, I think. I have dreamed all my life of having Jackson County redeemed and that city built.. I tell you, I want to go. It will be worth me price. We spend all the days of our lives desiring to go and how great will be our joy. Yet we go along muffing the job. There are troubles creeping among us right now. My families are getting extravagant. I have never told them before, but they are. If you people don't insist on sticking close to our bosoms, using care in your actions and in keeping the commandments of the Lord, you will find yourselves sad and disappointed and full of sorrow. I commend that we all restrain ourselves a little more. You men who are in the principle, get just a little more humble. It was never forced upon me and it will not be forced upon you. I proved that I was ready to enter it, because I went to some lengths to enter it. You should go into it with fear and trembling. If you do not before, you will after, for you have taken upon yourselves a mighty big job I want you to know that I believe that this is a principle of God. There is principle that has been revealed to this generation that will bring people nearer to God that living that principle in purity. If a family lives the United Order along with Plural Marriage, that will sanctify you. We had better go forth today a little more humble and a little more willing to live right. I confess that I am weak. I have a desire to overcome it. I love this body of men. You can mark this word as the word of God to you – that the day is not far when we will see the word of God in His Judgments. I would not be surprised to see the meeting of this people far and few between: when we will hunger for the privileges we now have ---to meet with each other. God be merciful to us all Yet I pray that we will say "Thy will be done" I say it in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Musser:
We have heard the word of the Lord; we have to the extent that if we reject that which has been given, to that extent will we shrivel up. "God Be With You.
Announcement: Brother Rulon Jeffs will review "The Coming Crisis—How to Meet It" It is a companion article to the one we reviewed today. Now is the time that we need it. (JWM) LJAllred.
31 May 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at Brother Charles F. Zitting' s home
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, May 31, 1942 . Held at Brother Charles F. Zitting' s home, 4118 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah 2:00 p.m.
Brother Joseph W. Musser presided.
Brother Charles. F. Zitting conducted.
1st Song: "The Lord Is My Light" Prayer: Brother Fred Cleveland 2nd Song: America"
Brother Rulon T. Jeffs:
My brothers and sisters, I don't when I have felt weaker and. more dependent upon the help of the Lord. Much of the time will be taken in reading the article, "The Coming Crisis—How to Meet It" and making comments and thoughts will be brought to bear on the subject. We recall that Satan is the Son of the Morning who rebelled against the Gods and he fell and was cast down to earth to fulfill a mission. He seeks to pervert the wil1 of God; and. now when God has set to preserve his people, Satan is loose to do his work. This article appeared in the Millennial Star, April 30,1853 and S.W. Richards was president of the European Mission at the time. The article also appears in TRUTH Vol. 5, ; 97 as follows: A great and awful crisis is at hand --such a crisis was never known etc,etc., Comments: I recall last summer that one of the Council, Bro Musser, was told to warn the people to observe this crisis. I wonder how many have recently read Sec. 129 of the Doc. & Cov.: "There are two kinds of beings in heaven, etc:. Any person who receives a revelation form Satan doesn't stop to see whether it is from Satan doesn't stop to see whether it is from Satan. ***** "believe a lie and be damned" It means that Satan would be given such power that the elect Saints of God will be tried. There are ways we can obtain revelation: One is the whispering of the spirit. Sec. 8 of the D. &. C. gives us this, "Yes, behold, I will tell you in your mind etc." v. 2,3,4. Brigham Young said not to pray for revelations, but to pray for the spirit of God and keep it. that is what the Council has told us to do. If it be a dream, the Lord. will put it in your mind and the Lord will make it possible for you to get the message. It tells us right here in the article about. What is the key of this present revelation? If we receive revelation as head of our families, we are entitled to that. But if we receive revelations to direct the Priesthood, then you may know for certain that it is not from God. D. & C. 3ec. 28 gives us another key verse 2and section 43:-1,2,3,-7 What is the situation today. It has come down regular succession from Joseph Smith to the present day. I want to testify to you as a servant of God that these me in the Council hold the keys today. If you haven't a testimony of them you should not be here today, or at least you should be seeking for it. I want to close by reading this by Joseph Smith: "0 ye Twelve! and all Saints profit by this important Key-- in all your trials, troubles, temptations, afflictions, bonds, imprisonments and death, see to it, you do not betray heaven; you do not betray Jesus Christ; you do not betray the brethren; that you do not betray the revelations of God, whether in Bible, Book of Mormon, or Doctrine and Covenants, or any other that ever was or ever will be given and revealed unto revealed unto men in this world or that which is to come. Yea, in all your kicking and floundering, see to it that you do not this thing lest innocent to blood be found upon your skirts, and you go down to hell. All other sins are not to be compared to sinning against the Holy Ghost, and proving a traitor to the brethren." Look back over 'the history of the Church; The apostasy and traitor-ship of the brethren and heads of Gods church. The kick and floundering of God's anointed. I say we had better cease it or we will be damned. I have been dubbed a "yes man" as far as the things that the Priesthood Council have given me to do. If I was, I would be still in the Church. I want to serve these servants of God! Read on page 8 of this issue of' the Truth (Vol. 8): If you are ever saved, you have got to take a course to draw near to the throne of God; etc." I pray that -.we will take these things to heart. This is a Priesthood issue; if it were not so, we would not be separated from the church. May the Lord bless us and let us have His holy spirit, I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Charles Zitting:
Some very good advice and counsel has been given here. It reminds me of what Leslie Broadbent said: "If God will always show me my next step I will be satisfied and so for He has. In our striving and work, If God will show me my next step, I will be satisfied. It is a day when Satan is driving his ·wedges. It is a day when all that can be shaken will be shaken. It is here now and it will be some pretty good people that will be shaken. We must remain prayerful. Every step we take we must depend on God. If a :person goes to work in tilling the ground he should dedicate it to the Lord first. If he has any difficulties, he should dedicate it in the hands of the Lard and let it turn out the way the Lord wants. Above all, do not betray those that are at the head of you. brethren, do not betray the brethren at the head of you. You ladies, don't betray the Gospel and the head of your home. Let us pray for guidance that we will know what the next step is and live each day of our own life and not be to a much concerned whether the other man is doing well enough. Let us be sure we are doing well enough ourselves. God loves a man like that. You will have to walk in the light of the Gospel yourselves before you can tell others how. May God bless you all that we will live and follow in the straight and narrow way, is my prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Guy Musser:
There has been such a really good spirit here today that I trust God will enlighten me that I might add to it: or at least not detract from it, for I feel We are enjoying the Spirit of God. I desire to bear witness to the things said before me, these things are true. This crisis is upon us now. I am glad we have the leadership that we have. As I sit there and listen to these things from Sunday to Sunday my mind reverts back to years ago when my dear father use to come to the farm and relate the things that are being related today. And it brings satisfaction to my soul to know that the Truth has not been changed. Not one particle has the story that has been told and retold changed. It is like God and not changeable. God is truth and if He should change in any one particular He would cease to become God. It would be folly to think he would change any for this generation that were truths in the worlds before us. I appreciate the privilege of living in these times when the Lord is beginning to restore all thing s; the Gospel restored in its fullness; celestial marriage and all that has ever been revealed, shall be restored in this dispensation. Yet I realize in living in this time we are assuming a great responsibility. God is placing in the hands of Satan power to destroy us if we weaken. We are only strong when we possess the Spirit of God; only enlightened when. He controls our minds. How necessary it is for us to possess the Spirit of the Lord day and night. A better slogan could not be more appropriate than "The Kingdom of God of Nothing," and that we get the Spirit and keep it. I am grateful at this time that we have the spirit of inspiration and that we have had brought before us the folly of raising up against God and his anointed on earth. So plain and simple is the key to know it. Paul says that the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, faith, meekness, temperance, against which there is no law. Individuals who have developed these attributes, there is no law on earth that will bind them. It is true, God has given Lucifer power and strength to try us, but we are also told that God's bounds are limitless. And when individuals develop and keep the spirit of God and have within themselves that spirit, they will have more power. As was said last Sunday, "One man and God. is more powerful than all the people of the earth and Lucifer. Paul said, "This know also that in the last days perilous times shall come, for men shall be, lovers of their own selves, covetous, proud, boasters, blasphemers, disobedient, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, truce-breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, (there is another key, when you see when you see men despisers of those that are good they are lead by the devil. We have many among us who are striving to bring truth among us) Traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God. (Tim. 3:1-4) I feel deep in my soul that one thing is going to condemn us more than anything else--lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God. It is not unnatural and sinful to desire to have a dollar and something nice; the sin is when we place that affection above God and the love of Truth. I know. God wants us to have the fine things of the earth, but until we learn to love Him above all else, then we are not going to have these things . I have one desire- the Lord might humble me and humble me till I place my affections on Him and nothing but Him. I desire that my wives and children will be humble. These are the things that have been on my mind; hearing the remarks last Sunday and today. The brethren can see we are sinful and are trying to follow the things of the world but they are seeking to unite us and bring us together to make us those few who will do His work end fulfill the Lords will. We all have that desire to go back to Jackson County. The brethren are trying to help us become fit vessels who can go forth with power to consume Satan and his agents. God want s men who can stand up with their helpmates and go forth. what a great blessing to a family and the Kingdom is a women who is pure and noble, whose affections are first for her husband. What a great opportunity the women of this group have –the option to become Eves. I wonder what greater careers we could have than being a helpmate to a servant of God and bring into the world the spirits on the other side and help to bring them into the Kingdom,--of teachings them the ways of truth and righteousness and striving with them and working with them. I would give anything in the world if I could hear my dear Mother pray again. She knew how, and how to reach God! She was a woman of Israel and she was trying to live up to her mission. Sisters, you have a great opportunity, and I know if you are faithful, one of the sweetest blessings in your life will be to see those covenant children rise up and call you blessed. May God bless you and sustain us in our trials and tribulations; May He uphold the hand of these men who are leading us; give them vision, grant them dreams, that they might lead us and instruct us and help to make us fit vessels for God to use, is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Tenor Solo: by Alfred 0lschewski: "Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing."
Brother Kempfe;
(From New York) I am very happy to be among you and partake of the spirit that is present. I don't think that in my 20 years of membership in the Church that I have met with a stronger, finer people than this group. The first time I the TRUTH was in 1939, and it was like coming into the faith again. I have not been from New York very long, and in that time I have been here in Utah I heard so much against this group. I hope I will be able to stay among you. I hope the Lord will keep me humble enough to understand His Gospel I ask the Lord to bless us and the men leading us, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
If we take in one tenth of what we have heard today and profit by it, we will be stronger Saint tomorrow than we were yesterday. that which has been read and spoken is the message of the Lord to us today "The Coming Crisis and How to Meet It" was published in the world nearly 100 years ago. It depicted conditions that were beginning at that time and we are right in the heart of that situation at the present time. There are two Priesthoods in the world: Priesthood of God the eternal Father, which is His power and His authority on the earth. that Priesthood makes for righteousness: It is preparing men and women to become gods and goddesses, Princes and princesses, and lords and lordsses, kings and queens It is the Priesthood that embraces all truth and light. Here is nothing in truth no matter where it comes from that is not embraced in that Priesthood and all authority. Now if that Priesthood were putting forth falsehood it would cease to function as the Priesthood of God on the earth. If God permitted such He would cease to be God. We have an example of that in Satan: he was a man of high standing in heaven and he failed. It is the Priesthood we are trying to infuse in the minds of the people today. The other priesthood is a counterfeit --- the Priesthood of Satan. He could not operate without it. It has certain bounds, certain privileges, certain authorities: and we have learned in the text we were given today, that in this day at the present time God is giving that priesthood and that power that theory of governing such a wide range that it would seem God is enthroning Satan rather than preventing him from going on. Why is he doing it: Because the office and mission of Satan is to test the children of men: to ascertain whether they are going to make the sacrifice that God and Jesus Christ had to make: that Abraham and Joseph Smith had to make for religion and the other prophets of God. It would be useless for the Lord to try to exult us without that test, without being tried. You would not build a house of green lumber: It was to be seasoned and worked with before you can use it in a good residence. An those who finally gain a Celestial home in the glory of God will have to be tried and seasoned to prove that they have fought a good fight and earned their reward and their calling and election is made sure. You cannot make your calling and election sure without being tried: without having burdens placed on you and find whether you will stand at the rack, hay or no hay. We find men and women who are filled with the spirit of the Lord and make a declaration that they would stand before a firing squad for the Gospel's sake, and then other times they are but mortal beings --- people who weaken to mortal desires. They are the seeds thrown on the ground and that came up beautifully, and then the heat has ruined them. that has been the case in the days of Joseph and Father Adam. Only a few have been faithful to the end. Another thing you will find mentioned here today— that the people who are seeking to live right, who are making an effort are those that are being lied about they are blasphemed at: All kinds of thing have been hurled at their characters It come from Satan. The spirit of God is love, not contention: it is mercy and justice: fruits of the spirit will fill our souls with all the peace and comfort that we can enjoy. So it is not God that creates those terrible things It is the devil. We cannot prevent them for opening their mouths an letting them run forth. Jesus was called the wine –bibber and His company was among those of the harlots: and the wicked high priests, high officials in the church at that time tried to brand His character as a man of wickedness and of course He was crucified because of those wide denunciations. So it was with the apostles: they were Killed in one way or another for the same. All martyrs have died in the same way except one. I had said quiet frequently that at the time of Joseph the Prophet while there were some 30,000 members of the church, there were not 20 people then in the world who could be found who would claim he was a prophet of God. David Whitmer who was so greatly blessed and who saw the Plates by the angel, finally apostatized and lost his standing in the church. We have the same condition today: we look upon the early prophet, but we are so for withdrawn from them at times: We look upon them as perfect men: we think of Peter, Jams and John as perfect persons. We go back to Noah and his time , and they were perfect. Oh if we could have only lived in those days. His own father and the priest of his day turned Idolaters Had it not been for the protection of the Lord he would not have lived. How many of us could have lived as Abraham who was told to take his only son to sacrifice: How man here could have stood by him and stood that test: It is a test that you brethren and sister will have to go through: not in the same form perhaps, but everyone of us will be tested to the last step of our endurance before we are thorough . Is it worth it? Is salvation worth the things that we are tried to do at the present time? Why not take a Terresstial glory or even a Telestial which is beyond all human capacity to conceive of'? Why go through this hell, this fire and. face these false reports, and be classed as apostates and murders, as I been called when I night take another glory? ·Why? because we have elected to become gods we have elected to become king of kings and lord of lords; we have elected to earn and qualify for a world like this wherein 'we can go on during the eternities propagating; ruling over our progeny, and letting then: build earths for themselves and propagate throughout the eternities. We have elected to do like our Eternal Father did. We are trying to qualify ourselves to get back into his presence; and no one can live in His presence who has not attained to the Celestial glory, and no one can attain to that glory until they have attained what God has attained. that is a great ambition. No wonder we bend under the burden at times. We are just mortal. Brother Hammon pointed something out to us last Sunday: We have set our faces like flint to this goal that we are after. Are we going to follow it out? People say they would. die for their religion. If dying would bring us that reward it would be easy. But how about living for our religion? How about receiving the admonitions of these servants of the Lord and cease our bickering and back-biting, and quarreling. When we (the servants of God) start preaching false doctrine, the Lord will take us away from , you. And if you have the spirit of the Lord you will be able w tell whether we are telling the truth. The Holy Ghost will not lead you astray with false doctrine. Now; I know Satan is abroad in the land and he is here in this house today. Both priesthoods are represented in this congregation today. One priesthood is whispering and endorsing the remarks of the brethren, and the other priesthood is trying to place a Question in your minds. Satan is trying to deceive you. Some of our minds today are going out in that light. The whole church is saturated with that spirit. I hear of the most horrible things happening to the children of the apostles today. "We cannot entirely blame the apostles for that unless the y have not done their duty. Some of God' s children have gone astray; and we all will have it in our families. These judgments will touch every family, not only in the church, but in the group. There will no one that these judgments will not touch. And the time will come when we will cry night and day and we will cease to worship the almighty dollar; and those who will not cease to worship it, they will be gone away. And 'the time will come when the people will be called into the temple and only those whose garments are pure will be permitted to go in there. Men will not be the judge, but God will be the judge. Is it worth our while? Now, brethren, I made a suggestion in Sunday School this morning--do not get any revelations for the Priesthood; you sister's, do not get any revelations for your husbands. When God want them to have a revelation, He will give it to them; and He will give it through the Priesthood. God has an order and is carrying out that order. When you are living properly and need a revelation for yourselves, you will receive it. We are continually asked what is going to happen. I have answered it. There is not a man or woman in the house today who is worthy that will not receive it. If the Lord gave us what we asked for all the time, it would destroy us if it was given to us. If your eyes were open now, you would not be able to sit here. I do not believe there is one in the house today who could stand it. We had better be careful how we ask for such things I promise you in the name of the Lord that as we are prepared to receive the mysteries, the Lord will give them to you. I wish I could give you some of the things I know. You will receive them as you increase and grow. So will many of you receive such things. Quit back-biting, quit lying about your neighbors, quit gossiping! I tell you in the name of the Lord , from this day hence forth, those who do these things will continue to go down and down, until you go to hell! Keep your tongues tight in these matters! I have heard some of the boldest lies about some of these men and women, and the man or woman who perpetrates such things will go down and down to hell! God bless you Amen.
Closing Song: "Have I Done Any Good In the World Today" Benediction: Brother Paul Falter (from N. Y.) LJ.Allred
14 June 1942
Meeting. Held at Bro Charles F. Zitting home
Minutes Sunday .Afternoon, June 14, 1942 Held at Bro Charles F. Zitting home. 4116 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City Utah At 2:00 p.m. Bro John Y. Barlow conducted and presided. 1st Song: "Improve the Shining Moments"· Prayer: Bro Marvin Allred. 2nd Song: By the Choir, "Think Not When You Gather to Zion.
Brother Fred Jessop:
I feel very much my weakness and inability to stand before a gathering of the Saints I pray the Lord might strengthen me that I might be of some good. I am thankful for the desire I have to keep the commandments of the Lord, and go for the courage I have to go on; for the place I have among this group, the Lord's people. I am. thankful for the position and calling on our brethren. I feel that I have a testimony that they are men of God. I pray the' Lord. will bless me with a stronger testimony, that when the storms and judgments come upon us I might not fall by the way, but stand. There is a :point that has come to my attention in recent weeks that I have not noticed before. Some probably have seen it and some may have not. I feel it is worth passing on. We all know that the fullness of the Gospel comprehends the patriarchal order of marriage and the Order of Enoch, and much stress has been placed on t these principles. Often times many people have been making these a hobby and not giving due consideration to the other principles of the Gospel. All the principles that lead up to them. must be kept. People in this dispensation have been more or less rebellious and it has come upon us for hundreds or thousands of years, and our job is to overcome this. Because of it we find among the Lord's 'people a variety of doctrines. The Lord has sent His servants to delegate the way and. He always has and always will recognize His delegated authority. In keeping such positions they are qualified to point the way. I have observed this thing: that where a number in common take direction materially, they must, of necessity, take it spiritually. I cannot see material direction being taken and spiritual direction being destroyed. that points the way to keep on the right track I don't feel much like a preacher, but I am thankful for the little understanding the Lord has given me. May the Lord help us and bless us and give us the desires to believe. I feel more like praying than speaking.
Brother A.A. Timpson:
Where there is no vision, people perish. I spent a pleasurable two hours with Brother Musser yesterday. and that was the main topic of our conversation. We have heard from the pulpit of the tabernacle for as long as I can remember of possessing wealth; the idealism of building up church structures, but the weightier matters I feel have been neglected. Apostle Paul said, "Therefore not leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on to perfection". (Heb. 6:1) that accounts for our being here. I am grateful for the faith that we have to go on to perfection. We must live these higher laws of plural marriage and the United Order before we can hope to become perfect. When we learn to live with each other in our families then we have taken the first steps that we are striving for. Until we as families and as individuals perfect ourselves to a degree, 'we cannot expect to live with other families and. to go on to perfection. I am grateful for the prophets that have prophesied down through the ages concerning that. We say we can see the spirit by looking in a man's eyes. Until we have a blue print, we cannot build a structure. The leading brethren have continuously given us ideals to strive for Just as much as we incorporate those ideals in our souls, can we build those things that are real in our lives for the future. I am glad and grateful to know that we have the prophets of God in our mist and will take us by the hand and lead us step by step to learn. We wonder why we cannot have the whole plan laid before our eyes. In our desire to see more, we miss the next step ahead. Some of us get so much of the visions of the eternities , we fail to take care of the children we have at home. We forget those that we have at our elbow. Line upon line and step by step is the way Joseph Smith learned this work, and that is the way he taught his brethren, and the people in the church. I remarked to Brother Stubbs this morning going to meting that if the meeting were not held to bring us together we would soon go on a tangent and separate ourselves from the Priesthood. The purpose of this earth life is to see if we can do all things whatsoever the Lord commands . We bring children, spirits from our Heavenly Father, into the world, but they are not our children--they are loaned us. The only children that are ours are those that we have spiritually. that is why we say eternal lives. My prayer is that we my learn to live with those in our own household and then lean to live with each other; then we will be able to live with our Heavenly Father. This is my prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, .Amen.
Brother Arnold Boss:
spoke on how there was not a people ever existed that has had the things revealed to them that this group has had, and said that the Prophet said he had not revealed one-hundredth part of the things that the Lord had revealed to him because the people were not ready for then. He bore his testimony that these things are true and that these men are prophets of God; We are fulfilling prophecy today. He then remarked about the song the choir sang, "Think Not When You Gather to Zion", the words being by Eliza R. Snow. Because we have accepted the truth we have been ostracized. It has been said that a people would come out of the world to do the Lord's work, and if we do not prove to be the right people, the Lord 'will raise another people. The trials we have and will have will be to develop us that We may have the qualifications for the celestial glory. (Statement by Brother Broadbent concerning this people receiving doctrines from the Priesthood or the devil.) We have come to a point now where here just as God opens the curtains of our minds to I receive His things, He will allow Lucifer to step in with his doctrines. (Example of Joseph Smith and the Kirtland Temple.) There is not another people at the present time that has had such wonderful things revealed to them; and so you must look out for Lucifer is trying mighty hard to destroy you. The Gospel has come down from one on to another. that is why we call it the everlasting Gospel. It was not organized by Jesus Christ or the Father; but it goes on back through the eternities. Joseph Smith called it the Eternal Plan. God has a direct course for us to fallow, and if we will hang to the truth as we are suppose to, we cannot help but come back into the presence of God. Heber C. Kimball said the leading this people is like pulling a tree by the top most branch. God wants us to receive the truth as He has revealed it to us, not as to our notions. that is why apostasy came into the earth--because of the ideas that some people had. They were false doctrines and ideas. God gives us all our free agency, but we can use it wrong or right. In the day of judgment we will know whether we have used it right. Let us not imbibe anything that the Priesthood does not endorse. God want s you to have your own testimony, but be sure it is the right one. It makes your heart bleed to see what is going on in the wars today, and in the world in general. It is not whether you die, it is how you die. I am not concerned whether I die, But how I will be received on the other side. Will I be entitled to the society of the prophets of God that have gone on before: We are subject to the authority that has gone before us. (Spoke of the covenant that he took two years ago not to talk about anyone). We should build up the work of the Lord here on earth. It is my testimony that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God. May we all hold to the faith, is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Male Quartet: Rulon T Jeffs, Rulon C Allred, D. W. Jeffs, Lyman Jessop: "The Time is For Sent"
Sister Mattie Barlow:
Bore her testimony and thanked the Lord for his many blessings to her, and the people that she has to associate with in the group. She said she felt more like praying than speaking: that she knew the Gospel is true.
Brother Gene Jessop:
Bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel and said how the Lord had blessed him.
Brother Roy Johnson:
My brothers and sisters. I desire an interest in your faith and prayer that the spirit that has predominated this afternoon may continue to be here. The testimonies that have been born have been directed by the spirit of God What a wonderful thing it is for men and women to have this opportunity of standing up before people and expressing their thoughts and conveying to the people through the spirit of God the truths of eternity. Brother Boss in speaking reminded me of something I read sometime past, and in that article (by Brigham Young I think) it said that in the morning of the resurrection when we are brought forth from the earth and each head of family has found it is his privilege go to the grave and reach down to his wives and children and bring them forth, and he has fallen short of that wonderful privilege, that will get the time when it is said there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth: When men who have gone through this life thinking they have kept the commandments of God and found they have fallen short of standing up to the higher principles of the Gospel: those saving principles, living up to the laws which God had said will give us eternal increase. I know men and women in this church that I love. They are good men and women and I would like to be associated with them in the hereafter, but they do not listen to these higher things. I do know through the spirit of God, unless they do change their lives and live these higher laws, they will be sadly destroyed. Brothers and Sisters, let us stop arguing about this principle and that: Let us study them and come to an understanding that we might all see eye to eye: that every man and women is this building today may have that privilege in the hereafter of mingling one with another. May God's blessing be with you , I pray, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
We have had a feast today, and as I have remarked before, we have had enough to bring eternal salvation if we would live up to it. I was glad to hear Brother Gene Jessop bare his testimony. It has a ring that many do not have. He lives down there they don't have picture shows and gambling joints, etc. He seems to have a sweet spirit as do the other boys who come up from there. I am glad to see our young men and women and little children beginning to worship the Lord. I was glad to her form Sister Mattie, one of 14 children, and she is the other of 14 children,. Of course it is wrong to talk about women having 14 children in this day: but wit was so proper with the Lord that He told Abraham that his posterity would be as numerous as the stars or the sand upon the seashore. We come here to perpetuate ourselves. We had a choice in the spirit world where we could not progress any further, and we had to go through a physical and temporal life and keep a second estate. And having received that privilege from our father s and mothers, it would be cowardice to refuse that same responsibility. The glory we have and but hope to get is predicated upon our family organization. If we have no family organization and no posterity, and we have done all we can to get posterity, what is going to be our kingdom? If you are going to be a king , you brethren, you have got to have a posterity to rule over. You mothers, you have got to have daughter as well as sons for your posterity. It is not possible for all of us to have 14 or 16 children women can have or men can father. But we can do our part by living that great Principle: then the Lord will bless us,. Why, bless your souls, there are people in the house today that their posterity will be as numerous as the sands on the seashore. They are our children I we live up to our covenants and live all the commandments of the Lord. I was glad to hear Brother Fred (Jessop) say that we have to keep all o the commandments. The United Order and Plural Marriage are not the only things but all those who have lived the higher laws have necessarily lived the lower laws. If you are not going to live the law of consecration you cannot live celestial marriage. Brigham Young said that principle would damn more than it would save. We must appreciate that all the laws pertaining to salvation must be adhered to. This law of celestial marriage is not the only thing, but it is the capstone of the Gospel. I have been in the active service for about 60 years, starting at about 10. years of age. I did not preach plural marriage then, but about 42 years ago I took a covenant that I would not only enter that marriage, but help to keep it alive under the direction of President Snow. I have had 42 years of experience in that official capacity. I feel that I have done the best I knew how in the circumstances. I know I am weak and human. I know I have not lived up to the strength and power that I might, but there is one thing, that I ,would not like to try it over again. I do not want to quit either, until my mission is finished. When my mission is finished I hope I am prepared to face the other brethren on the other side. that song "The Time is for Spent" how many of us would to like to sit down with the Savior at the supper table? There is none that would not like to. We can all do it, but in order to do it we have to live up to the laws of God to the best of' our ability. that is my testimony to you. We cannot ride to heaven on a hobby horse. Jesus Christ could not get there without promulgating it; and We have got to do the same. It is so necessary that God Almighty had to live it and Jesus Christ had to, and we have got to live it. I know it is pretty hard to put up with some of us men. One of the things that Brigham Young bore down on was that all the women are imposed upon and it is a good thing to get over and not get discouraged. Yet men have disagreeable faults and we cannot always expect them to overcome them in a day or a year. Of course we men folks do not have any trouble with the women. These women are all angels. Some of them make a point to try us. Some of them are doing it well and it is a mission they are doing with honor. But the wart that appears on the wife's face will disappear in the eternities. And us men with bowed legs, they will be straightened out in the eternities. Set your mind to build up the Kingdom of God and live up to the laws and covenants that you have made up to live. We are a covenant breaking people and one of the things that will carry us down to destruction is the breaking of the everlasting covenant. What is that covenant? It is the Gospel of Jesus Christ; every law of it from the first to the last. The Doctrine and Covenant s says we will be condemned because of that fact. We go into the temple and enter into a sacred covenant and come out and break it. We receive garments and then come out mutilate them. We enter into the order of marriage and come out and repudiate it. We are a covenant breaking people. There is just one key I want to give you; the first principle of the Gospel is to know God and become familiar with His character and you can come to a point where you can converse with Him as you converse one man with another. Every man and woman who has a testimony of who God is and will honor that testimony will go on and on until they are promoted unti1 they are in the presence of the Eternal Father. The church has taken action and made a record of it, that Adam is not our Father and our God. They have done it in the last conference. Any man and woman who will deny the fatherhood and Godhood of Adam 'will go to hell and will be destroyed unless they repent your Father and God is Adam who became the father of our spirits before we came here. He gave us our bodies. He is our God and Father. If He is not our God and our Father, who is the father of my children? .Am I not going to have that privilege if I am faithful and true? If we can pass Joseph, Peter, James and John and those before, then We can go into the presence of our Father, Adam. God bless you, Amen:'
Brother John Y. Barlow:
would rather hear the testimony of men than the greatest sermon you can ever preach. It is the pure testimony that converts, edifies and strengthens us and we have had some wonderful testimonies here this afternoon. Let us put to mind what has been said. Let us remember this one thing: when we bear about anything that is going on around, Let us not be the one to spread it. Let us keep it to ourselves. You will stop the harm that is going on and the first thing you know you will be loving one and another. God bless you.
Closing Song: "Praise to the Man" Benediction: Brother T. R. Docktstader.
L.J.Allred.
28 June 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at Brother Charles F. Zittings home
Minutes
Sunday Afternoon Meeting, June 28, 1942 Held at Brother Charles F. Zittings home 4118 So. 5th east, Salt lake City, Utah 2:00 p.m..
Brother John Y. Barlow presided.
Brother Joseph W. Musser conducted.
1st Song: We Thank Thee, Oh God, for a Prophet. Prayer: Brother Victor Hyde 2nd Song:. Choir, "Praise to the Man." Announcements: : Fast Meeting to be held next Sunday, July 5, 1942, at 2:00 p m
Brother Ed Christensen:
I know this, unless the Lord comes to my rescue and enlightens me at this particular time with His spirit that I shall not be able to enlighten you one whit. If he can overlook my weaknesses for a little while and bless me with His spirit, I will be able to edify you. Words are feeble things indeed compared to the truths of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am happy beyond expression of words for this truth, for the knowledge I have received of the Gospel. I am grateful in the thought that I was faithful in my preexistent state which privileged me to come here in this probation to work out my salvation in fear and trembling. I am thankful for the knowledge I have received of the divinity of the Prophet's mission--of the divinity I have received of the mission of these brethren in the Priesthood Council. I am grateful that I can look men and women squarely in the eyes and say that I am not ashamed of the testimony of the Gospel that I have received. I hope it shall always be that way. I hope that my life will be that I can always look mankind squarely in the eyes and have nothing to regret. I have a desire from the bottom of my heart to come again in the presence? of my Father. I long for the time to come when I will be able to shake the hand of the Prophet Joseph in this life. I know that as well as I am standing here if I remain faithful to the covenants that I have made, I will. that I will. I want to tell you brethren and sisters there is nothing more dear and sacred that can fill up the soul of man as does the spirit of our Father. I have witnessed the two feelings, the opposite power, a repugnant feeling, and I have witnessed the feeling from the Father, a feeling of greatness, of humility--a feeling that you want that to go below all things that you want to do the will of our Father. My desire is to emulate the great prophets 'who have lived in the land,how they were favored of our Father because they were faithful and not afraid to stand up for the truth. They were not afraid, but they were willing to broadcast the truth when it was right, when the spirit of God rested upon them and told them it was time to teach the truth. I am reminded of the time in the early history of this church when the prophet Joseph, Hyrum, Orson Hyde, P.P. Pratt, and others were chained together in the Richmond Jail in Missouri. The scene would almost humble anyone, to know what those men had gone through; how they had been snatched from their loved ones. You and I have the privilege of becoming great in the society of our Father. Will there be anything greater than when we can come before our Savior and have Him Smile upon us and. clasp our hand.? No! Will there be anything greater than when we come in contact with the Father, Adam? Is it worth the Price? I think so! I hope that everyone o us will be privileged to receive these blessings. Remember we are the people who are to set the example to the rest of the world. In the near future some of us will receive greater light, greater responsibility, either to our condemnation or to our exaltation, if we choose to use our free agency. May we remain as humble and stead fast as was the Prophet Alma. This is my testimony, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
J. W. Musser: Yesterday was the 98th Anniversary o the martyrdom of the Prophet Joseph and Hyrum. The Prophet Joseph, the God of our dispensation, under of course, or Father, Adam, and our Redeemer, Jesus Christ. But he is the head of this dispensation. 98 years ago yesterday the Prophet and Hyrum were cruelly murdered because they chose to follow Jesus Christ.
