EXCERPTS FROM TALK GIVEN BY ELDER JOSEPH W. MUSSER,

FEBRUARY 25, 1940, AT THE HOME OF IANTHUS W. BARLOW

ELDER JOSEPH W. MUSSER

My father was sent to the East India on a mission and the English people were ruling at that time as they are doing at the present time. They wouldn't let the missionaries get in meeting places so my father got a job from a Fire Worshiper, and from the money earned he built a meeting house and preached the Gospel till Brigham Young called the missionaries out of that country to go to England. When we were meeting in Brother Broadbent's place I was lead by the Spirit to predict that the time would come when we would occupy the Tabernacle. Now that time's coming my Brothers and Sisters. That time is coming but it will not come until we are prepared to fill the tabernacle, or at least make a Good showing there. If we had all who are reading the Truth Magazine and who are impressed with it we would make a Good showing. But they would have to come from all over the world. The time will come, and it isn't far distant, when the Truths that we are preaching now will be proclaimed from the pulpit in the Tabernacle. I give you that as a servant of the Lord and in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I felt moved upon to make that statement today. We've had the word of the Lord given to us and particularly from President Barlow. He has given us the word of the Lord with reference to the United Order and Plural Marriage and I testify that Brother Barlow has told us the truth. My impressions are that there is not one out of fifty that is prepared to live the United Order or the Order of Enoch. Tithing is a very small part of it, yet it is a part that if we learn to live honestly we may then take another step forward.

President Young said that the United Order would be the last law that we could

live. It is a law of God. The earth and all that there is in it belongs to God. And those who are prepared to keep His commandments will become joint owners with him. They automatically become wealthy because the earth represents wealth. We are not yet capable of overcoming our selfishness and our jealousies. The Prophet John told the people in his day, "All you that say you love the Lord. God and hate your Brother are liars and the truth is not in you, how can you love God whom you have not seen and hate that which God created that you do see." If you can't love the created, you can't love the creator. I am aware of the fact that there are a great many thing pertaining to man that we do not like. But still we should love that which God created and until we

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learn to live the United Order in love and in confidence we cannot expect go on further.

(Quoted for song, "O, say what is Truth) Then say what is truth.

We are living at a time now when truth is being challenged throughout the Christian world and particularly among our own people. I have recently come into contact with two statements that are most appalling. (Coming from supposed Lather-Day Saints). One man is a leading educator, a Utah polygamist born boy who is prominent in the Church and in a New York Stake, recently in response to a question from the Press, as to why the Mormons practiced Polygamy, he says, "in the early history of the Mormon Church out in Utah they had a great many love children, and had polygamy instituted to give these children parentage." In other words, the Pioneers that came here to establish the Kingdom of God and to build it up were guilty of sexual looseness. That their children were love children. That's the kind of rot they put forth. In another case, one of the teachers in a Seminary was trying to make excuses for Abraham and said, Abraham committed adultery with the woman Hagar, after which Sarah compelled him to take her to be his wife." The Law of Abraham which is a pattern of the Heavenly law, lived by the Gods, being classed this day and taught to our young people as a law of adultery. I want to say if those men do not repent they will never see the face of their Father. They will never get into the Celestial Glory even as servants. There is a place for that kind o men and that is in the Telestial Sphere with adulterers, murderers, and all those who love to make a lie will go. For it is the productions of eternal lives that prepares us for Gods and Kings, etc. We have been asked what the tree of life is that Lehi saw in his dream. The tree was more or less than tree of life the tree pertaining to life, the tree that comprehends the principles of Celestial and Plural Marriage, for that is the only tree that will produce eternal lives. There are people in this audience today who are here to report, upon us. They think we are going to say something that will compromise us. But I tell you that it does not matter how many fingers are pointed at us. If we will live as the Three Hebrews lived and as Daniel lived we will receive our exaltation, while those who are pointing their fingers of scorn at us will go down to Hell if they do not repent. Some two or three years ago the bill boards on the streets here were loaded with the pictures of naked women, actresses from Broadway, and the inscription was given of some 75 Glorified Women". Glorified. Why? Because they were without children? Because they knew nothing about the sweetness of motherhood? 2

Because they weren't honorable wives? Was that why they were glorified? How many really, truly glorified women we have here today. Not because of their dress or jewelry, not because of their drug store make-up or physical form which many women spend a great deal of their time and money on, but because they have become partners with Almighty God, and are mothers of men populating one of God's earths. Teaching the truth and inspiring faith and confidence in mankind. Women who are pure and modest and fruitful. Women who would give their lives before they would tarnish themselves. That is the kind of women we have in this congregation today--women who are really glorified. Women who will go into the eternities with their posterities. "We have with us today Eves who will populate worlds. We have Sarah's, living the Celestial Law. That is glorification. We have men in this house who would give their lives before they would rob a woman of her virtue. Virtue to them is the ultimate of life. The Lord told the Children of Israel, if they would obey Him they should be a peculiar people unto Himself.

(Quote Deut. 14:2). .

Why are we a peculiar people? Because we believe in. the eternities of the Marriage covenant; believe in being virtuous, in being honest and keeping true our promises and covenants. We believe in paying tithing and in keeping the Words of wisdom in the spirit in which the Lord meant it to be kept. We are a holy people and a peculiar people in the light that the Lord has given us. We cannot change eternal laws. I know the Hell that many of you are going through at the present time because o£ the actions of men and the laws that are bring formed against us. I know that Brother Barlow and the rest of the Brethren in the Council are being hounded and criticized and lied about. Their liberties are threatened. To live the law of Celestial Marriage in the present day entails sacrifice and suffering that few have experienced, but I know that you would not want to change it if you could. I know that the wives do not want to see their husbands suffer, but it is an eternal law and it cannot be changed" and all those who will receive the blessings of Abraham must live the law of Abraham, and all those who receive the blessings that Sarah received must be willing to live the law of Sarah. We have got to remember to live the United Order. We cannot go on or progress as I see it now. We are up against a stone wall. I can't see any possibility of advancing further no matter how faithful we are in living -the law of Celestial Marriage unless we also live the law o£ Enoch, the law of the United Order. So it's up to me if I want to get myself in shape for the blessings of the Lord. It's also up to you to live His laws--all of them. Get ready to dedicate and consecrate your properties and yourselves. But we must first learn who the Priesthood Council is and what that authority is. We have got to begin to dedicate and consecrate for the 3

use of this great order. When a Godly number of us get to the point that we can honestly consecrate what we have to the work of the Lord, then we will begin to grow. Let's find just twelve men who will do this--who will stand at the rack, hay or no hay, and we will move the earth! We are all too selfish. J. Golden Kimball once asked. "How many of you are willing to give your lives for the Gospel" all held up their hands. Then he asked. "How many are willing to give a dollar for M.J. Come?" And very few held up their hands. When a request touches the pocket-book rebellion sets in. We have got to observe this law and live it because the greater the light the greater the condemnation. &&

Reported by Maryum Morrison *** END ***

Sunday Night Meeting, August 11, 1940 6:00 p.m.

First Song: "The Day Dawn is Breaking".

Prayer by Brother Ed Christensen

Second Song: "Guide Me to Thee"

Brother J. W.: Musser: My friends, Brothers and" sisters, we have with us

tonight one of our friends from the: Navajo Tribe in Southern Utah and northern Arizona, who has been with us before in one of our meetings, and no doubt a number of us here heard Mr. Berry at that time. He is one of our brethren. Brother Berry has received very broad experience not only in his own tribe, but in others, and he is well versed on the Mexican and South American situation.

Mr. Berry: (Indian)

Ladies and Gentlemen: I am sure I will remember some of your people when I talked with you last winter, but with your approval I will be very glad to explain to you about my people, the people I met in South America, Mexico, and some of the Central America areas. My Father is chief of the Navajos and I am next in line to succeed him. I have received a Good education, having a B.A. degree, and I know 14 Indian languages, as well as French, Spanish and some of the oriental languages.

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All tribe rituals are about the Same. Some of our best rituals and traditions you may not accept. We practice them and believe them quite right. The most sacred tradition that is taught to us at very early childhood is to worship our Great Creator, Eskswewa (?). We are taught to worship Him to the greatest of our ability. There is the God of Seasons, God of Earth, God of Rituals and Dances, etc. We believe that there are other great spirits. Great Flower Spirit. We believe that everything living has its God. We must respect most highly our parents, and our lives. We must at all times respect the leaders of our nation. Some of the tribes have more council members than others. We have l5--High Chief, Medicine Man, Shema and 12 other council men. Shema is the adviser. In some of the Tribes there has always been 3 great spirits over the tribes all the time. The Great Council members are appointed. One of the great traditions is that from infancy my people are taught never, to worry. If tomorrow comes, that is all right; if it doesn't, that" is all right. Indians never worry. The appointment of our chief and council members--our training for that position starts at the age of 6 or 7 years. From the time we are able to walk and talk until 14 years, we are taught there is no difference in sexes. Girls and boys alike are taught the same duties: Household duties, child tending, etc. It is handed down tradition that what the father does or has done the son must learn the same. The girls are not that however. We are taught at all times to do much Good to help our own people as much as we can, regardless of the hardships or the penalty. At various times of the year the 15 council members visit each community and see how the boys are acting in the community and those deserving are honored with a hawk feather, and so on. After a man has received 24 hawk feathers he is given a ceremony destroying his 24 blue hawk feathers and is given a white eagle feather. After he has received 24 white eagle feathers, he is given a red feather. After he has received 25 feathers he is allowed to sit in the council as an honorary member, but has no voice in matters. Only upon the death or resignation of one of the members he becomes a real member. The Medicine Man has two understudies at all times. Council members are almost perfect. All council members must agree on everything or the vote is. cast out. Anything that is to the welfare of the people or the benefit of the nation is voted upon. The most sacred law is marriage. The law of marriage is practiced very similar to the laws of the white people. One thing we do not believe in is a very early marriage. Our courtship usually lasts from one to three years. The couple talks over each other's affairs, ambitions, likes and dislikes. When everything is prepared, the word is passed to the community, and the approval of the community is asked. Then it is customary to go to the council members and consult them. The 5

council then sanctions it, gives them a blessing and set the day of the ceremony. On the day of the ceremony everyone is invited. Places are designated for the ceremony. The more the merrier. It is honorary to be married in the presence of the Great Council members. The ceremony lasts all day long, from sunrise to sunset. The first actual ceremony is at noon, then the feast and the final ceremony is completed at sundown. In the presence of the Great Council members they promise that: So long as the sun shall rise in the East and set in the West, we shall remain husband and wife; in other words through all time and eternity. How we live here determines what we receive after death It is quite all right for a man to take upon himself more than one wife, with the other's approval and the approval of the people, as he is able to do so. A man may have as many wives as he can take care of. It is quite all right for a wife to marry again after the death of her husband. True Indian tradition in South and Central America. It has always been the practice of the Indian people from the beginning. There is one thing that an Indian cannot get--that is a divorce. The Indian people have their difficulties as well as other people. Should a man do any-ting that will create a disorder, there is a temporary separation. They consult the council members about their difficulties. The council members advise them what to do. If a permanent separation has come then the man is an outcast and the people will not accept him. Should the Women do something that is bad enough, she is cast out just the same. She is always the wife of one man. The law of self-preservation and to help each other as much as we can is one of our great laws, but is not compulsory. We have great storehouses in every community. Each member, regardless of what his trade is, will at harvest time put in so much of whatever he does or has or earns. The storehouse is open at all times and if anyone has had bad luck, he may go to the storehouse for provisions. No one must have permission to take out 'what he needs. If he takes more than he needs, he must starve for so many days. The Indians will not tolerate greed. In sharing season the stock and farm products are shared with those who have. nothing or little. Usually the people trade what they have more than they need for what they don't have and need. Our people never turn a cold shoulder to those who need help, but they must help themselves and help others while helping themselves. If a man has surplus of land and is not using it, he leases it to someone who needs it, but does not charge for the use of it. Crime--All punishment among our people is very strict. If you break a law--. stealing, fighting, etc.--the word is passed over the community and the punishment is passed out by the council. If he has stolen, he will work out that punishment by working for t he man whom he stole from. After the sentences is completed, the man whom he wronged will say he is forgiven. The council members will forgive him and tell him never to break the law again. If the same crime is committed 6

again, he would have to do three times the work for punishment. After breaking the law three times, he is cast out of the community. The punishment for coming beck is stoning. Battery or assault of the opposite sex is: The person's clothes are taken off, except a white clout, his nostrils are plugged up and his ears, he is smeared with honey and tied down near an ant bed and left all day. If the crime is sufficient, he is taken in and his wounds are dressed then he put out for another day or two days in the ant bed. Murder, assault, etc death penalty have five days to commit suicide. If he does not commit suicide the Medicine Man prepares some poisonous herbs in water. A number of glasses of water are prepared and no one knows which glass contains the poisonous herbs. The victim is made to drink them. Most every victim commits s suicide before the end of the five days by jumping off a cliff. He can never escape because he is too well watched. Chicaragas Indians. They are white Indians and the greatest race of people in the world. They are in Mexico. The reservation is 9 miles wide and· 12 to 14 miles long. It is completely surrounded by a wall 10 to 20 feet high. No one can enter into the city unless he is true Indian. Men and women are treated exactly the same. The robes they wear are similar to a bathrobe, long sleeves, made of white virgin wool. They wear a veil and it is not taken off only after sundown or when inside the homes. It is their tradition that several hundred years ago a Great White Spirit visited with the nation and taught them how to live and promised them that if they would live and abide by the laws that someday the Great Spirit would return and live among them again. It is a true belief of the Chicaraga people. It is their belief that they should live as pure and righteously as they possibly can. There is a law among them which is followed by all the other Indian people but "they truly set the example. They are the only people in the world who really practice to the very utmost what they do not preach. They do not preach anything. They practice and live 100% up to their tribal traditions. Their laws are lived up to explicitly. They do not have any money. There is no buying and no selling. All crops are put in the big storehouse, and it is open to everyone. Everything is strictly exchange. The Wise Leader says the people know the law and they have no trouble-they work and earn for each other. There are 8,000 members of the tribe. Only three members in five years have ever been punished. There is so little crime. They have perfect unison and live for each other. All buildings are white or light in color. The Great Council meeting--I attended this meeting in April 1940. The Chief is not seen by but few people. The Mighty Wise man--his presence is such that you can feel it without seeing him. His power is tremendous. There will be a great Indian tribal trek to the Great River where the River runs to the north and into the South. Indians from all parts of the South and North will trek to the Great 7

White Stone (Jackson County). In September there is another great meeting with the Chicaragas, and in April and a year from September another great meeting 1943 is the beginning of the end. The Great Meeting was for a better understanding and to get ready. They know what it is for, and maybe your people know what it is for. But be ready when it comes. The Chicaragas people live in store and adobe houses. No modem conveniences. No strong drinks. There are some blue-eyed Indians. Their skin is white and beautiful.

There are 25,000,000 pure blood Indians in the world.

Chicaragas are 5 feet 10 inches tall as an average. They are a beautiful people. They have strong characters, black hair, very light skin. The Medicine Man takes care of the ills.

Last song: "Now Let Us Rejoice". Prayer:

LJ

Sunday Night Meeting, August 25, 1940 6:00 p.m. At Zittings.

Brother Lewis A Kelch presided.

First Song: "How Firm a Foundation" Prayer: Brother Hyde. Second Song: "Redeemer of Israel".

Brother Kilgrove:

Brothers and Sisters, I can surely say this is quite a surprise to me. I don't t know what I 'will talk about unless it is about A person, any Latter Day Saint, ought at all times to be ready and equipped with plenty to talk about. There is a great deal we say at certain times, and there are times when I'm alone thinking that I believe I could preach a sermon. Today I certainly am at a loss. But I desire what time I occupy and ask that the Spirit of the Lord direct me. If there is anything that he wants me to bring forth, I hope I can be

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an instrument in His hands to bring forth some of the principles to someone's benefit. I have been thinking a great deal of late, especially since this show "Brigham Young" has come to town. There are many Good things in it, but there are parts in it that I don't fully agree with. The things of the Lord are understood through the spirit of the Lord. The story is written by a man who is not a Mormon. The sacred things of Heaven are treated too lightly. I have read the history and the story of the exodus of the early Lather-day 3&ints, and the movie gave only the highlights of the history. Brothers and Sisters, I believe I am a thorough believer in the Gospel. I have tried to understand it to the best of my ability. I feel Vie people are representing the grandest and greatest thing in the world; that is, the Church of Jesus Christ of Light becomes-day Saints. We have the Priesthood to officiate and I feel this is one of the holiest privileges given to man. If we would only magnify your Priesthood and would realize the responsibility that is resting upon us today. We are facing conditions that are equal, are worse than, the French people, the Poles, the Finns, the English, etc., are facing today. I have been following the history of the world, the conditions that have been Brought over the world today. Yet we have the Book of Mormon. It says that the people who have thrown down the Gospel will be trod under the foot of man. He read in the Book of Mormon about Jacob who says that there will be those who would reject the Gospel and trod it down. If these are the conditions now, as we have been told by the Indian, the punishment will be met out to each one of us. Read the Book of Mormon. Compare it with what the Indian said; the meeting in September and again in April. Those who are sleeping will have to face the issue. We have the Gospel in its fullness. The Lord has given it to us to treasure up. If we will, there is a doorway out. The Lord has never punished a people but what He has left a way for the worthy ones to be saved. He has given us one. Do we really appreciate it? If we don't, we will suffer the consequences. The Lord has given us the fullness of the Gospel in plain English. If we will read and study the Gospel, we will understand sufficient of it that we can escape. I have often thought of this, that the Lord has blessed us with the fullness of the Gospel. How many of us appreciate the fact that we can have our children shown into the world by Good Lather-day Saint mothers? How much do we appreciate it? I am trying-to see if I measure up--to see that I live the laws and rules that God has given us. When we enter into that sacred law of matrimony, and we are supposed to live that law, and when we do then special spirits will be sent to magnify those people who have lived honorably, and those spirits wi1l be sent if we live the Gospel as we should. We should love, honor and uphold this plan. It is my prayer always, that the Lord will see fit to send choice spirits into my home and 9

I will try to teach "them the fullness of the Gospel to the best of my ability, so that I may return to this earth after death. I didn't have the privilege of being born in the Gospel, but my mother heard the Gospel, and accepted it when she first heard it. Story of the Elders--Two Mormon elders came to our home just before breakfast one morning. Mother was very ill in bed. Mother said to me, "Will you will you ask those preachers if they will come in and give me a blessing?" She had been ill for years. The elders came in and shook hands with her. They gave her a blessing and administered to her. She got up immediately finished the breakfast and cleared up after. Not long after she was baptized. That is the kind of mother I bad. She taught me the Gospel and I accepted it. After I accepted the Gospel I came West. The following January my mother died. Later on I had the privilege of hearing her voice. I was living in Canada at that time. Later on I am going back to Utah. I was fixing to go to the penitentiary, and I decided to go to Mexico. I Was on 17th South waiting to see my daughter when mother's voice came to me and said, "You are not going." A little later she said, "I tell you-you are not going." I told my wife, "I am not going" She said, "Yes, you are." I said, "The Lord said he will fight our battles." I didn't go to Mexico." I have heard my mother's voice four times and each time I have heeded it. Now it is my guardian angel; we do have guardian angles. My son has stood by my, and others on the other side are standing by me. If I am true to the covenants that I have made with my family and my Heavenly Father I will come out on top. It is my desire to fill my mission that I have come to fill here and follow those who are sent here in the Priesthood to direct us. I have received blessing from these brethren. If I am not faithful I will lose the blessings-- there will be broken ties. It is my prayer that we may help to bring the spirits that are waiting on the other side, The world is producing nothing but disease and degradation. The Lord expects us to live so that we may bring choice spirits who will help build up His kingdom. I have a testimony of the Gospel and I am sure that it is true. I appreciate it and hope and pray that I may be able to be of some use in helping to build up God's Kingdom. This is my prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Zitting:

Dear Brothers and sisters, I had a feeling that I would be called today and have been thinking what to say. I have been doing considerable traveling the last two months. As I traveled many things have been going through my mind. The other day as I was traveling along I thought--we should dwell on the serious things of live that we may get a better understanding of the things of God. Too many of, us are inclined to look for 10

extremes. The Gospel is neither one extreme nor another. If you strike a happy medium it is better. , I was at a funeral the other day, and there was very little said about the principles of the Gospel. They celled no one to repentance. The Gospel seems to be left out and that is one extreme. It is not a Good extreme. I was in the northwestern part of Utah in the desert and I thought what the conditions would be if I was there with a buggy and horse, no hay for the horse, no place to stay, what the conditions would be. As it was I had a modern automobile. A great storm 'was coming up. I pulled off the road in the desert. In two minutes I made my bed I had my food and, my radio; and it got me to thinking along the line s of the millennium. As far as transportation, is concerned the Millennium is here. The financing of automobiles is within the reach of everyone. When the cost of cars is within the reach of everyone the Millennium then is here. I have heard brethren say we pay for our homes, but it is only a matter of time when we will get everything for nothing. I don't feel that in the Millennium we will get anything for nothing. However, the principles of exploitation won't be here. Things will be within the reach of every man and woman, as far as food, homes, and transportation is concerned. I can hardly believe that every medium of exchange will be done away with. When you are in the Millennium it won't be in the line of the civilized world. We are living in a world of martyrs, adulterers, etc. In the Millennium there will be no wicked. Everything will be burned except that which is Celestial--the world will be cleansed and purified. In this period of life that we know of, it has been a big day of the Telestial class and gold and silver have reigned. But that is about at an end now. During the Millennium we won't have that class to contend with. Everyone will have plenty. When the day comes that we have it just as perfect as you can think of, when death itself is conquered and Satan has been casted into darkness forever, that will be the Millennium. It will come as a whirlwind. I expect business to be going on during the Millennium. Fortunes will be eliminated. While this business goes on during the Millennium, the poor will be thought of. Everything will be within the reach of the poor as well as the middle class and the rich. To know that my Brother can have what I have will be the Millennium to me. I was up in the Bear Lake section not long ago. Land can be gotten very cheaply, but it is very fertile. The thought came to me--I wonder if it would be well for me to cultivate that land. Some of the brethren say don't do that now, the Millennium will be here and it won't be of any use. Think: of that, brethren and sisters. I expect it to come quite gradually After the Millennium we will have a Celestial condition which we will talk about later. Prepare for the Millennium! Don't let down your oars, brethren and sisters. Don't think that we do not have

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work for our families. The Lord loves an industrious people. We will have to earn everything that we get. May God bless us that we may not think of extremes, that we will think of the Gospel and search the Scriptures and that we will all be happy in our work. It is my prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Snell of Spanish Fork:

I am aware Brothers and sisters, that the Gospel of the Lord, Jesus Christ is true and correct in every detail, and I am also aware partially of the condition that exist at the present time, which condition exists because of the whims of man. God in His knowledge foresaw this condition, and of course you and I who are interested in the scriptures realize that that is true. God has shown us what the conditions would be at this time. Is there any other group of people that has the knowledge that this group has? I think if we study the scriptures that we will be lead to know that through this medium the greatest thing that can came to us will come to us forever. Because a person believes the scriptures or does not believe them, it does not necessarily affect the truth of the scriptures. Our opinions do not mean anything unless they are founded on knowledge. The scriptures reveal knowledge to us that we should base our opinions upon. A thorough knowledge will lead us to the thing that we are looking for. God has revealed to us all the things that are all hoping for and living for here on earth. I recognize this all the time. It is through this that I witness the thoughts of other people and through it that I pray that the Spirit will guide me; and it is through.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

My Brothers and sisters, the few moments that I stand here I desire an interest in your faith and prayers. We have heard many things today. How many of us took these things to ourselves, and believe them? Uncle Lorin said that you have got to know that the Gospel is true. What is the Gospel--the plan of salvation. It is the principle of the greatest gift that can be placed upon man. It is the gift that will lead us to eternal lives. Joseph Smith gave the principles to the people so that the people could understand them. He came down and restored the plan that was once on the earth at the time of Adam and at the time of the Savior. These principles that wi1l exalt us and save us, these are what we want of life. It is what God says, not what man says. If we hunt them out, we can find out what we must do to gain that eternal life. 12

In order to get into the Kingdom of God, we must be born again--repentance, and baptism, and the holy ordinance of sealing. It takes those things to get into the Kingdom of God. Let us go on to perfection--to faith let us add knowledge, to knowledge, virtue and charity. Charity has almost lost its meaning today. In that day meant the pure love of God. Now Brothers and sisters, these things were given to us in their plainness and simlplicity; and God fixed these laws. In Section 101 of the Doctrine and Covenants to the Prophet the Lord gives a parable concerning the redemption of Zion--the nobleman told his servants to plant 12 olive trees, and to bu.ild a tower that they may look over and see their enemies afar off. They started to build the tower, but came to variance one with another asking what need they of the tower at this time of peace. Then the enemy came and they started to run because they were not prepared as they were told. When the higher ordinances of the Gospel were given to the people by the Prophet, only 2% of the people obeyed these ordinances. Then what came? The Edmund law, and the people got scared and ran. Finally the Master said, what have you done--get up the young men and the middle aged and go back and redeem my land. Brothers and sisters, we are in that condition today. God has spoken and he is going to come back here and the people are going to redeem that land. I want to bear my testimony that God never gives anything unless He opens the way. It will take more than a Manifesto to ever stop the principle of Celestial marriage. The story of the purse. --who is the looser? God will open the way if you will live this law. We are going to purify Ourselves and cleanse ourselves if we expect to go back to Jackson County, but we must not have sin among us. How many of us are preparing and sanctifying ourselves? God bless you, Amen.