Brother Herbert Smart:
Spoke next and bore his testimony that he was grateful for the Gospel that it is true: that we have a long way to go and a lot to do. He referred to Section 19 of the Doc. & Cov. And said that not many o us are strong enough to stand the things that Christ stood: that we have so much to do before we leave this life: that the we will be tried even beyond our endurance. Let us try to be honest in our dealings with our fellow men, be tolerant, and prepare ourselves for the other side.
Sister Hamilan (From California)
I feel very humble indeed in standing before you. I am very thrilled at this sight. We had quite a group in California but this is bigger. I am very young in the Gospel--- only five years. I was given meat before bread and it has been quite a struggle. I want you to pray for me.
Brother Kempfe: (from New York)
In visiting in the homes of this group I think back to my childhood. We met in Germany in the homes of the Saints. meeting like this makes us appreciate the Gospel. On the other hand, the peop1e of the church meet in beautifully decorated buildings. The Book of Mormon says we should not adorn our churches when there are poor among us. One thing about the Priesthood of God, it functions only when it is exercised in righteousness, and I we all exercise it in righteousness, we must seek first all that is virtuous and be humble, righteous, up-right, etc. I am thankful to my Father in Heaven that He has considered me worthy to bear His Priesthood.
Song: "Count Your Many Blessings"
Brother Monfrans:
He spoke of some of his experiences in Holland with the Saints, relatives, ministers; with people in this country who have seen him reading the TRUTH, and those who have sent books to him to bind; o his niece who told him he must quit smoking and breaking the word of wisdom (in Holland); how he came to this country, sending two daughters before him. He bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel.
Brother Marion Hammon;
have been deeply moves at the thoughts that have been expressed her today. Nothing thrills me more that to know a testimony burns in the heart o a human. I can say there is no Gospel without the divinity of the Prophet Joseph Smith. I appreciate the manner in which you often receive my remarks. I am very plain spoken., I was lead two or three weeks ago to say things plain to you. There is not a people who takes things as this people here today does. When we sang "Count your Manny Blessings" I was looking at one of mine. I was going to tell you about my marriage. When my wife and I decided we could tread the path together, we quietly told our parents and we had to borrow an automobile, and with one of her friends we drove to Logan and got married. When we got back, no one met us. Her mother built a fire in our place, having obtained it before we went to get married. that is how I took my first wife. The others I have taken come in the same humble way. None have begrudged the things the first ones had. I feel that if I can live another 50 years without show, I thank God . No greater blessing can be given to mankind than to have a faithful woman. No greater blessing could be had unless it is other women. I am grateful for my first wife. She was a gift from God. I have been impressed all my life of the divinity of Joseph Smith. When I hear questions concerning his divinity and his mission, It is a struggle to hold my inward feeling, If he was not a prophet of God then we are the biggest joke of the U. S.: if he was , we will be exalted above the hills. I bear the weakness of the flesh, but no person is a Latter-day Saint who does not believe Joseph is a prophet of God. If he not the One Mighty and Strong, the still we are a mistake. He is the one Might and Strong to me an always has been. Jesus Christ is going to come and claim His own. Why? Because He is the author o our salvation., The Gospel of Jesus Christ is life and death It is the separating of the Saints from the sinners, says Brigham Young. I am going to ask you for a little bit of show. How many were numbered in this group in the fall of 1938? ( ½ were and ½ were not.) I had not gathered here. I was in Idaho. in the fall of 1937 I attended a meeting in the Jentch home. More people were there. One-half of this congregation were not with them. I felt the Spirit of God that day. Where are those people now? There must be a falling away. Let me warn you that the sifting is going to go on. He want strong people whose knees won't buckle. If Lyman is building a house he builds the foundation that will hold it up. that is what God is doing . He is building up a people that when He sets down the Kingdom of God it will hold up. It is up to us, whether our knees are going to buckle. No man is sufficient unto himself. We have got to be able to resist evil and keep the spirit of God. If we do not continue active in good works, we will go into evil works. The Priesthood Council is either o God or they are not. There are lots of people in the church that are good honest Saint, And God will keep calling them forth if the people here don't measure up to their responsibilities. We are not the whole show. The only thing that constitutes apostasy is apostasy of heart and mind. Let us watch our step. Don't get rebellious towards the Church of Jesus Christ. I don't want to be numbered among any class of people that says they are against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I love it and long for it. I hope that when it comes again, when God sets down the Kingdom of God and sets His house in order again, those who are not in keeping with it will be cut off. What would give those people authority to speak when it sit in order? The Spirit of God ,. We won't be able to chisel on our neighbors on week days and come to church with sweet faces on Sunday. I delight in the association of the Saints. If I was deprived of this association, I would die, I know I would. I we just couldn't give utterance to our feelings when they burn within us, we would die and I believe it. It would not take any more that a snap of a finger if we departed from the Lord. I am grateful for my association with the Priesthood Council. I cherish the virtue that beats in the bosom of some of these Saints. They are going to mingle with the Gods. Bro Guy Musser is one of them. He never gave utterance, but I knew what was in his heart. I could be blindfolded and I could tell by shaking their hand weather they are Saint or sinners. These are the feelings that I have. We are engaged in life or death. If we are not assured of the 'work this Council is engaged in, then we better: get out. I don't know one that has broken his covenant s. There is not one that I could not go in his presence and tell him what t I think. I hope we have been edified by the remarks made today. I just can't read the things that the Prophet went through that it doesn't burn in my heart. No one on earth has suffered as he suffered in this earth life. If any of you doubt the divinity of his mission, then study it. I think of him when he was in jail, how he stayed his hand, how his heart bled, how he loved his brethren and how he suffered for them. I can't think upon the life and mission of Hyrum, without being moved to tears---how he stood by his brother. You can't find one with deeper lover that stood by him so; if you can I would like to hear about it. Hyrum and Joseph Smith when he crossed the Mississippi River. Hyrum was second elder in the church next to Joseph. Had he remained on earth he would have been chosen Prophet, Seer and Revelator. Hyrum was fully aware of who he was and what he would be. Those are the kind of men I want to be associated with. No one compares with Joseph in my estimation. I have said enough. I pray God will help us, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
My brothers and sisters, I have been greatly edified and built up in my faith. I thought of the sayings of the Lord I will take them two of a family and one of a city and bring them. to Zion. We have had a fine demonstration of it today. We have been to Holland, eastern U. S. and as far west as we could go, in listening to these brethren today. What Brother Hammon has told you is verily true. Joseph Smith has never had an equal on earth outside of Jesus Christ and Father Adam. What concerns me most, is how are we living. We call ourselves Saints. We say we are living the fullness of the Gospel. Are we? How are we living? Are we keeping the commandments of God I thought farther back than Bro Hammon said, to 25 yeas ago. Where are the people that were with us then? Is there anyone in the house that was with us? We have three, who have not sifted out. What did Bro Kimball say? He said this , that when you see one the streets of Salt Lake City---when you can't tell the Mormons from the Gentiles, than we will be sifting,-the test, the test, the test, it is going to be a test. We are all here today. Where are we going to be tomorrow? God is going to sift us so that He can build a foundation that He can stand upon. The Kingdom of God is going on. The Lord won't stop for us. God's blessings have been poured upon us. We have been a chosen few. He sent His son, Jesus Christ , and his Prophet Joseph Smith and gave them blessings. And they have been given to us. "Come out her Oh my people, etc." Some of them have come out. This day is the day of gathering, and this is the gathering place-- House of the Lord. Zion?" Yes, it is the gathering place here in the mountains. He is trying to prepare a people to get ready to go back to Jackson County so He can send the one mighty and strong here. Will we be prepared for the setting in order? First one thing and then another. First one person slides out; then another. Let us try to live the Gospel. When we see a brother slipping, let us not give him a kick. Let us help him back. I don't know when I have enjoyed the remarks of the brethren like I have today. I say to you brothers and sisters, to day, if you will live the way you ought to and keep the commandments of God, I promise you that Brother Brigham, Heber and others will come back here and help us out and me Prophet will soon set things in order; then we can go to the House of the Lord and seal our posterity back to Father Adam. Today we are cast out. that is why the one Mighty and Strong has got to come and set things in order. All the Saints gathered out are thankful in their hearts that they are gathered out., for the Lord has said If stand ye in holy places. You don' t have to be a prophet of God to see the things as they are today. Things have got to be straightened. We have, got to live so we can do it. God bless you. Let us live better. Let us do better and get more of the Spirit of the Lord and strive to keep His commandments is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
There will be a fast meeting next Sunday here at 2:00 p.m. Each individual here today make a resolution to prepare himself and herself to come here with clean thoughts and clear record; clean garments, and prepare to partake of the sacrament of the Lord's Supper The covenant that, We 'will take upon ourselves is, "Always remember Him and keep His commandments" and if all of you will do that with honesty of purpose, with an eye single to the glory of God that will receive a blessing such as you have never yet anticipated. Let us do that. I attended a funeral yesterday outside of the city of a sister and this was the eulogy paid to her by a report of 39 years standing--in 39 years she had never uttered one cross word in her family--not one word of criticism against her neighbor or anyone else. Her testimony was true and if we can get that testimony between now and next Sunday the Lord's blessings will be in this house and you will all be able to feel them and understand them.
Song: "How Firm a Foundation" Prayer by Charles Zitting. LJAllred.
Minute s
Sunday. Afternoon Meeting... Held at home of Charles Zitting 4118 So. 5th east, Salt lake City, Utah 2:00 p.m..
Brother John Y. Barlow presided.
Brother Charles F. Zitting conducted.
1st Song: "O Say What Is Truth" Prayer: Brother Vladimer Riedl. 2nd Song: "Zion Stands with Surrounding"
Brother Charles F. Zitting:
There is a prophecy that song we just sang, "Zion Stand With Hill s Surrounding". We as a people are being proven as we have never been before Some of us are actually going through a fiery furnace. Some of us are coming out as bright metal and other are coming out as slack. In another few years this crowd will be changed. But I trust in the Lord that most of these faces will be still staunch and true. We are going through a lot of trials in the next few years. This country will not be invaded as other nations but it will be cleansed. You may think you have got to pinch down now! but just wait. I went to the market yesterday to get some vegetables, and how I few I got for a lot of money. How necessary it is that the Saints raise their own vegetables and crops; to get together and raise the things that we will need. We must raise the things that we can store, those things that are necessary for the children. I am glad to see the Saints getting their own homes. We have made great strides in some things in the last year or two and if we can continue in that way, we will get nearer the united order. We have got up in this group some insurance for laying away our loved ones. They have improved upon that which we had and we are bringing it in the group alone. It is for those a who are in distress. We want to talk to you on this insurance. Brother Rulon Allred will say a few words along that line.
Brother Rulon C. Allred:
When Brother Charles stood up it reminded me of a funeral at which I spoke--I stole the bishop's subject. He stole my subject A year ago last January we started an insurance program with the to group in which the members paid 10 cents to 80 cents per month according to the age of the individual, the average benefits being from $25 to $400. There were 483 policy holders. It was decided that we withdraw from that. We feel that the Lord has had a hand in it. We decided to make it a purely Priesthood issue. Now the rate for a child under 14 years of age will be 15 cents per month and the benefit amount to be paid will be $75. The adult will pay (over 14 years of age) 30 cents per month, with a benefit amount of $150 None of the funds will be touched except for benefits, upon the death of an individual. Anything over $500 in the fund is to be used as a defense fund to protect the Saints Continually we have tried to get the brethren to donate a defense fund and have never collected more than $60 over a period of years. But if we operate under the same conditions as we operated under last year we will get up to an amount of $600 and still have a defense fund. Not one dime will be touched without the consent of the full council. Brother Hammon and I are in charge of this Jeffs Dell Timpson assisting. We should regard this as we do our tithes and offerings. It is not something that you cannot get something in return for. Your ratio is the same as anyone else's. In reading the D. & C. (Sec 64) the Lord said, "Now is called today, until the coming of the Son of Man. And behold it is a day of sacrifice and the tithing of my people for he that is tithed shall not be burned at His coming". Just as sure as we live and breathe, our blessings are predicated on law. This is a united Priesthood proposition. If you brothers and sisters feel you are entitled to something from it, then you must do your part.
Brother Zitting:
John (Barlow) said this is a start toward the united order and if we will do it we will receive benefit from it.
Brother A. A. Timpson:
In as much as the brethren have called on me to say a few words I would like to endorse the admonitions of Brother Allred. Any step we take can take un a mutual way with each other is bringing us a step nearer the Lord. As has been stated on occasions in the past, when we can learn to live with these brethren who preside over us, then we are going to learn how to live with the Lord. ..... Brother John has told us to prepare ourselves for the time ,was not far off when We must start the United Order. If we are to have the spirit of the Lord with us we must dedicate and rededicate ourselves and our possessions to the Lord. we are required to get ourselves out of debt and get around us the necessities for the future in living.
Brother Rulon T. Jeffs:
I had a feeling that they would call on me and I felt impressed at the time to bear testimony to you that I hope will do some good. And what I tell you brothers and sisters I don't want to be construed for bragging, but for the praise and honor to the Lord, or it is my desire to do all things with an eye single to the glory o God In the instance of my having been separated from my first wife, is indeed a testimony of the Lord blessing me. Last all I was heavily in debt. The Priesthood advised us to get out of debt and I made a covenant with the Lord then and there that if he would help me get out of debt, I would pay my tithing 10% and 10% to the United Effort I have kept my part, and I am now out o debt. I commend you to get out of debt. The kingdom o God or nothing! Our efforts, the united effort, are a testing ground for this people. I want to bear testimony o that to you today. I love the Lord to the extent that I will trust him and want to keep the laws of God. Those who will not keep the lower laws, cannot keep the higher laws. If we live the higher laws. We have lived the lesser laws. I want to bear testimony again, brothers and sisters, of the divine calling of the Priesthood Council. The things that I have followed according to their counsel are of God. If we do not draw near to them then we cannot draw near to God If we cannot live with the Priesthood Council, then we cannot get where God is. I love each one of you want to uphold you all in the things of God that you do. Those who have truly apostatized , you can truly trace it to disloyalty to the Priesthood of God. I have been thinking a great deal lately o Section 93 o he D&C (v. 36) "The glory o God is intelligence, or in other words, light and truth. It is about time, brothers, and sisters, that we united together, that we should begin now to cast off the traditions of our father and do everything in our power to keep the Spirit of the Lord. I trust that we shall all try to do what we can to keep it. I feel the weakest and humblest of you all. Our very lives should be laid upon the alter, withholding nothing. I pray this will be our happy lot, in the name of Jesus Christ Amen.
Brother Marion Hammon:
The condition which we are in weighs heavily on my mind Without further covering the ground that has been covered, I indorse that we are on testing ground. In conjunction with that I want to read a statement by Brigham Young. Many of us have been cut off the church: many have felt in their hearts that they have been abused by the heads of the church, but it has been for your benefit. God will suffer you not to go through anything except it be or your good, I you are truly Saint. You will suffer intensely in this earth, because your desires are for your Heavenly Father in righteousness. I can promise you that you are on your =Heavenly Father in righteousness. I can promise you that you will suffer intensely until you learn to live under the bonds o the spirit of God. Many have felt because o the shortness o our thinking that we are set free of all obligations when we are cut of the church. Many that truly have been apostates have flocked to the Priesthood of God to take refuge. Man of the people that have come to the Council have served God because they were truly Saints. There is a parallel for it and there will be a parallel again: but there will be spiritual manifestations with us. We will have enemies rise up and try destroy our lives. ( Then he read a statement by Brigham Young from J of D Oct. 1853m speaking to those Saints who delayed coming to Utah until after settlement were made and work started on crops, home etc. "Where have you been living and where did you go after you left Missouri ? I say, there was not a man who said Joseph Smith was a prophet o God who could stay there. And You now come in this late date, etc. **** teach him" And now in conclusion, I feel that we are in a state of peace today, and I believe the Lord has accepted our desires to repent We are under obligation to each other in this program. If we haven't any friends here, we haven't any place. The Lord is going to call those out who are true friends. Many of us have no desires to indulge I the things o the world, but when death comes, there is a state law by which we must abide. We have men who could make the box for burial but the state laws will not permit it. There is a certain obligation of finance that we must abide. Insurance is blessing to man to carry. This opportunity is a blessing to us. Many families feel there won't be anyone die. Even so, we must help the others. Those who know our means will be spent in building up the Kingdom of God, will be blessed. Those who profess to live the laws o God and have separated themselves from the world, are under obligation to the laws o God, all of them. If you think 10% for tithing is too much, consecrate it all. Brother Ed (Christensen) will have that opportunity. I am happy to see the progress that we are able to make every time we get down in the dumps we come out the victors. When you lose the Spirit of God it is the only way you can get it back – by repentance. I had a beautiful experience this morning. I looked upon the faces of the people I met with and was certain that there was not any but what were serious in their intentions to keep their covenants. I we keep the covenants we have made, it will keep us alive. The thing that led me to investigate the Gospel was what I read in the paper about the troubles at Short Creek Then I studied and prepared my heart to receive the things that we have today. You know that I am doing nothing but repeating what many great prophets before have said, and Leslie Broadbent said " From this day forth everything that is said and done against this people will be for them" I will say this in the name of the Lord: "I you will cherish in your hearts the principles of the Gospel, the United Order and that which is before us, you will never pass through a trial. Just as sure as you enjoy the Spirit of the Lord, nothing will be a trial" I hope that will be our lot. I t will be the lot o some of our people. The church is starving the people to death, people that have the Gospel of Jesus Christ in their hearts and will not die without it We should be thanking the Lord deeply that we enjoy he light of the Gospel that we receive. We are now going to start some Genealogical work to take the place of the Tuesday night class. Whether it will be on Tuesday or some other night we do not know as yet. We have been authorized to go ahead in the work. We must prepare ourselves for the time is not far off when we will be able to do the work for our families to link them together, and if we are not prepared, what a loss it will be to us. Bro Dockstader, you will be one to go ahead in that work. Fifty percent of those in this congregation have records of who they are. I suppose that you do not tell this to the church for they will not let us go very far. But then I should not tell you that, for I know you will. It will be talked far and wide! The Lord is over this work, as sure as you are alive. Just as soon as we do thing to obtain the spirit of God, We will have it as sure as we are alive. God said: "These are my tabernacles". And our bodies are the tabernacles for the spirit of God. I am thankful that we have the disposition to keep our lives clean. They must live plural marriage in hell. For hell is not complete without it. You will never be a good devil until you have tasted of the law. You will never have the capacity to be a God until you have lived it. Those of you that might have fears and doubts, figure you can slide by the gates. Some are in the Terrestrial kingdoms and will be on the other side: your are in the Telestial kingdom and some will be on the other side. There might be a few in the Celestial kingdom here and we hope that we will be on the other side. You might get into the second glory of that kingdom, but there will be finally a gate that you cannot get by because you have to have a certain pass word. that is the gate that gets you into the presence of God. . If you qualify, and you are diligent enough, the pass word will be given you on the earth. You mark my word--you will never get into the glory of God until you learn that pass word. A lot of the prophets of God have called men to enter the law, but they never abided it. It is one thing to be invited into that order and then it will be up to me to abide it. This schooling takes longer than a year or a few years. It is going to take a life time o faithfulness. You brethren who are in the law or out of it and think you can do it for three or four years are going to be surprised. I know I am helpless without the aid of the Lord. You will never make it without the spirit of God. This valley was built for the purpose of the Lord's people. Orson Pratt was sent out in the early days to dedicate certain parts here or the good of the Saints. When God hakes a hand in the cleansing, they will shudder.. The Kingdom of God will roll along, and we are rolling along as long as we keep the commandments o God. Your people who are receiving tutorship will be instructors then. God Bless you,. Amen.
Brother Charles Zitting:
(He read from D. &. C. Sec. 132:4,-6) "For behold, I reveal unto you a new and everlasting covenant: and if ye abide not that covenant, then ye are damned; etc" I want to say to some of your brethren that become a law unto yourselves, (it is the ones who are not here today) those who think they know a little more and are a little better than the Priesthood of God, I don't care what their weaknesses are, God :put them in that position, and so be careful.. I hope that in spite of their weaknesses, I will be able to take their counsel. If you think that you oppose the Priesthood that gave you those higher blessings and live it for a while and then not abide in it and think you will get the blessings, will be left. It will be as though you had never abided it. I want to say to some of you ladies who are a little too good to take direction from your husbands, (who are not taking Priesthood direction from any one) "if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned. that applies to you: brethren too. (:He then spoke of the Manifesto, saying that if it was a revelation of God it should have been numbered in the Doc. &. Cov. as the other sections were, and the fact that it was in the back of the book un-numbered was a proof that it was not a revelation of God; that President Ivins said it was not a revelation of God as inquired by Brother Zitting; that Brother R. C. Allred's mother and father were married by him after the Manifesto; etc. etc.) May God bless us that we will go on and not find excuses to hide behind, is my prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Choir: "I Can See Thee--O My Savi or"
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
I am very strong y impressed with the trend of the meeting. One of the topics that has been in the upper most of the minds of the saints of our group far several years has been the United Order. There have been quite a number of them who have volunteered to open that work. They have figured because We, the Priesthood Council, have not inaugurated it (the united order), :have gone off and have tried to do it among themselves. They will fail until the Lord sets His house in order. It is being done at the present time. President Nibley had been reduced from a millionaire to a man of poverty. He gave an address on it and one of the brethren said he did not know that Brother Nibley was so ready to live the United Order. that is a clear picture of the human mind. Many o you have urged it in your own. feelings, but yet are you prepared to live it? I'll bet you can count the people who are prepared to live: it on one hand (but not my hand), or even one finger. But now in the explanations that have been made, the Lord is beginning to set things before us that we can do. Now brothers and sisters you never know. You may expect death to come any time. (Brother Erickson came home, ate a meal and shortly died while taking a nap.) We never know when our time is here. We have the privilege of helping each other. If we do not have this insurance program , then we have go to get out and hustle. Now the Lord says He is just going to test you out We will let you have a United Effort plan in which you can raise the means to pay the mortuary bills. In California a man was left on the rocks: his family left him and he was in the hospital dying. When he died, we had to raise the funds to bury him. In this plan there is no waiting. It will cost 30 cents a month; a year would cost $3.60; ten years ,$36.00; a hundred years $360.20. Why I am willing to live and bury all. I hope the Lord. Will force us to get a place to meet in soon so we will not have to impose on these brethren. I think the test is coming again, in helping to build a meeting house. If we cannot unite on this, we cannot unite on anything (speaking of the insurance plan). And we cannot expect Bro Allred and his assistants to run us up. Here we have had a year of it and we have buried several people. We have had no difficulty at all in meeting the situation. This is your proposition: the Lord has laid it before you and it comes officially. I have heard lots of you say you are ready to live the United Order. This is a step in that direction and unless you live the united Order, you will never get into the Celestial glory,. This is the beginning from the Lord Joseph is already setting the House of God in order! I want you to know that! He is not going to come here and climb on a tree and proclaim things. This is one of the little ways we will be tested. God bless you, Amen.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
My brothers and sisters it does my heart good to hear the brethren talk as they have this afternoon, I know the United Order is true and we have got to live it as well as all the other laws. Will the people who are not in the Celestial Kingdom have to be baptized.? No. that is the entering into the Kingdom of God. From then on all the laws are celestial laws. There have been a great many things said here today to cause us to think. Many have been handled, But there is one thing we want you to understand --- that the Kingdom of God is inseparably connected with the powers of heaven and you could not be handled unless it is done in righteousness. When the heavens with draw the Priesthood withdraws with it. Amen to the Priesthood of a man who exercises it in unrighteousness Many of the Prophet of God said there would be a time come when there would be a certain people brought out of the Later-Day Saints who would live all the laws of God We have been preaching this for a number of years. We have been cast out. Don't get mad, but keep sweet. Your business it to live the laws of God and keep them and keep the spirit of God with you. Don't worry of the other man. I am greatly impressed in this late movement that is going ahead now. I we go ahead in that we will have some more. Some have been trying to do this or years. Some have divided up. Yes, we have had some trouble and lots of back-sets. Right today our grain is all burned up. The winds have done it. But what of it. that does not make much difference to the laws of God. We must keep going on. We may find that some will have to our pockets and pay for some of these things. What of it? When we get into our heads "the Kingdom of God or Nothing" then we will begin to get somewhere. I do not feel as good as I might do. A doctor here put me on juices: and there am. Maybe it will do some good. There is a much better spirit than there has been in times past. Get the spirit of God and keep it! The Lord told me to tell you this sometime ago. We can see the results o it in some of you. It does not make any difference what some men say. We are going to be judge according to the living of the law. ( He then referred to a sermon of Brigham Young on "Life and Death" and if we ever get into a place where we cannot get any higher then we will start going down,) In the Celestial Kingdom there are three degrees. In order to obtain the highest, you must live the law of Celestial Marriage. There are just two roads – one to eternal increase, and the other to dissolution. Which are we going to take ? It up to you! God bless you, Amen.
Closing Song: "True to the Faith."
Benediction: Brother Roy Johnson.
Announced Sunday School at Brother Lyman Jessop's next Sunday.
26 July 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at the home of Charles F. Zitting
Minutes:
Sunday Afternoon Meeting July 26, 1942. Held at the home of Charles F. Zitting. 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah. 2:00 p.m. Bro John Y. Barlow Presided.
Brother Joseph W. Musser conducted.
1st Song : "Redeemer of Israel". Prayer: Brother Thomas Collins 2nd Song: "Earth With Her Ten Thousand Flowers". Announcements: Baptism of Children --Brother Guy Musser and Brother Marvin Allred in charge.
Bro: David Darger: Was the first speaker and said how the Lord blessed him and given him so much. He then read a song, : that the Lord will Provide" (Page 136 of the S. .Song Book) and said how the Lord had provided our clothes, food and place to live in, and bore his testimony that the Lord has provided for his family. He said how often wished he had had the opportunity to go to foreign lands to preach the Gospel, and that the spirit of the Lord has told him that that opportunity would come if I strived to do the Lord's will. He mentioned how the Lord had blessed him and provided the way when struggles came up. He said he was thankful for the opportunity to stand and fight for the fullness of the Gospel. It is the little things in life that we still find to build a house upon: Hope, charity, Kindness, consideration, etc. We must steer clear of the things of Babylon--- cosmetics, clothes, etc. They originated in hell. I pray that we may prepare ourselves and cleanse ourselves to be used on earth, The time is coming when I will be taken away from my home. What will happen to my home and family: The time is coming when the Gospel will be preached: Men will go forth: It is shortly coming to pass. I want to be worth o the blessing of the Lord.
Brother Helmet Olschewski:
I want to bear my testimony and say I am happy for my parents and for my Mother. I hope that the time will come when I will be a man pliable in the hands of the Lord.
Brother Arnold Boss:
My brothers and sisters, I don't feel quite as shaky as the Olschewski boy, but I hope you will the same thrill when I get through that I had when he got through. I would rather hear a few words by the spirit of God than a long oratory. I have a testimony and I pray for a measure of the spirit of the Lord. I want to carry the truth to others. I am happy to be able to meet with you people. It 'has not so long ago when we use to meet in small homes, and now. We have a large home and the Lord has opened up the way. There is only one way this people can advance and that is to be holy end keep the Lord's commandments. I don't know of a more virtuous people than this group. Virtue and truth has its own testimony, and you do not have to magnify it in the presence of others. (he the n read an article that he cut out the paper, "The nation-·wide drive" Washington D. C., 7/24/42—Ass. Press. Police officials over the country have been celled. to stamp out prostitution, in order that the war, etc., does not stamp out this nation due to venereal diseases. My brothers and sisters, I don't know whether you people are familiar with it or not, that the greatest wave of death and destructions that has come over the country is passing over it today. It is the abomination that was spoken of by Daniel the Prophet which transpired again. The virtue o men has been trampled in the dust. It is almost impossible to bring an innocent child into the world through a pure channel. (He then spoke of how the world has become carnally-minded and devilish, and lost men have lost their virtue. When they have lost their virtue it is next to murder. ) One of the first things that the Lord revealed to the Prophet was how to stamp out these diseases. He instituted a law of marriage to eradicate the social evil. When you lose your virtue, then you become as weak as water. The General of he U. S. today says it is the great black cloud over America. We have nearly ½ million who have verereal deseases,. I tthank god today in your presence for the clean blood st4eam that they passed on to me., I have not had a sick day in my life. I thank God that I passed on good blood to my children, Our children are growing up to partake of Babylon. I see I every day in a way that I never dreamed I would see Let us be prayerful and humble I pray in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Solo: "The Lost Chord" by Rulon Jeffs.