Brother Joseph W. Musser

It has been interesting tonight to hear the various testimonies that have been borne, and I hope that the prayer of Brother Hyde may be answered in my behalf that my words may be inspired by the Holy Ghost. We have just listened to the testimony of one of the Brothers who holds the fullness of the Keys of the Priesthood, and who has been celled to help perpetuate the Priesthood of Elijah. This Priesthood has always been since the day of Adam. The powers of darkness of Satan are the opposite. It is his mission to try to see that the Priesthood does not function. It is the mission of God to see that Priesthood does function. Priesthood is law eternal law. Priesthood is the power by which worlds are made, by which mountains may be moved, by which the resurrection is going on, by which the sick may be healed and the blind may see. The opposed to 13

Priesthood is priest craft, which is the Devil's power; therefore the great issue today is Priesthood. If Priesthood could be overcome at the present time, there would be nothing for Satan to do. That is the issue, and that is what we have got to meet. It has been the Priesthood that has been talking tonight, particularly in the words of Brother Barlow. A great many of the brethren here hold the Priesthood which is after the order of Melchizedek which is after the order of Heaven. We are a part of that order. It is presided over by the Lord, Jesus Christ, so that those who have been talking tonight are members of that order. Do we realize what the Priesthood means to us? Do we magnify the Priesthood? We stand today as living servants of the living God, and by proper development and proper living and the acquirement of proper faith and diligence, we will be in a position to see God and know Him and talk and walk with Him, and to be a part of His retinue of officers. That is the purpose of the Priesthood and the work in 'which we are engaged. It is our purpose to prepare ourselves to go in into the presence of God. I can see that if a child leaves his home, it is the desire of the desire of that person to get back to his home. That is my ambition--to go back and meet my father and mother, and Brothers and sisters on the ether side. And that is your ambition, Brothers and sisters. But above all you have your heavenly Father and Mother whom you knew; on the other Side, and we want to be with them. If our memories were such that we could remember, we would remember the fight on the other side, and the spirits there were being prepared to come here to earth so that they could progress. They could not progress without their bodies. That is the great ambition of life--to increase and grow. It is an ingrown heritage of little children and babies to reach out and progress. We in our spirit condition were anxious to reach out and progress. Some of us have great burdens to bear, but we will grow with those burdens. We have Sister Nielson who is a widow and has great burdens to bear. The Lord will not require anything from us but what he will prepare the, way for us to accomplish it. There is no one here tonight that cannot get free from indebtedness if he will do the work of our Father which is in Heaven. He has promised us that. When we were on the other side, there was just as sad a parting there as death parting is here. Yet our Father taught us and we were prepared to come under these circumstances. The issue is Priesthood. The church is one organization and the Priesthood is another organization. The Priesthood organized the church. The church is the tool of the Priesthood. Only two percent of the people were true to the fullness of the Gospel. We have illustrated that before in thimbles, bushels, etc. What percent of the people in the church are thimbles? We have many learned people in the church, but are they thimbles in faith and building up the Kingdom of God. 14

Einstein, for example--he is educated, and has shown his capacity to see. We have more who are way beyond men like Einstein and other learned men of the world. Who are the winners? Remember that this is the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Gospel is the plan of salvation, and the Father has made rules and regulations by which we may get back into the Kingdom of God. You must adhere to the regulations that you have contracted with. We have made a contract with Father and mother in Heaven and we have bought a return trip ticket. There are certain rules by which we must use that ticket. Father says that you must live as Abraham lived (the United Order).· The United Order is not something that you will get for nothing. It will require effort, That order is going to make us work, make us become diligent make us one with each other, and one with our Eternal Father and Mother. The law of Abraham is another route that we have got to take in order to get back into the presence of Father and Mother, because He lives that law. He had wives upon the earth; He had children upon the earth, and there are people in this room ten tonight who are literal descendants of the Lord, Jesus Christ. Of course Jesus had a family. He had to do everything that His Father had done before Him. One of the laws that He commended Joseph Smith to abide was the law of plural marriage. Would a bachelor command everyone else to live the Celestial law? It is our desire and ambition to live that law. Some people here have said that they will have one man to herself. Maybe they will. Others who are bachelors are willing to take the consequences of that situation. I am here tonight to testify in the name of the Lord, Jesus Christ, that . if you want to get back into the presence of Father and Mother, Abraham, Isaac, Joseph, Brigham, etc. we are going to live the same law that these people lived and ,we are going to live it upon this earth in mortality, or we won't get there. I admonish you dear Brothers and sisters to be willing to work to obtain salvation. We have people who are working themselves to death, who are willing to give their lives, willing to go to the penitentiary or go to their graves if necessary. Let us quit this fluctuation. I call this audience to repentance, everyone of us. There is no one in this room night who no occasion not to repent. Prepare yourselves to get into a position that you can get into the Kingdom of God. God wants people who will stand in the face of death if necessary. God bless you, Amen.

Closing song: Secret Prayer.

Benediction: Brother George Woodruff.

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Minutes Sunday Night Meeting, Sept. 8, 1940 6:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.

First Song: o Ye Mountains High. Prayer: Brother Garrett Von Mondfrans. Second Song: Nay, Speak No Ill.

Brother Arnold Boss

Spoke on allowing the spirit of God guide and direct us when speaking; also in living the Gospel in its fullness and knowing that it is true.

Brother John Bistline of Cache Valley bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of

the Gospel in its fullness.

Brother Edward Christensen spoke and gave thanks to God for the Priesthood

and for the knowledge of where the Priesthood was, and in humility said that he was nothing without the Priesthood of God.

Brother Joseph W Musser:

I hope you mothers don't get too discouraged with your children. This house is close and warm, but it is the best we have. It is a blessing to meet here. I feel personally very grateful that Brother Zitting can find it possible for us to meet here. After all, the pattern of Heaven is the child. "Let the little children Come unto me, and forbid them not, for such is the Kingdom of Heaven." I just wanted to make that observation. We have a variety of testimonies tonight and have found them lodging in our hearts tonight. I think many of the inquiries in the hearts of many of our brethren have been answered, --- Brother Boss's words that let the spirit dictate to us. It is very discouraging to listen to our brethren in the Church who read and prepare their massages days ahead. The leaders of the Church are mainly doctors, lawyers, an men of education. They want to appeal to the world as grammatically correct. I have received the greatest enlightenment from men who are not orators of well educated, who are specifically correct in their language. The Lord can play upon those people because they will be guided by the Spirit. As that spirit operates on them they give faith to that Spirit and the brethren are fully edified. All you need, Brothers and sisters is to tell the Lord. Don't tell you neighbors. He will answer

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your prayers and enlighten our spirits. Those things come from God. That is why He wants us to speak by the Spirit of the Lord, not by lead pencil. It is very encouraging the way the work is growing. Last Sunday we were down south and we met at New Harmony. I didn't expect to see more than 40 or 50 people, but we had 146 at that meeting. People came from all parts to that meeting. It is certainly edifying to see such a wonderful sight. I am going to mention tonight a woman who wasn't a member of the Church and a few years ago married one of our brethren. She is preparing to bring another child into life. Her body was clothed at a cost of about fifty cents, the most plain and unattractive clothing. Her husband is a hard working man. when I looked into her face I saw a divinity that I could not resist,--a veritable angel. What did she care about what she was clothed in. What matter to her how she looked outwardly. She was bringing forth life and preparing for the Kingdom of God. She was multiplying and replenishing the earth. She was not ashamed and she had a right to be and feel proud of that which she represented. She came to me and said, "I want my husband to enter into that covenant. I am very much impressed along this line--that is the work we are to carry on. We were told to see that not a year past without having children born in that covenant. Children who are not born and adopted into that covenant will die and perish. The law of Abraham is life, and it meant life to them. Joseph Smith introduced it into this generation. You cannot go where Father is unless you live the law that He lives. You cannot go where Abraham is unless you live the law that he introduced. Do we want to go where our Father and Mother is? Then we must live the law that they live. We can't go into their presence unless we live it. In order to enter the Celestial glory, we must comply with the law that God has given. Now, my brethren and Sisters, it is up to us to understand these things. I would like to see this people become the greatest people on the earth. The seeds of life are here if you will obey God's commandments. The enemy is set here to sweep down upon us. It is life that we have got to live. What if they do come down upon us? The countenances of men and women on the streets today have the countenances of death. This is a special group of people. There is no other group in all the world like it. We have our white Indians and they have their apostles, yes, but this group of people is the group that represents life in the eternal worlds. We should stop the infernal gossiping and criticizing. For your sake, and for God's sake, let us quit talking about our neighbor. We should speak Good of one another as the song "Nay Speak No Ill" tells us. It is a habit we should cultivate. Brethren, none of you are perfect and we all have our faults. They lie about us, but what do we care as long as they don't learn the truth about us and tell that on us. Show me a woman or a man that is perfect. You are not worshipping me-- you are following God the Eternal Father through me. The tradition of keeping the 17

outside clean and letting the rest go should be destroyed. That is what the world is doing today--bathing three or four times a day and the inside is rotten. May the Lord bless us and let us listen. We are here to work not to play. We are here to try to get back to our Father who is in Heaven. I want to get there, even if it takes my life. I want to be with my father. I was with him once, I knew him. I want to do what he has done and be what he is.

God bless you, Amen.

Soprano Solo by Anne Dockstader: Oh, Let us in His Footsteps Trod".

Brother Marion Hammon: bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the

Gospel in its fullness, that plural marriage must be lived in order for us to be saved in the highest glory, and that we must be ready to give all for the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

I know that the Gospel is true, every principle of it. I know that God know that I know it. I don't claim to be much of a prophet, but every man who holds the Priesthood of God and the Holy Ghost is a prophet, for the Holy Ghost is the spirit of prophesy. I want to bear testimony to all the things said tonight.

Brother Joseph referred to the sister down in New Harmony. When I first

knew that sister she was very much opposed to the group and the principle of plural marriage. Afterwards she received them and now is fighting for them. I want to say to the Sisters, the Lord in speaking says if a man had ten women sealed to him he couldn't commit sin, for they were given to him, and for your exaltation that you may bear the souls of men. Here we bear the body. On the other side we bear the souls of man. This is for your exaltation that you may bear the souls of men. Life and death is set before us. One goes on and grows, eternal increase. The other goes the other way, back to the mother elements from which we're organized. God bless this people. Brothers and sisters, study this for yourself. Only the Council of God will stand. I know the Priesthood is here. on the earth and God has not taken it from us. Nephi said the Lord never asks us to do anything without preparing the way for us. It won't be long before we will go back to the Temple to do work. If you are not wearing the garments of the Priesthood, you will not get in. Whenever you change or mutilate the garments, you are not doing right.

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God bless you. Let us go on. Some are being tried today and I know how we are being tested. Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven. It is only in that way that we can gain our exaltation. Let us take these things home. What are we doing? I told you a short time ago to get the Spirit of God and keep it around you. If you won't do it, you won't get protection. Amen.

Closing song: Oh Say What is Truth. Benediction: Brother G. L. Dockstader.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, Sept. 22, 1940, 2:00 p.m.

Brother Joseph W. Musser presided and conducted.

First Song: Oh Thou Rock of our Salvation. Prayer: Brother Frank Pollard. Second Song: Gladly, Meeting, Kindly Greeting.

Brother Charles F. Zitting:

Spoke on the United Order, that we must first live it in our own homes, and God will reveal it to us when we are ready to live it as a group.

Brother Joseph Jessop reported on the Joseph T. Jones funeral.

Brother Lauritzen of southern Utah bore his testimony as to the truthfulness

of the Gospel in its fullness.

Brother Abbott of Napa, Wyoming bore his testimony and gave thanks to God

for the knowledge he had of the conditions as they exist today, and prayed that he and his family may be counted worthy to go back to Jackson County to build up the New Jerusalem.

Brother Ianthus Barlow: bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the

Gospel and that we must teach our children to pray.

Song: Truth Reflects Upon Our Senses (Congregation).

Brother David W. Jeffs:

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My dear Brothers and sisters, this is in a degree a surprise to me and yet I have had the intuition that the Lord had something for me to say. I have been greatly impressed with the humble remarks of the speakers proceeding me and I analyzed in my mind this group, these people who are gathering together to hear the word of the Lord, and quickly flashing through my mind were the words of the Savior, "I have come to bear witness unto the truth, and those who are of the truth hear my voice." The Devil is fighting these people in their homes. He is fighting everything that is being done to try to thwart the truth. Throughout the Church many people have a desire for the truth but they do not get it through the teachings of the Church only in a degree. I am reminded of a lady who came to our door to know which way I would vote, for Roosevelt or Wilke. I told her that I was not expressing anything along that line, that I will know which way I will vote when the time comes. Then I called her attention to the conditions existing in the world, and to the prophesy of Orson Pratt in Great Britain that it would be Brought down and the Royalty would be Brought down to the dust. I called her attention to this country, the great sins, and immorality of the people and of Salt Lake City as well. She then asked me if I was a Mormon. I told her I was a Latter Day Saint. She said it thrilled her to know that someone still believes in the truths. She wanted to stay longer but had to leave. She rejoiced in the remarks that we had made. There are hundreds of people throughout the intermountain country whose hearts are hungering for righteousness. In the 84th Section of the Doc. & Cov. the Lord says they that come not unto me are under the bondage of sin. We see the conditions as they exist today. Many of the people in the Church will not fall away, but will adhere to the truths of the Gospel. Heber C. Kimball said, "It is knowledge that saves you"

Brother Johnson, son of Benjamin F. Johnson

spoke and called attention to-the conditions of the Church today and of the world in general.

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

Mining men in taking a sample of ore go to the wall of the ore body and take it from different places. Then they take that to the chemist and the chemist gets an average of it and tests the gold and silver and determines the value of the ore. Today we have taken different samples of different people in this room. Have you heard anything today that justifies you in being excluded from the Church of Jesus Christ today. So the words of Brother Johnson are true about President Grant. We honor him as President of the Church, it is true. Brother Jeffs said, know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." The truth is the word and light of God, the light 20

of Heaven. How shall we handle that truth? We must live it as well as know it. Satan knows the truth, but he is not free; he is in bondage. Are you wives jealous of the others? If you are, you do not know the truth and are not free. Are you prejudiced? If you are; you are not free and do not know the truth. Do we criticize those whom we have no right to criticize? If you do, you do not know the truth and are not free. Brothers and Sisters, if we want to be free and go back to where our Heavenly Father is and back in His presence, we will know the truth and keep that truth, and if we will do that we will be free, and Satan cannot tempt us. When we know the truth we are free and we cannot be influenced by Satan and darkness. Let us know the truth and live it. There will be no jealousies; there will be no criticism, particularly talk and fault-finding, with one another and going into each other's lives with a microscope. We must stop it! Just as soon as. we learn what truth is, we learn what it is to be free. God bless you, Amen.

Last song: o Say 'What is Truth. Benediction: Brother Andrew Revne By L. Allred.

Minutes Sunday -Evening Meeting, Oct. 6, 1940 5:00 P.M-

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.

First Song: "I Come Let Us Anew." Opening Prayer: Rulon T. Jeffs. Second Song: "Come, Come Ye Saints."

Brother John Y. Barlow:

We have visitors from Idaho, California, Short Creek, New Harmony and Cedar City. We have just listened to the Conference and heard from the Church leaders some Good sermons, but the talk was fine. Now what will they do? We had boys go down to Priesthood meeting and policemen took them off the Temple grounds. Remember this one thing, Brothers and sisters, "they will cast you out of their synagogues. Now they say you must live the fullness of the Gospel. Those who have tried to live the fullness of the Gospel, doesn't it sound strange? But if you do they will kick you out. I am not afraid. Brothers and Sisters, we want you to see what is happening. The same cause always produces the same effect. Jesus said if you live Godly, you must suffer persecutions. Apostle James said, "He who is a 21

friend of the world is an enemy of God." Christ and Lucifer cannot mix, and Christ's work is to go on to perfection and Lucifer's work is to destroy. I was thinking along the lines of the scriptures where it says, "Prophecy came not by the will of man; but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." I thought of Abraham. What kind of a man was he? He knew God and he prepared bread and water and God sat down and ate with him. Abraham had so much weight with God. Then come down to Jacob. God told him that because he kept all His laws and commandments, when His city is built he would sit at the head and the name of his twelve sons would be on the pearly gates. Joseph Smith inquired of the Lord as to the marriage system. The Lord told him that inasmuch as he had inquired of this, He would answer him touching this matter and told him to prepare himself to obey instructions for everyone who has revealed to them this law must obey it or be damned. I thought today during the sermons at Conference that I could not hear what they say because of what they are. Brothers and sisters, think these things over. Find out for yourselves. Go before the Lord and get a testimony for yourselves. That is the way you can find out whether it be of God or of man. I ask God to bless you that everyone who speaks tonight may be fed with the bread of life, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Williams of California spoke on living the fullness of the Gospel.

Get the light and live it.

Brother Elmer Johnson from Short Creek bore his testimony as to the

truthfulness of the work of this group and that it was the people that would be drawn out of the Church to lead the people in righteousness.

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

I have been asked to speak, my Brothers and Sisters, and I desire the spirit of the Lord and particularly an interest in the prayers of each one here tonight that in these meetings we can receive a message to us if we desire it and strive in our faith to receive it. This is a momentous occasion. Saints from all the western country are here tonight and the spirit of Saints all over the U. S. is here tonight,--New York, Kansas, Toronto, Chicago and other places where they are beginning to read and inquire about the Truth. What is truth? One of the apostles of the Quorum of the Twelve said that the Truth Magazine published the truth, but we are not ready for the truth and they are 22

not authorized to publish truth. God is truth; the Gospel is truth, the laws which God has laid down are all truth. Then if we are not ready for truth, what are we ready for? It must be a very embarrassing situation to the leaders of the Church to have to make such statements. I was embarrassed with one feature of the talks in Conference--that the doctors, lawyers, etc. prepared their talks on paper; Brother Widstoe, Merrill, etc. Those who heard their sermons must have missed the spirit of the Lord. Levi Edgar Young did not write his remarks, and gave us a talk that was inspirational. He "cut the mustard." He was as strong as he could be. .Joseph Fielding Smith did not write his remarks and he gave us very sound and definite words. It is a serious thing to live the fullness of the Gospel and then have the brethren of the Church put us in jail.

Apostle Paul said (Galatians 5:19-23), Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these, Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envying, murders, drunkenness, reveling, and such like; of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy) peace, longsuffering, gentleness, Goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance; against such there is no law." I would say that everyone in this meeting tonight is guided by love, faith, temperance, etc. When men and women are not wicked, when they are guided by the spirit of the Gospel, there is no law to direct against them because they are living the higher law. I was impressed with such feeling that they had a spirit of love in the conference, but the leaders of the Saints are giving all the light they have been given. Some of them have received the fullness of the Gospel, but are teaching much to the contrary. It is plain in my mind that going from the light their minds have been darkened. If you are walking in the dark toward a fire the light becomes brighter, but if you turn and. go back into the darkness the light leaves you. Same as the brethren in the Church are turning against the light of the truth. They now can't understand why we cannot wait until the Lord gives us another commandment.

The Lord has already given us the commandment and He can't give it any more clearly,--Section 132 of the Doctrine and Covenants in 1843 and in 1880 He gave another revelation that endorses the principle; In 1882 another revelation that compels the living of that principle; 1886 another revelation in which all the former revelations were restated. He said that those who would receive the blessings of Abraham must do the works of Abraham. God knows His limitations and He made no limitations. That law cannot be revoked. Therefore He said, "I 23

have not revoked the law, nor can I. In 1889 President Woodruff went to the Lord because the people were unsettled. Washington demanded that President Woodruff sign on the dotted line. He went to the Lord and the Lord told him to make no promises and to be guided by the Spirit. These fellows who are trying to get you to sign papers saying you will not enter into His law--do not listen to them. "I will fight your battles," the Lord said, "If you will do what I tell you". Now the Brethren say, "It you do, we will cut you off. The Lord said, "Let no men cast out my people." We had men for over 100 years preach freedom of thought and actions. Now they will not let men come on to the grounds of the Temple. The Lord will curse these brethren.

These wise men (doctors, lawyers, etc. who are writing their sermons in the Church meetings)--it is to tickle the ears of the people, not to stir their souls, and show what great men they are. That is what inspires them to write their speeches down. God is not pleased with this. He wants them to receive the Spirit and give food to the people. I feel stirred up in my feelings about these things. I have been active in the Church for 60 years. I was commanded under the direction of President Lorenzo Snow to enter into the principle of Celestial Marriage, and take another wife, and to prepare myself to help keep the principle alive. When I was given another wife by an apostle, I was directed to take another wife; and I was given that wife under the direction of a member of the Quorum of the Twelve. That man remained in harmony with the principle. I say this because I want you to know that this law has been commanded to be lived. I want you Brothers and sister to realize the great importance of the principal of life that God has given us. That man was given authority to exercise the Priest of Elijah in the Temple, and these brethren (speaking of the Counsel) in the Priesthood were given the same authority. We have all been called by direct revelation from God just as Brother ----- was called in the Quorum of Twelve. We were ordained patriarchs in the Great High Priesthood of God and we hold that authority today. That is why you Brothers and sisters who see us and talk with us on the street, the Church authorities will cast you out. They won't let you speak to us; they won't let you read the "Truth" because of investigation. We have men come to our homes at night so they won't be seen, and ask Questions. They say you must keep away from us. Why? Because the Devil has been raging. The Devil wanted to see that we did not reach those high principles. It is the Priesthood that they are after and are trying to destroy in polygamy. It is the Priesthood that Satan is trying to destroy, and today because these brethren hold the Priesthood, we are the target, and you Brothers and sisters must beware if you don't want to be acted upon and ostracized. They call us some of the worse names 24

that they can call us. They say, "We want the love of the world (speaking of the Church)." This group is asking for the love of God. We are trying to maintain our ways and we want the love of Jesus Christ and the love of the real Saints; we want the love of the Eternal Father. We want no part of the world. If we have the love of the world, we are not in the faith of Jesus Christ. We want to build up the Kingdom of God. I feel stirred up in my feelings in these things. I have been told by one of the members of the Quorum of the Twelve that I was justified in what I have done but, "We want you back in the Church. No I said, "my work is to keep this principle alive, not to repudiate it." Where is our heart? Is it in the world? Is it attached to the Church or is it in the Kingdom of our Father in Heaven? Are we willing to take upon ourselves persecution for the works of Christ? We shall do, or go back into the Church. Anyone who is not willing to be hated, lied about, to go to prison, if necessary, or surrender our lives if necessary, let us go back to the Church. But for me and my house, I shall lead it to the House of Israel and take the consequences.

God bless you. Amen.

Song: "Think Gently of the Erring One" (Congregation)

Brother Richard Jessop of St.-George bore his testimony and thanked the

Lord for the privilege of living the fullness of the Gospel, for his parents who taught him. the truths of life, and that he can prove faithful and true to the light that he has received. He said he knows that the Gospel is true, that Jesus is the Christ and that we are in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Brother Alma Singleton of St. Anthony, Idaho bore his testimony to the

truthfulness of the Gospel.