Sister. G. T. Foota (of Ferron)
Spoke next and told how she learned about the group through her husband and how he read about the Gospel: How she rejoices in meeting with what the Prophet started, and in the days of the early prophets. We all need courage and strength. My husband asked me in a letter to come and visit with you people. I pray the Lord to bless you people and that we will have the courage to face the truth no matter what might come. The Lord told the Prophet, although you give your life, the time would come when you will be lifted up.. W must bear in mind that these trial and tribulations we pass though will come to an end. I pray God to bless us all with wisdom, in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Brother Marion Hammon:
Reported on visit with the Saints in northern Idaho. Told the story{ of H. C. Kimball advising his sons to get their stock to pay tithing, and he, in going among his horses, pointed. out the prize colt and told his sons to take that one to the bishop for tithing. When they objected and said that was the prize colt. But he still told them to take it. They objected again and he said. "take that colt down to the bishop before my heart shrivels up". I almost had my heart shrivel up when I was in Idaho---the rows o vegetables and grains looked good. Some of the Saints are blossoming and they are developing a desire to come to Salt Lake City: when I see the desires that they have, I expect them to come here. And I think it will be for their blessings and their good. We were received royally, and I would, if I were in their shoes, treat them the same. Now I will tell you how my heart nearly shriveled up. (then he told how, when he was in Idaho, his brothers brought out the red, blue and white ribbons they had won on their horses and it brought back memories of the good old days) I compared it all with what I have now. If I gruel my farm, it will lead me to eternal life. The things that I have are life and death to me. You might dream dreams, see visions, etc. , but you will carry in your heart day after day the vitality that carries you on, that puts virtue in your bodies. I have this remark to make to Dave. (Darger) he will be called. Away from his family not only for months but years. Some of you other men will go too. And some of you sisters will go. I know you sister appreciate them now or you could not endure it. Brother Rulon's song --- it was beautiful to me. When the spirit gives utterance, it is a thrill to me. I love to hear these young men bear their testimony. Bro Olschewski came here (Helmet) among strangers and he has a wonderful spirit and he will go on. We have a lot of beautiful young men. that is one of the convictions of my heart –their clean lives. We might be deceived by the lives of the people of the church, but we shake hand with these young men here today and we know what is in their hearts. You can go blindfolded and tell the handshake of the Saints of God. I feel that God ordained that handshake. When you get into the temple you will find out what I said is the truth. I often used to wonder how the early leaders o he church could tell real men ---the Saint from the sinner. It is just by the promptings of the spirit. About this enterprise of getting this home—I have never been in harmony with building a church for this people. This is not a day of building or us. We must to forth and build up the Kingdom of God. But it is time that we should not impose on the hospitality of the brother and sisters. We treat the homes like a church---Come in with dirty feet and out tramping it. But I feel that this is right for us. The brethren have asked the Lord to seal up the way. I am glad Uncle John (Barlow) had a home to entertain the Saints. I thrill ins the life of Brother John and Brother Joseph. Have they ever had a vacation from the work they are doing? Have you ever seen it ? No! They are working constantly for the Lord. I feel we should be liberal with what money we can. I know those feeling were strong in me in Idaho. There were times when things were tough. I tell you there are many times when I have wept at my own table because I knew some of you others do not have the same food to eat. I hope I can be big enough that I can contribute to the support of other families. I know if we put forth an effort we can pay for this place we are obtaining,. We want you to do your part. When Saints come from out of town, then that home can be used to house them until they can house themselves. I would feel just as good about contributing to buy a home for Brother Jeffs or anyone of you. It will grow into the United Order, and it will grow with every effort that we put that way. I think we should bear in mind that we have people down south. The effort in oneness of spirit here as they have down there. All have the same thing. It does not exist here. If one man takes time off here, I am afraid we would complain about it. Your people have got to grow a little bit to get to the place where they are in Southern Utah. The Lord has kept them poor. I prophecy in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ that those people in southern Utah will be regarded as the salt of the earth, and you will hear from them. Time is mighty short. I feel that we are ready more than we have ever been to receive the prophets on the other side. I bear you my testimony that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God and you will behold him and he will embrace many of you and he will work among many of you in closing up this dispensation: and those of you that receive him are going into the presence of your heavenly Father. In the days of Joseph there were not 20 men who would testify that he is a prophet of God. Those that will receive not his testimony will be dammed, and those who will receive him will do so and go into the presence of God. This I bear in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
My brothers and sisters, I can testify to the truth o what my brothers have said. I know they have been speaking under the inspiration of the spirit of God. I can testify as to Sister Foote's testimony. I can testify that Brother Foote, while he had aged and is had o hearing, he had the spirit of God. The people down there try to keep away from him. There has been a great deal said here today, and stop and think of what time we are living in. We are in the eleventh hour o the dispensation. Brother and sister, the time of the Gentiles is nearly full. It is only going to be a short time, until the Gospel will go into the house of Israel and the house of the God will be opened up to the Saints. Brother Woodruff got up once and said that it will be but a few years when famines and pestilences will spread over the earth. And he said that God had promised them that if the people will keep His commandment, that He will protect them if He had to send fire down. (He then spoke to Elijah and the 10 men on the hill). We have been told all the way down, to search the scriptures for in them you have eternal life. Even Christ himself was told to search the scriptures. Some say today, "will you be our judges?" No! The laws of God will judge you. Then if you have kept them you will be saved; If not, you will not. Brigham Young said life or death is set before you. If we choose life, we will go on and one. Death is to shrivel up --- the opposite. One will be saving; the other will cause us to go down to destruction. We have long looked for a house and a place to meet. As Brother Joseph said Brother De Yonge called me at 11:00 o'clock one evening and as soon as I saw the place, I knew it was for us. We have been having quite a time, but the brothers and sisters have been liberal. We expect it to be one thing that we will be owning in common. And if we keep on as we told you, It will be the united order before we get through Brothers and sister, if we had put our trust in the hands of God and Brigham Young. And united efforts, the saints would have owned Salt Lake City today. We have got to get this selfishness out of us. We have all got it in us. The Lord has said, if you are not equal in temporal things, you cannot be equal in spiritual things. If you take that one at a time, you can. We have among us men who are financiers, honest men who could make good finances. The men down south are working together. What one has, the other has. If one had something and another wants it, that brother would give it to him. I hope the time will come when we will not only live Plural Marriage, but the United Order too. It is pretty hard sometimes with big families that some of us have got. Now brothers and sisters, the Gospel is free. I often think of the poem of John Wesley (?) "Know this that every soul is free, To choose his life and what he will be etc" If your brother has odds against you, go to him and make it right, even if you did not do the injury. We will think just a little more of each other. God bless you Amen.
Joseph W. Musser: Just a suggestion---If any of you have some good furniture that you want to get rid of, do not give it away; give it to our new home. Just keep that in mind. If you have anything that you don't need, let us know. Brother D. W. Jeffs was appointed some months ago, upon whom the Saint may call to have Administration to the sick. You may call on others, But in order to keep you from bothering Brother Barlow 3 or 4 times a day, we asked and appointed Bro, Jeffs. The work is getting too burdensome for Brother Barlow. We have concluded to appoint Brother Martin to assist him. I want you to respect these men and if you will you will have no use doctors. I do not say this against Bro Rulon ( Allred) and doctors in our group. He is giving his strength and time for his profession. It is better for us to have that kind of help than to die, but it is better for us to go to the Lord, and take the Lord's remedies. So long as we are not perfect in our faith we have got to call on doctors. I feel to criticize our faith in the Saints. Lorin at one time blessed Sister Lucy and Sister Goulda. He had the gift o healing, but not to be healed. It has been promised in the name o the Lord, that if you will go to him and rely on him, and live the Gospel in accordance to the strength and wisdom in you, that you can be healed much easier and profitably than having to patronize the medical profession The same I say about lawyers ---do not go to them. If they are suing you for your coat, give it to them. Keep away from lawyers. We have a very good lawyer Brother Dockstader, when it comes to civil cases. Do not judge each other: the Lord is the best and the greatest and wisest. First call on Him and He will not let you down. God Bless You. I went to testify to you that the prophecy that Bro, Hammon gave is true. God Bless you Amen.
Closing Song: "Let Us All Press On"
Benediction: Brother Carl Fischer.
LJ.Allred.
9 August 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. Held at the Priesthood Home, 2157 Lincoln Street, Salt Lake City, Utah
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, August 9, 1942 Held at the Priesthood Home, 2157 Lincoln Street, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.
1st Song: "Come Come Ye Saints" Prayer: Brother D. W. Jeffs. 2nd Song: "Do What Is Right"
Brother Roy Johnson:
My brothers and sisters, I am glad to be here today. I am glad to partake of the spirit that is here and I hope and pray that the Lord will bless me with His spirit that I may say something of benefit to your: You have come out to be fed he bread of life. I traveled all night last night and I look a bit sleepy. We started out and had a flat tire and then another, and then finally another. Then we lost a tire and we borrowed one and come on in on our trip. Sometimes the old devil is permitted to hinder us form coming to these meetings, but if we make up our minds we will get here. Ie is quite a long trip form Cedar City up here, but we feel like we are going through a schooling. You can put your children in the school room and form one day to the next you cannot see much change, But at the end of he school year you can see a change in the child., that is the way we feel about these meetings., We get the bread of life. The lord told the Prophet that except he obey the law of plural marriage he would be dammed together with his people. It is the responsibility upon us. If we understand the principles of salvation we are expected to teach them to our neighbors. It is our mission --- to teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ. There is no place better than these meetings where we can learn, where men called and set apart by God are here to teach these people,. that is the only way you can get it--- by coming and being instructed. We feel that we are growing and that we are greatly paid for coming out. A week ago today we had the privilege o attending a meeting of the Saints down South and we held a good meeting. The brethren down there expressed themselves as being in harmony with us. Several of them had received letter from Brother Musser concerning this building and sent word that they would send in the money and that it was coming. that is the right spirit. Two months ago today a committee was appointed to look for a place for Uncle John to live in and this is the result of it, and a down payment is made. We are here and we are going on with it. A more united people you cannot find today than we are, or we would not be here. About 6 or 7 years ago the Lord's spirit moved upon the body of Priesthood and we came down to Short Creek and they instituted what we called the United Order. And the Lord told His servants that if they would perfect that organization that there would be no power under heaven that would stop them. We profited for a while, then selfishness stepped in and it looked like the finish o it. But a few have kept on and there are some who are still living it. The Lord has got to have a people that will stand up and say that they know Jesus is the Christ: for he had go to have men her on earth who will carry out His laws and ordinances. I don't know when I have felt better in the Gospel than I do today. It is wonderful to have people as we see them that come out and partake of the spirit. It makes me feel that I wish I could express my thoughts as I feel them. It is hard for me to remember what I read, and hard for me to say what I feel. I am glad to be here, and I bear my testimony that the Gospel is true and we are striving o live the laws that God has given us. I ask God's blessings on us in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Joseph W. Musser; Sometime we are going to take you to the third floor above here: there is a room enough there to seat 3 or 4 hundred people. We have not done much to the house yet, or the grounds, because in a month room now we want you to see how much it has improved. This is the first Priesthood home that we have been given and the Lord has given it to us. The first floor is occupied by Brother Barlow (J. Y.) and family: The second floor will be rented out to help pay for the home: and the third floor will be our assembly room. It will be ready in about a month. Of course, we have to do this work ourselves, and it will take some time to put this home in readiness. I am reminded that this home was built by John W. Young, and apostle of the Lord. He was counselor of Brigham Young. This was a farm home, beautifully cultivated with fruit trees and wonderful vineyard in its day. Brigham Young built a somewhat similar home in Forest Dale. When I first moved fro the city to Forest Dale, there were very few homes there, and Brigham Young's hom was used or meetings at that time. It is still standing and is about one mile southwest from here. These walls are about two feet thick. It has a wonderful basement and has compartments in it. It has a heating system, electric blower, automatic gas water heater, etc. This paper on the walls here is linen paper (cost about $10.00 a roll). Otto Olschewski had been cleaning it up and putting it in shape. I mention that because I want you to know what kind of work they did. This had been well taken care of. It is a house of comfort. We have made the first payment and our next payments will come at the rate of $50.00 a month, which we expect the apartments to take care of. There are four bath rooms in the house, two upstairs and two down stairs. There is enough room on the north o this house to build two other homes. We have a perpetual water right. This land is rich soil; you can tell by the elm trees that skirts from east to west: those trees were being planted in 1894 – elm and ash to the east. They are worth $25.00 a peace at their age and size. When the grounds are fixed up we will have a place to be proud of. There is about $1000.00 worth of work to be done. The furnace is burned out and we have to have a new one. Some plumbing will have t o be done. We expect a plumber about the first of the week to fix this floor and the apartments. We are going to put in a stairway from this up through this floor to the third floor. The stairway is now too narrow. The brethren are going to start work on it right away. So we are going to have to have some more money. The Lord doesn't beg for money, and it is the hardest thing in the world to ask for money. The Lord gave us this home and we asked Him for it to take care of our needs. Since we saw this home we knew it was for us and we have paid $800.00 on it to the present; that shows how faithful the saints are. And now we have got to raise another $1000.00 in time, and have a great many promises. The real estate man who sold us this home handed me $50.00 as his contribution. He is not one of us ( our group) but he has the spirit of this work. We have outgrown all the homes that the Saints have been kind enough to allow us to use, and we are going to outgrow this home before long, and the Lord is going to move us from one place to another until He takes us to the Tabernacle---we are going from here to the larger buildings until we go into the Tabernacle where our voices in proclaiming the truth will shake these everlasting hill! I tell you that in the name of the Lord! The voices of our elders are going to shake the earth: This is just another step forward. The lord has been mighty good to us. You brethren and sisters know this is the work of God. You know there is no question about it. There is no other people on the earth so far as God had revealed to us that is so God fearing. You women are virtuous and pure in your lives. You do not find a people like that in the world. You men folks would suffer your life to be taken from you before you would take a woman's virtue. You do not find those things in the world. It is common in Babylon to be untrue to the laws of virtue. True, there are virtuous men and women in Babylon; we are in the midst of it. But you brothers and sisters have come out in purity and you have the element of life in you. that is the reason why God is favoring you at the present time This is the nucleus come out o the church to do the work. You are the people that Brigham Young. Newel K. Whitney, spoke about. They said a nucleus would come out of the church to keep the higher principles o God alive and carry on this work until the Savior will come. Now is it any honor be these special people? I of course it is. We are all in poverty, yet the Lord has blessed us with the promise of life and salvation. that is the greatest promise in the world. Like Brother Brigham Young said, we are suffering sometimes. Why? that we might be purified and pre pared for a greater life of usefulness. We have the judgments among us to bring us closer and nearer to the Lord, for all that live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution and shall have salvation,. We will know that by the fact that we are being persecute. We have been cast out by the church. We have had our so-called friends shun us. Yet we are still in the church. It is the Church of Jesus Christ and it has not been rejected. We are to work and keep it up that it might come into its own again. We are or the church. I have been asked how we differ from the church,. We do not differ at all except that we believe in all the principles of life and salvation, while the church has displaced some of the ordinances by the men of the church. I rejoice in the movement. The Lord has been might good to us. It is the first home that we have had that we can use for the purpose that this is being use for. We have one on Third Avenue. We are working toward the United Order, for the time when the Lord will come and have the United Order setup in its fullness. We are working to get the spirit of United Order. Brother Barlow said that today we have not tasted yet of the troubles that we will when the United Order is started. Why? Because it effects our pockets, our jealousies and selfishness. Yet it is through that order that we can be exalted in the presence of Father We cannot got to Jackson County without living the United Order. Some are trying to live it in spirit. This is one step in this direction. God bless you. Every dollar that you give in this home to the Lord, two dollars will come back to you, promise you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Charles F. Zitting;
I am indeed very happy to be here with you people and I ask an interest in your faith and prayers. There are so many things that have come to my mind this last week that I do not know which one to take up. I would like to take them all , but I know I will not have the time. I hardly know where to start. The thing that impresses me most today is the things that are coming upon us. This place will do us for a time, but not for long because people will come running to us. We must ask you people to do what you can to prepare ourselves for what is coming a few months from now. I do not mean a year or two years: You are going to find it very hard to get something to eat. We worry about tires this year, but in another year you will worry about something more than that --- it will be something to eat. The government is grabbing all the food and sending it out to different nations and soldiers on the fighting front. Millions of tons of food are going out. They are drying it and sending it out in train loads because they can send more at a time that way. One hundred pounds o potatoes when made into potato flour weighs only eleven pounds. In addition to the enormous milk and grains, and cereals and etc. the U. S. has a program to send out ten million tons a year,. You are making money today, but if you put it in the bank today that money will not buy much in a few months,. So spend that money for days that are coming. You are going to worry more about food than you are about tires now—I prophesy that in the name of the Lord, Amen.
Brother Maron Hammon:
I am reminded o the time when I was 16 years of age and I experienced my first division of a ward. I wondered what they would do in the new ward—where the people were coming from. that is the way I feel about this place. We do not expect it to be the eternal meeting place for the Saints. I would be disappointed if we are meeting upstairs a year from now. Maybe then I will not be. If the Lord leaves this home with Brother Barlow all his life I expect his children to be playing upstairs. (Told of the days of Nauvoo when the Lord told the people to prepare a home for in-comers and travelers. ) I feel that we are indeed blessed with this home. You brother and sisters have a lot of work ahead of you: you brethren are going to be very busy. People that are the busiest have more time to do things than those who have less to do. I recall in my life when that has been true. You sisters, I encourage you to encourage your husbands. There is nothing so stimulating as a wife encouraging her husband. ( Spoke of the example of his first wife.) If you are always discouraging his activity it will not be long before he will be weaned away. I am grateful or the opportunity to assist in this place. It is said that orderliness is next to godliness. I feel that we should all take an interest in this place: getting the lawn watered and cut. We should all encourage our children to be thoughtful of the hedge and shrubs. I am going to encourage my children to take care of the place. I know I was destructive in my young days. We must teach our children to take care of everything there We must try to impress it upon their mind. We set ourselves up as being the Saints of God: that you brothers and sister are still in the church. But many of the member of the church are true Saints too. They have the Tabernacle and can afford to keep up the ground: but this place is going to be known as the "polygamous home" and they will have their eyes on us and this place. We must groom this place and make it a good home to look upon. We must make this our fond hopes of attainment,. (He cited Fred Cleveland's home as a respectable home to look upon where the group had met of meetings --- a polygamous home ) The Latter-day Saints depend upon the blessings of the Gospel to come through the Lord Jesus Christ. I doubt that there are those who would not grant President Grant the opportunity to stand in this home today if he would uphold the principles o God. My faith is we are going back to the church --- be amalgamated with the church that church will come to us. that is my faith. I am anticipating that as much as I am anticipating the United Order. It is not in my disposition to go along establishing churches her and there. I believe that we belong to the Church of God, and I believe we are the ones that will be called in the presence of the prophet. I expect to see a good many people come out o the world. I am glad to see as many here gathered out. Many who come will not bring their furniture and possessions. They will come with tears in their eyes and blood dripping from their feet, as the early Saints did. (He then advised us to tell our friend that we correspond with of the coming events and warn them to come out) If you study the history of this church you will find that thousands o people came from the European countries. This valley is the place designated by Brigham Young as the gathering place of the Saints. I say Amen to any man's labors who gathers from the outer parts. We should be thankful that we can dispense with our means in a cause of this kind (this home). Every dollar spent here will be to a good cause. John Y. Barlow has spent all his life laboring for the Lord. We should be happy to make his family comfortable. I pray that we might have a time o rejoicing in this place---of feasting that will make our hearts glad. I feel to acknowledge the hand of the Lord and his blessing. I am out of debt and I am thankful to the Lord. I pray God that I may be able to keep it so. It is only men with a full purpose of heart that will keep it so. It is only men with a full purpose of heart that will accomplish His desires. I hate the things that pertain to Babylon. I ask the Lord to bless us to help us carry out this program, in the name of Jesus Christ Amen. I feel strongly impressed to say that in proportion to the efforts set forth to keep this place beautiful, in that proportion will they be blessed who bless this place and bless us. You folks all own this building and you all are members of the Priesthood Group, and if you magnify faith and one virtue, in coming on this property in solemnity, and keep it sacred in spirit, we will be blessed accordingly.
Brother John Y. Barlow;
My brothers and sisters, we have heard a great deal today and it put me in mind of what Brigham Young said to Joseph Smith and others of the Apostles told him. "Never spend another dollar or dime for Babylon, but spend it in the building up of the Kingdom of God". Let us spend our money for the work of the Lord. I know this work is true, and I know these brethren sitting by me today have the authority that they say they have. I know that. Many of the other brethren here have been with them and know wherein they spoke it was true. When I was set apart in this work I said, " Are you doing this because I am your friend ?" He said, "I had nothing to do with it whatever. God told me to set you apart". I want to bear my testimony to you that I did go to the Lord as I was told to do and I got my testimony. God did set these brethren apart to do this special work and to see that these principles were kept alive. God never reveals in any day or age non-essential. When God reveals a law He give it to you because it si essential. Because we are believing these things we are being scoffed at and ostracized and cast out: we are called apostates. I know this much, that the said "If you are ashamed of me I will be ashamed of you" In regard to this place --- I do not want a foot of ground that the Lord does not want me to have. I like a home, I like to be comfortable, but what I want to do is the work of God and that will save the souls of men. Brigham Young said that when you get to a place where you cannot go any higher then you start to go down. The Lord said that there are three degrees o glory in eh celestial Kingdom and in order to attain the highest you must obey my laws. I you do not you cannot have an increase. I went to tell you that every one of you that come into this place and help with that United Effort Plan, you will be blessed. Brigham Young said, "Brethren get your property in a trust so the Gentiles will not take it away from you." What is the result today---85% o he homes here have been taken by the Gentiles. The people of this city are in perpetual shame because of what they have done. The only way out is to keep and live the commandments of God. Many have said this is the best people I have ever known, but I want to tell you again that we are not good enough. We are not ready yet for the one Mighty and Strong to come here. It is not meat in the sight of the Lord with out they comply with the law. Now how is it with the church today? You cannot hold an office in the church if you comply with the higher laws. (Told the story of the purse again) If God said you must obey a certain law and a man won't let you, who is responsible for it? Why the man who keeps you from it is responsible . Golden Kimball said "I am not worried whether I get in the Kingdom of God, but the location in the Kingdom worries me". God bless you, and keep on the work you are doing. Don't expect that you won't get some knocks. The Lord said, "He that lives godly in Christ Jesus shall receive persecution". God bless you. Amen.
Closing Song: "Hymn o Praise" Benediction: Bro Ed Christensen.
LJAllred.
23 August 1942
Meeting. Held at the Priesthood Home 2157 So. Lincoln Street
Minutes Sunday Afternoon, Meeting August 23, 1942, Held at the Priesthood Home 2157 So. Lincoln Street, Salt Lake City, Utah. at 2:00 p.m.
Brother Joseph Musser: presided and conducted.
1st Song: "Proud, Yes of Our Home in the Mountains" Prayer: Brother F. Newbolt. 2nd Song: "Nay, Speak No Ill"
Announcements: Shower for Bonnie Zitting August 24, 1942 at her home. Fast meeting to be held' here two weeks from today, September 6, 1942, at 2:00 p.m.
Brother Marion Hammon:
It occurred to me this morning in Sunday School that there are some things that it would be necessary to speak about this afternoon concerning this building. How many of you brethren are ready to try to live the United Order? How many are ready to help keep he Kingdom of God rolling along? Bro Jeffs and Bro Lyman have been here night after night, and all day long. Bro Jeffs has been here from early to late, working on this building to get it in order and complete it so we can have meeting upstairs. We need men to do this job. (He then went on and asked and encouraged the brethren to come out and give their time to getting the building into condition for proper use) We are supposed to talk the Gospel, but this is the Gospel How much work do the brethren do when they are working on a project in raising crops, etc? Unless we can get busy and repair and fix this building, we cannot expect the Lord to bless us further. It is the United Order. Helping Bro, Sturm is the United Order, and that is the Gospel to me. I fell the Lord has blessed this people. I feel that the blessings of God are being poured out upon us. I am telling you people in the name o the Lord, if you do not help out on this place and improve it and go to it with your might, you will never get passed this house; I promise you in the name of the Lord that you will never get into the Tabernacle. As your were promised two weeks ago by Joseph, if you do not prepare this place. that is my solemn testimony. We will never get into the Celestial Kingdom without complying with the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. We have got to comply with those laws to feel the burning of the spirit of the Lord in our bosoms. You might be passing over a bad road, but that is the time when we made our strides ahead: that is the time when we will go forward. Many of you men stand under covenant with each other that you will lend your time and talents to build up the Kingdom of God. Now the call is come. I feel it is an opportunity and blessing. I rejoice in the disposition those of the brethren have displayed; I rejoice in the integrity of Bro Jeffs, and Brother Lyman. We have women here to work in the Gospel. No man will preside over a house that does not preside over the persons in it. The best way to get a friend is to be a friend. There has been enough said about this place that the eyes of the whole city are upon it, and I mean those who are influential in it., There had been enough happen to it. The Church authorities have tried to destroy our credit. Thank the Lord we have had the means to go ahead and buy with cash; our names are being saved and also our reputation. I feel that our case is as sure as it ever was. Our course is right and our religion is as true as that we are here. God has offered this Kingdom to the people o the earth ever since Joseph Smith. We find Brigham Young, Heber C. Kimball etc. laid down their possessions for this work and they never wanted for anything. I promise you in the name of the Lord that if you will take care of the Lord, He will take care o you! If you will do everything you can to go forth and build up the Kingdom, that you will never want for bread., If you are slack with the Lord in good times, the Lord will not be with you when you need him,. I bear my solemn testimony that this work is true and I say it in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother D. W. Jeffs:
My brothers and sisters, I feel very humble in standing before you this afternoon. Though I believe the Priesthood is directed by the inspiration of Heaven, I say it matters not who speaks as long as it is called of the Lord, and it will be the counsel of the Lord to those who hear. My name has been mentioned today, but Joseph Smith said "Do not magnify your acts before men for people will see your acts and magnify what has been done. I have come down to this building with one purpose in view- to get it in condition for the Priesthood Council was inspired to buy this home. (He then spoke the work he had been doing, how he had learned many more things than he knew in working in the place, of the help that he needed, how hard the men had been working who came, etc.) We must all become one. "Be ye one, as the Father and the Son are one" (Then he spoke of how the Savior prayed for his twelve friend and all the Saint that would come unto Him, and the magnificent prayer that he offered.) We all have our weaknesses, but we must repent of our sins and be humble. How near are we one? How near are we living the truth an being one in spirit so that the inspiration of heaven is guiding and directing us? In Sunday School we had a most beautiful lesson on being one in attributes—having the same attributes of God. The Father and the Son are one in attributes. How are we going to be one? Can we be one if we are full of hate, selfishness, jealousies, etc? Brother Barlow has said we are a good people, but we are not good enough. How are we going to become one that the spirit in us can have power over the flesh? When the spirit gives in to the works of the flesh, then the devil has no power over both the flesh and the spirit. If we can live nearer the Lord and reach out to the ways of the truth, that our bodies and ourselves are prepared, that the attributes of God may come and dwell with us then we can realize how to get the spirit of god and keep it. "There is a law, irrevocably decreed in the heavens before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated". (D& C 130:20) Law is controlled by law. Evil is controlled by law too. Evil cannot bring forth good fruit. There are a lot of mighty good people. (Told the story of a boyhood chum whom he met on the street recently, and who accused him of apostatizing.) (the then spoke of the time he was called on a mission and how he prayed and fasted to get the witness and testimony of it, and spoke of the same of his missionary experiences.) After my mission I had a witness and testimony that I was to enter the patriarchal order of marriage, (He said to his chum) and I testify to you that I have a stronger testimony than I ever had before He did not know what to say. At times I have gone along and the spirit would tell me as a sermon and the burning came to my breast that it was true. Forty – two years ago I was told that I was required to enter into the law of plural marriage. It was like a sledge hammer had struck me on the head, it was so forceful. We did not have the Priesthood Council to direct us then, and I went to John W. Taylor, and he instructed me. It came from heaven. I was told in answer to prayer just what to do. "Every tree you shall know· by the fruits thereof what it is." When I have children who have entered into the patriarchal law, I can understand why. Did I have pleasure in it? Yes. Did I have trials in it? Yes. I was told at the time I entered the law to magnify it. No one I worked with knew about it. The time come when the Priesthood Council comes out and we preach it and sustain it, not by word of mouth, but by abiding it. As true as I live, when my old grandmother appeared to me when I was too small to get the message, it was to direct me in the work of the Lord Jesus Christ. There are many experiences I have passed through. When I teach my own children and I have that burning in my breast, I know it is true. .And when I know that message reaches them and a burning comes in their breasts, it such a wonderful feeling. I know that the Gospel is true and it is the power of God unto salvation to those who live it. (He then commented on the song, "Nay, Speak No Ill") I have a witness and testimony of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. I have a witness and understanding of who my Father is; I haven't a knowledge of it. I feel when :I pray that I am praying to Michael our Father end God. If we can only develop and improve; how many of us take an inventory of ourselves? How many say they will strike a balance? One says I am selfish and I am going to stay that way. All that person doe s is harm himself. I am glad to be associated with you brothers and sisters; that as my patriarchal blessing says, I can be in the presence of kings and queens. When I was lying on my back recently afflicted in my leg, Brother Joseph came and gave me a blessing, and from that day hour on I was healed. God bless you, I ask in the name of Jesus Christ, .Amen.
Song: "The Lord Is My Light" Special Prayer for Brother George Kalmar -by Bm. James Martin.
Tenor Solo: "The Old Rugged Cross" by Bre. Alfred Olschewski.
Brother Charles Zitting;
It there is any time that I would rather speak it is at the end of this song that we just heard. When Brother Hammon was talking to you about the building here the thought came to me of those who will get joy out of this building. It brought me back to the time when I was fixing my home in Cottonwood. We were extending the water line; I had to spend a whole summer's time working with some of my friends. that was about 12 years ago. Every time I turn on that water tap I rejoice in it is mat is going to be the case in this building. I know it is not going to be completed without my doing my share, if it is "the will of the Lord. They are going to see that it is done right. There are a great many in this house that has spent money on building meeting houses for the Church, but this is the first privilege you people have of working for this group. I feel that the Lord will bless you and your families, us and our families. It is what we do in making our choices through life. It is not what we say, it is what we do. As that song (The Old Rugged Cross) was being sung, I saw the life of the Savior; the humble life He lived and finally was nailed to a cross with two thieves. is His choice, and what has His work accomplished. Outside of Adam, it has accomplished the greatest things on earth-the atoning for the sins of the world. I also saw our fore fathers of this country who established this free land so that the Gospel could be established in this free land. I pictured their bones lying in this free land. what have they given us? Then I saw the old wagon wheels What did the pioneers give us? They gave us plenty. "Shall the Youth of Zion Falter?" Let us try and do our share in a humble way of life. We do not have to talk about it. It 'will leave its marks to be seen in the years to come. It will leave prints in the sands with a work following it as the works of Brigham Young blessed us. It will bring a lot. that is my testimony to you in the name of Jesus Christ Amen.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
Then commented on the fact that Bro Jack De Land and his wife and child were here from Canada and how Aunt Susie (Barlow began a correspondence with him whole she was living down south.
Brother Jack De Land;
Spoke next and expressed how he was to be here in Utah with the Saints and asked for the blessings of the Lord to be with all.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
I think we have had pretty good sermons up to now. I want to mention Brother Lyman, Brother Jeffs, and Brother Otto Olschewski. They have been faithful and to this job (the house), and of course there are many others. Ianthus (Barlow) took charge of this front yard, fixing the hedge and lawn, etc. and he has other work to do which I think he can get around to do. I have been here several times and I find a lot of the brethren working. My time is taken up largely to raise the money to pay for these bills. We haven't yet repudiated one of our accounts We have had money enough to take care of them up to date. If the brethren and sisters continue in that respect, I have no doubt that we will get through. And we will have a meeting place at a cost much smaller in comparison to the cost of the Church's meeting houses. We are going to get through. all right We have spent a lot of time talking about this house today. In just a few moments I want to talk about ourselves, our salvation and exaltation. We were asked. what our purpose of life before us was that we have urging us on. The purpose of life is to seek joy and happiness in righteousness. "Man is that they might have joy". Doe s that mean temporal joy? No. How can we get joy; through what course of study can we properly obtain this object that we are after? It is to engage ourselves in the building up of the Kingdom of God. I want to leave that thought with you. Everything that we do, every dollar we spend, every taught that we have should be instigated with the feeling that we are building up the Kingdom of God. You wives, met are you doing? It is your duty to build up the Kingdom of your husband. is the greatest joy you can get out of life. The greatest blessing that a man can get out of life is to spend his time building up the Kingdom. of God. Every act he does will bring him. peace, because when he gets that Kingdom perfected, he becomes an important part of it, he has not dropped out. He is the Kingdom-a part of that great organization that will go on through the eternities to magnify God; and in magnifying that he magnifies himself. The wife can adorn herself only by living those laws that she and her husband has covenanted with God to live. Should a man love his wife first? No He should love God and the principle o life and salvation first. A wife that will not magnify her husband in that respect is not worthy of him: She can never worlds without end go into the Celestial glory with a fullness of crown. Men must not bestow their affections unduly upon women and they should love the Lord first and love their wives only as they strive to keep the commandments of the Lord. Sometimes our sisters feel a little offended when we tell along these lines. Sometimes the brethren say "I worship that woman" Of course that is an extravagance. We worship God the Eternal Father, not the women, and by worshiping God and magnifying our callings and keeping our covenants, that woman, will be given to us through time and eternity. We have her now on conditions, but God has not placed that seal upon it yet. Don't you men think we have any wives and seal: And you women your husband: For God has not yet sealed that testimony. that is when we have overcome all evil and are pre pared to say "Thy will be done not mine", then you will have husbands that you have now. But there are cases where we will lose out when we haven't been faithful and true. We will appreciate the time you brethren can give. Do the best you can. that is all we can do and expect --- the best we can. Bro Hammon had a big job here and he is going to accomplish it, Because this is the Lord's work. God bless you. Amen.
Closing Song: "God Speed the Right"
Benediction: by Otto Olschewski:
LJAllred.
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13 September 1942
Meeting. at 2:00 p.m
Minutes of the Priesthood Meeting held Sunday September 13, 1942, at 2:00 p.m. at the new Priesthood Meeting house, Salt Lake City Utah.:
Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conduct
First Song: "For the strength of the Hills" Prayer: Brother Joseph Jessop of Millville, Utah 2nd Song: "Prayer is the Soul's Sincere Desire"
Brother Barlow:
Brethren and sisters, we have people here from Arizona and some from Idaho and scattered around. We would like to hear from Brother Jensen of Cache Valley.