Brother Louis Kelsch:

He contrasted the speakers of this meeting with those at the Conference and spoke of those brethren of the group who were put off the Temple grounds for attending the meetings there. This is the life to do the things that will lead us to salvation. You can't live the laws of the Gospel if you follow the instructions the Church gives you. I want to testify that all the Gospel includes plural marriage, temple ordinances baptism, atonement, etc. We have to become in tune with its laws and principles and subject our bodies to them. It has been said by former leaders of the church in farmer days that the leaders of this church would lead the church to the brinks of hell. They 25

don't want anyone else to live the Gospel in its fullness; they won't, and they don't want us to do it. There has been a complete reversal of the principles taught in the early days. We believe as Latter Day Saints that we have the only true Gospel and plan of salvation upon this whole earth at the present time. It is the plan by "Which sin, death, etc. of the earth today can be eliminated. It is so we can follow the principles of life, and the body says follow the principles of death. We have to overcome it and in this life. We have had pointed out to us by former leaders of the Church that there are two ways to eternal life--one to life and one to death. I know there is a change coming. There is a new order being established in the eastern nations. It is an order compared to the present world systems which is better. It will be better than what the world is use to today, but it is not a better system from our way of looking at it because it must be run by force, even to the point of varying with them--off goes your head. We don't want that type of government. Men have not the power to govern themselves--it takes God. He must keep telling us what to do in order that we can be governed properly. Now the time will not be far off when there will be a new order which is the Kingdom of God. You will see that government be established before long and it will heat the earth as a light upon it. That is the new order--the Kingdom of God-and the forces of the nations will come in conflict with it. It is not far off. The most righteous will come westward and flee to the place of safety. Men will be tried and made ready to start this new Holy City. They will be the ones thru which the Lord will speak. Another thing that seems significant to me is that it was 54 years ago on September 26-27 when the three powers signed the pact which would invade this nation. Orson Hyde said the time would come when foreign powers will invade and break the channels to this nation and people will say, "Was the Prophet Joseph Smith a true prophet of God?" These prophecies will all be fulfilled. Heber C. Kimball prophecy --The people will flock to us where there will be plenty and later there will be a time when there will be not a grain of seed left. The deliverance of the Saints in this time of the world will be more unforgettable than the deliverance of the Saints of Israel. Unless you have lived worthy you will not be able to get through and be saved. What would be better than to be together in the Millennium or in the Celestial Kingdom? The way is to subject our bodies and lives to the principles of the Gospel.

President Grant-I wish I could help him. I have no ill will toward anyone in the

world, but they would think I was presumptuous.

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Those who get through the trials and sacrifices will be pure as gold. May we all attain that, is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

Fifty years ago today the Manifesto was adopted by the Church at General Conference. From President Young – "Look upon the opposite side of the true principleslet us go after and seek for the things of the world neglect the things pertaining to our salvation, and seek after gold. I tell you that the result of that would be that you would cease to increase; lessen, diminish and waste away until your organization becomes extinct; until the bread of live is blotted out of your lives." Get the spirit of God! We can see what is coming! God has promised us deliverance if we will obey Him. Make no promises further to your enemies, but defend our great cause as you are moved upon by the Holy Ghost. Are we living up to what we profess? If not, we are professing a lot and do you think the Lord will favor us any more than anyone else? No! Things are shaping where we will live the united order willingly because we will have to. I pray that will come soon when we will have to take care of ourselves. I ask God to bless you that you may treasure up the things we have heard today. We believe in all truth. Live so that God will recognize us. We have got to have revelation. Jeremiah says, "What has the Lord said and what has He spoken."

God bless you. Amen.

Closing Song: A True to the Faith." Benediction: Chas. F. Zitting.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting Nov. 10, 1940 2:00 p.m.

Brother D. W. Jeffs presided and conducted

(as appointed by the Priesthood Counsel who were traveling in the East at this time.) First Song: "Redeemer at Israel." Opening Prayer: Brother Joseph Jessop of Millville. Second Song: "The Lord is My Light" 27

Brother Jeffs:

I don't know that I was ever more thrilled in my life than today, though in the absence of the Priesthood Counsel I know their prayers are with us. It is wonderful to look into the countenances of all of you--the purity in your hearts and the beauty of your souls. I know the spirit of the Lord is with us and the brethren.

Brother Rulon C. Allred:

My Brothers and sisters, I rejoice in this opportunity to speak to you and I sincerely hope that the spirit of God may be with me that I may say nothing of myself, but that He may dictate what He wants me to say. I desire that the spirituality of myself may be improved upon that I may add to your spirituality. I sincerely hope that I may have the spirit of God to abide with me that I may be an instrument in His hands. We are oft times accused of being over-balanced and running to excess in many things. There is great possibility of that with all of us. The command of God is that we walk in accordance with every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God. To hope that we may have the gift of the Holy Ghost without the laying on of hands is contrary to the word of God; nor can we receive forgiveness of sins Without baptism. Every law must be obeyed before we can receive the blessing upon which it is predicated. All that we do should be with an eye single to God's glory. We cannot hope to receive the blessings of temporal salvation without obedience to the laws that God has given. We seek not only power in this life through obedience to the laws; we seek: to become perfect. The law of tithing alone will save us from being burned and the blessings predicated upon that law are sufficient to make us desire to abide it, that we might be spared at Christ's coming. God condemned Mahonri-Moriancumer, the Brother of Jared, for not living up to the law of prayer. If we do not remember our prayers morning, noon and night, we cannot hope to obtain that spirit of God as we are entitled to, With an eye single to his glory. The Lord has said we should offer up our sacrifices and partake often of the Sacrament. We as Light becomes Day Saints believe in all the laws of GOD. We believe there are certain blessings that are predicated upon the obedience of those laws. There is one commandment that we as a people do not stress, because it needs stress, for the people have turned from it; a law we are accused of being fanatical about--the law of Celestial or plural marriage. Joseph Smith, Brigham 28

Young, Heber C. Kimball and. Joseph F. Smith believed in that law and lived it. Our late Joseph F. Smith said that we cannot obtain the same glory with one wife and a man cannot obtain to that fullness without living this holy law. I bear witness in the name of God that that law is true and right. That law was given in this dispensation of time and is essential to this dispensation. It is the law of God and it is my testimony to you and to the nations of the earth.--no man who walks on this earth who does not abide it will receive the fullness of Celestial glory. The law was revealed in 1831 to Joseph Smith. A little later on he explained that law to a few of his close associates, those whom he knew he could trust. In 1838 the great apostasy, including nine of the apostles, was due to the Prophet's practicing that law, for Benj. F. Johnson testifies such was the case. Oliver Cowdry accused the Prophet of adultery stating be had caught him with Fannie Alager. Henry Bates Nobles sealed Louisa Beaman to the Prophet. Subsequent to this time we have the names of 27 wives 'Who were given to him by Brigham Young and others. He lived the law and taught it by example. Others of the apostles during the life of the Prophet lived that law. The church as a body did not receive it until 1852. About 1841 the Prophet was asked: "Do the Mormon people believe in the law of polygamy? He answered, "No they do not." But those to whom it was revealed not only believed it but practiced it. In 1848, six years after the law was submitted to the higher orders of the Priesthood, the Prophet Brigham Young revealed that law to some of the Saint s at Winter Quarters. In 1852 at a special conference Brigham Young presented that law to the members of the church. At the time Brigham Young and the Saints came to the Rockies every elder was required to be re-baptized and re-confirmed. and covenanted everyone to live the law which was revealed to them. Yet, less than 3% of the Priesthood ever lived Celestial marriage, for the others were too weak to live it. In 1880 the Lord through Wilford Woodruff said, "Woe unto that people who prevent my people from living that law" In the 1886 revelation the Lord said, "I have not revoked this law (plural marriage) nor will I" In 1889 the Lord plead with too people never to reject "that law, but in 1889 or 1890 more than 2000 of our brethren were in the penitentiary and the leading brethren were under great strain. In 1890 Wilford Woodruff said he was inspired to write the manifesto; but Chas. W. Penrose says he wrote it. God did not revoke that law; He said he would not, so Wilford Woodruff made a covenant with death and hell. In 1890 the people of the State of Utah (97% of them were Mormons) began legislative action to obtain statehood and drafted a constitution forever outlawing polygamy. I myself believe that Wilford Woodruff was inspired to write the Manifesto. The church voluntarily as a church set that law aside. Wilford Woodruff did what God told him to do. That Manifesto did not stop that law. Lorenzo Snow in addressing the courts said: "Though I go to prison, God will not change the divine 29

law of Celestial marriage, but the nation and the people who oppose it and the church and Kingdom of God mall be destroyed." God will not reject that law and the people prohibiting the living of it shall be dammed. God cannot deny His word or He would cease to be God.

I bear you my solemn testimony that the law of Celestial Marriage is binding upon all those who believe it to be the word of God, and those who know it to be true and consistently refuse to live it shall be damned. We as a people must have the spirit of the Lord. Theo Lord needs righteous, humble people, and people of integrity. Let us say in our hearts, "Lord, all that I have is thine." Those who are not willing to give all for the Gospel will fall short of exaltation. May the Lord forgive us of all our fault-finding, back-biting etc. I do not condemn you, Brothers and sisters; I judge you according to my own acts. I am trying to keep the commandments of God; I know my imperfections my lack of humility, my lack of wisdom and understanding.

May God give us strength to do the Lord's Will and keep His commandments

I pray in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

Vocal Solo: Bm. Solomon Denos, "Open the Gates of the Temple."

Brother Arnold Boss:

My Brothers and sisters, I hope that I may have a portion of the spirit of the Lord this afternoon. The Priesthood body is not with us today. Agency is an eternal law. God tells us the truth and invites us to receive it. The time has come when, as God said, there would have to be a people raised up, that they would come from the North, South, East and West; that the leaders of the church would be cast out. That is why the Priesthood Counsel is not here today. They are gathering out the honest in heart. The people in this valley of the mountains have turned the Gospel down. The fullness of the Gospel does not confine itself to the State of Utah it is for the whole world, Atlantic to Pacific and the North Pole to the South Pole. The work of God is not going to be confined to the valleys of these mountains, for there are other tribes, other groups. We are living at a time when the wickedness of the nations is ripened. Such conditions prevailed upon this American continent in the time of the Nephites. There is not another nation in the world where the wickedness prevails so abundantly as it does on this continent. We are living upon a dedicated hemisphere. Palestine is the only other land that 30

such bas been true. There never was a country too that committed the crimes that Palestine did; and this country is a dedicated one. The Lord revealed to Jared that unless the people honored God that they would be wiped off the earth. This part of the world is where Adam and where the Garden of Eden was. He blessed this American continent. No one had a better right to do this. God is going to remove the wicked form this continent. Brothers and sisters, do what is right. We have no right to sneak and spy on our neighbors. The Lord is going to curse this land as He did in the days of Noah. He will cleanse the earth of its wickedness. Brothers and sisters, in your business transactions, be sure they are honest. Testimony of Wilford Woodruff—when the judgments shall fall on the people in these valleys of the mountains they will start in the temple of the Lord. They wi1l go out from there. Brothers and sisters, let us carry the Spirit of God with us wherever we go. The Prophet said: "Tell the Latter Day Saints to get the Spirit of God and keep it.

The work of God is growing.

Brother Jeffs:

These men have spoken to you through the spirit of God. Reference to Mosiah 29:25-27: "Therefore, choose you by the voice of this people, judges, that ye may be judged according to the laws which have been given you by our fathers, which are correct, am which were given them by the hand of the Lord. Now it is not common that the voice of the people desireth anything contrary to that which is right; but it is common for the lesser part of the people to desire that which is not right; therefore this shall ye observe and make it your law-- to do your business by the voice of the people. And if the time comes that the voice of the people doth choose iniquity, then is the time that the judgments of God will come upon you; yea, then is the time he will visit you with great destruction even as he has hitherto visited this land. Unless man abides the law of patriarchal order of marriage on earth, he cannot beget spirit children. Reference to Ether 9:12 and stated that Brother Allred gave the keynote. The coming of the San of Man. What are we doing? Do we disagree with what has been said? We must have the Spirit of Charity and love in our hearts. He then read the Beatitudes (charity).