Brother Esley Jensen: "
I am quite overcome, my dear brethren and sisters. I didn't expect to be called on today. I can say that I am certainly pleased and happy to be here to mingle my voice with yours and to feel the good spirit that you all manifest. I think this is a wonderful feat that we as outcasts have accomplished thus far, and I feel to give the praise and honor to our Heavenly Father to think he has called men and endowed them with the Holy Priesthood and they have seen fit, and has opened the way for them to get a building of this kind where we can meet and praise our Heavenly Father. I think every individual here certainly ought to thank our Father in Heaven for the opportunity they have had of assisting in this work. As I remarked when I came up the stairs this place won't last us very long, and I hope it doesn't -not more than for six months. We should expand and pull together, and I say if we will pull together, there is nothing we can't accomplish. The Lord is willing to give us everything for our good, and this is for our good that we might bring souls together, and by our example and precept we can do this if we are as one. We have been ostracized from the Church and therefore we are not excused from any principles of this Gospel, from the least to the greatest. Some people say, 'Yes, I believe in polygamy, but not right now.' Yes, we believe in plural marriage and are not ashamed of it. We believe in every principle --in the law of tithing. If we don't we had better, or we will not get the blessing. We are not excused from tithing because we are not in the Church. We have taken upon ourselves that obligation. 1. cr.inp;. If we don't, we had bett.er, or we will not get the blessing. We are not excused from tithing because we are not in the Church. We have taken upon ourselves that obligation. We are supposed to love one another, and I can't conceive or a congregation that loves One another more than this congregation, and I hope we will let our light shine so that other people will look to us and envy us and wish to be in the same place. My heart is full, and I am thankful that I have the confidence of my brethren and sisters. Let us try to preach the Gospel every day of our lives! in our work, and let our light so shine that others may see we are striving to glorify our Heavenly Father. We need others help and counsel and direction and visitors from the other side to teach us many things we would like to understand. Let us support our brethren and make them feel that we are one with them. "I don't feel to say any more, but it surely does me good to see a hall of this kind. I was here a month ago today, and when I came today, I hardly knew it was the same place. Even the grass has been blessed. A month ago it was dry and today it is nice and green. The lot has been cleaned up, and what a wonderful meeting place we have where we can come and receive counsel from our brethren during these times when men's hearts are failing them for fear. My heart aches for some men because they haven't got the courage to stand up for the right. Don't let us be ashamed of the Gospel of Christ. We have made covenants in sacred places that we will obey Him that owns all. We might think that we are rich, some, but we are not in worldly things because they all belong to the Lord. He gives them and he can take them away just as easily. Let us not let our neighbor and those around us go without. Let us remember that great commandment to "love the Lord with all our heart and our neighbor as ourselves'. Who is our neighbor? Let us not pass up anybody we can help. Let us prove that we do love the Lord by showing that we will serve him. This is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ Amen.
Brother Richard Jessop:
"I feel much as Brother Jensen expressed himself in the beginning of his remarks. There have been a few straggling thoughts pass through my mind while he was speaking. He mentioned the development that has taken place in this particular building and surrounding effects in the last month or so. The thought occurred to me -what might be accomplished by this body of people if we individually would take ourselves in hand and renovate ourselves and our methods of thinking, as has been exemplified by the work done on this building. These things to me seem very vital. I was also thinking of the times that have been in the past in this dispensation when the saints have rallied time after time and the Spirit of the Lord would work on them to extra exertion. I am thinking particularly of 1833 when Joseph the Prophet writing from Kirtland to the saints in Missouri when he declared unto them that if Zion would not prove : herself, God would seek another people. It makes me shudder in my shoes when I think of the chances for me --whether it applies to you or not that we might lose some of the courage that is in our hearts, for we can see by repeated examples how the promises of the Lord have been made definite through His prophets that they should receive if only they would open their hearts to receive, and how often He has found it necessary to find another people, and that is what is bothering me today --will we be permitted to receive the blessings that the Lord has in store for the faithful saints? The time is getting short, and it rests upon us. There are many others from whom you would be glad to hear -the Priesthood in our midst -and I pray the blessings of the Lord will be on us in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Carl Holm, Sr.
from Idaho: "Brothers and Sisters, I am surely surprised to be called on to say anything. I feel glad to be in your midst, to partake of the spirit that abounds with you." He expressed himself as being thankful he received the Gospel in the old country, he had been a savior to his family in earthly matters and hoped and prayed he could truly be a "Savior" to them in spiritual matters, also. He said that some of the members of his family had accepted the Gospel in its fullness, and he hoped and prayed the rest would, also
. Brother Roy Johnson: " My brothers and sisters, I am happily. surprised as well as thrilled to be here today, and I hope that the Spirit of God will rest upon me that I may say something that will be encouraging to you and will help me. We can't help but remark on the wonderful improvement that has been made on this hall in the past thirty days. With all the other work that our men have been doing, I think they have accomplished a great thing here in this building and we appreciate it and I believe the Lord is pleased with you for being united enough and determined enough to get a suitable place (as suitable as we can under the circumstances) to worship Him in, and this is only a starter of what this people can do, and it is only a starter of what the Lord expects of us and the time is here when we have got to unite together if we stand. I picked up a paper the other night and I read something like this: 'We must either sacrifice comfort or suffer defeat in our nation.' Well, that's what we are up against, my brothers and sisters. we have got to sacrifice the comforts of this world, or what we have been calling comforts, and rally ourselves together and serve the Lord and keep His commandments or we will suffer defeat and the suffering that these people will have will be deep if we don't keep the commandments of God. "I am glad to be numbered among this .group of people. I am glad that the Lord blessed me with a testimony of the Gospel that I have, and I am thankful to Him that my family is behind me and they have helped me to go on, and I ask God's blessings to be with you and to help us to realize our position here on the earth and to know that we have got to serve Him and keep His commandments, and I ask it in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Barlow:
Brother Lyman, I believe you can tell us as much about the difficulties we have had to go through as anybody
Brother Lyman Jessop:
"Frankly, I don't know what to say . Maybe I haven't had any difficulties yet. Maybe it would be better the sound of my hammer than the sound of my voice, but they have both been ringing here for quite some time. I have felt good in the work here, felt like it was a good thing a wonderful opportunity to show a little cooperation, and it brought to my mind many times a statement of Brother Lorin C. Woolley when he said one time that if twelve men would unite in all things that within five years the foundations of the state would tremble at their power, and I am convinced that statement is true -- if twelve men would unite in all things in (righteousness, Brother Joseph interrupts me but my thought is that wicked men wouldn't unite in all things as they would be double-crossing each other before very long --however, the Devil has a great determination, but that is the truth) --if they united in righteousness, they would make the state tremble and the world would tremble at the power of the people who will unite in righteousness. I thought last night (or almost this morning) when we were sweeping up --and there is no end to the dust we have here that we are now 'one up' on Bishop Curtis. He would have to take a step up to eaves drop now. We are on the 3rd floor --is that a little symbolical to your mind of the degrees of glory? You may have thought we were a long time accomplishing; anything, but if you could have seen here --even yet you can see a thousand angles there are to cover. We have worked here with the spirit of unity. Brother David Jeffs, Guy Musser and myself when we started off on this work asked the Lord for His help, and I believe we have been blessed. It lacks a lot of being finished as we hope it may be in the next few weeks. There is much to be done, and we don't want to finish the floor until it is all done, but we have made an effort to get the place as nearly ready as it is today, and I believe the Lord accepts of our offering because we have been diligent in putting forth our effort in getting the place ready. It was very difficult to cut the pieces for these little angles, and everywhere we look it presents a differ
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Brother Marion Hammon:
I wasn't expecting to be called today. The acoustics of this building are rather surprising. Brother Musser asked me to go back, and I could hear Brother Holm just as plainly back there as up here. I was marveling at the singing. There is a resounding in this room that makes voices sound good. This has really been a wonderful opportunity for the brethren to get together and become united. We have had a wonderful time here. I am-grateful £or the support of the brethren and sisters that have turned out and helped complete this room as far as it is done. Last night when I came here I was asked several times if we would meet here today, and I said "Sure we'll meet here tomorrow". It looked impossible --there was a hole here and the stairs were incomplete and Lyman's power saw{ was in the middle of the floor and the windows were black. Dave Darger's girls and some of the sisters from downstairs and Sister I. W. Barlow. Ed Christiansen and Otto Oleschewski took out the windows and the women cleaned them. A man or woman is never so ,happy as when they are working. I remember a lesson I learned in the Ward (I have told this several times before). The bishop said, will you go visit some saints?' He asked what night I could go, as I was busy doing something almost every night and he said that was the kind of people who will find, time to do things. There have been times when I couldn't find time to do anything, and I wasn't accomplishing anything. I have never been so happy as when I was busy. I was sick for three days and when I got over here one night I asked the brethren to administer to me and Brother Jeffs administered and I felt better right away and have felt better than I have for three or four years. "I know the Lord is blessing us and will bless us if we will but put forth the effort to do His work. I hope we will fill up the building and then move. I want us to grow and get out and do other things. We have accomplished this through the cooperation of the saints. Uncle John had to move due to circumstances in some other family, and we didn't know where he was going to go. When he tried to rent some place, they wouldn't rent to him, or sell to Brother Musser. So we decided to buy a place and a committee was appointed to buy a home. I guess since that day we have spent over a thousand dollars and in work and materials over $2,000, and we are still going and are any poorer today than we were then? Do any of you feel poorer? I feel richer than I have in weeks. "Now, I don't see why in the next six months we can't accomplish this again get another place somewhere smaller or larger or the same size --to put some of the other brethren in. l can't hardly look to a face here but what we have discussed the United Order. Now here's the day and time --it's here --you have asked for it and it's come. We want the brothers and sisters to rally forth, and it isn't too much to ask, because we all profess to be brothers and sisters. is what we are hoping and praying, for, and you can have it if you want it bad enough. You might say, 'Certain things have got to take place first.' If you will get ready, they will be ready. Any time these people get ready, the House of God will be set in order, and if this people won't get in order, the Lord will get another. I see a brother drop out and a new one come in almost every week. see a brother start to fade out on us, and you don't have to talk to him ten or fifteen minutes to see he is not the same as before. I just can't help but ponder and marvel at the trip the brethren took east. They have brought brethren and sisters here that are just as true as any among us. I know there are brethren there who will be prophets among us. The Spirit of God has told me. that 's the way the work of God moves on. In the days of Kirtland, the Prophet said if the saints did not rally as they should he would get another Church --and he did, from England, Ireland, Scotland, Holland, etc. They came here and turned out to be ready to build up the valleys of the mountains and most of them or their children apostatized and the Lord built up another people. that 's the principal of gathering --there is no principal more important than the spirit of gathering --this is necessary for our salvation. They must be gathered into the place where the Temples of God are built. And that is why the missionary work is so important. If one man spends all his days and only gets one saint, he will be blessed. And that rules for this people, and if this people never get a temple, you will tell by that they are not the Saints of God, because that temple work is just as important as life itself. 'No man or woman will ever enter into the presence of God without an endowment, and a woman will never get into the presence of God without belonging to a man holding the Priesthood. that's why the gathering is necessary. The Lord can't build up a temple in Czechoslovakia. Where is Zion? It is where the Priesthood is! And that is in the land of America. God himself has said that this land should be a land choice above all other lands. He designated this as the place where the saints should gather and this land will never come under a foreign power and God will manifest himself in this land, and if any man or woman doesn't feel to carry on the work of God, he is the loser. I love the statement uncle John frequently makes "If I get in the way of the Kingdom of God, will the Lord move me out of the way". I want to outline a program we have in mind, the Priesthood has given us permission to organize a little branch of the M. I.A. work. Maybe next Sunday we will announce it. Think it over and see if you want it. If you do, you can have it. Do you people with families think it is necessary for their development? We have facilities here now for dramas which are amazing. We have sufficient lighting facilities that we can fix up anything we need. I feel the Lord has blessed us, and I want to praise his name in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
" Chorus --"Jesus, I My Cross Have Taken"
Joseph W. Musser: I think when I asked Brother Jeffs how many people could get in here he measured his wife and said between three and four hundred. We have got about two hundred here today, but we can get a whole lot more here when we grow more. What we need now are more seats. We have purchased about 175 chairs and paid for them. A year ago we went into Montgomery-Ward and bought a hundred chairs. I didn't have any credit because my name was Musser, so we took Sister Zitting, who had credit. and the Priesthood bought and paid for then. Now it looks as though we will have to get some, but they said at that time they couldn't guarantee we could get any more chairs. We wanted to get 30 feet of wiring the other day but couldn't get it because we didn't have any priority. Now if you folks who are used to farm life and know what a farm is and shut your eyes and just imagine this was a barn loft, which it was when we came in. We left a little here to show you just what it was. We had to go up and brace it --72 cross braces and 36 joint ones, and then we put this ceiling on and all this work. When the painters and paper hangers get through with it as time goes on, this will present a much different appearance. but it is so much nicer than the old Bowery they had when Brigham Young came and the old Nauvoo there Bowery they had , there is hardly any comparison. Brother Martin gave us a clock, which I suggest be put on the wall. I have been edified. today. I was edified in the prayer. The Lord was asked to help us to draw in the wanderings of our mind. How many of us are today able to draw in the wanderings of our minds? How many of us are thinking of other things? A lot of things are praying on our minds at the present time. You know I am telling you the truth, because your minds have been wandering They will go and then come back and. come again. Then you know of the human difficulty we have. Joseph talked about it in his day. The 88th Section of the Doctrine & Covenants dwelt upon . When we come into a house of worship, we should come in there to listen and receive that which the Lord has to give us, and if we will do that , the Lord will edify us but we are still human and still weak and our minds still wander, and Brother Jessop in praying asked the Lord to bless us that we might draw in the wanderings of our minds and concentrate them upon the things of life and salvation. That's very important. It is a principle I 'wish we would all think: about and pray about. "There has been about 40 or more brethren and sisters here working on this house and there was only one person who could be here all day --6 :00 a 'clock in the morning until twelve at night --but all the others went to their work on their various jobs and after doing a good day's work would come here and Sister Suzie would cook their dinner here. They had 32 meals here. Some of the other sisters came at night or two and prepared the food for the brethren who came directly here from their work. This stairway had to be put in, because the back stairway is narrow and not sufficient to bring the people in. Now if the house were to burn down today or tomorrow, I want to leave this thought with you, it has performed a wonderful mission. It has brought together a group of people in cooperative spirit that have taken a step towards the law of consecration --towards the principle of united order about which we have talked so much. When brothers and sisters can come together under these circumstances and have made money contributions (we have spent over $1,000 in cash) and that has come from you brethren, largely, who have been working here many of you have contributed all of you have done the best that you could I am sure of that –so that if we only met here one day, the effort would have been justified because it has brought us together into a oneness of purpose. I recall clearly the history of the Temple in Nauvoo how they rushed the work night and day and had to have their lanterns end guns to work, and finally when they had finished the building and dedicated it and spent a day and a night in performing endowments they took all the sacred things out of it and the next morning were on their way across the river. that's the way they worked. God told them to finish that building, and they finished it, and then they left it because they had to and Brigham Young said when he saw it a few days after and stood on the other side of the river and saw the temple in flames he thanked God he had taken it unto Himself and did not permit the Gentiles to desecrate it any more than they had done. Now, that is the spirit that we have got to keep in our minds to work to. It's none of our business what God does with this building. He has placed it in our hands, and it is your building --it isn't our building, but it belongs to you to help to take care of, but it belongs to God and if He wants He can take us out. I remember Brother John Nuttle told us at one time he had worked hard for years to get a home and finally got one -a beautiful home. He raised the money and he dedicated the home and in dedicating it he asked the Lord that if that home would bring a curse to his family (he had fixed it up so that it was more pretentious than the homes here) --if it would bring pride into the hearts of his family, the Lord would take it from them And lo and behold that night it burned down. The Lord took him at his word and I heard him testify he considered that one of the greatest blessings that had come to his family. Now, is the spirit in which we must live the spirit of consecration. We get on our knees and dedicate and consecrate all that we have to the Lord we all do that --I have done it hundreds of times --and yet when the priesthood comes or someone who has authority and asks us for a dollar, we shrivel up. We get hold of our money bag and we hang on to it. It isn't only that way with a dollar, but it's that way with other material things that we have to do with. I recall J. Golden Kimball in one of the southern settlements with Brother Francis M. Lyman. Brother Kimball went there to ask for contributions for the Improvement Association. They were then asked to give 50! or $1.00 apiece to help the Era along, and Brother Lyman took up all the time and when just about ready to close asked Golden to get up. Golden got up and said 'How many of you are willing to die for the Gospel?' 'How many of you are ready to pay $1.00 for the Mutual Improvement Era? Now, you can do that after the meeting –come up here and Brother so and so will take your money. that is the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Mention has been made today of ostracizing us. We live in a peculiar age. Heber C. Kimball, Daniel Wells and others used to talk of a time when a choice people would come out of the Church to live the Gospel as an apostasy was eminent. These people would keep the spirit of the Gospel alive and accept the principles of the Lord. Well, now, because many of the people are trying to keep the Fullness of the Gospel alive, were doing and that were told to do --what John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff and Alonzo Snow and Joseph F. Smith told them to do -they are being ostracized and action is being taken against them and they are being cut off from the Church and therefore are forced into the situation we are in today. We have been asked not to go to the Sunday Schools and meetings. They don't like to see us there. Some of us ask questions and they don't like it. And so we have had to come out of the Church in that sense not that we are not with the Church (yes, the Church is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) --it belongs to Christ. It never did belong to man --it isn't like the Methodist or Baptist or Catholic this Church belongs to our leader, and we are just as much interested in it as any man or woman on earth. We want to build up and make it strong, but nothing can make a broken reed strong. We have got to have that reed replaced. Those who have apostatized from the fullness of the Gospel, who say that the principle of the gathering is not for these days. To the extent that we were from the paths of life, we have apostates. Those who said that the United Order is not to be lived are apostates to that extent. Those who say that the principle of plural or celestial marriage doesn't have to be lived -they are apostates. Some say it was Joseph Smith's mistake, and same say it wasn't Joseph's mistake but it was Brigham's mistake. Those people are apostates from the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, because that principle was one that was lived by God the Eternal Father as the only principle, or rather the cap-stone, principle that would enable us to get back into the presence of Father. It's eternal --it's got to be lived.. It's never been taken away by the Lord. The Manifesto was supposed to have stopped it in the Church but the Lord has never taken it away. He gave us that very clearly, and it is the truth, my brothers and sisters. No man can become a God in his own right without living that great and holy law. God Almighty lived it, Jesus Christ lived it, and Joseph Smith lived it and it has been given to us with that positiveness that it must be lived. Those who reject this covenant will be damned. Now. we are trying to keep these things going -- is our mission. Some say that we don't talk about anything but plural marriage. Well, we do. We talk about the Gospel --all the Gospel. We talk about repentance and I tell you today, my brothers and sisters, and I call you as a servant of the Living God to repent of your Sins, everyone of you and myself included. There's not one in this house today outside of the children who have not reason and cause to repent, and my voice is a witness unto you that you must repent and come unto God and live all the laws of the Gospel as far as God will permit you to do so, and there is no principle he ha s revealed that we can t 1ive. This is my testimony. It I love this people --I Love this work. I have been engaged in it over sixty years, and I know it's true. I know what I am talking about and oh, how my heart has pained at times to see how some of my brothers and sisters are placing themselves in a condition were the Lord can't bless them. It is up to us to place ourselves so that we can work out our salvation. It is up to each one of us. "I think Brother Grant made a statement recently he can't counsel along all lines but he thanked God that his children had been born under the principle of plural marriage. But, 'I can't counsel he said. 'You brothers and sisters will have to go ahead and use your own judgment. I have seen him time after time pick up the Doctrine & Covenants and say 'Everything in that book you have got to live up to', and then when two or three of us tried to do it, he cut us off the" Church. "Now, my brothers, let's don't get harsh in our feelings towards the brethren, the leaders, because they are fulfilling their mission, but our mission is to live the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ in its fullness, and if you don't do it, this is a testimony against you, and it is coming from a servant of the Living God. God bless you, Amen."
Brother John Y. Barlow: "
My brothers and sisters, I have been greatly edified and built up through the remarks of my brethren. Looking over the congregation now, I am wondering haw' many are here that were with us a few years ago. I can see a few fa.ces here that were with us a few years ago. When we used to go up to Uncle John Woolley and Lorin Woolley's, they would tell us of things – how the Savior and Joseph Smith came to their place and what he told them to do to keep this principle alive. I have heard those men testify to that many times. I have been called into their counsel and told of these things-tutored up. I used to live just a little way from Uncle Lorin Woolley, and I knew Uncle John Woolley, and I heard the neighbors say that Joseph F. Smith used to go up and visit with him. They said that Joseph thought a lot of him he went up and plead with him and plead with him. Yes, he did --he counseled with him, but he wasn't pleading with him as they thought he was doing. "We heard what Brother Jensen said to you -- we as a people had gone out from among the Latter Day Saints. I think you will find recorded in the Millennial Star where a people would be brought out from among the Latter Day Saints which would be the nucleus of the great Millennium. These people would live all the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Yes, we hear men say it isn't necessary to live those laws now. Do you think God ever dealt with non-essentials? I heard a man say here a short time ago, 'You can't live the United Order now' I said, 'Brother do you believe in God?' 'Yes'. 'Do you believe that God is a just God?' 'Yes.' 'Well, will such a Good give us a law that we can't live and condemn us for not living it --how could He be a just God? Things haven't changed any Didn't God give things from the beginning to the end? God knew how the people would do and He holds us responsible for living this law. He hasn't revoked any of them. Read the Manifesto and see what it does say -it says 'To whom it may Concern for political purposes. Does the Lord change for political purposes? He said his course is one eternal round --it stands there just the same. We can live it, or we can leave it alone. If we do, we will get the blessings, or we will not we will get the consequence. These are the things we should think of. I don't believe there is a better class of people any where than there are here, but I will say here that good as we are. we aren't good enough or we wouldn't have been called to repentance. Let us look back in our own life and see if that isn't a just call on us to turn and to serve God. This little group that has been here for the last month working, I never saw nor heard a cleaner, purer group of men than were working here. You could let your children or wives come here and you would never hear a 'word that you would be afraid to let a child hear. Can you find such group o men anywhere else? You that are here know that our latter day saint men even use a curse nearly every other word. that 's what you get. 'By their fruits shall ye know them. that 's what we are going to be judged by. "I don't feel like saying much this afternoon, but I feel like telling you if you will keep on in the course you are keeping, it will be but a short time when there will be no rich nor poor among you. Brother Joseph touched on another thing. He said it was our business to see that these laws are kept alive. is the calling of these men here --to see that these laws that God has revealed are kept alive. Some have said -'Do you expect to be President of the Church?' 'Do you expect to be the "One Mighty and Strong"? ' No , of course we are not the 'One Mighty and Strong.' God is going to send the 'One Mighty and Strong', and you will find that it is the Prophet Joseph Smith. He is the head of this Dispensation, and he is the 'One that will come, and when you hear a man say he is the One Mighty and Strong, you .can know he is wrong, because that one will be a celestial being with light for a covering, and how quick can he come? ----Just as quick as we will be united and live the laws of God so that we can call down this man –just that soon he will come and help us. I say God bless you to live the laws and keep the commandments of God and live upright is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen."
Closing Song: "True To The Faith" Benediction --Brother George Sturm. LJAllred.
27 September 1942
General Meeting. at 2:00 p.m
Minutes of the General Meeting held Sunday, September 27, 1942 at 2:00 p.m. at the new Priesthood Home, Salt Lake City, Utah.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.
1st Song: "We Thank Thee, Oh God, For a Prophet" Prayer: Brother George L. Dockstader 2nd Song: "Earth With Her Ten Thousand Flowers"
Brother Barlow: "
We are happy to think that we have a home of our own, and we are contemplating right now making some changes in our Sunday School and organizing a young men's and young women's association, and we have a nice place here where the young people can dance and enjoy themselves, where we can put on plays, and we expect to have a joyful time. Brother Musser will read the names of our new organization heads.
Brother Musser:
The organizations, so far as we have had them organized, have done very splendid work, but we feel an urge to extend the work. It will be understood that we are not organizing under the authority of the Church. We are trying to add no organization to the Church. The Church is being controlled by its Presidency, its leaders, as they are constituted at the present time. But the Priesthood is taking upon itself, under the direction of the Lord, to bring organizations about that will assist in perfecting the faith of the saints, as the organizations in the Church are expected with reference to Church members who are invited to their meetings. Inasmuch as this is a Priesthood movement, it isn't necessary to follow the rule of the Church who vote our officers in or out. We have made the appointments, and they will stand as made until some other changes may be made from time to time. In the Sunday School, we have released Brother Lyman Jessop from the Superintendence and of course disorganized the Superintendence of the Sabbath School and their assistant but we have organized it with Brother Edward Christiansen as Superintendent, Brother Arnold Boss, 1st Assistant, and Garrett Monfranz as 2nd Assistant. "We have decided to organize, as Brother Barlow has mentioned, a Mutual Improvement work, to follow largely after the present Mutual's that are in the Church, except that we expect to teach the Gospel, fully and completely. We expect to follow the outlines generally that are published in the Improvement Era, wherein they are appropriate for our work, and we have asked Brother Lyman Jessop to take charge as Superintendent and Guy Musser and Fred Morrison as his assistants. later, the Young ladies will be organized to work in conjunction with the Young Men, but that has not been done yet. Something has' been said from time to time about our Genealogical work. We have decided now definitely to appoint a committee that they may start on that work in a very definite form. We feel that the time is nearing when the Lord will want us to go into the Temples and accomplish our work, and it is very important to become genealogical minded now and to get the data together now that we might be able to speed our work when the time comes. We have asked Rulon C. Allred, Theral R. Dockstaeder and Axel Fors to take charge of that work. "In our music, I am making no particular changes and Sister Athlene Allred is going to continue as leader of the Choir, but we have asked Brother Alfred Olschewski to act as Chairman of the Music Committee, to participate in this very important work. And, by the way, I feel to suggest that we have had some very wonderful music and we are getting more, and we are told now that the Choir is preparing for a sort of a musical concert to be given at the time of the dedication of the home, and they have asked that next Wednesday all who haven't joined the Choir who desire to that they appear here at 8:00 o'clock, and that is the deadline, as I have been told by one of the assistants here today. They desire all who expect to enter into this musical feast at the time mentioned to be here next Wednesday night. "I want to say that the Counsel feels very splendid about the combination that we have got there -piano and violin. We have a musical talent that is really remarkable. You see this beautiful piano that the saints have purchased and paid for. I think two weeks ago somebody suggested a piano, and now it is here, all paid for you brethren and sisters have done it. It is wonderful. Brother D. W. Jeffs and James Martin, as is already the case, are acting with reference to taking care and administering to the sick, or sending others to do that work They are easily got at -able and both have a phone, and you can generally get one of them or both --you who desire them to come into your home to administer to the sick. These brethren stand at the head of that work. Brother Jeffs also has the missionary work in hand. Brothers Marion Hammon and Charles Zitting will have general supervision over these various organizations. One or two of them will likely be at your meetings from time to time, and they represent the Counsel and their word will be law to you as far as the Counsel is concerned. Otto Olschewski has been appointed to look after the Sacrament. (Our Sacrament meeting will be next Sunday.) He will look after this work. He will appoint priests or elders and those who are qualified to administer the Sacrament from time to time and see that the bread and the water are furnished, and in general supervise that work. I know that you brothers and sisters will be glad to have these activities increased, you will lend these various committees and brethren and sisters your support --full and complete support. We expect the sisters to have their appointments. Sister Susie Barlow, of course, already is head of the Ladies Relief Society with Sister Zitting and Sister Darger, and they have been doing good work and we still expect them to continue on. Sisters will be chosen to work in the Department of Young ladies, and other appointments will be made from time to time.
Brother Lyman informs me that the first Mutual meeting will be held here
tonight at seven o'clock and you are all invited."
Brother Marion Hammon:
I am delighted, brothers and sisters, to be here. I don't know of any experience I have had in my lifetime I have enjoyed as much as working with you people, and I have enjoyed my labors in this house, all the time I have put in here, and I know there are many of the brethren that can say likewise. Let's see the hands of all the men who have put in at least one hour's work on this place'? I don't believe there's a man's hand that isn't up that was able to come. It's really been a labor of love, I am able to assure you. I am thrilled without measure in the blessing the Lord has given us in letting us have this house. (We just have permission from the Counsel to appoint a couple of ushers, so for the next month we will ask the two Olschewski boys to act as ushers and then we will give you a change. I suggest that we fill up the south seats first). As I was saying I am thrilled beyond measure that the Lord has opened up this place. We have had an opportunity of uniting our efforts in this place, the benefit of offering our funds in the up building of the Kingdom of God. We have had the opportunity of furnishing three of our families homes. We have had the privilege of providing a place where the President of the Priesthood Counsel can be at home to the saints where they can come and share his time and receive his counsel. I have had a good many sweet moments myself in this house. I have never been here when I haven't felt good. There isn't a place where you don't feel good, where the Spirit of the Lord doesn't dwell. Some places we feel a frigidity, but we don't here. I don't know how many appreciate what has been done here. This place under the ceiling had to be torn up and made new. Brother Lyman, in connection with Brother Pettit and Brother Jeffs, drew the plans and everything was done accordingly. I am sure the Lord intended the building for this purpose when it was built. There has been about a minimum of renovating for it to serve the capacity it serves. Its apartments just had to have the sinks and plumbing repaired. These rafters and joints you don't see --they are under the covering -are not exactly true, and it has been difficult to get the studding fixed for the plaster board. So maybe you think it has taken us a long time, but we have worked hard and put in a lot of time. "I will always look back on the rejoicing I have had in the work on this place. I have never seen a man work here and complain. If a man is working, several will step up and help. The Sunday School has been reorganized -not especially because it was inadequate, but since Sunday Schools are intended for the children, we hope it will be expanded to more adequately take care of the children. We hope the teachers will be given the Juvenile Instructor and the Superintendence will help them select the subject matter, so they can take the small tots and provide sufficient teachers. There shouldn't be over ten children to one teacher. There should be four or five teachers to take care of the children. This M.I.A. work that has been opened -we want it strictly understood that it is not organized in addition to the Church or we are trying to make a church of our own. It is merely to supply a need of our young people and take care of our own requirements. We have decided to have it take place on Sunday nights, as it was in former years. Our dancing, etc., will be done on Friday nights and begin at least by nine o'clock and finish at 11:30. And we expect to use the outlines compiled in the Improvement Era. There is much wholesomeness in the MIA work in the Church. They have laid special emphasis in trying to keep it wholesome and clean. And in dramatic and dancing, etc., we hope the Lord 'Will bless us in the scope of our possibilities, Brother Lyman will be able to develop the talents of our people. is the main work of our M.I.A. work. was the primary function -- young people might be mutually benefitted. We realize that we can't be too straight-laced, but there are none in attendance here who are able to serve the Lord with all their might, mind and strength so we must be tolerant with the young people, but we don't expect the Superintendence to tolerate misdoings. If we can't have it organizes on a clean and wholesome basis, it will have to be done away until the saints are ready to do it. I don't know where we could find men that are better qualified to stand over that work than the men we have chosen. Brother Lyman has functioned for years in the M.I.A. and his natural inclinations are with the young people. I am sure he will be able to carry on. I suppose that Brother Fred Morrison will have to work with the young men in their athletics and Brother Guy Musser will have to work more with the Gospel looks to be the natural thing. We hope that they will have the spirit of the Lord and will counsel with Brother Zitting and myself, we might all see eye to eye and labor in unison. Now this genealogical work -it lies near to our hearts and I know it is life itself' to Brother Allred. I know , and if there is any work that I feel to urge upon you, it is the labor of the genealogical work. There are none of us that are officially called upon as missionaries, save the Counsel -but I am telling you this, and I want you to lay it to heart, the Lord is offering you the opportunity of digging up genealogical work so that you can labor for your dead. We won't reveal the ordinances of the Temple, but will teach you how to keep your records, to find out how your progenitors were, and there is nothing that can merit more serious consideration than this work. If you feel that you haven't any interest in it, I urge you to come out and receive instruction. I took a vote one time at Brother Zitting's, and there wasn't one-third that had a sheet of paper telling of their personal histories. Now, if Brother Allred and his assistants don't have a mighty field, I don't know where they could go. Inasmuch as they are earning a livelihood the same as the rest of us, we urge that you all come and don't let them do it all. It looks like there will have to be others called in to help in this work. I don't know whether I am. building you up in this work, but I feel that inasmuch as we have this house given to us that we have a place to meet that we all come out. I don't believe the saints in the early days had the facilities we have here. We will soon have four classrooms on this one floor. As Brother Joseph remarked, Brother Alfred Olschewski is to stand at the head of our music, with one qualification - Sister Athlene Allred stand at the head of our Choir. The Counsel has appreciated her work and want her to continue in the work as long as she enjoys it. She has done a marvelous work and she has pioneered it, and I like to see her enjoy some of the fruits of her work. It is our desire that. Brother Alfred will lay his hand, gradually getting you people to display your talents in the expression of music. You maybe noted that we put him Chairman of a Committee without any assistants, but he will have as his assistants those who are in that work. We want all this work to move slowly but steadily. I have heard it remarked that Brother Leslie Broadbent remarked that "Whatever will be done from 1924 on would. be for the up building of the Kingdom of God, and we want this work to grow. We don't want any brothers or sisters to come and flourish in any work for a few months and then fade out. We hope that the brothers and sisters that are called into the work will go on steadily. When you are called to labor in a class, we want to be sure that somebody is appointed in your stead if you can It be there. There is nothing more disappointing to a class than to have those who they expect to have lead them not present or tardy, so we expect the brothers and sisters who will be called into this work will lay to with their might to benefit the saints as a whole. Again, we are grateful for the cooperation of the brethren in this work. We are going to have to call on you this next week to come and help complete the work. Here Brother Hammon commented upon the fine pulpit, complete with light, which Brother Logan Kunz had made for the Group, expressing appreciation for the work and thoughtfulness. He also mentioned the promises from several families of pictures for the new meetinghouse, saying they were doing all they could to make it a beautiful meeting place. I love all of you brothers and sisters and I often think of and appreciate the tolerance you show me in my out spokenness, but I don't want to be accused of cheating you out of your blessings. This is the day of. your probation, and if you fail now, your chances hereafter are going to be mighty slim, but if you will go to it now, hereafter you will be added upon. Now, we appreciate your 'work, but you are not working a bit too hard nor as hard as you are going to have to work. Every man and woman will have to labor with his might or will not merit the blessings of the Lord. My dear brothers and sisters, when it comes to the work of the Lord, be careful if you have an excuse or are fabricating one. This, remember, is the key to your success. If you've got an excuse, you need not apologize for your actions, but be sure that you didn't make it to satisfy your feelings. Now I bear you my testimony as to the divinity of this work. Let' s continue in this spirit, I ask in the name of Jesus, Amen."
Charles Zitting: " I feel that we are still just in the pioneer age. On September 26 and 27, 1886 (56 years ago today), they had an eight hour meeting at John Woolley' s place."( Here Brother Zitting related in detail the events surrounding John Taylor's revelation of 1886 when the Prophet Joseph Smith and the Saviour visited with him and instructed him and he refused to sign the manifesto) which had been prepared for his signature. Also, how men were set apart to keep the principle of patriarchal marriage alive and to see that no year. passed without children being born under that covenant. We have done considerably since 1886, but we have been slow --slow but healthy. You will notice that all hardwood trees are slow in growing. We have grown slowly since that day -we have seen many come and many go. It is a sifting process that we are going through. The Lord is trying to build a people that can go on into the Millennium. All that can be shaken will be shaken. We had better stick to principle. You had better love the Lord and keep his commandments regardless of what certain people will do. There are men and women here who will be tested and tried -some are being tested and tried and they are coming out shining. They will come out as prophets and prophetesses to the Lord Jesus Christ. They will be the nucleus of the Kingdom of God at the beginning of the Millennium and you will see this world ruled over by Christ. himself with the Prophet Joseph at his side. For the benefit of some that come into our Group who think that we are starting a new Church, we want to say that we believe there is only one true church and that is the Church of Jesus Christ as established by Joseph Smith. Many of you .have been cast out of it, but I don't care what they do to us .we are still hanging to the teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith. We know that all of it is necessary for the salvation of man here upon the earth. If any principle of the Gospel isn't necessary for your highest exaltation, then it wouldn't have been established, and if celestial or plural marriage and the United Order are established by the Lord through His prophets, it means it is necessary to exaltation or it wouldn't have been established. Our children can't go into the organizations or even associate with the neighbors. I know a little girl who was beaten the other day because she came across the fence and associated with a little polygamous girl. We know the Lord still recognizes the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints with Heber J. Grant as His Church or he wouldn't send One Mighty and strong to set the House of God in order, and we still recognize it as the Church of Jesus Christ. But for the outcasts, we have to go into a separate house to partake of the emblems of the Lord Jesus Christ. 'We have to have classes for the young people, our genealogy and Sunday School where our children can hear the principles of the Gospel." He related his experience of being instructed by Elder Charles W. Kingston and later having the privilege of teaching him the fullness of the Gospel. "I can't remember when I didn't believe in plural marriage. I rejoice in the work of the lord. I rejoice in our Sunday School and our Mutual's and Genealogical work and think we should make it the first thing in our life to see that our children are brought up right in these different organizations. I don't know of a place I'd want to send my children where they are taught better than they are here. Those who have felt to complain about us -please point out something better. Can you do it? It isn't to be had. I love you people, and we want to live together in the principles of the Gospel.
Choir: "Lo, the Mighty God Appearing"
Brother John Y. Barlow:
We have something more yet that we want to put before you this day. We organized a benefit fund for those who might be caught in the law, and also that we might bury our dead. Some of us have been blessed in this and been helped. Now, the brethren are not coming up and paying as they should do. We have another case on where one of our brothers is in trouble. If we were paying this fund, we would have money to go ahead and fight this case, but we are not doing it especially you men that are in the same position. This fund was made for our benefit and help and we asked 30¢ a month for an adult and 15¢ f or a child and where there is a death they get $150 for an adult and, $75 for a child for burial. It's right among ourselves we are saving this fund. I want you people to realize what a wonderful thing this fund is and when we get a certain amount we will have it to protect ourselves and we don't know from one day to another who is going to need this help. It comes to us like a bolt out of the sky. Brother Rulon Allred is taking care of this fund and we would like you to talk to him and find out what it is and learn how to protect yourselves. I have been greatly pleased with the remarks of the brethren.
Elmer Johnson: Mentioned that the key--note of the meeting seemed to be the necessity of our doing our part in the work, the time was drawing short for the accomplishment of the things necessary-to be done and prayed we would realize our responsibility:
Roy Johnson: Mentioned the improvement in the building. He bore his testimony of the truthfulness of the Gospel and related a dream which to him was a testimony of the calling of Brother John Y. Barlow
Brother Joseph Musser:
I know we have all been interested in the proceedings up to date. Am. glad to hear Brother Roy-' s testimony-with reference to Brother Barlow's position. He mentioned his gratitude that the spirit of the Lord has been acting upon the Priesthood Counsel to broaden the scope of the activities, recalling how the group used to meet in one room at Brother Leslie Broadbent's home. I want to emphasize the words of Brother Elmer Johnson with reference to staying with one's faith. So many-people (Brother Zitting spoke of it), make a start, become enthused and then stop before they have dropped away-. Sometimes we find those who have been through lots of trouble and persecution and then they get tired and stop. Those kind of people are to be pitied. We have put our shoulder to the wheel and our hands are upon the plow, and to a true latter Day Saint there is no looking backward. I know oftentimes we stumble in our weaknesses and to get our breath for another start, but those who go on to the end are the ones who are to succeed. The Lord says it isn't the swift that wins the race; it isn't the strong that wins the battle, but 'he that endures to the end. And in my short experience, I find a large percentage of the latter Day-Saints stopping and looking backwards and going back In my early youth, I observed this. I observed some people were so changeable, so shallow in their faith and at the same time who made great pretentions, that they couldn't remain. As brother Lorin once told me, speaking of a certain man 'you've got to sleep with that man every night to keep him in the faith. And we have men of that kind. There are some in this house today who are of that type. I don't say it complainingly. I don't say it boastingly that I have stood somewhat firm. Sometimes my heart fairly bleeds with anxiety and sorrow to see some of my brothers and sisters turning aside and assuming that they didn't have to carry on to the end. I have learned through experience that only those who carryon will reach the goal. Only those who remain faithful and true can be expected to go back into Father's presence and dwell with Him throughout eternities. The Prophet Alma received the revelation at one time from the Lord, when he was converted from a very wicked man to the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Lord made it very clear to him that those only who were born again and born of God could remain faithful and true. And what does it mean to be born of God'? 'Unless you are born again you cannot see the Kingdom of God I? Those who are born of the water and the spirit will enter the Kingdom. What does it mean to be 'born of the spirit''? When we are born of the water, we are baptized and are given the Gift of the Holy Ghost, but does that mean that we are born of the spirit'? I don't so understand it. We are born of the spirit only so far as we adhere to the promptings of the spirit. Alma, though very wicked when he was stricken of the Lord and an angel appeared to him, he repented and became a very strong and mighty man in the early Nephite history, but he had to be born of the spirit by adhering to the teachings of the spirit. We brethren have the Priesthood. We have the priesthood, power and authority to administer to the sick, but do we always accomplish that which we set our hands and our minds upon with respect to the healing of the sick, and are the sick themselves prepared to receive the blessings at all times? If we were 'born of the spirit', fully and completely, every person that isn't appointed unto death might be healed, could be healed through the power of the Holy Priesthood. There is no question about that in my mind. The Lord has stated it, and the Lord does not lie. This organization has for its purpose the building up of this people, to teach them and instruct them and lead them along and bring them to a condition where they will know that which is right and that which is wrong. Here he mentioned seeing various people going to the different churches, all having testimonies, and how when the test came they would fall away and join another church. "Sometimes I wonder ·with respect to this people and hear our brethren get up in our congregations and say so and so has been revealed to them, they know so and so, they know Brother Barlow, Musser, Zitting, etc., are so and so representing the Counsel of the Priesthood, and yet we find with the same people, oftentimes, they have become cool and indifferent and they deny that which they had firmly stated, and so when I hear people say they have received a definite testimony, I wonder if they have, and, if they have, I wonder if they are going to stay with it and be strong and be able to be used by the Lord. is the work of this Priesthood Counsel - is what we are supposed to be doing is teaching you the Gospel, the truth, building up your faith and helping you to walk until you can walk alone and until you can get a testimony and until you can say in the face of threatened death that this is the true work of God. Yes, if my brethren here on the stand could not say , I would consider that their missions had been a failure up to date. If they can't face death and stand there in courage without moving, maintaining the truth that God has revealed in this Dispensation, I would say that they are failing in their missions. And yet can we all do it? 's what we· are trying to put across. We are trying to get in a position where we can say we know it and mean it, and we do know and mean it. Do I know' that Brother Barlow stands at the head of this Counsel? Of course I do and have testified of it. Do I know he was called by revelation? Of course I do and have so testified. And these other brethren have been called into the Counsel by the voice of the Lord and not by the whims of man, and that is the reason they are giving counsel at the present time. Lorin told us when he 'was here that it wasn't the will of the Lord that the members of the Counsel would have to shed blood, if they would remain true and faithful and he said our sons would not have to go to war and shed blood if they will remain true and faithful, if they will serve the Lord and keep His commandments. Now, was a great comfort given at that time. I had sons growing up and I have four in the service at the present time. Now, same of our young people are beginning to wonder at that promise. A number of our choice young men are being called into the service at the present time. They are wondering if Brother Lorin was inspired of the Lord in making the prediction. I say yes, he was inspired, and he was acting as a Prophet of the Lord, and I am going to ask you younger brothers and elder brothers and make the inquiry of myself -have we served the Lord in the full purpose of heart? Have we lived up to the laws of God in their entirety according to our understanding and wisdom and judgment? If you have, I'm prepared as a servant of the Lord to say that you'll not have to go into war and kill men. You may have to go into the service of the Government. The Lord inspired the Constitution and it is His government and someday He will stand at the head of it. There is a great deal of corruption in it at the present time, just as there is a great deal of corruption in the Church, but it still is the Lord's Church and it is still the Lord's government and it is our duty to stand up and defend it as far as we can in accordance with our conscience and in accordance with the desires of the Lord. It is our duty to do that I feel that I am safe in promising you young men that are called into the service that if you will remain true to the commandments of the Lord and keep His counsel and be true to your covenants that you have made that the Lord God Almighty will preserve your lives and will let you follow in the ranks of patriots. That's my testimony. If we are appointed unto death, let death come it is a wonderful blessing, but not until we are appointed and our missions have been completed. We must stay here and perform our labors and do all that the Lord requires at our hand. These are some of the things I have been thinking about lately. I know that some of our men have been thinking about the war set-up a lot lately and I don't blame them. The Lord's using these nations as a battle axe. We have got to be humble and we have got to fight just as they did in the days of Moroni. He took up the battle axe under the direction of the Lord and headed the armies and stayed there and did what he could to bring to pass righteousness among the people. He did his duty, and we have got to do our duty. God bless you. Let's see if we can't get a lot closer to the truth -a little more faith. Let's exercise a little more faith today and tomorrow and when we call in the Elders to administer to the sick, let us get more faith. Let us prepare ourselves and let us enter into a covenant with the Lord that if He will heal us we will serve Him and keep His commandments" Let's see if we can't get more of the spirit of the Lord - there will be more power, power such as has been exercised in the dispensations in the past --as was exercised by the Prophet Joseph and his assistants. The Priesthood is the same today. We hold the same priesthood that they held and death and hell cannot stand before God the Eternal Father if we have faith and are diligently seeking to do His will. God bless you, Amen."
Brother John Y. Barlow:
I would just like to say to these young men -read the account of Helaman and the 2,000 young men under him. They went to war but the Lord preserved them. I have heard that saying of Lorin's a number of times, if we would keep the commandments of the Lord, we wouldn't have to go to war. We haven't done as we should have done. I ask God's blessings upon you.
Closing Song: "Let Us All Press On" Prayer: Brother Bert .Barlow.
Myrtle Allred, Secretary.
1 October 1942
Meeting. at the Priesthood Home, Salt Lake City, Utah
Minutes of the Sacrament Meeting held Sunday, October 1, 1942 at the Priesthood Home, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 o'clock p.m.
Brother J.M. Hammon:
Presided and Conducted until during the singing of the 2nd Song when Brother John Y. Barlow, J. W. Musser and Charles F. Zitting arrived and
Brother Barlow took charge of the meeting.
1st Song: "Redeemer of Israel» Prayer: Brother Blaine Thompson 2nd Song: "While of These Emblems We Partake" Sacrament administered by Dell Timpson and Axel Fors, assisted by John Buchereit and Otto Olschewski
Time turned over for testimony bearing.
Brother Barlow
urged that they exercise their agency and their testimonies would be strengthened.
Testimonies borne by: Pansy Darger, Rulon Jeffs, Jess Toomey, W. E •. Stokes, Dell Timpson, Zola Cleveland, Winnie Jessop, George Kalmar, Myrtle Allred
Congregation sang: Praise to the Man
Further testimonies borne by: Arnold Boss, D. W. Jeffs
Brother J. W. Musser:
I think the effort that is being put forth at the present time is as earnest and as definitely diabolical, as the effort that put the Savior upon the cross. Accusers had nothing against him and couldn't testify he had done anything that was wrong, and finally the Judge said, I can't find anything against him. Well let's crucify him anyway. Well, gentlemen, why not instead of crucifying him, a season has come to free one of the prisoners. Let's free him and let Barnabus suffer. No, let Barnabus loose; let's crucify Christ. that is the spirit they had at that time and the spirit that they have now. Now, who was it that was fighting Christ at that time? It was the Sanhedrin --the Church. The officials of the Church, the high priest was the one who questioned him first and turned him over to Pilot after condemning him; and who is it today that is doing the same thing? Why, it is the Presidency of the Church --you might call it the Sanhedrin of the Church not of the Priesthood but of the Church. It came out in testimony day before yesterday that Brother McKay had sent this Brother Fetzer to ferret out these cases and turn the evidence over to the courts, etc.; and he has done it and Brother Grant confessed that he was implicated, and Brother Clark and Brother McKay so it is the same picture exactly that we had then. "How a determined effort has been made by the prosecution to have evidence going around with the hope that we would go on the stand and deny it so they could get at us and tear us to pieces and get down to the rules of law and get down into our vitals and bleed us to death. is what they wanted us to do. They said things about members of the Council that were . not true and put words in their mouths that were not true. We were able to repudiate one of them – that statement attributed to Brother Kelsch, as we had the minutes of the meeting. Sister Allred had taken that speech down word for word so that we were able to combat that and we will not have to put Brother Lewis on the stand--but they want us to do it. They are doing everything they can to make a strong case out of a weak case. My brethren and sisters, I don't want you to think that I am seeking imprisonment. If Brother Kalmar wants to go to jail, I guess he can; I don't want to go there unless the Lord wants me to. If He wants me to, I and hold up my chin and take what's coming like a man, but I don't think we have heard the last of this yet in fact, I know it. There will be some surprise during the week, but it is the Lord's work. The Church, State and the nation has entered into a conspiracy to destroy the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. They have deliberately. You destroy the head, and you destroy the body. You destroy the principle of plural or celestial marriage and you have destroyed the Gospel --and that is what they are trying to do •. I think we should make it very clear and plain that it is the Gospel they are after. The Devil isn't afraid of baptism, but he is afraid of eternal life. He is deprived of that because of the position he took before we came here on this earth. He can't have eternal life. He can't propagate himself and can't bring forth a kingdom and that is why he is trying to destroy us, and so let's keep on in the fight. They can't do any more than the Lord will let them.. How many have the history of Joseph Smith, the Life of Joseph Smith, in their library? --book was prepared in the Utah Penitentiary up here on the hill while Brother Cannon was here. That is worth going to the pen to have time to write something like this. God bless you, and don't believe everything you see in the papers. The papers only teach that which will make this group of "people look ridiculous, to all look like we are guilty. They are after sensation, but the Lord has a sensation for them, and one of these days they will feel it and the walls of prejudice will fall upon them, will consume them because of their wickedness. God bless you, Amen. Testimony borne by Mrs. DeLand
Brother Marion Hammon:
1 don't know whether we need any reassurance 01 not, but I think a little reflection don't hurt. I remember Brother Musser had with him asked at one of the first meetings I had with him are you able to stand persecution?' I don't know if I replied or not. And I remember out in Charles' place one time when he said, 'There is one thing I can promise you and that is you will be given persecution.' We have gone along these many years knowing that we would be persecuted, if we have any testimony in Brother Musser. Now, Brother Barlow told us about five years ago, You are a good people but not good enough and to get the spirit of God and keep it.' And so we now find ourselves pushed up close to the fire, and what are we going to do about it? There is no doubt in my mind but what we are approaching a condition that is going to be startling to the world something coning into our lives will really classify us as saints, and we will become united and the Gospel of Jesus Christ will have a solid foundation upon which to rear its structure and become the Kingdom of God. When the Church is set in order, I repeat, it will have to have people who will keep it in order. We must have order, and as soon as we don't have it, our progress will be stopped I believe that I have said in the past that we have got to have 'knees that won't buckle.' We have got to have pillars of strength to hold the thing together, and He is trying to do His work through men. He is trying to save people and make Gods out of His people. That's what he wants. He wants to save every man around the place. If we will stand united, it will benefit us and God is not going to turn us loose to bring to pass the purposes He has ordained until we are tried and tested. We hear this thing suggested in these trials to let some take all the blame and others go free. We might have our private thoughts, but let's be careful we don't betray our brethren. Some of us think we have such a nice character, but let us get upon the stand and let them dig into our case and we would really look bad. If the Lord wants those people to go to prison, it will be because He knows it will do them good. Let's not be so anxious to break ranks and let somebody take the punishment. We have never 'conspired' until now, but are now conspiring to beat them in the court -at their own game. is the first conspiracy we have entered into, but I don't believe it will be the last. I believe the brethren and sisters going before the courts will remain true. I want to see us develop a love for the Gospel more than the things about us. I would like to draw your attention to the fact that it is the condition of the heart that counts. We might persuade the brothers on the outside for a while. God knows himself whether we are traitors or not; and God pity us when eventually we are found out before the judgment bar of God. This Society will not, has not, the right to expel you from any society of this people because there are no rules of conduct with which you have to prescribe yourself. There are no rules of membership. Brother John, being the proprietor. of this house, could have me evicted for disturbing the peace, but he can't keep me from visiting Brother Boss. I can mingle with you people as long as I want. I can be a traitor if I want. You are at perfect liberty to work out your salvation. The Church thought they had done a wonderful thing by cutting us off. We are now being given the privilege of working 'out our salvation. Let us do a better job of it I know definitely by the whisperings of the spirit that there are not any of us who don't want to live this Gospel. I pr ay the Lord will bless us with the wisdom we need. Some of you brethren have been so anxious to get the first girl you could get that you are getting some of the experience. Let's be careful. I advise any man to not marry until he is satisfied it will turn for good and he is ready to abide the consequences. There is nothing for us to do but live our religion. They can't change our status. There is nothing else we can do. Let them come. I pray God to give us strength to this end in Jesus Christ's name, Amen.
Brother Rulon C. Allred:
It was not my intention to stand before you today and bear my testimony, but when Brother Marion talked to us it brought to my mind the weaknesses of the flesh that we are all heir to and how easy it is for us to betray them and show those weaknesses and manifest to the hurt of our brothers and sisters, and more particularly to the hurt of ourselves. No brother or sister was ever hurt half so much by having someone betray them as the person himself is hurt by becoming a traitor. We naturally voice ourselves towards our feelings regarding things that have been done the did not meet with our approval, that we did not understand. And I want to said that I have repeated this again and again to my family -almost all. of the hatred and the animosities that arise in the lives of individuals come from misunderstandings of the intents of the hearts of the individuals we condemn If we don't forget that, we will be very careful in guarding our thoughts and our feelings in condemning a brother or a sister. What could we expect but to have it, as Brother Marion has said, the papers would castigate us, ridicule us, tell our story in the most heinous light possible, and never say anything good about us. It was rather singular that in one of the editions a favorable statement got it, and that was because they thought Mr. Lowry said it. I remember hearing one brother say just a short time ago, 'Well, looks awfully bad upon the face of it looks awfully bad, but I tell you that are present that if you knew all the circumstances it wouldn't look bad at all,' and I know that's true. I think we might try to remember as we are now passing before the fire, as Brother Hammon said We have got to remember that we are brothers and sisters in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We are the sons and the daughters of our Father in Heaven. My brother or sister is as much entitled to a fair hearing upon any case, no natter heinous or bad it may sound, as I am, and therefore let us judge with propriety; and when you or I have for a moment permitted ourselves to say, 'I wish I didn't have anything to do with that brother or sister,' remember that perhaps your lack of charity, your small portion of the Gospel of Christ has put you in. a position where you couldn't have that love which would cover that sin with a cloak of charity. May God for· forgive us our sins. May He help us to overcome our weaknesses. May it truly be said of us, 'He is a man or a woman of God.' And we are bound to have evil spoken of us by the wicked if we are good, and we are bound to be well thought of by the righteous if' we are righteous and as we sow so shall we reap. We are not yet in the reaping time. We are simply passing trough the time of trial --the time when our lives, as the wheat, are being irrigated, weeded, graded and fertilized and cultivated in order that we will be valiant servants."
Further testimonies borne by Axel Fors, Daisy Mae Lingreen, I. W. Barlow, Aleen Jessop, Martha Doelling, John Butchereit, Marilyn Thompson, Jennie :Mae Bistline, Blaine Thompson, Susie Barlow, Logan Kunz, Virginia Kunz, Victor Beck
Closing Song: "Come, Let Us Anew" Benediction: Brother Guy Musser
M.L.A.
11 October 1942
General Meeting. at the new Priesthood Home, 2157 Lincoln Street, Salt Lake City, Utah
Minutes of the General Meeting held Sunday, October 11, 1942, at the new Priesthood Home, 2157 Lincoln Street, Salt Lake City, Utah.
President John Y. Barlow presided –
Brother Roy Johnson conducted.
1st Song: that "Come Let Us Anew" Prayer: By Brother Eslie Jensen of Millville, Utah 2nd Song: that "Improve the Shining Moments"
Edson Jessop: Expressed his appreciation of his association with the saints, for his parentage. Asked the Lord' s blessings upon all the saints.
Arnold Boss: Dwelt on the difference between worldly learning and the teaching by the spirit of God. He told of his experience with an old. man in Cedar City which bore out the fact that our present meetings in the Church do not have the spirituality they formerly did,-- trying to explain everything by science. Touched on the sacrifice made by John D. Lee for the sake of the Church. The day is at hand when you men will be used in preaching the Gospel to the world, and that will be without purse and scrip He also deplored the practice of sending missionaries into the field to reform them. He related Heber' C. Kimball's prophecy in 1860 where the word of the Lord came to us and told us that a people will come out from among this people here in these valleys of the mountains who would love the Gospel as the Lord had revealed it, etc. Also, of President .• Young's address in the Bowery when he was wondering how many of the people would remain faithful and true.
Congregation sang "The Star Spangled Banner"
Brother Martin Olson:
Told of having known Brother John Barlow at least forty or fifty years, of his association with Brother Lorin Woolley and his father. Bore testimony of the truthfulness of Brother Woolley's statements on different occasions. Bore testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel, saying there was no other plan whereby man can be saved in the Kingdom of God.
Brother Virgil Jessop:
Bore his testimony of the Gospel in its fullness. Accounted his experience three weeks previous of spending a day in jail, it didn't hurt him but taught him some appreciation. He said he wasn't ashamed of his conduct. He quoted a poem which was in the form of a prayer. Said he had recently felt enough to try to imagine the feelings that Christ had when he was betrayed in the Garden of Gethsemane, and hoped he could forgive everybody. Closed by giving the following poem which he had written:
I am on the anvil, Oh my God And blushing red and hot, Please hammer me and shapen me And make me what I'm not. Then temper me in the vat of love, And make me mild and true And teach me in humility Thy holy will to do.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
Recollected meeting with Brother Olson and Brother Jessop in Millville, of spending about 29 months on a mission and then getting handled when he returned. How he learned more in six months after than he had learned during his life up until that time. Said he was forced to either deny the Gospel of Jesus Christ or else take a course --the course that Joseph Smith laid out for us. I know that the Gospel is true, and I know that there are many in this house that know that the Gospel is true - the plan was laid down by our Savior and brought out into light again by the Prophet Joseph. The Gospel has always been here, but the authority to administer in the ordinances thereof was not here until it was restored again. The Gospel was taught to Adam, it was taught all down to Noah, it was taught to the Children of Israel. John, in speaking to the children of Israel, said that the Gospel was taught to them but did not stay with them, not being administered in faith, and it was taught by the Savior and his apostles and disciples until they had killed them off and destroyed them, and then "another angel flying through the midst of heaven having the everlasting Gospel to preach" * * * Now, my brothers and sisters, we are today living in that hour of judgment when God is going to cleanse this earth and purify it and if we as a people do not live up to these laws and allow ourselves to be purified and cleansed, we will be pushed aside and there will be others who will do it. Our boys, a great many of them today:, are being called into the service, and a great many of them are feeling bad because Brother Woolley told them that they wouldn't have to fight. But, remember, he put a proviso there --if we kept the commandments of God. Have we kept them? If you have, I haven't kept them -not as well as I should, and neither have you. We are today just as the Prophet said we would be -heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasure and not of God. applies to you in the group as well as to the people in the Church. I think also right today that the words of Isaiah come very true -children are our oppressors. Did you ever live in a day and age when the children said, 'your father is an old fogey'? But, my brothers and sisters, if we do not keep the laws and commandments of God and cleanse and purify ourselves, we can't expect the blessings. What does the Lord say? He says, just what Brother Woolley said, 'If you will keep My commandments, I will fight your battles, but if you do not keep my commandments, you have no promise. ' Now, I don't want to scold. I love you brothers and sisters and believe you are the best people on the earth today, but I want to see you change and. get better and prepare yourselves so that when necessary that angels of God will come down and direct in what to do. We can do it if we will live for it. Many of our boys are going to the war --going into the army --and it makes our hearts. sad. We didn't raise our boys to become soldiers. We raised our boys to be soldiers of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. is what we are raising them for and that is what we want them for -not to go out and kill and fight. While we want to be loyal and do the best we can in every way,. I want you to go home and read the 98th Section of the Doctrine and Covenants and see what it says about war. You will find that the Lord tells us when we should and shouldn't go to war. I love the Constitution of the United States --the original Constitution before it was tampered with and before it was broken and cast aside and ceased to be. There is no such Government on the earth as our Government, but when the wicked reign, the people err. But, on the other hand, my brothers and sisters, the Lord tells us that these things were brought to test us and try us and see if we would keep our covenants even unto death, and if we won't, we aren't worthy of them. Are we going to keep them and live worthy so we can? We think we have seen sorrow --we think we have seen trouble, but we haven't seen anything and we will see some. Pres. Kimball said if these people didn't turn and serve the Lord, the Judgments would come so that their enemies would weep for them. Remember, where there is much given, there is much required. Let us take these things to heart. Let us remember that God has blessed us with this place to meet and now let us use it in a way and remember as soon, as we can dedicate this it will be sacred to us and we don't want any swearing or anything of that nature. Let's not go out and mingle with Babylon. One of the worst curses among our people today are picture shows and the radio. I haven't seen a man in my life but what needed to repent, and the higher you go on the more you will have to repent and the harder you will find it to do. I don't want to take up any more time. I pray the Lord to bless you to live His laws in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
He acknowledged gifts of a Bible and Doctrine & Covenants and suggested that a Book of Mormon and Pearl of Great Price would be greatly appreciated. I was glad to hear the Star Spangled Banner. There is a picture in my mind's eye how that beautiful banner looked as it hung to the east on Ensign Peak on the 24th of July, 1847. But as it hung there, it was the banner of the Kingdom of God. Then it wasn't filled 'with stars. The time will come when thy stars will represent nations in the Kingdom. That banner was inspired by the Lord and is the banner or the flag of the Kingdom of God when it is properly starred and properly presented and displayed. Some people have the idea that when the saints came here they unfurled the stars and stripes of the United States, but that isn't correct. They unfurled the banner of the Kingdom of God on the peak north of us here, and .banner, while it was taken down and while we don't see it very often, is still waving to all the world and the time will come when the Kingdom of God will be established here in the United States --will begin here and will spread out over the earth. All countries will finally come into that Kingdom under that beautiful banner which we now call the "stars and stripes" and every nation that comes in will have a new star added. And when these wave over this great country of ours, it will spell freedom --freedom, virtue, honesty. security of rights and property and free agency, right to worship as we wish to --the right to conduct ourselves day by day so long as we are not interfering ,with other people's rights and privileges, as we are prompted to do. It will be a banner of actual freedom --not a freedom as we seen to have at the present time when we are curtailed in practice, but the time will come when the earth (which is the Lord' s) and the fullness: thereof will be given to us and there will be no cruelty, no greed, no, murders, no adulterers. It will be a time of peace, it will be a time of millennium is what we are looking forward to at the present time. Out of this present war, the millennium will come. There is, of course, pain in birth, pain in growth, and we are going through the labor pains now of the new birth of this great country. The Prophet Joseph Smith didn't die in vain. He didn't offer himself under the direction of the Lord Jesus Christ to become President of the United States in vain. was the testimony that God gave the nation. He made that offering when Joseph presented himself as a candidate for the presidency of the United States. The United States had gone wrong and had organized themselves under the inspired constitution. It isn't a perfect constitution, because the people were not prepared to accept a perfect constitution, but what they did accept came through the inspiration of Almighty God, and when the Lord saw the people were going astray, when he saw that they were tearing the Constitution into shreds and when He saw that wickedness was prevalent upon the earth and was increasing, as a last resort and as a last offering to this nation he gave them Joseph Smith and their reply to God the Eternal Father was to take the life of the Prophet. They I threw down the gauntlet of war and it has been so ever since. The Lord was trying to save His people. There are a great many honest, virtuous, righteous people in the United States. They are ignorant and do not understand the Gospel. Many are honorable people who are blinded by the craftiness of men and don't understand the Gospel of Jesus Christ and yet they are pure and clean and try to do right and try to live the golden rule and the Lord is feeling after those kind and is going gradually, after this 'War that started in 1914, as a matter of fact. We only had a little recess for the countries to get together and make a bigger war. The Lord gave them a chance to accumulate all they could bring together in order to make a war so they would bring destruction upon all the wicked. Now, this is in consequence of the killing of the Prophet Joseph Smith, one of the three in the God-head of this earth the head of this great dispensation when all things shall be gathered together into one and be reinstated in this dispensation. The laws that were promulgated by Father Adam --rights and ceremonies are for this dispensation. Those things that were promulgated by the Savior, Jesus Christ, in the meridian of time are being and will be restored in this dispensation, and all the Gospel with all its strength and power and understanding and glory and purity will be restored in this dispensation --in the dispensation of the meridian of time they didn't have ordinances in the temple as we have them now, and as we will have than before the final scene is wound but they didn't have them then. Why? Because the people were not prepared for them. They didn't have them in the days of Father Adam, because the people then were just starting up the ladder. Of course, I don't want you to get the improper understanding. Adam had all power, and they had temples in the mountains and they had all the ordinances but the people generally were not receiving those ordinances and neither did they do it in the days of Abraham or Jesus Christ because they had not had developed or received their endowments, but our Father possessed the fullness of all things pertaining to this and all his other earths and he had the power and authority to administer in those many rights and ordinances, and now all those things that were given in that first age of this ·earth are being restored, so that we have a fullness of times and it was Joseph Smith that was presiding over this great fullness. A great many thousands of things were revealed to him that were not given to the Church. A few of the commandments were brought out --most of them from our Book of Doctrine &Covenants, a book that it was anticipated the saints would be able to receive and profit by and grow up under, but we have come to the place where it has been demonstrated beyond doubt that the Church hasn't been able to live up to the commandments in this book, which is a small amount when compared to the information that Joseph received while he was upon the earth. He told Brigham there wasn't a man on the earth who would stand by him if he told all that was revealed to him. We are told that all the world couldn't hold what was revealed to the Lord Jesus Christ. It doesn't mean the world couldn't hold the books, but that the conditions were such that the world couldn't hold the words and couldn't live by them. The world has never yet reached a point where His words .can be received in their fullness and lived up to and the world nor this group has never yet reached a point where the words of the Prophet Joseph Smith can be received and lived up to. If we had them today, they would curse us, because we are not prepared for them. We are still children, and our responsibility now is to grow up to that situation which Joseph had in hand. Some of the people have been talking of later about the great leadership we have at the present time --President Grant. I don't want to say anything derogatory of President Grant. He has been the right man in the right place. He is what the people wanted and What the Lord gave them, but it has been openly stated he is the greatest prophet that has been in this dispensation --that his work has been greater, even, than the Prophet Joseph. People who make that statement are like the' kindergarten children in comparison with college learning -they don't know what they are talking about. Joseph Smith received all things pertaining to this dispensation. He' received that which Adam had and that which Christ put forth, and that they are all hid up in the archives of the great temple to come forth (will not say in the Temple here, either). There will come a time when mountains will be moved and records will be found pertaining to this dispensation. I had better not go any further on that This is a glorious day --a glorious time. I shall welcome the time when we can come here and have this hall completed and dedicated, and then I am with Bro John that we mustn't desecrate it. I hope the Lord will burn it or tear it down before we desecrate it. It was given to us for our development and growth. If you don't grow every day, there is something the matter with us. If I don't put on growth every day that I live, there is something the matter with me. Take the trees, the vines --in the season thereof they are growing every day and never cease growing until they reach their ultimate, and we haven't reached our ultimate yet and never will if we live the laws of God -we will grow and increase as the Gods do, and never cease. Knowledge will. be added upon knowledge and power upon power and virtue upon virtue until we rule worlds, scores of worlds, and hundreds of worlds, and millions of worlds in the great' outpourings of eternity. God bless you, amen."