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When I think of the inspired women in this group who are giving their strength to help the poor and the needy, I thank God for them. Let us apply some of these things to ourselves. Yes, I plead guilty too. I want to say in the name of the Lord, If this people are faithful and true they will help build Zion in Jackson County. The Priesthood Counsel is carrying on a special work leading up to the setting of the Lord's house in order. May the Lord bless us that may have more charity in our hearts and grow more united. God bless you and inspire you and help me to be a better man and do more Good, I ask in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, amen.

Closing Song: "Oh, It is Wonderful" by the chorus. Prayer: Brother. I. W. Barlow.

LJAllred.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, Nov. 24, 1940 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.

First Song: .I For the Strength of the Hills Prayer: Brother H. C. Allred. Second Song: " 0 Say What is Truth ."

Brother Barlow: Brothers and. sisters, we are glad to be back with you again.

Brother Louis Kelch:

Brothers and Sisters, This is a good place to be. When I stop to think of the members of the church today, then I think of our belief, we are a very peculiar people, but it is a Good place to be. I feel like recalling just briefly the course we followed on our trip East. We left here and went up through Weber Canyon, southern Nebraska into Omaha. We saw the cemetery where many of the Saints (Winter Quarters) were buried. The church has purchased the location of the cemetery and they have Mormons there. It is very inspiring to go through the cemetery am read over some of the name of the Saints buried there.

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From there we went to Carthage. The church is taking proper care of the sacred landmarks. We went to the jail, then to Nauvoo, a beautiful sight on the Mississippi River. The city is given over now to the Catholics. They have taken great rocks of the temple and put in some of their Catholic buildings. The Reorganized Church now owns the buildings and they are keeping them in Good condition. From there we went to Mt. Rose Island where the Saints were driven in the cold winter. In Chicago there are some Saints who trying to live the Gospel not many, for Chicago is a wicked city. The Saint there want to come here. From there we went to Cleveland, Ohio; Niagara Falls and crossed into Canada a (Toronto) where we visited with the Saints. They wish to come here to live, but they cannot leave Canada at this time and won't be able to until the Lord opens the way. They have the same spirit as exists in this meeting today. Then we came back to the U.S. and went east through Albany, N.Y. As we traveled we read the history of the places as we visited than Albany is one of the cities which is to be destroyed. Also Boston and New York. Not one person in Albany was interested in the Gospel. It was predicted that Albany would be destroyed. (I should have mentioned the Kirtland Temple, and we were privileged to go through the temple. We saw Joseph's house, etc. You can't go into the building without feeling the things that have transpired. ) Then we went to Boston, New York and visited the Saints in Brooklyn across the East River, and to Long Island. The Saints there are sincere and look up to us Saints out here. The thing that is so impressive is that when you go where Saints are who believe the fullness of the Gospel, you feel a oneness of spirit. We went to Washington, D. C., Jackson County where the New Jerusalem is to be and the lot for the temple that is to be built. That is briefly the trip that we took, but I am glad to be home again. We are lucky enough that we want to stay here. Under conditions as they are, this is a Good place. May the Lord bless us, I ask in the name of Jesus Christ Amen.

Brother Charles Zitting:

Brothers and Sisters, I am glad to be with you again. It was two weeks today that we had our meeting in New Yolk. The families there are converted as a whole. The same in Canada. We visited the Mormon chapel in Washington D. C. That is really a sad sight to see. The church is supposed to have paid 1/2 million dollars for the chapel. Inside by the fireplace there is birds eye marble. The chapel has been built a little over seven years. Of the half million dollars about one-half was spent for the marble which is now being destroyed. The building will seat 450 people, including the amusement hall. I was surprised that it was so small at the cost that was made for the building of it. There were cracks in the marble and outside of the 33

building. It is the worst looking wilding on the street (16th Street) where there are aristocrats of the city. It must have been a beautiful building when it was first built. It is a shame to see a building like the going to pieces. We did find some Saints there in Washington, D. C. and had a nice visit with them. We went down into Independence t Mo. The streets were full of people, yet I felt lonely in the crowd. The people of that town are the off spring of those who persecuted our Saints in the early days. We are glad to be back with you and partake of your spirit. We know more than ever before that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is true. He spoke of the Josephite Book and the statements therein: That plural marriage has been done away with and will never came back, that the Reorganized Church has had continued revelations in the name of Abraham, Isaac and. Jacob (not the Lord), etc. They state the Prophet Joseph Smith had only one wife. May God bless you all that we may carry on and live worthy of His blessings, is my prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Tenor Solo: Brother Solonon Denos, "It was for Me".

Brother Jos. W. Musser:

My Brothers and sisters, I have been asked to speak briefly on this occasion and I hope that I am prompted by the same Good spirit that has appeared in our singing and speaking thus far. "It Was for Me", for you, for each of us, for all the world that Jesus came and suffered and this is the sum and substances, the beginning and the end of our work, our efforts here in mortality. "Behold, this is mine authority, and the' authority of my servants, and my preface unto the book of my commandments which I have given them to publish unto you, o inhabitants of the earth, Wherefore, fear and tremble, O ye people, for what I the Lord have decreed in them shall be fulfilled. And the arm of the Lord mall be reveal and the day soon cometh that they who will not hear the voice of the Lord neither the voice of his servants neither give heed to the words of the prophets and apostles, shall be cut off from among the people; For they have strayed from mine ordinances, and have broken mine everlasting covenant; etc."

(D. & C. Sec. 1:6) Now this, my Brothers and. sisters, the narratives that have been given today blend into this revelation. The Saints were organized in western New Yolk in 1830. The Lord gave than there and then, the privilege of perfecting themselves and receiving the fullness of the Gospel, receiving the fullness of salvation, receiving a fullness of exaltation; they could have received those great and glorious blessings 34

at that time if they had been prepared at that time. Moses lead the people of Israel forth out of Egypt, but because of their stiff neckedness and hard-heartedness, it took than 40 years and all except two had to die in the wilderness. And the Saints in New York had to be driven out. They had not prepared themselves. They were driven out into Ohio and there in Kirtland built a temple, a place where God might come and visit with His leaders and visit with His people. But they were not prepared then to receive His light. The Lord told them that two years from now (September) is the time set for the redemption of Zion, "If you will keep my commandments." Since the days of Father Adam the redemption of Zion has been looked forward to. All you have to do is keep my commandments. The two years passed the temple was completed and dedicated. While the veil was dropped in the Melchizedek room, the Lord came and appeared to Joseph and Oliver and under His feet was a tablet of gold. There the Lord instructed the Prophet and He accepted their efforts. The temple was built for ordinances at that time it was as far as the Lord was prepared to trust the Saints then, but as far as it was kept as a temple it was accepted. Then following that great revelation the Prophet Moses (he gathered thousand s of people out of Egypt) came and restored those keys to the Prophet Joseph that he could gather the people together. Elijah came and returned, or bestowed the keys of the sealing blessings to the Prophet the blessings of sealing on earth as is sealed in heaven, were given to the Prophet at that time. It was only a short time after that that Joseph was driven out of Kirtland. Brigham Young and Joseph had to flee for their lives with the faithful Saints. Zion had been established at that time. It was near Jackson County that the Garden of Eden stood, where Adam stood upon the earth and organized it. It was near Jackson County, near Springfield, Illinois, which we visited, (the Saints were gathered there), the establishing place of Zion; it was there God set His foot upon the earth. The Saints began to gather there and the Lord made them many wonderful promises. The order of Enoch, the United Order, was revealed to them, that all men might be equal and serve the Lord God and become perfect in this, mortal sphere. But our Saints were again too selfish; just as the children of Israel were driven out, so the Lord had to permit the Saint to be driven to Mt. Rose. They went there a poor and a beaten people. They had lost everything they were literally naked. They were taken in by some kind people there and were given clothing and food. They began to build another city, called Nauvoo, which is today a skeleton, a ghost town. The spirit of the Lord there is dead, yet the beauty of the town is a sight, a sight to behold, to look upon. They began to build strong and permanently. The prophets of God worked upon the assumption that the people were going to remain faith- full and true. While Nauvoo was not the head of Zion, they 35

built soundly and permanently and started to build another temple. They began to prosper and became rich, and they began to apostatize. Then the Lord revealed the fullness of the Gospel~ The principle that saves is often the principle that damns those who do not obey. The people began to commit whoredoms and began to fall. It was here that the life of the Prophet was taken. The conspiracy was started by some c£ the Prophets most close associates. So the Lord had to permit the Saints who were faithful to be driven from there. Our people had remained faithful and true only a few years. No doubt the Lord felt that with the experience at the Martyrdom. that the Saints would be stirred up. We visited the place where 600 of the Saint s had fallen and were buried. The monument to the grave of an unknown child and seven other unknown people. The irony of it is that it was placed there as a memorial and witness to the sacrifices that the Saints had made and to their loyalty in living the fullness of the Gospel, to symbolize that great event. Yet 'the names on the monument--the leaders of the church are destroying the very thing that is engraved on the monument to the early saints. Yet they are seeking to destroy the Saints today who are trying to live the fullness at the Gospel are being driven from the church into the wilderness, ostracized and cast out as unclean. They try to get the law after us, put us into penitentiaries, and drive us from our homes. Yet they have erected monuments to the thing that we are trying to perpetuate. Our people came here, some wanted to go to California, but Brigham Young said No, we want to live in a country where no one else will live, apace that is barren. We will stay here where we can reform, get back to the Lord, repent of our sins and raise up a monument to the Lord. Live your religion. Honor your Priesthood and follow the Priesthood. If the Priesthood goes astray, let God correct it. In the early days the Kingdom of God ruled in these mountains. Brigham Young was the president. Now, that lessen was not severe enough the Lord told us through the prophets those who survived ? The Lord allowed his people to go as they wanted – astray - our lands have become barren, etc. Yet in the early days the Lord tempered this land until the people became proud, vain; rich men sprung up among them. Just as far as the rich man would descend, so far would the poor man. go below him. This was one of the main things that impressed me on the trip. The Lord has told us these scriptures and laws are for us today, but we cannot have them unless we keep the commandments. 36

Leprosy-Elijah. The only science that can control it is the science of Heaven. The Lord said to dip 7 times in the River Jordan. So he went into the river and dipped three, five, seven times. If he had dipped once and stopped would he have been healed? No. Six times in the river? No. Why? Became God had given a prescription and. it means it must be obeyed to the very letter. The Lord has given several commandments. One of those laws is repentance. What should we repent of? Our Sins, everyone of you. If you are filled with pride repent of it. If you are jealous, get it out of your system. Quit pampering that feeling and get it out of your spirit. When a woman is jealous, she accepts her infertility. Wives, where your husbands are living in the order of plural marriage you can't be jealous. There is no place on earth for it. You can't take the place of another wife who is keeping the commandments of God. If you are bearing false witness, repent of it. Yes, cuss if you want to; drink if you want, but don't repudiate God. What you see in others, a fault, largely a reflection of what is within us ourselves. You are applying it in the wrong direction. God bless you, .Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

My Brothers and sisters, I have listened with interest to what the brethren have said. There are a few things that I want to bring to your minds. On our trip we went to the Sacred Grove and it was a privilege to go there. One of our brethren from Davis County is taking care of the Grove. We went to the Grove by ourselves and we had the privilege of praying there. When we think, Brothers and sisters, of what happened there, do you know before that time that God was a spirit. Do you realize that? But when this young boy prayed and God appeared unto him, he said no, God is a man, and the Father pointing to the Son said, "This is my beloved Son, Hear Him!" At that time there was a reopening, a foundation laid for the Latter Day Saints, it was a plan laid down whereby we had nothing tangible to live, to know that there is a living God. We went from there to the house where it was reported that Joseph received the Angel Moroni, and the Hill Camorah. That was the beginning of it. The other brethren have given you an account of some of those things and it has been a great lesson to me. Words of Malachi, Chap. 3, Verse 1: "Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me, etc." Moroni came, then John the Baptist came, then Peter, James and John came, Elijah, Moses came; then God suddenly came and talked with them and Joseph received the revelations.