Closing Song: "True to the Faith" Benediction: Brother Ed Christiansen
M.L.Allred.
25 October 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. at 2:00 p.m
Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, Priesthood Home, 2157 Lincoln Street, Salt Lake City, Utah October 25, 1942 at 2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.
1st Song: "God of Cur Fathers, We Came Unto Thee." Prayer: Brother Jan Jessop. 2nd Song: "Secret Prayer"
The speakers called upon, except Brother Cook, have just returned from a trip to Short CreekBrother Joseph W. Musser: I was asleep part of the time, so I cannot tell you everything. Brother Hammon slept with me. There were some other things going on in another house that I know only by rumor. We left Saturday evening and arrived. at Short Creek Sunday morning in time for the early Sunday School. We did not hold Sunday School, but held a meeting. There were 93 partaking of the Sacrament and others came in later. I suppose there were over 100. It was astonishing to me, the number present. It looked like Short Creek was practically forsaken when we arrived. I have not been there for over two years. At the time of meeting we just centered our eyes on every bush and rock and it just seemed people were sprang up from all over. We held three sessions, well attended. Saints there from Cedar City and down the country from Short Creek, and the spirit of the Lord was with them. In the three days stay we had we did not hear a cuss word; we did not see anyone using tobacco or liquor. The people there are living as closely as possible to the Gospel of the Lard Jesus Christ. They are eating well. Of course, it was deer season. We have some good marksmen, and they took care of our needs. We were interested in same land and water there, and had a Council meeting on Monday. On the whole, the trip was a success. We appreciated the opportunity of meeting with those people once again, and so far as I am personally concerned, the faith was renewed in my heart and soul in the future growth of that section. The crops were not extraordinary this year. They had a drought. They had practically everything in their gardens. There is a spirit among the people in southern Utah and in Short Creek, the spirit of cooperation, the spirit that is leading on toward the United Order spirit has existed with some of the Saints for same five or six years in that section. But the spirit is growing and there is a desire in that people to get together and near the Lord; and my impressions are now that is our next step, this people has got to take that step shortly. I expect the Lord's spirit will work on the Priesthood to work in part of the country. We have some of the best land in that country, but we are lacking water. God said He would furnish that water if we would do our part. So I think the time has come for us to do our part. We must have more faith. While this little thought do as not pertain to the trip--the bubble that we have in prosperity now is going to break. The Lord has not revealed the time to me, but the time is not long before that bubble is going to break. Men receiving from $10 to $20 per day will be thrown out on their own resources. A clamor will come out of it, particularly in the east. There are enough men and women to fill the positions at the· present time, and men will give up their farms and everything to get those high wages. But that is going to break and when ten or fifteen million people are thrown out of work, people who have righteously lived on big salaries; it is going to be mobocracy, revolution; it is going to continue on that this country will not have a head; Congress will create chaos and they will be killing each other; autos will cease to run; airplanes will cease to run. People will come here in tens of thousands on foot for help. In the meantime, there will be many people in our group who will want to get away where the Lord has blessed the soil, where they can keep these large families from starvation. My impressions at the present time are that the south will be a gathering place for many of the people. I look upon that section as a very highly blessed section. The soil looks good enough to eat; and some of us do eat it, not intentionally. The Lord lives; the Gospel is true. Coming back: here we were very much elated to see this home almost entirely completed; class rooms for the children. Three months ago we did not have a place except in crowded conditions; and now we have this place and can enjoy His spirit and be with one another--renew our fellowship. It is an inspiring sight to see this congregation at the present time. You are happy prosperous, well-fed, well-clothed, as a rule. The blessings of the Lord are being rained down upon us. There is one thing the Lord expects of us--humility, not pride, and peace among us. I can see a wonderful future for this people. Our business is to keep the fires of faith alive in the minds of the people that they might believe the fullness of the laws that God has revealed to this dispensation. It is our business to help to build up the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and to be busy in the building up of the Kingdom of God; and if we will do this the Lord will never forsake us. When these calamities come upon us--and they will come--the time will come when your hearts will be wrung to desolation; the women will not find food enough to give to their children. But in accordance with the teachings that the Lord has given us, if we are faithful, we will be taken care of. If we do our part, He will take care of us. The question is, will we do our part. There are some in this house who are so thin skinned that every little thing knocks them off their perch and they lose their faith. In ending my remarks I want to give this thought--no matter what I do, my brethren do, to shake your faith, you must know which is right and which is wrong. You must have a testimony; and I am about to prophesy that there never was a time in the history of this people when we were in so strong a need of· a testimony as we are today. There are those among us who are polluting themselves, their religion; they are aspiring to be the "one mighty and strong;" they are indulging in all kinds of misrepresentation, falling· here and there the devil is getting his revelations across to this people. The Lord told us that if the people will not accept the revelations of the Lord as they came through their leaders, the mothers will receive revelations and they will believe a lie and be damned. We have men going around claiming to be the one mighty and strong. am mighty glad to see our sisters standing firm and faithful as a rule. They are receiving the Gospel and the truth and they are not being swayed away by every tone of Gospel being taught today. The devil is in the temple, in our homes and in our meetings sometimes. When you invite him in your home the elders cannot cast him out far you have invited him there. No matter who apostatizes, this people must stand on their own strength with their own knowledge, with the help of GOD and the spirit or God, and those stand will be used to build up 'this great Zion when the calamities come upon us. God bless you, .Amen.
Bro Marion Hammon: It was just three months ago last night that I drove all night coming from a trip to Idaho. Just three months ago today we signed the contract for this place, and you see what has been accomplished. I am grateful beyond expression for the help and the spirit that we have in this place. I feel that we have been lead by the spirit of the Lord in such a condition. And I am satisfied with the things that have been accomplished.. I do not recall a man working on this house that did not have his heart in his work. Many mistakes were made and Brother Otto come along and covered ' them up with his paper. That is the kind of' men and women who are going to build up the Kingdom of God. I pray the Lord will help me restrain myself in telling of our trip. I am grateful that whatever has been coming to my ears that I would not lose faith in Short Creek. Many stories have reached my ears but I still believe it is God's country. Jim Bridger told Brigham Young he would give him $1,000 for the first ear of corn he could raise with the help of God in this Salt Lake valley, and see what Brigham Young and the Saints did with this valley Nothing will ever build up Short Creek: except the spirit of God and the faith of the people, I tell you that in the name or the Lord. The time is come when that country has got to be built up That is the place of God and the Latter-day Saints have got to build it up. This people is the nucleus to build it up. Personally, I stand ready to help build it up and I think it is mighty cheap to refuse to help build it up with the things that we have. Many of you call me -a plain spoken person. I tell you this if Gad will stay with me to the end, I will stick to the last breath to help build it up. When the Saints were coming across the plains, at Winter Quarters (vanguard of men). the spirit of God was with them and they were ready to come. John Taylor was called before they left to go to England . Did he squirm and say no? No. He came to Salt Lake three years after the Saints settled in this valley because the Lord called him across the waters again to France and he preached the Gospel in New York: before he finally came west, though he desired to come with the first Saints. I suppose we expect to sit here in Salt Lake City and spend the rest of our lives and expect the blessings of the Lord to be with us. I am. not set upon anyone thing; I am not alone in my feelings. I know men who feel the same way who are in this room I imagine that some of you brothers and sisters who are matured in years, there are plenty of places for you. The Lord usually provides place for you. He usually has a place in the presiding over the Saint s at home. Rulon Jeffs, Guy Musser, and others of you young men, it is your business to go out and do the missions of the Lard. I have never found such a beautiful country as Short Creek in my life. I tell you this, it will remain just as it is if you do not build it up. If these Saints don't live in it, they will call in other who will. This people is going to go forward by the spirit of God. Are you, any of you loved by the people in this city? If you are you, you are either not living your religion, or they do not know who you are. If any of them love you, they are of the same faith that you are. I enjoyed the trip; I was in good company. I do not know of any better people to go with. There is more work to be done on this place. We need a crew of people here to give this floor another coat of wax, and a few other little things. Come Tuesday night prepared to help us and we will be ready to do the work. Brothers and sisters, let us not lose sight of our work. Let us not raise ourselves too high in our own estimation. I know as true as I live that if we do not go on, the Lord will find another people who will go on in His work. We have all prayed for a place where we could be free, trusting and honest, and dependable. I don't know of anything more delightful than to work with men and women with the work at heart. What were the instructions given to the brothers and sisters, even if they starved? Brigham Young sent a colony out to some place that was barren and told them not to come back even if they starved. And they didn't come back and they didn't starve. _(Gave 'an example of the three Hebrews cast in the fiery furnace.) You women, rally to the support of your husbands. I believe my wives are supporting me; they had the understanding to follow me from the beginning. I had someone come to me from the other side tell me what is expected of this people. I pray the Lord to bless us in the name of 1esus Christ, Amen.
Brother Rulon T. Jeffs;
Guy, I'll hold my tongue if you will. My brethren and sisters, from the first moment I heard the story of Short Creek for some unknown reason my spirit and feeling have been drawn there, in spite of all the stories I have heard. A year ago last March when we were asked to support the effort there, I said I am not going to fail to help build it up. Not until last January did I have an opportunity to go and visit that place. I'll never forget the feeling that went through my being when I saw that valley and it went through me again this time. I know what feeling Brigham Young had when he said, "This is the place." Brothers and sisters, I want to testify in the name of the Lord that is the place to build up our faith, and walk by faith. In Bingham Young's day men told him that this land was not worth a cent. We have the same thing here. We have a promise here, brothers and sisters, and I feel to say amen to all that Brother Joseph and Marion said. Here the Lord is giving us an opportunity' to build up another Zion. It has been prophesied that a temple would be built there. I testify that God's servants have been vindicated to build up that place. The thing that has been stressed upon me is the need for obedience. When the Lord's servants say "go", let us go. I love the story of the three Hebrews. I feel as strong as I am living, that if we go and help to build up the homes in Short Creek, the Lord will provide the water. I say, weaklings have not the courage to go there and stay there. I feel it is the stepping stone to the redemption of Zion. When we prove ourselves there, we will be ready to go back to Zion. The Lord 1s offering us another place as He did here. Brother Mari on said down there, he wondered what the Lord would place in our hands next. So as a humble servan t of God, I say, let us do what we are called upon to do by the Council. That is my testimony in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen
Brother Guy Musser:
I am glad my dear brother, Rulon,(and I mean it) made a covenant not to speak about certain things. I hope this venerable leader, Uncle John, will not betray our case. In case he does ,we have an ace in the hole. Much has been said and more could be said, but I feel so incapable in bearing my testimony. There is so much that lies ahead. When we think soberly, we become startled. When we think. of our parents, and forefathers before us and even hope to behold their faces, and think we can sit idly by and expect to then we are mistaken. And I 'can testify to that because I have grown up soft in relation to sacrifices, and have had plenty. But it has come to me that we as a people may be called upon to prove ourselves; that when Brother Hemmon said it is one of the starving grounds for the Latter Day Saints, I consider it a proving ground. From day to day we are doing things that seem to be obscure; but nevertheless they are tests. And each day we are being tested and we are proving ourselves to God, to our brothers and sisters, and to the men 1eading us and the men we must learn to love. I also have had to learn to love these men as we also love God. We have to learn to love each other. It is the disposition among this people that we cannot love each other as we should as brothers and sisters. Maybe it is because some of us are not very-lovable, but we must learn to love these men. To take direction is the key to success. and I know it is the hardest job for any woman or man when they come on this earth to take direction. The sisters will agree to . It is the first lesson and the hardest in this life. When you grow to then all things can be added to it. I know also that these brethren will call upon men and women to uphold the Kingdom of God on the earth. When I look back on the men and women who have made sacrifices in these latter years to uphold the Kingdom of God and the revelations of God, it thrills me, and spurs me on. Why they have been going to and fro in this country, being cursed by their loved ones, spit upon, etc.; yet through it all they have withstood it. When I consider these w:nderful things and achievements, I think we have nothing to complain about at what the Priesthood has laid before us. I have been on a mission, and otherwise, but I have never enjoyed the spirit of the Lord and enjoyed the companionship of brethren as I did on this trip. Their thoughts are pure and their desire is to keep the commandments of the Lord and to sustain His revelations; with them it is the Kingdom of God or nothing. I was glad to go down with them. I have seen a picture of this valley as Brigham Young saw it, but Short Creek is beautiful. It is raw, but it is beautiful. According to the training of the world, it is not worth the ashes of straw. Neither was this valley, nor Nauvoo. But it is the land of God; it is raw,-but this house was raw when we first saw it. Some men come and saw it and went away and wept. But faith, faith in the leaders, faith in the word of God--work, work, work, never ending toil; is what developed a house of God. is what will build up the empire of the future. It was prophesied there that that country would be built up only on the principles of righteousness; and if this people cannot be righteous enough to build up an empire, then God will raise up a people who will. I believe . is a potent prophecy and we cannot disbelieve that; it is true. But not one jot or tittle will fall from the earth. I have gone through the throws of poverty as well as enjoyed wealth, and I know what it will be if we can provide for ourselves where there is peace and where the Gentiles will despise it and never come our way. I have been out in the world for the last few years, until I have come to nearly despise the name. But brothers and sisters, they killed our Prophet and drove our people out; they separated the children from the mothers; they robbed us and left us a poor wayfaring band of people upon the edge of a dreadful waste land. And that was not enough. After building up an empire, hewing the soil, where we were given the principle of plural marriage and the higher principles of the Gospel, they followed us and drove us further, until under the pressure we gave up. I was not alive then, but a great grandson of that tormenter is tormenting me; and if those men (where I work) knew who I was, they would torment us and cast us in prison And also Ed Christensen. The minute we live openly the principle and speak of it, we would be cast out. The persecution of Nauvoo and other places would be one hundred strong. I believe in the movement to build up a place of peace, and majesty will be about us where we might be at home and feel at home from whence we came where God dwells. I hope for that condition and to live under that condition. So I with the rest, testify to you that these things are true. These feelings have been going through my system since going there. It may be a hell-hole to the rest of the people, but if the Priesthood says go, the we will go and it will be a heaven on earth, and if we starve doing our duty, all is well and we will go home; and we will not have to sneak and creep and the door will be open and we will hear, "well done, my good and faithful servant" What would have happened to Daniel , to Joseph, if they had given up the stake? It would have been better that they were never born. What else is there but this work? We might as well commit suicide for there is nothing else if we give up this work. I testify that it is my desire that I may become sweeter and one with this people who are working for the Lord. I pray that we might love one another. and sing and pray and develop the spirit that will give us hope and power that we need from day to day to carry out these things. In closing I remember the song "How Firm a Foundation", ye Saints of the Lord, etc." God bless you, Amen~
Song: "Now Let Us Raj o1ee."
Brother William Cook
was the next speaker (from Idaho) and he said how happy' he was for the privilege of being with the Saints, how thankful he was for his blessings that he has a testimony that rings true to the things said today. He bore his testimony that he knows who the servants of God are on the earth today, and thanked God for His revelations and the testimony of the Gospel he had, and he prayed for a stronger testimony concerning the Kingdom of God, and trusts in His Heavenly Father to guide him wherever he might be called by the Council to do, he will have the courage, and determination to do or die. He loves the work, the brethren and the Saints. {Story of Swedish woman whose home he stayed in.} He prayed that this people would become more united and strong at home and as a group; the love for each other might grow and overlook others weaknesses and help the m to overcome them.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
I just wanted to give out notice e to you that they are getting out apples in Provo for any that would like to go and get them. They are not large but you are welcome if you want to get them. Next Sunday is Fast Sunday. I have been greatly edified in what has been said and know that the possibilities are there and know that it is going to take a lot of work to get there, if we go ,and we must go with the intention of work. and a lot of hardships. We know , and anyone who has been there knows it. The possibilities are there. God bless you, Amen.
Choir: "Before Thee Lord, I Bow My Head." Benediction: Brother Ed Christensen LJAllred
7 November 1942
Meeting
Dedication Conference Meeting Saturday Night, November 7, 1942, 7:300 p.m. Priesthood Home, 2157 Lincoln Street, Salt Lake City, Utah,
Brother J. Marion Hammon presided.
Brother Joseph Lyman Jessop conducted.
1st Song: "Love At Home. Prayer: Brother Otto Olschewski.
Remarks by Brother Lyman Jessop:
This is a beginning of a Conference of' the group, most whom are not welcome in wards, etc. Grateful for theme "The Kingdom of' God or Nothing." (Fred Morrison furnished framed motto) Lorin Woolley, "Don't pray f'or Kingdom to come--it is here. Pray for it to be established." Reading: by Brother Rulon C. Al1.red, "Day Is Done" by Longfellow. Song: Trio composed by Golda Woolley, sung by her, Lucy Musser and Anna Broadbent, "The seven"; accompanied by Marie Broadbent.
Remarks by Brother John Y. Barlow':
Hearing " song takes me back when. Uncle John and Lorin were here teaching us true order of priesthood, but I was not satisfied just what he was teaching, and I got a testimony of my own. He taught-me things of that kind and continued it. That which he taught—this is a result of so many here today. I want you to know that Uncle Lorin was under a' covenant and, he could not do much in the way we are doing; but after he went, Brother Joseph, Charles and the others were not under the covenant, and we could go ahead to preach the Gospel in its fullness as others who were tied down could not do. They told me many things,. Many of you wonder why Joseph F Smith did not come out and say wanted to. Because the Lord said to hold on and let them fill out the measure of their iniquities. And we have to be careful if we are not when we dome to take the tares, we will take the wheat also. But this building show what can be done by a few people. As Joseph Smith said, "Give me 12 men who will follow the Lord as directed and we can fight them all" God bless this people and may the spirit of unity and love be in our hearts. Remember this motto here, "The Kingdom of God or Nothing." If we live up to that we will live every law God has laid down 'for us. God bless you, Amen.
Duet: by Rulon T. Jeffs and Leona J. Allred, "Somewhere A Voice Is Calling," accompanied by Mabel Allred and Margaret Musser, piano and violin.
Brother David W. Jeffs:
I thought I was going to be a listener. When Brother Lyman referred to this picture of Joseph Smith, it brought my mind and feeling back to some 55 years ago when I was alone at home and a man came to sell a picture like it, and another only smaller. I shall never forget the feeling that come over me when I purchased that picture ,when I handled the pictures. They were taken by different members of the. family, and now I don't know where they are. Whenever a mention is made of the Prophet there is a thrill that goes from the crown of' my head to the souls of' my feet. We listened to the song of Rulon and Leona, bringing back to the time of their childhood and they use to play a duet on the piano. And I thought of the things that went through my mind of them then they are God' s children loaned to us. When I came here to work on this home there was a solemnity of feeling that permeated me, and during over 60 days of labor I lost myself in the work I was doing, not asking for anything or aspiring for anything, but just working in building up the Kingdom of God. In all the work that I did, I never thought I did as much as Brother Lyman. And now that it is being given to the brethren, a thrill permeates my being. As I sat upon my chair I was analyzing these brethren and I thought of' my childhood when men leading the church. were of the same standing, leading in the priesthood. It is wonderful to associate with these brethren and not being curtailed, and thank God from the bottom of my heart that I can assist in the Priesthood home; and above all for a testimony and witness of the Lord Jesus Christ, saying that those who will obey the Gospel will attain godhood. I feel that I have a long way to go to learn the principles of godship. I thank God for the privilege of associating with you people. I want to tell you in the name of the Lord that we are not the only people here present today the Priesthood and holy messengers have an eye upon this audience and angels are silent notes taking; and if we could reach through the veil and remain true,· the time will come when the veil will be removed. And it will be the Kingdom of God or nothing. God bless you, Amen.
Violin Solo: by Margaret Musser, "Sundown", accompanied by Mabel Allred (Londonderry Air'
Comments by Lyman Jessop – Violins will heaven--yes Radio--its wonders.
Associates here --priesthood. Bro Marion.
Brother Marion Hammon:
It is not so much in life what you do; it is the thing that makes· you accomplish it. There have been more beautiful places than this peopled, greater numbers at work, people with greater faith on the earth than. we, but I am. grateful to be numbered among a class of people that are not afraid. When I thought of this program and the exercises this evening, I felt that there would be a. time of reminiscence. I knew that the older members of the Council would look back upon their early introduction to this work. I was confident that this people would look back. upon the people that-used to preside over you. And so it was I had in mind the program brought before· you. There is one regret-- people increase in number and you cannot be so near to them. When we have a few, we know each other and talk them by their first names. I c an say that 95% of you know and know your troubles and problems. But it is a nearness that sparkles in the faces of the Saints when they are living the Gospel. Men and women can go and shake hands with the Saints .and they can tell whether they be a high one in rank or a lowly one in station. I would not give much for the future prospects of this people if you fail in your mission. Those of you that have a testimony that burns in your souls and you are riding back on it, you are finished. If you ever try to redeem it you will have a mar on it. I felt that when we began this work (on the house) that the Lord had removed the blockade. This is only· the place where we can meet together and encourage each other and go about our work. I hope it comes down if it is ever desecrated. I know you do not appreciate all the work that has been put into this place. Men have done this work because they wanted to. Men have come here without their meals and come to work because they wanted to. Men serve God because they want to, not because they have to. I would like to see you people still your feelings a little better. There are none of you so old or so young that you cannot stand to wake up. There has been no people that I have loved so much--so easy to forgive your faults and failings and still love you so much. I do not know whether we have 12 men who could build up the Kingdom of God. I see some of you that have tried and are not able to stay put. Are you willing to sit down now and let it be said that this is the end? Are you willing to say this is good enough for me? This is not good enough for me. I pray that 'the Lord will take it away if I do. We are not trying to boast the place up, but under the circumstances it is like a spring in the desert; if we hold our church in the desert, in the trees, on the banks of a river, we must still have "the spirit of God with us. I am not afraid to ask any man to do anything if it is for the up building of the Kingdom of God.. There are some men I am willing to put on a test. I am anxious to prove anyone for the Kingdom of God. Our faith is founded upon a sound principle. I know many of you people are afraid to try the Lord. If Moses can strike a rock and have water burst forth, so can we. There are " people in this room who have seen storms evaded, seen their children snatched from' ditches, etc., and I know those people are not afraid to try the Lord. We have got to have a transfusion infused into our bodies. If the prayers of the righteous are sent to the Lord, He will try and test us. I was glad to hear Brother Jeffs say he thanked the Lord he can still work with his hands. I hope that I never would rather be among men who lay down "their tools to go out and in joy nature who want their fishing, etc. If any man loves the 1lhings of this earth more than God., he will have his stomach full. I love this work; how long I will be able to endure, I do not know. I am willing to forgive all men of their trespasses. I commend the brethren and sisters who have worked and on this place. The Counsel have given me the job of overseeing this work and I appreciate the work you brethren and sisters have given I rejoiced in the work and the workers that were with me. The Lord will require honest endeavor before you can partake of the fat of the land. I encourage you to build up, come up. I am thankful for this opportunity of expressing myself. I am happy and joyful with this opportunity. I know "the Lord will not bring the time men we will not be able to speak our minds freely, and that will be the case if we come here with the right spirit and hearts. I pray this in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Song: "How Firm a Foundation."
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
This is a surprise occasion with 1he exception of "those who are giving music. I suppose they were notified previously. My feelings have been very much aroused tonight. I think this is an occasion that will impress itself' upon our hearts for a long time. I think it was about four months ago that the thought of getting a home was mentioned in a meeting of some of us, a home· that Brother Barlow might occupy, inasmuch as it was necessary for him to move; and one. of the main reason was he had to move was that it was too small where he was living. He has so many visitors. The brethren took the suggestion seriously and it was suggested that each each of' you put in #10 we would raise enough money from that congregation at that time to make an initial payment on a piece of' property. Within the next monthly meeting that amount had been raised or promised. In. the mean time we looked around for something; we tried to buy two or three homes, but the Lord did not let us have them so One night about midnight Brother De Yonge called Brother Barlow up and said, "I have the place you want" They met, and I with them, and. we came to this house we were all· impressed this was the place. It was on that occasion that we met with our brethren and took it up with them, and we had to raise $800 as the first payment. We were to pay $100 dawn and . $400 within :30 days and 30 days to pay the $300. We paid the $800 in time. We have paid and raised over #2700 in cash. We are out of debt, except some that we have not been able to get an account of, and we have the money to cover it. We have this piano which cost $95.00. We put in a new furnace--over $400; we spent $249 in plumbing fixtures, etc. The big part of the expenditures, $900.00, (I left the note of it at home in another coat) but I think the building material we used (hardware, paint, etc.) amounted to $900.00. represent s materials only. Labor would cost at least . This is one of the miracles of the day. If' we had been told three months ago that we would have had to raise $2700.00 in cash, we would have hesitated I am sure; but it would have looked too big for us. Now we have done it; tomorrow afternoon this building will be dedicated, to the Lord so far as we own it. We are still paying monthly installments on it. We have three apartments occupied. I feel that every individual that has contributed to the expense of this building, or to the work in this building willingly, with that motto in their hearts, "The Kingdom of God or Nothing," worked in the wee small hours of the morning, they are on the honor roll, and the eyes of Almighty God are upon them, and they will go on. We have another step--the insurance program for burial. This insurance policy is under the direction of Brother Rulon C. Allred and has proven that this group of people have been able to start a cooperative movement that has stuck up to date. We do not call it the united order, but this is a cooperative effort. Each of us pay in a little a month, and when one in our group dies, a decent burial is provided. Now that is on its feet; this little project in this building looked like a little one; it has cost us $1700.00 in addition to the initial payment on the home. It has all been done by inspiration--stairs, light fixtures, clock, flag, pictures of Brigham Young and others. This shows "the spirit of cooperation. Brigham Young tried to accomplish these thing this little group of people are on their way to make it Brother Hammon spoke of our going ahead--he is very emphatic and I love it. (He then quoted from Brigham Young: "When I think upon . this subject (tried to brace the people up with zeal) etc.) Are these people breaking their everlasting covenants No, they are the people that have been preparing this home and building it up; they are preparing to dedicate themselves to the Lord. I feel grateful to be associated with you brethren and sisters. You would be surprised at the interest of the people all over the world who are writing to us for information. President Smith did things as President of the Church which he would not do as a member of the Priesthood Council if he had to forfeit his life, because the people of the Church demanded it. We want you to understand that in this day and age Satan is in the saddle; we are surrounded by Babylon; we cannot be as plain as we would like to be; Brother Woolley and Brother Broadbent could not say and do the things that we are doing but we are doing it now and the Lord is protecting us. Brigham Young taught us this that from now on I will never spend another dollar only on the thought that it will help to build up the Kingdom of God; in other words, not spend your money with the world if you can possibly help it. If you will do that this Kingdom will go up by leaps and rounds. This has been revealed--the Kingdom has not yet been fully set up, but this little group of people will take the next step and the rest will be presented to them by the servants _of the Lord. We will establish the Kingdom of God and it will be established and rule over this nation. I love that flag, and instead of the stars it will be and it. will spread over this nation and Christ Jesus will be King, and you, my brothers and sisters, will be servants in that Kingdom. God bless you, .Amen
Remarks: Brother Marcus Wayman (who is leaving far the amy).
Soprano Solo: Jenna Vee Hanmon, "Bless This House".
Remarks: Brother Lyman Jessop"Th1s house will be dedicated, not just by prayer, by our actions Let us keep in mind that our actions dedicate and keep dedicating this house. _ Remarks: Brother Charles Zitting (concerning Edson Jessop, and an affidavit to keep him out of the army.
Closing Song: "Hope of Israel". Benediction: -Brother V. Riedl. LJAllred.
8 November 1942
Meeting. at 2:00 p.m
Minutes or Dedication or Priesthood Home, 2157 Lincoln Street Salt Lake City, Utah., Sunday Afternoon November 8, 1942 at 2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.
1st Song: "True to the Fait h" Prayer: Brother Joseph S. Jessop 2nd Song: "Now Let Us Rejoice"
Brother John Y. Barlow (remarks):
We are surely well pleased with the spirit and turn out so far in this meeting. We are now going to ask Brother Joseph to dedicate this place. I want to say to you people that we were set apart to dedicate homes and houses. was one of the special blessings given us brethren at the time we were set apart.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
As was observed by one of the brethren last night, the real dedication comes from our own hearts that all things may be for the Kingdom of God. There are angels here from the other side taking notes, and they will report this proceedings to the Priesthood on the other side to the extent that we give our hearts, our souls, to this occasion; to that extent will we feel the spirit and influence here, and to the extent that we will carry this out in our future lives that we will increase and grow, have better light, go fourth and accomplish our missions in better form. Let us dedicate this home: "Oh God, our Eternal Father, through they graciousness and goodness and kindness unto us, we have assembled in this beautiful. place in order to present it unto thee. We have asked thee for it for many months we have prayed for a place in which we might meet comfortably and pleasantly and worship thee, and that we might better keep Thy commandments. Thou hast given us this place and we have fixed it up under the inspiration of Thy spirit, made alterations and placed it in the position that Thou art pleased with us and our efforts. We appreciate that all good efforts come from Thee and we are blessed of Thee. And now in the authority of the Priesthood which we hold and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we present this beautiful and substantial building unto Thee, it may be used not only for a dwelling place for those whose efforts and lives are for the up building of the Kingdom of God, but that it may be for an assembly of Thy Saints we pray that Thy holy spirit may be in the rocks and bricks of this building that it may be of thee filled with light, that it shall be free from the elements and free from sin and corruption, and that it may be filled that eventually we may have a larger place. To this end we dedicate it with the furniture. We pray that Thy holy spirit may rest upon it forever. We are grateful for the understanding and light of the Gospel, and we pray with that light and understanding that if any corruption comes to this place that Thou wilt destroy it, and if we in any way desecrate it that thou wilt deprive us of .the blessings of the home. And we pray, oh God, we may grow and increase in knowledge and. Understanding that this group of people may become united in all things and that it may grow that Thy kingdom may become the power and light upon the earth. We pray especially for the Priesthood Council that wherein they have erred and sinned they may be forgiven that they may carry on Thy Work shall be completed and Thy Sanhedrin shall be fully organized, when righteousness shall prevail and the Millennium come in. And we ask that Thou wilt touch each one of us with thy holy spirit and cause that we may have the opportunity to serve Thee. Help us to get our houses set in order as Thou hast promised us that Thy house will be set in order, with our wives that have not been in order, and with their husbands, the Priesthood, those who have faults, we pray that Thou wilt purify them. Whom thou loveth, Thou chasten that. We pray that we will be chastened that we may be brought low, through our humility we may spread the truth. Bless our efforts to this end; sanctify this house and the efforts of those who have contributed to this house; we pray that they may be enlarged, their families may have the necessities of life that Satan may not have power over us. We pronounce these blessings upon all in this house and their families, and all who keep Thy commandments and we do it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.;-
Brother Arnold Boss:
I sincerely pray that the Lam will bless me with a measure of His spirit, I may say things of benefit to you. I am grateful and thankful for the privilege of being here today and to worship with the brothers and sisters; and I am grateful that we have a place to meet. (He then spoke of how this group of people had been cast out of the Church and why.) I am 'grateful to the Lo rd with you people that I am here today, and we have a testimony of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am grateful that my parent s accepted the Gospel in Switzerland. (He spoke of how his father accepted the Gospel and came to the U.S.) I am grateful for my heritage in these valleys of the mountains. (He then spoke of the early saints, how they were driven from Nauvoo; the fasting and praying they did; the vision Brigham Young had of these valleys and mountains etc.; how they came here.) These valleys of the mountains have been blessed time and time again by the servant s of God. Why are we in the same condition today as the Nephites were-because the people have turned against the Gospel of the Lord and His commandments. So it is time that .this people repent and turn our backs on the things of the world. You cannot have the blessings· of God. on your head unless you keep. the commandments of God.· I am grateful and thankful that you people are manifesting a faithfulness in your Eternal Father. If you are not·, you will be separated from those who go on with the work of the Eternal Father. I thank God for the testimony I have of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Remember the early meetings we had as a group of Saints. Many people are awakening. I know the spirit of God is working upon the Saints, and ,one of these days they will hear the sound of the call from God.
Choir: "Come, Come Ye ·saints."
Brother Roy Johnson:
My brothers and sisters, I am happy to be here today and partake of the spirit that has attended this conference. I testify to you in the name of the Lord that never before in my life has my soul been more thrilled than it has been in this conference.. and I pray that in the few moment s that I stand before you that the spirit of God will attend me that we will be fed the pure bread of life. Last night one of the speakers told about the thrill of the feeling that went through his soul when he looked upon the picture behind me--Joseph Smith--I to-have witnessed that feeling today. If we have the true spirit of Jesus Christ, how can we help but feel the thrill and go on with determination to serve God ·when we look upon the picture of the Prophet, through whom the Gospel was restored. Never before in my life have I felt more of the determination to go. forward and prove the motto that hangs behind me: "The Kingdom of God of' Nothing." I have .heard men bear their testimony, as strong a testimony as I have ever heard, and make the remark that they would. rather die than to lose or go against the testimony that they have received. In later years I have heard those same men deny the testimony that they bore. It cut me to the core for I loved those men and love them yet, and pray that they will bear that same testimony again, :for God will bring them down to it, for they will know that the people here today have got the Gospel of Christ. There is only one way to get the spirit of God and keep it. When we get the spirit of God we should never do a thing that will displease that spirit; try each day: to live a little better than we did the day before. If we will do by prayer, and keep all the commandments that God has given, we can do it and keep that testimony. But when we listen to every wind of doctrine that we hear, this and , hear men run the Priesthood Council down, and we listen. to it, we cannot help but lose the spirit. It is up to us to put ourselves in a position where we can discern good from evil, truth from evil; and it is up to every individual to get a testimony of Jesus Christ and the spirit of God and then keep it. We might think we are strong enough to go out now and battle with the elements of a new country and to overcome the obstacles of a new place and build. it up, but without the spirit of God we cannot do it. We are going to have to get down on our knees and pray for strength. We are going to have to get down on our knees and pray for this people. Condit ions are going to get in these valley s of the mountains in the near future so that we will have to find new places to live. Some of us are going to have to get down and pioneer end get out where it is peaceful, for the Lord is going to cleanse this valley. These are not my words, but those of the prophets before me. We have been told that times would be when this people ,would suffer greatly, and I want to tell you all that If you want to stay with the people of the Lord you have got to say "The Kingdom of God or Nothing" and you will have to fight for the principle that was given to us by Joseph Smith; we have got to stand up and say that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and the men. in back of me are His servants. I want to bear you my testimony that Jesus is 'the Christ and that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and that we stand for the same principles. I bear this in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
I sincerely hope and pray that God will pour out His spirit upon me and enlighten your minds, perhaps add to your knowledge of the Gospel and add to your joy therein. The greatest joy I have in life is serving God and, keeping Hi s commandment s. The greatest knowledge I have is the knowledge that I have of the Gospel I knowing that it is truly the work of God and that I might, while in the flesh, make my calling and election sure and hear my Master and know His voice. And that should be the aspiration of every Latter-day Saint. We are, blessed people, blessed beyond our worthiness, blessed beyond our abilities to enjoy; because if we could see and appreciate our blessings our lives would be lives of gratefulness and prayer. It is wonderful to be in a house dedicated to God; it is wonderful to have contributed in a small measure to make it as comfortable and nice as it is, and I am grateful that I and my family have this privilege of meeting with you people. The time is now upon us, to my understanding of the Gospel which is a great and terrible day of the Lord. It is great to those of us who know the Gospel and see the transpiring events as to the words of the prophets of God, and it is terrible beyond measure to the wicked who are seeking to destroy the work of God. The unfortunate thing is that because the world is in wickedness, the righteous often suffer with the wicked. (He then gave a quotation from Brigham Young) So let us not judge one another. Let us know that the righteous have to suffer with the wicked; let us sanctify our lives. How beautifully and wonderfully we fulfill the words of Jeremiah, "For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water." (Jer. 2: 13) I pray God that we will not be in that classification; we will set our lives in order. This day I thank God for the privilege of acknowledging my sins and weaknesses. I resolve from day to day to do better, but each day I do not do as good as I should. There are things that we can all do to improve. There are few of us as a people here that walk in obedience to some of the cardinal and lesser principles. I am willing to judge myself, for I know I have not kept the Sabbath day holy like I should; I know I have spoken evil of my brothers and sisters, which is an evil in the sight of the Lord. I know that I have not paid my tithes and offerings as I should. Let us start to get oil in our lamps. Are we loving our brother as we should? Are we extending a helping hand to those we profess to love? Is our eye truly single to the glory of God; Remember the "words of our Savior that we will be judged according to what we do and not what we say. "Blessed are they hear my word, but more blessed are they that keep it." Let us go forth today resolving with all our might and mind to go forth to cleanse ourselves from sin and do better; walk in obedience to all God's commandments, we will follow our leader and do as we are counseled; remember our -prayers and draw near to the Lord and keep in communion with God. Let us set our lives in order and our families in order so that God can use us, for we as a people are not ready to be used. If we are not used, it is our fault. I the Lord, am bound when ye do what I say; but when ye do not what I say, ye have no promise." (D. &. C. 82:10) I can tell you as a servant of God, God is ready to use you and me when we are ready to be used. God bless you, and help us all to do better, I pray in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Charles F. Zitting:
I first became _acquainted with the fullness of the Gospel about 18 years ago. About 15 years ago this August I undertook to live the fullness of the Gospel. At that time at Brother Woolley's home we felt happy if eight or ten people could get together. We felt that " we had really accomplished. something. Yet there has been that at least that many young couples married in the last month that or two. We that see many new faces in our meetings. (He then told of how he had his boys plant grain with him; how they irrigated and harvested it, and that it turned out to be a good crop, because of the good care; and he talked to the boys about that crop.) that field of grain reminds me of this group of people here today. You don't see many heads· that are shrunk. I often wonder just where we will go next; this house is really too small now. With the numbers increasing and new babies, we will need more room. I wonder where we will be. Brother Broadbent used to say he does not look too far ahead, but keeps praying he will live right from day to day. When the time comes when this room is not large enough, I know that the Lord will show us the next step. I feel very good with this people in a temporal way. (Repeated Brother Joseph' s words about the repairs. ) While the Saints have been doing this, they have bought their own homes. They are improving them and making them of good use. I believe that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is first in their hearts in winning salvation, in helping their brothers, etc. I am going to call upon you people to be charitable to one another in your weaknesses Let us not be in a hurry to judge. Let us not look for the mote in our neighbor eye. There might be more in your own eye. Job--peop1e said he sinned. Those who judged Job, when they said he sinned, God was so displeased with those people he would not listen to their prayers until they got Job to pray for them. We must teach our children the Gospel and we are all children. If we see where any of them are going astray, some are stepping aside, let us give them a chance, teach them. While you are making so much money, do not forget the poor. Do not forget your brother. Above all let us not forget one tenth to the Lord. How easy it is to pay tithes in a religious way when they are making much. But when the income is small, it is not so easy. The word of wisdom--1et us live it and set an example to our children. The same with every principle that God has set upon the earth. Brigham Young at one time said, "Do not ride hobby horses; do not take one principle and ride it to death. If you must have a hobby horse, let it be the Gospel of Jesus Christ in its fullness. Provide for your families both temporally and spiritually does not mean neglect temporal blessings and work on the spiritual, nor vice versa. Brigham Young said, "You will stay in hell until you Saint s bring yourselves into subjection to the-·commandment s that of God". It is principle that is going to that get you out that or hell. We are going through hell, because it is Satan's rule; it is the last part of Satan's reign. It is like raising crops in the desert._ It has the sunshine, the soil, but not the water. This little group of people is like an oasis in the desert. Let the enemy be subdued. God is subduing wicked right now. Do not have fear if we see our own cities and shores blazed. The wicked have got to be cleansed. This nation as well as all the nations of the world has got to be cleansed. The flag--under that flag and that flag only could the fullness of the Gospel be established. Another reason why I love that flag is because it is almost a duplicate of the flag of the Kingdom of God. We love this land, and it is enjoying more of the freedom of speech and thought than any other in the world today. But men in our country would like to force rule. That is Satan's plan ,to force people to be good You will see it cleansed from this land as it has from all lands. The Lord said--do not be afraid, do not sin, stand ye in holy places, etc. This fight is going on, but unless the wicked are cleansed completely, it will continue to be cleansed until it is cleansed, I prophesy that in the name of the Lord. It will be cleansed to prepared for the coming at the Lord. We will have to be the teacher, be the example. It is not so· much for you. people to be good talkers. It is a lot for you to get a home and family of your own and teach those children right and teach the Gospel by example to the world, and to your children by example. Let us strive to do better each day, not become high minded because of the things of the world. Let us pray night and day. Do not do a thing without dedicating it to the Lord and tell the Lord what you want to do and tell Him it is for Him. I. guarantee that you will always be successful -- is my promise to you, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen .
Piano Solo: Miss Marie. Broadbent.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
My brothers and sisters, I have been greatly filled up with the· remarks we have heard this afternoon. When we look around here and see the pictures . (Brigham Young, the Prophet, etc.) it make s us feel pretty small. It doe s me. I do not feel that I am capable of taking the place of any of those men. But I do know that God calls us to the positions we are in; and for that reason. in·our weak way we are trying to fulfill our calling s. I think I have been with this group or other groups for about 25 years--been on the firing line all that time. I know that the Gospel is true. I know that these principles that we are advocating are true. I know that if we don't live the law that gives us eternal increase we will not have eternal increase, and when we get to a certain place we will stop. That will be the end of our increase. We know those thing s, and it does not make any difference to me who tries to stop me. If we don't get there, the leaders will be to blame, some say. (He then gave the story of the lost purse.) The same with the laws of God, you cannot blame it on someone else. You are going to be the loser, if you do not live the laws of God. I have heard some say that you have got to get something more than the Manifesto to put the blame on. It was God who said these things that we are advocating. Now brothers and sisters, we have been together long enough. I ask God to bless -each and. every one of you and hope we will keep the commandments of God. Now this place is dedicated we hope that the young people will not laugh and chase and run in this house. The Lord has said. the t loud laughter is a sin to Him. From now on if I tell you to stop I do not want you to feel offended, I hope that when we have our dances here that they will carry themselves right and open and dismiss with prayer. Have a good time but not be rowdy. God bless you, Amen.
Choir: "Hosanna Anthem. It Closing Prayer: Brother James Martin.
Number present was about 325 LJAllred.
EVENING MEETING
Dedication Priesthood Home, 2157 Lincoln St. Salt Lake City, Utah, at 7:30p.m. November 8, 1942
Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.
1st Song: "Sweet Is the Work" Prayer: Brother Owen Allred 2nd Song: Choir –"Let the Mountains Shout for Joy" (1)-"High On the Mountain Top"
Brother Marion Hammon:
I was caught napping too. My feelings seemed to reach a climax last evening. when I saw the congregation gathering· after this house was completed my soul was led to rejoice. It is one of the hardest things for us to come to the place where we are ready to do the will of God. I am mighty happy with the proceedings thus far. I was well pleased with the spirit this afternoon. When Brother Allred was called he said he was surprised. I was not. I knew yesterday. If there is a man trying hard to live his religion it is Brother Rulon . He represents this people in a way in which some of you little realize. He is head of the insurance program. Some of you look upon him as a bad collector. It has always been my intent that the Mormon people should look after their old people as long as they are able to. I am a strong believer that the old people should not come to live with the younger people and try to boss them around. That is why I believe so strongly in the order of Enoch as long as a man is able to-labor he should do it. There is a strong practice among the Gentiles that after a man I o my age he is no good any more. Now brothers and sisters, I do not believe there is any opportunity offered in this age as the Gospel of Jesus-Christ for expansion. It offers a marvelous opportunity for people to preach. Men are called from the congregation and get a chance to express themselves. I heard a missionary say that the most important thing about his mission is to' get home and talk to them and tell them what he had on his mind. The Prophet Joseph Smith declared that one of his greatest ambitions was to break down the traditions of the age. -I hope we will do the rest that Joseph Smith did not do or could not do. I believe in calling a spade a spade. I have heard so many men in this congregation say that they stand for the Kingdom of God or Nothing and I believe the Lord will really give them a test to see what they can do. He is willing to let us step forward and see what we can do. T. R. (Dockstader) felt discouraged a short time ago and said that the Lord was_ holding us down I believe it. I cannot think of anything that was better than to have the Lord push Uncle John out in the street and leave the home he was in. We have gone forth and showed our willingness that we can go forward.· I remember that we looked forward to 1940 -1-2 and 3 to seeing something come. We can see that 1944-5 are going to be terrific. I do not feel it is any too soon to start preparing. I had the opportunity of listening to the attitude of the people of this congregation this afternoon. I felt the disposition to go forward to do something. Charles said we would have to pray night and day. I say this--you are going to have to pray in overalls. I have listened to old timers in my-life and hear them talk about building railroads. Who built it? The man in the overalls did; the work, not the ones with brains. I know incidents in my own father's life where the community was destitute and he hooked up a horse and sleigh and went out in the deep snow, getting a sleigh load of moose· and elk and took it to the Saints to keep them from dying. We ourselves have heard it prophesied in old times and modern times that we will have to take care of the poor. I believe we are the people to care for the destitute. You sisters have got to rally to your husband's; you are going to have to uphold the hands of your husbands. I am sure of this the young men of this people have a real work ahead of them. They are going to have the opportunity of expression that many young men have never had. They are going to work and accomplish things. I am thankful that we have the type of men among us that we have. If you were to call all. the people together in this group you would have all the class of men necessary to build an empire--carpenters, machinists, etc., etc. We have men who have fought the desert. I am sure that the feelings of you people have become aroused sufficient to call upon the Lord. "Those who have not will be catching it like a case of the measles. When I saw this house 'so full of people, I thought well we have got to forget this place and start on another. Let us feel that way we are ready to start on something better. God will give you the fat of the earth if you will just serve Him. When I see the magnitude of the things that our Father in Heaven has in store for the Saints, it dumb- founds me. (He then spoke of the growth of the automobile.)The Lord is going to give the faithful an earth; if they do not know how to run it, He is going to put us through a tutoring that will make us become gods. How weak I am when I think of it. I find this that if we are working and busy, we do not have so much time for sin. The old people get together and talk about how wicked the young people are. They do not have time to think about how they did the same things. We expect to be called into the temples of God and call upon the spirit of God to protect us. Do you think you can indulge in loud laughter? If I expect my children to be quiet and orderly, I have got to be. If I have got to clean my feet at the door, I have got to do it. I think the children would do a marvelous work if the parents set the right example. I see my children have marvelous prospects. I see them doing better than I. 'We must learn to do sacred things. We must learn to do' the will of God, and not talk about it. Back in the days of Lorin Woolley when they had eight or ten people get together they were just as faithful as we are or more. They were few in number to be faithful. Let us brace up our shoulders and put on our overalls. I have a piece, a favorite which I clipped from the paper called "The Man In His Overalls." I pray that we will rally to the ranks and do our mission and duty; You people have come out of the Church for a purpose. If you have embraced it you have accepted obligations. Many people in this house have entered celestial laws and it requires everything you have on the altar and service of God. I pray that you may go forward. I am going to try it and. have a lot of. good company. I have a few that are good company· now may the Lord help us to do our duty, I ask in the name of the of Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Louis Kelsch:
I knew it. I am glad I came~ If Marion knew that Brother Allred was going to speak, I can tell you that three months ago I knew I was going to be called upon when I came to the next meeting. (Told a joke of a drunk and the light post) We are very fortunate to have this place. I feel really humble. I know if we ever lived in a:day and age that it is going to take all we have got in us to come out on top, we have got to be truly humble and sincere. I say that in order for us to withstand what is ahead of us, we will have to do more than sit here in this meeting, and believe what we are doing is right. If we want to be saved, we have got to know what we are doing. Seamen don't set sail unless they know where they are going and know how to navigate their boats. And we have got to know how to navigate our boats on the sea of life. Brigham Young knew· how to set sail and knew what course to follow. But he said he could not tell the people. the way because they didn't follow Jesus knew the way. Because John Taylor knew the way does not save us; we must know how to get saved and really become exalted. I mean that you have to know what you are actually doing in order to bring you in the final exalted state. The very thing that encourages men and women to get a hold upon the iron rod so they can be saved has been taken away from the people of the Church '. I just finished, reading the Book of Mormon--the Lamanites were tempted to dig up their arms and protect themselves, but they withstood that urge for they made a covenant with God that they would not raise their swords against their enemy; and they moved back to a place where they; would not be attacked by the enemy. The Savior said, "He that will not take up his sword against his enemy will flee to Zion for safety" Where is ,Zion today? Where we can exercise our agencies. I have had a feeling for a long time about these younger brethren called and inducted into the war. I feel sad, not because I fear for their lives, but that they are called into that condition at all. The Mormon boys have no recourse. We cannot say we want to fight, because our Church sends out fighters and boasts about it. I cannot say by myself that I do not believe in fighting. I am one against a nation. All nations are drafting men and women. It applies to you women too. I do not like to see that and the Lord still said if we will not take up our sword against our neighbor, we must flee to Zion. "Give me liberty or give me death" I love this continent and the. principles of truth, and the Constitution of tlle United states--it is the best on this earth. I still feel we should not be forced to do something that we feel is not right to do. We should pray for the corning of the One Mighty and Strong. Many, are lead by the precepts of men. But if you think you are ,not in. bondage try to get out of it. I have never made more and had less in my life. I do not know where it goes. I work -like a beaver, but you should see my place. It is uncanny. There are many arraigned against us. I do not believe it would be amiss to ask the One Mighty and Strong to set things in order. I see a need more than ever for it. If they start drafting 18 year old men, then what? I read a piece in the paper that they need so many women to be drafted in the war. The Saints do not want that It is t time for us to be sincere. In spite of all this, the Gospel is true, Joseph Smith is a prophet of God, and Jesus is the Christ and He lead the way. If we are not careful we may even find people among us in this day and age that will qualify as Gods. Let us try and follow the example set by the men who have gone before. The Gospel is true and it is the only thing we have to hold on in this day. If it wasn't for the Gospel and the hope of a bet tar day and condition, a time when honorable and just men will reign, and righteous laws and righteous men to exercise those laws, it would be an awful day. I want to be one to be in that Kingdom. All the sins we commit will have to be atoned for. That weighs me down. That is serious, and it weighs me down. We want the time to come when we can say with authority what to do to atone for our sins. We want to stand and look Joseph Smith and God in the eyes and be humble. We can all be saved and exalted in the highest glory, and to do that we have got to live the laws that will get us there. God helps us to hang on, to get a renewed determination to get a stronger hold ,on the rod of iron to carry us thru the straits that we are in, because it will be a long time before we come out in the sunlight May we attain that is my prayer in the name. of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Choir: "0 Divine Redeemer" (ladies).
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
I was all set for the voice and if we had had our eyes closed we might have thought J. Golden Kimball had been resurrected. I always like to hear Brother Kelsch. We have Brother Kelsch and Brother Hammon to keep us awake It is hard for me to stay awake, you know . Brother Kimball used to keep them laughing with swear words. It is very refreshing to listen to them. This has been a spiritual feast To these singers--I think their performance has been marvelous. I heard. the "Hosanna Anthem" at the time of the dedication of the Temple, and I have heard it rendered by Evan Stephens, but I have never heard it when it stirred my soul as it did today, this afternoon. It is a testimony to me of the wonderful out-pouring of the spirit of the Lord upon this choir. No one can convince me that there were not messengers here from the other side, today. They will take a splendid report back.. This congregation has been imbued with the spirit of the Lord and the speakers have been imbued with the spirit of the Lord. We are going from this conference with a renewed spirit to go forward--a determination to go forward. This group of people are on the march to go again on and forward. Bra. Marion said we were on the stand-still and we are on the road again. But we have been doing some praying the Priesthood Council and the Lord have started something. Next Tuesday night some of you will meet in Genealogy; Sunday night you meet in Mutual Improvement Association. The time has come when the Genealogy work. has got to register in our hearts, and as the Lord through our prophets has stated, --the most important work· is to redeem our dead and through that work redeem ourselves. We must make that an important work.· While Brother Kelsch was speaking, I thought of this picture of Joseph Smith--there is action there. It was in 1842 when the martial law was declared and the Prophet's life was threatened and he doned that uniform and on the platform across the road from his own home he gave an address to the people as follows: "We are American citizens. We live upon a soil for the liberties of which our fathers periled their lives and spilt their blood .upon the battlefield. Those rights, so dearly purchased, shall not be disgracefully trodden under foot by lawless marauders without at least a noble effort on our part to sustain our liberties" "Will you stand by me to the death, and. sustain, at the peril of your lives, the laws of our country, .and the liberties and privileges which our fathers have transmitted unto us, sealed with their sacred blood? ('Aye,' shouted thousands.) It is well. If you had not done I would have gone out there, (pointing to the west), and would have raised up a mightier people" "I call all men, from-Maine to the . Rocky Mountains, and from Mexico to British America, whose hearts thrill with horror to behold the rights of freemen trampled underfoot, to come to the deliverance of this people from the cruel hand of oppression, cruelty, anarchy and misrule to which they have long been made subject. Come, all ye lovers of liberty, break the oppressor's rod. loose the. iron grasp of mobocracy, and bring to condign punishment all those who trample un foot the glorious principles of our Constitution and the people's 'rights (Drawing his sword and presenting it to heaven.) I call God and angel to witness that I have unsheathed my sword with a firm and unalterable determination that this people shall have their legal rights, and be protected from mob violence, or my blood shall be spilt upon the ground like water, and my body consigned to the silent tomb. While I live I will never tamely submit to the dominion of accursed mobocracy.I would welcome death rather than submit to this oppression; and it would be sweet, oh, sweet to rest in the grave, rather than submit to this oppression, confusion and alarm upon alarm, any longer". * '* '* '* ,*.* "Peach shall be taken from the land which permits these crimes against the Saints to go unavenged. "I call upon all friends of truth and liberty to come to our assistance; and may the thunders of the Almighty, and the forked lighting of heaven, and pestilence, and War and bloodshed come down. on those ungodly men who seek to destroy my life and the lives of this innocent people. I do not regard my own life. I am ready to be offered a sacrifice for this people; for what can our enemies do? Only kill the body, and their power is then at an end Stand firm, my friends never flinch. Do not seek to save your lives for he that is afraid to die for the truth will lose eternal life. Hold out to the end, and we shall be resurrected, and become like Gods and reign in celestial kingdoms, principalities and eternal dominions, while this mob will sink to the portion of all those who shed innocent blood. "God has tried you. You are a good people; therefore I love you, with all my heart. Greater love hath no man than he should lay down his life for his friends. You have 'stood by me in the hour of trouble, and I am willing to sacrifice my life for your preservation. "May the Lord God of Israel bless you forever and ever. I say this in the name of Jesus of Nazareth, and in the authority of the .holy priesthood, which He hath conferred upon me." (And all the people cried Amen) --(Taken from "Joseph the Prophet" by Geo. Q. Cannon. ) And his blood was spilt like water. is the kind of man of this dispensation. is the kind of man whom we believe to be the One Mighty and strong. is the kind of man whom we are symbolizing in this meeting. We believe in serving and keeping the laws that he kept, and we also believe in the constitutional laws of the land and they are the laws that God gave when He inspired that beautiful flag and the Constitution. There was freedom in the land. There was the privilege of worshipping according to the conscience of the individual. But they have destroyed the Constitution and the meaning flag. They have torn it to pieces and now they are trying to force our young people to go into war and kill each other. Of course they have some laws; they might think I am a traitor, but there is -not a one who honestly loves that flag more than I, and respects the Constitution of the land. flag is the flag of the Kingdom when it is washed and cleaned of its stains; when it is purified, and it will· bring all nations to it. Joseph Smith understood that and he is one of the Gods, and when the people of Illinois and the United States did not respond the Lord God Almighty concluded that they were not worthy and took Joseph from them. Now these are some of the things that we have got to honor. We have got to begin to pray and learn how to pray as Brother Kelsch said. We- if we need a pocket knife, do not. go and pray for a wheat field. I sometimes think we wear out the Lord. The time has come when if we need a meal and we have no food, we must Pray for it, not for all the things we want. We must not pray on and on.. till the Lord tires of us that is· not praying that is annoyance to the Lord. Make our prayers mighty and. stay at it and at it. I mean that We do not have to get down on our knees and pray every time. Sometimes we are working in corrals. I have found I can pray on my feet· and pray at my desk. As I proof read the Truth, I pray the Lord to help me. When I have troubles at home, l go in my office and lock both doors and pray that they will let me come out after a while for a little lunch. We have got to pray, and pray earnestly. We have had a feast here today. God bless you and God be with you till we meet -again. I feel that we have the spirit of love. Let us keep . Let us learn to love our neighbors as ourselves. Who are our neighbors? Why, you folks, who are trying to build up the Kingdom of God., as I am. I love you and esteem your principles May the Lord bless you. Those who sorrow, may the Lord comfort you. Those who are not strong in health, may your bodies be fortified. Those who are mothers, . may the Lord bless you. Those who have sorrows and distress and deep problems I pray the Lord to bless you and fill you with light. You have a right to go to the Lord. The Lord answers prayers; I know it because He has answered my prayers; and He will answer yours, I promise you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
My brothers and sisters, I just want to add my testimony to those of the brethren. Whenever we are working around, unless we have a prayer in our hearts, we will not get anywhere. Keep that prayer in your heart no matter what you are doing. I hope we can have another time like we have had at this conference. Whenever you want to come, you are welcome to come.
Choir: "The Lord' s Prayer" 2. "The King. of Glory."
Brother Musser:
I :feel impressed to say to this choir--records are made .on 'the side as they are here; this work will be sung, these songs will be presented to the Priesthood on the other side as we present them here. I feel in my heart that this is true . And the growth that you are making is that growth through the spirit of the Lord on your hearts.
Closing Prayer: Brother G. L. Dockstader. -. LJAllred.
22 November 1942
Meeting. held at 2157 Lincoln Street, Salt--Lake City, Utah
Minutes
Meeting held at 2157 Lincoln Street, Salt--Lake City, Utah, Sunday Afternoon November 22, 1942 at 2:00 p.m.
Brother John Y. Barlow presided.
Brother Charles Zitting conducted.
1st Song; "The Lord Is My Light" Prayer: Brother R. C. Allred 2nd Song: "Redeemer of Israel".
Opening Remarks: (Brother Zitting) The Lord said in speaking of this day, "Stand ye in holy-places." We are privileged in being in this country as we have great protection here. We have moral, physical protection. I feel that we are going to have a good time together today and pray that those that speak will. feed us spiritual food.
Brother John Buchereit:
"Take no heed of what you shall say and in that very hour it shall be given unto you" says the Lord. He further talked about the fact that he had ceased to worry about other people, but that he had been worrying about, himself and the things he 'had undertaken to do. He enjoys the freedom that we have the Gospel-- is like the AB C's, it leads us from one step to another and if we will live it right we will receive it line upon line and precept upon precept. How far are we united and really living up to the things the Lord has given us? He ;Said he felt the Lord has been guiding him in his daily life, he brought him to this -country for a purpose The cause of human liberty is the cause of God," Joseph Smith said, and he said he believed this sincerely quoted the statement of John Taylor about being a slave. He has enjoyed the comforts of life, yet he has felt he has been in bondage. He mentioned that the servant s of God have promised us -: that one mighty and strong would come and set things in order; that these laws and ordinances that we believe are true and if we reject these things were reject God that the United Order is a principle of the Gospel; the only way we can and will accept it will be to recognize the authority placed over us; we must stand upon our own feet; we must find out if these laws are right for ourselves; we must put our houses in order
Brother James Ayers (from Canada): .
Spoke next and said that the prophets came and went but we knew very little of their families and themselves, but their messages remain; if we as a group keep these things in mind that our group will prosper and become the strength that God wants us to be; he had heard many talk about the people of this group; we must look to ourselves; for us to put our hands to the plow and look back and see if it is fit for the Kingdom; of God. He spoke of his son who was " buried--"The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away he then read from I Corinthians ", Chapter 15 on the resurrection. He said that the day is coming When the Lord is going. to sweep these valleys clean; not all in this order are pleasing unto God; he is not interested in others weaknesses, but in the things he can help to build up. He then spoke of Sidney Rigdon and his apostasy; and said that Satan will give ·99 truths to get us to believe one lie; let us see that our lives are cleansed and purified; we must not contend about the things we read about in the scriptures. He spoke of Hitler and the war; of "A Leaf In Review and the coming of the Lord is near.