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We had the privilege of driving our car on the boat where the Saint s had to cross on the ice, where the Saints at Iowa took care of them. We had the privilege of seeing in our minds eye, those things. We also had the privilege of standing and seeing where our beloved prophet was slain. I want to tell you the stains are still on the floor, the stains of President Taylor's blood and Hyrum's blood, and of Joseph. We saw the old well where that mighty man fell to the mob. We saw what happened to some of the homes of the Saints; most of them are empty. Now, these things have all happened. What does it make us think of? They all went through this that they might live the fullness of the Gospel. Joseph was murdered because he lived the fullness c£ the Gospel. God can't reject his everlasting laws. They can't be changed. Now here we are. A few years ago we were told that there was a people that would come out of the church. I want to tell you, my Brothers and sisters, I want to bear my testimony in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that it won't be long before the Lord will take a hand in these things. He will straighten things out for us. God bless you, Amen.

Closing Sang: "We Thank Thee O God for a Prophet".

Prayer- Brother T. R. Dockstader. LJAllred.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, Dec. 8, 1940 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided.

Brother Joseph W. Musser conducted.

First Song: "Oh Ye Mountains High. Prayer: Brother • Chapman Second Song: Joseph Smiths First Prayer.

Brother Fred Cleveland spoke first. He spoke of the price too that is

required of the people to reestablish the Patriarchal Order of Marriage, of the Prophet Joseph Smith and how great he was, of this nation and how it will fall, and bore his testimony that the Priesthood is on the earth and it functions independent of the church.

Brother Alma A. Timpson spoke next on the introduction to the Section 104

of the D. & C. on the United Order and the deliverance of the Saints out of bondage through humility and faith, on the redeeming grace of God, on preaching 38

the Gospel of repentance, on serving God with all your might, mind and strength; and bore his testimony saying how grateful beyond his power of expression he is for his knowledge of the divinity of the Priesthood Counsel knowing that they are men of God, and knowing that God lives.

Brother Marion Hammon:

He said the happiest hours of his life are spent meeting with the people of this group, where we can enjoy the Spirit of God. He said by your desires you shall be known, according to whom you serve, God, the Devil, or no one; and . that if you are to become Godly you musts serve God, with all your might, mind and strength. Subdue yourselves; therein lies the principle of Godhood--self-control.

Brother Rulon T. Jeffs;

He spoke of the favorite characters of the Book of Mormon, King Benjamin, etc. Brothers and sisters, I love you and want your love. Are we ready for the things that the Priesthood wants to give us. I am grateful for the association I have with your brethren and sisters and the blessings received at the hands of the Priesthood Counsel. Quoted words of Joseph Smith, Sec. 128 of the D. &; C., V. 22: "Brethren, shall we not go on in so great a cause? Go forward and not backward. Courage, brethren; and on, on to the victory! Let your hearts rejoice and be exceedingly glad, etc. He bore his testimony that he knows God lives and that Jesus is the Christ, that Joseph Smith is at the head at the head of this dispensation and he is here close to us today.

Song: The Spirit of God Like a Fire is Burning."

Brother Lyman Jessop:

He said he felt keenly the need of the spirit of the Lord. One of his wives asked if it was possible to weary the Lord with our prayers asking for little things. He has thought often of the weariness of the world. Every operation of man has its origin in divine truth. Would a mediator have been needed if man had not departed from God in the first place? Every prophet from the beginning has acted as a mediator between God and men. He said he is glad for the lives of his progenitors, and he knows much is expected of him. If we could only get away from the wields of men. We are required to live close to heaven so we may be able to live by the impressions of the spirit. Little children often speak words of the spirit. God lives in celestial burning, in eternal fire. 39

Illustration of picture on the wall-all light and no shadows we can discern nothing in the picture. I want an individual testimony of the light and truth when I have lived it. Don't let a barrier come between us and the Lord. May the Lord help us to acquire perfection. Let us follow the straight and narrow path, the path of righteousness.

Brother Lewis Kelsch: How many want to be saved? How many feel humble? I

feel so humble that I am weak. Lyman says he wants revelation for himself. God bless him, I say. If we don't so live that we don t receive revelations for ourselves, we will get off on the wrong track. The problem of life is a very detailed problem; it is a mighty teacher. Yet as I look over this congregation I say the plan of salvation is Broad. There are certain rules and regulations that we must abide with to be saved. I believe that we are "the people that has come out of the heart's core of the Latter Day Saints. Here are men of God who are endeavoring to honor the Priesthood which they hold. But we face perilous times. It is all ahead. What are we striving for on this earth? It is to know the mind and will of God. We must get must get to the point where we won't say evil of others. We must so live that we won't have the weaknesses that prevent God from being with us. Lecture on Faith--the most important thing today is to gain the knowledge of faith in God. Plural Marriage has never ceased since the time of Joseph Smith and it can't go on a detour. I think of all the powerful men in the world today, yet they haven't even the sense or knowledge to be baptized, the first principle of the Gospel. We all want to be saved. The most precious thing on earth is to be saved. Angels are men who did not magnify their callings. They don't have family in the next the nest life. They have no Kingman to rule over. To think that those before us--they so lived that we can have our families in the next life, but we must have a knowledge of all things to obtain that salvation. One of these days Joseph Smith will come back. Mark my word, and you will see him if you so live to experience it. Go on and live the Gospel to the best of your ability and. see if you don't receive blessings that you can't now conceive of. You will see prophets and prophetesses grow up from these young folks. Mark my word. Don't give up in the fight. Keep humble and weak. Get the spirit of God and Keep it. I say this in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

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My Brothers and sisters, I have been greatly edified, and built up this afternoon through the remarks of our Brother I know that the spirit of God is here and that it has been recorded. In Malachi 3:16 and. 17 we rind: "Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another; and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name. And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. The first day of Christ is not far off. "And the angels shall fly through the midst of heaven, crying with a loud voice, sound the trump of God, saying Prepare ye, prepare ye, O inhabitants of the earth; for the judgment of our God is come. Behold, and Lo, the Bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him". f (D. &. C. 88: 92) And then at that day, before the Son of Man comes, the kingdom of heaven Shall be likened unto ten virgins, who took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise and five of them were foolish. And they that were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them; but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. etc.tt (Matt. 25: 1-6) The time is close at hand. If we don't get it into our systems--the Kingdom of God or nothing--we have got to get that into our systems. If you keep the commandments of God you will not be under any other government than the Kingdom of God. I know this Gospel is true just as well as I know I stand here. I know 'What God is going to have done here. We have men in this group now that all we have to do is say, "Brother we want you to live the united order." Brothers and sisters we have got to get into it.

The time is come when we have got to live every law that has been revealed to the Latter Day Saints through Joseph Smith. I love you people here. I love the Gospel. There are many things that we would like to tell you but you can't stand it. You can't keep your own secrets so you can't receive more. We have got to came out of it. We have got to obey the commandments of God. It is only going to be a short time before God will speak to this nation and send judgments and plagues. How many of us today have got the spirit of God and can keep it around us? You can see it every day. We are told by the prophets of God that it would come and it is upon us. I am thankful for the testimony that I have. Arnold Boss took up a subject this morning, and when he got through I could hardly stand up. When I realize the responsibilities that have been placed upon us men- then I knew why Lewis (Kelsch) was humble. 41

May God's blessings be upon you and may we keep humble and prayerful before God, is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Joseph W. Musser spoke of the testimony of John.

There are 150 people here today; 120 are eligible to be un-churched. Can you think of one word that indicates apostasy here today. Yet that is the charge against this people; and if the spirit that has been here today is the spirit of apostasy, then I recommend that spirit.

Closing Song: "God Be With You".

Benediction: Marcus Wayman.

LJ Allred.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, Dec. 22, 1940, held at home of

Brother Chas. F. Zitting, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.

CHRISTMAS CANTATA

Bm. John Y. Barlow presided.

Brother Joseph W. Musser conducted.

Prayer: Brother G. L. Dockstader.

Tenor Solo: "THE SEAR" by Brother Solomon Denos.

Brother Arnold Boss spoke on the life of the Prophet Joseph Smith. (Assigned)

Brother Joseph W. Musser spoke on the life of the Prophet Joseph Smith and

introduced the Cantata. (Assigned)

Brother Lewis Kelsch spoke on the birth of Jesus Christ. (Assigned)

ST. MATHEW II

VOICE: (Brother Rulon C. Allred)

"Now, as it is written, the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise. After his mother, Mary, was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph, her husband, being a just 42

man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a vision, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife; for that which is conceived in her, is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus; for he shall save his people from their sins.

"Now this took place, that all things might be fulfilled, which were spoken of the Lord, by the prophets, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, (which, being interpreted is, God with us.)

"Then Joseph, awaking out of his vision, did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife and knew her not until she had Brought forth her first born son; and they called his name Jesus."

LUKE II

"And it came to pass in these days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all his empire mould be taxed. This same taxing was when Cyrandus was governor of Syria. And all went to be taxed, everyone in his own city. And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David) to be taxed, with Mary his espoused wife, she being great with child.

"And so it was, that while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

"And she Brought forth her first-born son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger, because there was none to give room for them in the inns. "

CHORUS: OH, LITTLE TOWN OF BETHLHEM

VOICE: And there were in the same country, shepherds abiding in the field keeping watch over their flocks by night. And Lo, an angel of the Lord appeared unto them and the glory of the Lord shone round about them and they were sore afraid. "But the angel said unto them, 'Fear not, for behold, I bring you Good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto 43

you is born this day, in the city of David, a Savior who is Christ the Lord. And this is the way you shall find the babe, he is wrapped in swaddling clothes, and is lying in a manger.

"And suddenly there was with the angel, a multitude of heavenly hosts, praising God and saying, --'Glory to God in the highest; am on earth, peace Good will to men.

CHORUS: "SILENT NIGHT, HOLY NIGHT" "WHEN CHRIST WAS BORN IN BETHELEHEM"

VOICE: And it came to pass, when the angels were gone away from them into heaven the shepherds said one to another, let us now go, even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord has made known unto us." And they came with haste, and found Mary and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.

TRIO: TUNE: "WE EVER PRAY FOR THEE" "WORDS written by Sr. Ethel Boss. Sung by Kathleen Jessop, Katherine Allred, Melba F Allred (May Wayman assist)

VOICE: And when they had seen, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child. All they who heard it, wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds;

"But Mary kept all these things and pondered them in her heart. And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things which they had heard and seen, as they were man manifested unto them."

CHORUS: "OH, COME ALL YE FAITHFUL" "JOY TO THE WORLD"

ST. MAATTHEW

VOICE:

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"Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judea, in the days of Herod, the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem saying, Where is the child that is born, the Messiah of the Jews? Far we have seen his star in the east, and have come to worship him. Then Herod the king had heard of the child, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them saying, Where is the place that is writhen of by the prophets, in which Christ should be born? For he greatly feared, yet he believed not the prophets. " And they said unto him, 'It is written by the prophets, that he should be born in Bethlehem of Judea, for thus have they said, --The word of the Lord came unto us, saying, and thou Bethlehem, which layeth in the land of Judea, in thee shall be born a prince, which art not the least among the princes of Judea; for out of thee shall come the Messiah who shall save my people Israel. "Then Herod, when he had called. the wise men privily, enquired of them diligently at what time the star appeared. And he sent them to Bethlehem, an said, 'Go, and search diligently for the young Child; and when ye have found the child, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also. When they had heard the king, they departed; and Lo, the star which they saw in the east, went before them, until it came and stood over where the young child was when they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.

"And when they were came into the house, they saw the young child, with Mary his Mother, and fell down and worshipped him. And when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts of gold, and frankincense, and myrrh."

"WE KINGS OF ORINT" -Lyman, Jay, Edson Jessop and Marvin Allred.

VOICE: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a child is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulders and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there is no end, upon the throne of David and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from hence forth even forever. The zeal of the Lord of Hosts will perform this."

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CHORUS: "OH, HOLY NICHT"

Brother John Y. Barlow:

My Brothers and Sisters, I hardly know how to express myself. I love this people because I know they are trying to live the laws of God I know that there is no other way to get back into the presence of our Savior and to follow our beloved Prophet Joseph 8mith. I know that the Lord revealed through Joseph Smith the true plan of life and salvation. He gave to us the plan that will get us into and exalt us in the Kingdom of God. He said this is the last dispensation; this is the end. Then when men tell us that it has been done away with, it is impossible to accept them. We as a people have been scoffed at; but has it hurt us any?