Brother Louis Kelsch:
I thought when I was here last time and was called upon to speak· that I would be spared today Joseph asked me to be here.. I am always benefitted by these meetings. I have listened attentively to John Buchereit and Brother Ayers this afternoon If We would try to put into our lives the things that they have told us, it would lead us closer to the Lord .Anything that tend s to lead us forward, lift us up and make us more like Jesus, is good. Jesus will come one of these days and if we don't subject our lives to His teachings until we become a little like him we will not be worthy to see Him or know Him We cannot blame anyone but ourselves, if we are not worthy. If we obtain that blessing of eternal life, then we will know in and of ourselves that we had the strength to obtain that blessing It seems to me that judgment will be a pretty easy matter because we will be able to see with ourselves whether we are worthy. I do not know why I am talking of these things; I am constantly thinking of the things by which we are surrounded. For example, I am associated in my work with a bunch of Mormon boys. You cannot advance one principle of truth but what they will argue against it. We will do well if we do not allow our minds to become darkened The devil is in power. I talked with these fellows and I could not even intimate one thing pertaining to the principles of truth that they would believe. They feel that the way they are living is going to save them. What chance is there of getting saved? It just gives me a dull, heavy feeling all the time when I see the conditions of the world. These principles that we have heard of today are beautiful, yet there is not a principle that you can talk about but what you are ready for a concentration camp because of the truths you speak. is a beautiful exercise of freedom, is it not?. To me it would take a good man to be worthy of giving his life to establish those principles o:e life and salvation. Those who are clean before the Lord are the only ones worthy of giving their lives for these principles. Our nation, and we love this nation, has allowed itself to get into the frame of mind that we see the axis nations are doing to us. We as Latter-day Saints are duty bound to seek to build up the Kingdom of God. If we do not help and the Kingdom of God does not prevail in-this nation, then you will have nothing. This conflict will become so bloody and inhuman that you will not believe it. Joseph Smith said, when he saw in vision what· this nation would go through, he asked the Lord to show him no more. Yet all this is coining upon this nation for the Lard is going to build His house up. And He is going to bring up a people that will live His laws and build up His kingdom. And people will refer to that group as the place to go where there is no corruption. We, as Latter-day Saints must round up our shoulders and clean our houses end prepare for the day which is coming. The Lord expects us to do it. When He sees. fit to turn this flood loose, we do not know; but it is coming. There are things that have to be accomplished. We should not lose faith. It-is our concern to so live that weather our lives are spared or forfeited, we will bend as the limbs of a tree is our problem --to make our calling and election sure. We may even move forward as a group, but every person in that group will know sooner or later that he is fighting the battle alone. He may at some time find out he cannot hold on to the sleeve of someone else. If you have not built up those things that you will be able to find your way out or this darkness, then you will be all alone. (Then he related how Jesus was forsaken.-Gethsemane--) I believe that for every person you obtain the crown of fullness and lives to beget spirits in eternity, they will find out he must fight the battle alone. You look back and study over the lives of men who have gone through that condition when their lives were at stake, they have done it alone. We have been told by others before us, it will take some of the blood of: this generation to establish the Kingdom of God. And do not think the Devi1 will not do all in his power to keep the Kingdom of God from being established.. We have got to learn to fly blind. May God help us to do it, is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother John Y. Barlow:
My brothers and sisters, I have enjoyed the remarks this afternoon very much. I think it is right along in keeping with the things we have been teaching all the time. We have been told many times here that we are the best people that anyone knows about. But as Brother Louis said, we are not good enough. How are we going to get better? Are we going in do it by finding fault with one another? No! I think everyone of us will have to rake over our lives and see where we are failing and what is happening to us. But there is one thing sure that these laws that God has laid down must be lived. He does not put it in any other way than that Zion will never be redeemed only by living the laws. If we cannot live the fullness of the Gospel, then we must stop. I know these things, yet it seems I go right along in the same old routine. How many are the same way? Do we improve ourselves? Do we see it? The time is coming. Let me tell you right now that if you do not get into this law now, you will not get into it. Some have gotten into the law and wish-they had not. We often hear about the One Mighty and Strong. That is not worrying me a bit because I know who it is. I know it is not me. I know it is not any of our brethren. But I do know who it is, because I was told by a prophet of the living God. When the time comes for him to came, you will all know Him. The man—the head of this dispensation naturally he will be the one. A young man came to Jesus and said, "Master, what shall I do to be saved? " He enumerated a number of things. The man said, " These I have kept." The answer was "If you will be perfect, Live them.. " If' you will be perfect, live the laws--the full laws. God bless you, Amen.
Closing Song: "0 Ye Mountains High" .. Prayer:· Brother Ed Christensen
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13 December 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. at the Priesthood. Home
Minutes
Sunday Afternoon Meeting, at the Priesthood. Home, 2157 Lincoln St. , Salt Lake City, Utah, at 2:00 p.m. December 13, 1942
Brother John Y. Barlow presided.
Brother Roy Johnson conducted.
1st Song: "For the Strength of the Hills" Prayer: Brother Alma A. Timpson 2nd Song: "The Lord Is My Shepherd"
Brother David Darger
was the first speaker and he bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel, thanking God for the Priesthood and the blessings he has received; he realizes more than ever before how dependent he is upon the Lord, and how He gives him strength he realizes he is here for One purpose--for an exaltation and salvation in our Father's Kingdom, the Kingdom of God; there will be some of us called upon to give our lives, as did some in the early days and in the days of the Savior righteous men all through our history have stood forth and declared the truth before the government of the earth. They stood out and defended what they thought was true. How many of us will remain faithful and true? I hope the Lord will give me all the bumps and trials that I need to be tried to the point that I will stand through all we all will be able to stand .
Brother Lawrence Stubbs:
My brothers and sisters, this is a beautiful sight. It is the first time I have had the privilege of standing in this position, beholding this picture. There is a sight still more beautiful in my mind; is the beautiful bright eyes, the spirit that beams from the souls of characters that believe they are the children of God. I am grateful for this Gospel, for the blessings of the Almighty God to this people; and I realize that if they did not come to this people, I could not grow and develop and gain sufficient understanding and intelligence to purify myself and exalt this being in me. I was thinking a great deal of the Kingdom of God upon the earth and it has gone through my mind time and again recently. (Told the experience of a Sister. Robinson of Parowan who came across the plains by handcart. how the snow came upon them; . how her dear mother passed away the night before they arrived in this valley and her father took her on his knees and said, "Dear girl, if ever a soul comes to this valley that is hungry, feed them;" they took the straps of the horses and used them to gain nourishment.) As she talked on I thought of the song, "We Thank Thee 0 God for a Prophet" and some of the other songs that the Saints sang then. Then I thought of the principles of' the Gospel--how uplifting and purifying they are; how redeeming it is to have Joseph's teachings kept alive in the hearts and souls of men. I thought of' the sins and tests that come to the boys of today; the demoralizing influences they have. Brothers and sisters, the Gospel is life all else in this world is death. If we can have that as our guiding light, we will not go far astray. In thinking of that I thought of the spirit that rests down upon us in those times, to guide us and direct us; then I think of' the undertakings that the brethren are putting forth to help us to become more perfect and obey the laws of God and become more schooled in the laws of heaven.' My testimony to you is that the these enterprises that go to establish the united order, such as we have in Short Creek--of putting together our properties and those things we own, will help to build up the Kingdom of God. The children of these men who are undertaking to live toward the United Order the spirit of these children is quite different from the spirit of boys in the world. I have been with them and I know what they are like; they are the best boys on earth, and I believe the girls are the same. But I believe they would be still better if we could get closer to the Lord and live these things and be worthy of claiming the right s and the blessings and privileges he offers to us each day. Many of us cannot get away from the Babylon way of things; we are bound to the things of the world. If we could live the laws of God. as Brother Brigham Young wanted the people to, we would be free from all the slavery that we have to stoop down to. There is a way out--Lorin said the Lord will bring a righteous family here and there, and. the--mothers will teach their children the laws of the Gospel and they will come together and keep alive and uphold the laws of God and by end by they will go back to Jackson County to build up the new Jerusalem. I pray that we might keep the commandments of God; keep clean, and use all the energy in us to keep our children clean that we might be a strong am mighty people, we might be blessed with characters. I know that on the other side God has preserved some of the most choice spirits to come forth in these times, and to come. through you, if you merit the blessing. No greater 'blessing on earth can come to a mother and father than a righteous child. All good things have to be earned and worked. We can work as a body and see the saving power in them ,and the things that will arise from working in a body; then we would spend all our energy and time' in knitting together the things that will bring us glory and help us become glorified' beings in the celestial kingdom. May the Lord help us to keep together and work to that end, I pray in the name at' Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother William Cook:
My dear brothers and sisters, I can truthfully say from the bottom of my heart that I am glad to be here with you today. I am afraid though that the brethren have given me more credit than is due. (Brother Johnson introduced him as a man who has placed all on the altar for the up building of the Kingdom of God and go forth to do God's work.) I have felt for some time that I would like to live with you people who are living the fullness of the Gospel, and I have expressed myself, to that effect to the brethren. I feel that in and of myself I am nothing. I also feel that God has chosen people on earth in these trying times. I believe that God has chosen them to direct you and me, and I came here about a month ago, not knowing just what my move would be, and I had faith in the advice that this Council would give me. I felt that the Lord instructed them to call me to go to Short Creek. I go to Short Creek because I believe it is the place for me to go; I go with the idea that if William Cook will go to Short Creek with the commandments of God in mind, he, will make himself better. I pray that you people will help me. I do pray the blessings of God on you and I know that you are humble at heart. If we remain faithful we will obtain the righteous desires of our hearts. May the Lord bless us, I pray in the -name of Jesus Christ, .Amen
Song: "Now Let Us Rejoice"
Brother Marion Hammon:
It is very difficult for me today to try to speak to you; not that I still do not have my faith, but because I am very weak and unable to carry the burdens that are upon me; not the burdens of work, but the burdens of my weaknesses that curtail me day and night. When I think of the leadership of the men that you have heard today, then I am weaker; for I know without the spirit of God to be with me constantly, I would be a miserable failure Yet I know this work will not fail. I can bear testimony that the Lord is with me every day, in spite of my inability to do what I should. My work is growing in spite of it. I feel almost startled when I see the hand of God. working in my life. I needed some work on: the harness I am trying to get done. While in Idaho, Brother Cooke and I walked into a hardware store and saw a couple of pieces of leather strapping and I bought it and came down here. I found out I bad to have the leather that I bought in St. Anthony because they did not have any in Salt Lake. Such things happen to me so often when I get discouraged about it. I know the Lord is standing at my elbow I mean His spirit. I was thinking of Brother Stubbs and the first time I met him, and how he has come along. He has the spirit of God with him. I remember Brother Cooke when I was a small boy, and how we met; how the Lord has groomed him. The Lord has polished him up for this work. There is no doubt in my mind about it, and I know there is none in his. would He is the very last man that I thought would be called, and you cannot tell me he is not qualified. About the 17th or 18th of November, I never saw such a picture as when I went into his home. He said, "Now Brother Hammon, "whatever you' say goes." And it is wonderful. How many of you could do it? I can say that men of that frame of mind, the Lord can work with. He can take direction. You cannot lead in this walk without the direction of the Lord. If you have not the right faith, you are in difficult circumstances. Brethren, we do not want you to feel bad if you are not going to that Short Creek. There is no hurry. Some-things have got to be done now, and there are not adequate means and materials to go ahead. But that if you people feel there is that a that change coming to you, pray to that the that Lord about that it. Do that not go to Short Creek and take all your things and say I am here what are you going to do about it. We are going to try to build homes and get to work I am fearful that the days of Short Creek have come and gone, for if the Saints had lived like they should, they would not have lost certain blessings. I am saying this collectively, not individually. Here we are, the time when we need Short Creek and here it is not ready. Instead of going to pioneer now, we should be able to go and reap the benefits. I just cannot get it out of my system that some of you people will came and say, Brethren, can we go to Short Creek?" You know that same of the fieriest blood is leaving Short Creek, is going to war. The boys are leaving. Joe and Orville will be gone. It is going to be done I do not believe that the time has ever been so ripe as it is now. I feel the Lord is setting the last straw. I want this to sink into the hearts of the Saints--it is the word of God to you--NO ONE WILL GO TO THAT PLACE UNTIL THEY LEARN TO LIVE IN THE SPIRIT OF UNITED ORDER AND KEEP TH E COMMANDMENT OF GOD! The people there thought we were going to drive them out. No such thing! People will leave who do not keep the commandments of God. People who do not have it in their hearts to keep the commandments of God, will go down. I promise you this in the name of the Lord, that the people that go down there with' the spirit of God with their eye single to the glory of God will come out on top, and the spirit of the Lord will never leave you; or you will come out without anything if you do not. I believe many of you people realize the acuteness of the situation we are in. money is running like water. Few of you have ever seen such prosperous days, I vouch for that. The days will come shortly when you will have more money than you can use and will not have anything to buy with it. My advice is, start watching your pennies and start getting things around you that you can use. Start getting things you can use in Short Creek if you feel you are going there If you want glass in your windows, cement, door latches, etc., you know you can use, start looking to that end. Most of you have coal ranges in your houses; have you got a water jacket in it? If you have not, get a stove with such in that you can use. I think it would be a splendid idea if we had a cement mixer that can be run with power. Let's not die on the job. Let's donate a few hours on the place for the up building of the and kingdom of God. Let us keep the Gospel alive. Let us repent if you can. Let us and the sisters rally up there are only two masters you can serve. The time is here when we must serve God. There is no man here who is serving wholly the Lord Jesus Christ. No men is entirely serving the devil. We are mixed up with both of them. 'That vision you have heard about--the line that will be drawn from the North to the South...-it is soon going to be open, the Priesthood issue. The battle is coming to the fore. I am glad to see it coming. I would like· to see this faith of ours tried, whether it will come to the fore; let us find out the things that we question. It would not hurt my feelings to have the Lord reveal a hypocrite. I hope you people have not been able to find anything in me that I have felt was not true. I .know the church of God has been restored in this dispensation never to be taken away from us again. I know there are many people who say Pres. Grant is the mouthpiece of God on earth and they believe it. I believe that we have the Priesthood here who presides over President Grant. If God. be over the devil·, I want to serve him and I want to know it. If the devil presides over God, I want to know . We are putting forth doctrines that the leaders of the Church cannot answer. (He then told the story of his brother who was hard to get up--he had to face the music. ) The men at the head of main Street have got to face the music. Let us keep going. We have been growing up in the traditions of the people--Xmas. I suppose we will do it again this year. Let us lay a good share of it aside. I have my children and you have yours; I recommend that you tell your children who Santa Claus is, and it will be less hard on your pocket-books. Let us get away from an this idea of buying for relatives and friends. I say this in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
I think Brother Marion brought this on. I sometimes think you must be getting tired of hearing my -voice, but I am not tired of bearing my testimony. We have had some very definite Gospel truths given today. "We'll love one another, and never dissemble, But cease to do evil and ever be one; etc." in the song we just sang I am. impressed with this thought that our worship does not consist only of listening or giving instructions at the pulpit. Our worship begins as soon as we enter this room. More broadly speaking, it is when we start out from our homes; and to be more broad than too, it should be every hour of the day. Sane times I feel we do not appreciate that our meeting has commenced during singing and prayer. It seems to me, and I judge from my own experience, The singing part of the exercise is often mechanical. We do not stop to think of the words, we just sing. We sing from memory and our minds are scattered all over 'the country; we know the roads so well that our minds go away. Another expression that we frequently' hear is " the Lord will help us to call in the wanderings of our minds, Which Brother Joseph Jessop usually asks in his prayer. We do it al1-the time. Some of you brethren are thinking of something else now; you get a word once in a while, and I do not know how you can help it, except the Lord takes hold of us through training, and we learn to keep our minds from wandering, in listening to the Lord Jesus Christ, in singing and prayer in that Gospel. How can we keep our minds upon that which we are listening to, which is vital to our progress and salvation? Some teachers who are expert tell us how we 'can train our minds so we will know what happens during the meeting. I remember my grandmother would come home from the Tabernacle and tell mother what a wonderful sermon she had listened to. "Oh, I wish you had been there. And it was asked, what did he say, Grandma?" I don't remember, but it was that wonderful. that is the that one thing that we that have got to overcome--keep our minds from wandering. If it is a good song, every word has a meaning; every accent has a meaning.
In reference to Christmas--you know my feelings in , as you can tell from the little article in the Truth. In the first place, Christmas is not the birthday of Christ. It is a pagan idea. Read Chapter 10 of the Book of Jeremiah. The had pagan ideas in that day; they had an idea that Christmas trees were sacred--the pine tree. They would go out and get it and nail it to their floor so it would not fall over; then put all kinds of ornaments on it. Then they would bow down and worship it. And we do a lot of that ourselves, not with the tree alone, but with other things also. "Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto to you, 0 house of Israel Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, etc." (Jer. 10:1-6) Brother Stubbs brought up Some Christmas trees, and I understand he could not have come unless he brought them. People wanted to buy them and he brought them. People will decorate them, but I hope we as a people will get away from this heathen worship. If you want a tree, have it; but my goodness gracious let us be modest about it. This idea of exchanging gifts--one man get s a pair of sox two or three sizes too large for him and he saves them and sends them to someone else next year. You all know it is true, because I have done it. But let us not do it. The papers are full today of a barrage for people to come in and buy and get into debt. They ask you to come in and charge on credit. What is the idea? They want you to come in every week: in order to sell you some more at 75 to 100% profit. I hope our people will get sense enough to know that these advertisement s are put out by these Jewish friend s to get rich. If you can find a store, theater or anything else that is not governed directly or indirectly . by the Jewish people, I would like to know about it. They have done it for years. The Gentiles have prodded them on. They are a hiss and a by word. They have been· treated better in the U. S. I do not blame them for swindling the Gentiles; they have been mobbed and murdered, etc., all through the ages since the crucifixion of Christ. But we, as Latter-day Saints, should stir away from them as much as we can. They are anti-Christ. Some day they will believe in Christ, and that great battle will be fought at the Mount of Olives and Christ will be there and they will see the wounds in His hands and sides and they will fall down and worship Him. These are some of my sentiments of Christmas. I am with Brother Marion in saving our means. I would not be surprised if in three months that there will be a slowing up; these plants will start to discharge the workers. What are these people going to do when you have not prepared for such things. Be like the ant--store up for the winter in the summer. None of us know the tales of Short Creek project, but I know the Lord will help to do the work there. If these people go down and give their hearts to the Lord and prepare, then the Lord will help. Some people have gone to Brother John and said they are ready to go down. We are not living the united order, but we are working toward that end. I am trying to get it into my family, my wives; John and Marion are trying to get it into theirs. If the Council can get their families lined up and together in the united order, then we have got a unit started. Then we can expect the Lord God Almighty to come and confirm it upon us and then we will be in that great order of heaven. That is necessary to reach the highest degree of celestial glory. They have got a little movement on now, but it is moving slowly. Do not anybody join this movement until you know it is the right thing for you. Do not think that I am going to black-list you if you do not. I want you to go down there because you know it is the right place to go. It will not be long--and I am giving you this. as a promise—when you will be glad to go there, because the bubble is going to break. Money is not going to flow much longer. Even the money that you will have, as Marion said, you will not be able to spend. That country down there is going to thrive; water will come from somewhere, but we do not know where. Temples of the Lord will be built there. I thank the Lord he has kept it a desert as long as He has. people will go down there, like Brother Jenson and Brother Jessop. (Brother Jenson was driven out of Millville and to Canada; he prepared his land and did the best he could, and then he went out on the farm and dedicated it and that crop to the Lord and said,. "Now Father this is yours, kill it if you want." Farms all around there froze, and his crops were good and he prospered and because wealthy as a farmer, in the things he needed; While all around him crops burned and froze.) This what is going to happen in Short Creek. I hope that if anyone who goes there with any other thought than to build up the Kingdom of God, I hope the Lord will burn up and freeze the crops. Go there and make the land flourish. Make the land flourish as a rose in the desert .A brother called to me and said, "Brother Musser, I have this theory that if I have 10 acres of land and I am only using part of it, I have no right to it. I said, Brother, you are entirely right. Do not give it away, but let someone else use it, the part you are not using." If you have a house too big for your family, get someone else to use part of it. I feel that is a principle of life and salvation. We have 1200 acres down there, taxes paid this year and everything. We would like people to use it just as fast as we can. We want to see how much we can bring under cultivation. We want livestock to be on it. The day has come when we have got to overcome our selfishness. There is only one man in the world that I feel to criticize, feel to call to repentance, feel to chastise; is Joseph W. Musser. I love you people I do not like anybody's actions if they are not in the spirit of the Lord. I want Brother Barlow to carry you into the highest degree of the celestial kingdom of God, If I can be of service I want to help. God bless you, Amen.
Brother Roy Johnson:
I want to bear my testimony that the Gospel is true. We are growing every day. Little do we realize the good we are doing for the people who are living around us. It has gotten so I do not go into town but what the people notice I am there. They come up and greet me, when they have never done this before. They .. ask how things are going out our way. We are beginning to shine, like the· old prophets have said,· "Let your light so shine· that you will be a light to all men." that spirit will keep shining in us and it will keep going until it fills the earth. God bless you, and I hope the spirit that is here today will permeate every soul in this building and keep it up unti1it perfects. God bless you, Amen.
Closing Song: "God Speed the Right" Benediction: Brother James Martin. LJAllred
27 December 1942
Sunday Afternoon Meeting. at the Priesthood Home
Minutes
Sunday Afternoon Meeting, at the Priesthood Home, 2157 Lincoln St., Salt Lake City, Utah, at 2: 00 p.m. December 27, 1942
Brother Joseph W. Musser presided and conducted.
1st Song: "Join the Children of the Lord " Prayer: Brother Herbert 2nd Song: "Sometime, Somewhere" Announcement s.
Brother John Bistline
was the first speaker and reflected about his missionary work ; and compared it with this group end the way we are meeting; compared our meeting house with those of the Church, saying how elaborate the Church was building their buildings, and said he did not believe we will meet in this place very long.; He then spoke of the Prophet, of how he went to the grove to ask the Lard 'which church was right; of the teachings of the world and the Church today; the mysteries of the Gospel; this people are trying to live all the Gospel.
Brother Alonzo L. Cook
spoke next and bore his testimony and thanked the Lord for the blessings his family receives, that the spirit of the Lord helps them; the Lord will provide if we can stand the test, live more unitedly, and help one another.
Brother Carl Holm:
was the next speaker (from Idaho) and said how grateful he was to be able to meet with the group again, and said that and said are all endeavoring to live the Gospel as the Lord has given it to us; we should endeavor to live closer to the Lord; it depends entirely upon ourselves whether we are saved. He bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel, the Priesthood. Council, etc.
Trio: "My Prayer" by Athlene, Myrtle, &. Leona Allred.
Brother Rulon T. Jeffs:
The Lord has certainly blessed us with many talent s. These words of the song, "More fit for the Kingdom, more used would I be; More blessed and holy, More, Savior, like, thee." that touched me. Brothers and sisters, I have been feeling more strongly of late that this people is on the threshold of being sifted out or in. We are going to have to put ourselves in a position more where we can be used. ·is my constant prayer-- I can measure up. The Lord gives us a certain work to qualify. If we don't measure up, then we must get out and someone else put in. (He spoke of the Prophet and the Saints then.) This work is growing and increasing, and it is going on, and it is up to us to stay with it. We have a high and holy mission to perform. We have to redeem our families, those who have not followed us in this work, and the Church too. We must help redeem it. The Lord uses small, weak and humble thing s to perform the mighty. The Lord has given us many promises that we cannot take too light. I am glad that we have taken the standard "The Kingdom of God .or Nothing." How can we measure up? In everything that we do we must seek to build up the Kingdom of God. (He then compared the conditions in the group today with the time of Lorin Woolley-how we are openly preaching the fullness of the Gospel, and holding meeting s, etc.; how we are striving to go into the united order; and he admonished us to put everything on the altar and step forward to build up the Kingdom of God and said, "I promise you in the name of the Lord that you will go forward and do the work well, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen."
Brother Charles F. Zitting:
I trust in the Lord to help me say a few words to you. during the last month, two or three things come up to my mind that I would like to speak: to you about. We have a meeting house now that is a credit to this people. For the last three or four years the Priesthood has advised the people to build or buy their own homes. Today nearly all of this people have their own homes, especially. in the last year. There is something that we must prepare in a temporal way. Money is going to be so plentiful that one day there will be nothing that you can buy with it. It got that way in the old country in the last world war, and it will get that way here.; it is not far away We have not begun to see the things that are going to happen. This will not stop until the wickedness is all wiped from the earth. So prepare yourselves; get a little piece of good ground with good water rights. Do it for you will need it. The man on the f ann. is the one will have a few things to eat. You will not be able to buy it. The first strain of the sang, "Sometime Somewhere" appealed to me. (He read the first verse.) There are many people in this group who have had many difficulties to overcome; they have had their natures to overcome, and weaknesses. Do not lose in faith; strive to go right on. This life is a grind. When I go through life meeting the difficulties, and then come to church and hear that song, . it gives me hope.· Sometimes we cannot get to our secret chambers to pray about some problems that we have to face, yet those prayers seem unanswered for years. The Savior of this world was nailed to the cross and for hundreds of years the atonement was not made; but to me the people of the world are atoning for that act. If we If we will plod along day by day in little things, we will get there. Brother Rulon Jeffs said, to dedicate and consecrate everything to the Lord. Did he mean money, homes, Wives, children? Yes, all of it. Do it, brothers, and sisters, and hold to the faith that sometime, somewhere your righteous desires will be answered, and I say it in the name of the Lord. It may take ten, twenty, fifty years before your prayers are answered, but if you set your goal to build up the Kingdom of God and plod along, sometime, somewhere your prayers will be answered. I promise you that in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ Amen.
Brother Fritz Kanpe
(who is leaving for the army) spoke next and he expressed how glad he was he could be associated with this people the past few months; the. That he had learned to love and respect them and their efforts and desires; he shall miss this people, and that he feels the strength of the Gospel shall be with him wherever he goes. He then mentioned the monument to Brigham Young and "This is the Place, It that this people is the salt of the earth, and asked the Lord's blessings upon them.,
Brother Joseph W. Musser:
If we will live in according to the advice that has been given, we will go on to perfection. This is the last meeting that we will hold this calendar year. You do have a choir practice Wednesday, but of course our real year begins April 6 the real birth of Christ. Someday it will be inaugurated in the world. We are using the calendar of man now. We have made progress this year. I know we have. I have been wondering how many of us are perfect? How many want to be perfect?, The way to become perfect is to observe those things that we have heard today. Brother Cooke made some good statements concerning the breaking of the bubble. The fool's paradise that we are living in is going to be broken up. Yes, we are going to have inflation too. If we have it anything like Germany had it, you will have to take a bushel basket of money to get a loaf of bread.. In this land of America we are going to have famine. This is the richest land on the earth the government is doing all it can to bring famine, and doing it unconsciously. It is doing all it can to do away with machinery of the famer. It is constantly telling the people to do what it can to win the war. The famine is coming; it will not be for the want of things, but for want of seed time and harvest--for cattle, sheep, etc. They have destroyed hundreds of carloads of fruits and vegetable s to increase the price. We are going to be short of those things because they are trying to feed the world. We did not look beyond Our own homes we thought about raising the price of things by destroying part of the crops. Then the balance that was grown we will get a. good price for.. After we have gotten rid of half our livestock and crops, we are trying to feed half the world. So very definitely we are going to have a famine. We must keep our waste down to a minimum. Have we made progress this year? This house, Brother Zitting spoke of. We raised $2,000 for building and material, this piano, etc., and we have done it in the last four or five months. That is material progress. Now we have started some work at Short Creek. Brother Hammon and Brother Barlow are both there. There is some important initial work to be done there. As Brother Cooke said, we have got to sit on our own bottoms. I was glad to hear Brother Zitting talk about this song "Sometime, Somewhere". I was glad to hear Brother Jeffs talk about the prayers that we utter. Brother Taylor prayed that sometime this world would come to an end (speaking of the wicked); and I am. wondering if we are ready for that. Could we endure it if the world came to an end tonight? Are we ready for the catastrophe that is upon us at the present time? The reason we got this home and the reason that we have been excluded from the church is to reach a higher of purification than the masses of' the Saints are in at the present time. It has been from the beginning that the church has a few that are ready to reach out and make the sacrifices necessary while the large majority backslide. It is the same today and has always been; few small minority that has served the Lord while the great majority are serving the world and drifting down stream. That is what the Lord is doing at the present time--preparing you that you might be able to carry this load when the. world does come to an end. These wars are going to continue and. the wicked are going to kill the wicked; the Lord t s reign is going to cone in;. but the earth must be purified. There will be a great many who call themselves Latter-day Saints that will be caught in the trap and will have to surrender their lives. I hope the next year we will make further improvements; we hope our resolutions will be sound. I am not going to make resolutions for I break them. the next day. I am a good hand at bending on my knees and asking the Lord to help me to improve day by day. I hope we will never attack a job without praying to the Lord to help us. Some of us think there is a long time before these things are going to happen. I never know whether I will see the light of another day. Are you prepared to meet your Maker? If not, let us prepare ourselves. I am the judge of myself. I am in charge of myself and I want to live in such a way that I can meet my Maker. This morning in Sunday School we discussed authority. Some women took exception to it. Man presides over women . That is the luckiest thing that a women has. The man is responsible for his wives and children; if he does not help them and they go to hell, then he will go to hell with them. I will never' see the glory of heaven until I see every member of my household around me. It is a mighty serious proposition to have wives and bring children into the world. So your wives have an alibi. Eve fell because it was necessary; but she did not break God's commandment because God did not command her he commanded Adam. It was hi s duty to command Eve. You ask, "Cannot a wife receive guidance and inspiration?" Yes, receive guidance to do the will of' her husband (assuming that he is living in accordance with the laws of God, and he covenanted in taking that woman to use the best wisdom he has and he is industrious in seeking the Lord for guidance.) He will tell the wife and children what to do and they can go to the Lord and receive light and knowledge and intelligence and receive help in carrying out the law of their husband and father., If I am faithful and true to my covenants, the Lord will tell me What to tell my wives and children and if they ever qualify with me, it is because they. live my law, the law that comes through me to my wives and children. is the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Now if we cannot stand it, we apostatize we all have our agency. God did not tell Eve not to partake of the fruit he told Adam. They fell up, and opened up another world of light and a great kingdom; it was necessary that they take that step in order that they night grow and multiply for the glories that had been provided for them. They came down into mortality and through that they came up into a great mortality into another kingdom. I never want to think of Eve as not being perfect and true and pure; nor that Adam was in any sense a weakling, or in any sense lacking in greatness, because He is my Father and God, to whom I pray. He is the being, if I am faithful, I expect I will see, and receive His embraces and embrace Him as I did that wonderful night that I left Him before coming here..Did I know Him? Did I sit upon His lap? Did I know Him? Why, I knew Him as well as my children know me. I will go back to Him if I am faithful and true. That is the privilege of everyone on the earth if they are faithful and true. Some will never see the face of the Father. Now brothers and Sisters, let us make this coming year greater, live a purer life; quit finding fault with each other; learn to love each other. When men know they are loved, they want to be better, grow better. That is natural. It is the person who does not know what love is that sinks into the mire. Let us love to bring up the spirits of others wherever we go. A good smile is a wonderful remedy for the ills of the world. Let the war the t is going on go on, but we can stand in holy places. Brother Fritz (Kempe) can be with the Lord every day, just as our other boys will be able to do who live close to the Lord. Let the war go on, but let us stand in holy places through our devotion to truth and righteousness. The Lord will bless us to succeed. The Council wants you all to set a new standard to work toward the next year. Be a little more faithful, a little more active, a little more true, and the Lord will· bless you. You brethren who want to go into celestial marriage--the answer is in the song; but have you done your part to receive it? That is my testimony to you-the prayer is answered when you do your part to receive it. "My testimony to you is that if you want something to build yourselves up, that prayer is answered on condition have we fulfilled our part of the bargain? If we have not, just as soon as we do our part," then we will receive our answer. God bless you, Amen.
Closing Song: "0 The Rock of Our Salvation" Benediction: Brother Robert E. Cleveland. LJAllred
Source
From the Historical Short Creek archive, 1942 documents. Volume 2, 1942-01-11-to-1942-12-27 (Word document). This is a reading copy of the minutes, not a substitute for the original. Names are linked to an existing person or event page only when that page already exists.