"Blessed are ye when men revile ye, etc. ("Mat. 3:13 – Beatitudes) The very fact that they are fighting is the fact that it is the truth and it is producing the right effect. Peter and James were put in jail. It has been so every day of the world. I remember one time a man was debating on the subject-how we are driven out and being persecuted I said everybody but the Mormons will be accepted. Because we are hated proves that we are the chosen people. Every blessing is predicated on a law. This particular law gives eternal increase. The adversary does not care about the rest; if he can stop us from going on. And this law is the law that gives us that, and for that reason Satan is going to fight it. For that reason the Prophet gave his life. I want to bless you in the authority of the Holy Priesthood, which I know I hold, and I say to each and every one of you, it is the end of the year. Brace up Prepare yourselves Get ready, for wonderful and great things are going to happen. We think we have seen troubles and trials, and we have same ahead of us. The Lord made known to me for you people to get the Spirit of God and keep it, to keep you from these things that are coming; to protect you. You don't have to be a prophet to see the wars and destruction that is coming. Wars mean more young men--our boys to go and stand before the canons. I tell you, we need the Spirit of God! We need His blessings to be with us. Let us not be of the world. The Lord says, "If you are of the world, the world will love its own. He that is a friend of the world is an enemy of God. God bless you all, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Joseph W. Musser: We must get the Spirit of the Lord so that the fires

of Hell cannot get us then we can turn the world upside down and bring Celestial 46

Glory into it. And when the house of the Lord is set in order, it will come about by those who hold the Holy Priesthood.

Closing Song: "God. Be With You."

Benediction: Brother Roy Johnson. LJ'Allred.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, Jan. 12, 1941 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided.

Brother Lewis Kelsch. conducted.

First Song: Now Let us Rejoice. Prayer: Lyman Jessop Second Song: God Is Love."

Brother William Thomas:

He bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel and that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God. "I have seen the hand of God manifested both in myself and my family. He told of his daughter who caught her arm in the wringer. Today that daughter is against him in spite of the blessing God bestowed upon her. He hopes that the lord will permit him some time to live the fullness of the Gospel.

Brother Ianthus Barlow:

I am thankful for the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. He spoke of Alma in the Book of Mormon, the four sons of Mosiah and their deliverance, and the deliverance of other men in the Book of Mormon. "That is the kind of men to represent the Kingdom of God. I am very thankful to be numbered among you folks. I pray that the Lord will watch over you and protect you.

Brother John Jimason:

I have at testimony of the work that we are engaged in and thank the Lord that I am counted worthy to associate with you people. I know that this is the work of God and that Joseph is a prophet of God. Behind me (the Priesthood Counsel.)

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are the true servants of the Lord I pray that we all might be faithful in the work that we are called upon to do"

Brother A. N. Pettit: I am glad to be one and I know that this is the work of the

Lord. I have made my covenants with the Lord and I will do my best to keep them. I know we are flowing the Priesthood that the Lord gave us here on earth. I know that the Lord has directed and preserved me until this time.

Brother Lewis Kelsch:

When these brethren stand I know they feel weak and. humble. If you keep your covenants, that weakness will turn into to strength. If you want to be a king or a queen on this earth you must keep the commandments of God and your covenants. You will see kings and princes in God's kingdom. Just keep the covenants you have made with your Father. My mind recalls a statement that my father while on a in Japan-it is no sin to excel in righteousness. You brethren will never fail or sin if you seek to excel in righteousness

Tenor solo: Bm. Solomon Denos, "Holy City".

Brother Fred Jessop: " I still feel my weakness in standing before you. There is

no doubt but that the Lord wants to use me for His purpose. I pray that I may have your faith that the Lord can use me. I feel that our people, the brethren and families down south need me to represent than here today and express their gratitude for the interest you have taken and I am l sure they are grateful for the prayers in behalf of the sick and afflicted among them. The spirit here today is wonderful and how wonderful it would be to feel the same spirit outside our meetings that we feel here. He then spoke of living the united order and said that it will be when we conquer our individual selves. I don't worry about the details if my heart is right from the start. I have a testimony of this work that we are engaged in. The chosen vessels of the Lord are here to teach us.

Brother Morris Kunz:

I am thankful that my grandfather and father accepted and lived the Gospel. "You can't hide your light under a bushel basket", that n:eans that I can't hide my family under a bushel basket. I am proud of my family. I know the Gospel is true and hope to go on and live it better in the future than I have in the past.

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Brother John Y. Barlow:

My Brothers and sisters, I thought perhaps they would let me sit today. I have been interested and built up with the testimonies of these brethrens, humble testimonies that have been Brought forth. Yes, brethren, I know that we are going through some trials. I know it, for the Lord has revealed it to me. I know we are going to be tried, am those who are not humble and prayerful will falter by the way. We are praying day and night that our loved ones, our Brothers and sisters, might see the truth and be among those whom the Lord will recognize and defend. But He has said if we will keep His commandments, He will protect us if He has to send fire down from heaven to do it. But it all lies within ourselves. We are told that in the last days those that will be held in error. The Lord has given this people every law to get into the highest Celestial kingdom of God. Every soul is free to choose his life and what he will be. Keep on the way you are going. Don't try to do some great stunt. If the Devil gets hold of you, tell him to get away, you want to go on. It is the everyday things that builds' us up. Would to ,God that we could feel the spirit of God in our homes everyday as we feel it here in the meetings. Get this elfishness out of our systems and learn to love God and show it by your actions.

God bless you, Amen.

Come, Come Ye Saints.

Bert Barlow: He quoted from the Doctrine and Covenants, Sec. 85;7: "And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand, etc." All those whose names are found writhen in the law book of God. My great worry and burden is to see that my family and children shall see all live these great truths. In the last days we will cry unto the Lord for deliverance of our families from the powers of Satan. We have to have a greater desire to live the truths. Problem in my heart: Getting the desire in the hearts of these young people that they will not turn their hearts away from these men of God and from the truths. "As you sew, so shall you reap."

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

I think the trembling of the knees is an evidence of our nearness to the throne of grace. I remember reading of Brigham Young stating that he never arose before a congregation of the Saints to instruct them but that he trembled. One 49

would not think so in reading his sermons, but that is the true mark of humility. That is the reason we mortals feel to tremble and fear to get up and try to instruct. Yet, with the spirit of the Lord upon us, no matter how illiterate we might be, how poor our language, how shaky our knees, we can move mountains if we want to. I remember that Enoch when he was called by the Lord speak he said, but I am a man slow of speech. But the Lord said, if I made you, can I not make you to speak? Moses was slow of speech but he became the might man of Israel, the warrior of righteousness. That is the condition of the brethren and sisters here. You may be slow of speech, but the truths were taught today, and had we the power and courage and capacity and will to accept and practice them, we would 'then be a mighty people of the earth today. "Came, Come Ye Saints" Why should be mourn or think our lot is hard, etc. It why, our lot isn't hard yet. I don't believe there is a man or woman in this house who is or has been hungry, together without food for many days as the pioneers were crossed the plains. Yet they sang this song. We have been told that we have got to pay our way through this veil of tears and trouble we have got to pay for our reward. Yet all of Israel is coasting down the hill expecting to get into the glories of our Father and not earn their reward. "Gird up your loins, fresh courage take, etc. Last Tuesday night Brother Barlow spoke of our being the best people on the earth today. There is no other people today who can compare with us. I am not speaking of us individually, but I am s peaking of this people that are coming out, that are being cast out as the church is now doing. What are our men going through who have big families to keep up. Gird up your loins, fresh courage take, you Brothers and sisters. We are not Good enough as a people, according to the opportunities that the. Lord has given us, according to the blessings of the Almighty Priesthood that God has given us. Kings and princes, and queens and princesses--those are things assured to us and in the light of those blessings we are not Good enough and I can testify that we are not. We should have no faults and failings; we should have no envy, or feelings against our Brothers and sisters; we should not criticize them unless we have the right to do it. We should not exercise the terrible thing called jealousy towards our sister wives and our brethren. These are all weaknesses and as among us we entertain them we are not half as Good as we ought to be. We will find the place which God prepared for us, etc. --these saints were coming out here to build a kingdom, a government separate and apart from all the governments of the earth, a government of God; and had. they lived those laws and kept those commandments they would have gained their reward. I rejoice in these things; let us take a cue from what has been stated today, and seek to live the Gospel in its entirety; prepare ourselves to live the United Order. I know that if we were told to do it, our knees would shake and tremble at 50

the thoughts of it. How are we going to do it? You are going to do it in your own families. If you can't get love and unity in your own families, then you can't expect the group to live it. We have got to set our houses in order and keep them in order, and those dead limbs that will not give life and seek the sap of truth and righteousness, cannot be kept with the live tree. If we do that we will begin to prosper. May God bless you, Amen.

Closing Song: "God Be With You.! Benediction: Brother Marion Hammon.

LJAllred.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, Jan. 26, 1941 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.

First Song: "Let Us All Press On. Prayer: Brother Virgil Jessop. Second Song: "Think Gently of the Erring One" by the chorus.

Brother Cleveland from Idaho bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of

the fullness of the Gospel.

Brother Lawrence Stubbs from Short Creek spoke of the spiritual feast he

had been having, the organization of the earth and its mysteries and referred to D. & C. Sec. 93;33, "For man is spirit. The elements are eternal, and spirit and element, inseparably connected, receive a fullness of joy." He said he was thankful for the privilege of having been Brought to this Counsel and this people.

Trio: "Prayer Perfect" by Myrtle, Athlene and Leona Allred.

Brother Owen Allred: Spoke of the presence and nearness of the ones beyond

the veil during the Sunday school this morning and said he had never experienced anything so spiritual before in his life. He said he was beginning to know how to pray and. bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the fullness of the Gospel.

Moroni Jessop spoke next and said he believed everything that the Lord revealed to Joseph Smith and that the Priesthood Counsel were the right men in their right places today. 51

Brother Roy Johnson spoke next and said he has been thinking of the

Sunday School lesson this morning in Which it was spoken concerning the storing or food for famine. He bore his testimony that the Gospel is true and that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and that we have men today who have been called through the proper channels.

Brother Rulon C. Allred: Brothers and sisters, I have heard a lot of the

Brothers say they knew they would be called upon. This is one time men I did. not think I would be. I was very grateful to hear the remarks made by my Brother Owen. There is a little message that I feel I can give to you saints today and which I received during Sunday School this morning. The spirit of God. was there, and the veil was thin between us. If our eyes had been open and our hearts a little more pure, we would have seen those on the other side. I did have an experience that was revealed to me this morning. In the D. & C. we are told the gift of God is given to men that all might be perfected thereby. Unto some is given the gift of healing, to others the gift of prophecy. I have always known that the Lord is my Savior. Many times I have contemplated the sacrifice He made for us that we might live. I pray that I might live a better life. This morning I envisioned the Savior in the Garden of Gethsemane kneeling in prayer with drops of blood on His forehead, the apostles too sleepy to give him their spiritual comfort. I saw Him as the Jews placed upon his Brow a wreath of thorns and a purple robe. I saw him. before Pilate, the Jews crying out for His blood--the Jews whom He healed, healing their sick and raising their dead from their graves. I saw Pilate, though he had power to save Christ he did as the people demanded. I saw Christ as they compelled Him to carry a cross with a beam that was so heavy that few with normal strength to carry it could--He drawing it up the hill. Even the apostles did not stand by Him during that hour of trial The Lord was placed upon His own responsibility and He bore it the rest of the way up the hill. He was nailed to the cross with nails through the palms of His hands and when they dropped the cross into the hole the nails tore loose and then they lowered the cross again. They climbed up and drove nails through His wrists so He would hang there. So great was the physical and spiritual anguish that He bore that he died long before ordinary men would have. He had a sword driven through his side to see if He was dead. They pierced His body and let the blood and water run from it. Thank God we can see the Christ died for the saving of the world. God sanctify us and bless us that we may draw close to Him and. sanctify our lives I pray in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.

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Brother Joseph W. Musser:

We have had much to contemplate and reflect upon today. It has been a day of feasting so far as my experience has gone and a day in which I feel that this group of people has approached nearer to the throne of grace perhaps than they have ever been before. There are 130 grown people here and 145 in Sunday School this morning. I was moved in my feelings and emotions and was lead to make the remarks that the veil was so thin that we could almost look thru it- -the veil between the Priesthood on the other side and the Priesthood and the saints on this side. Now we are making progress, my Brothers and sisters. This is a day in which the prophesies of ancient prophets are being fulfilled. Everyday sees that fulfillment. I have been reflecting on the statement of our Lord and Savior with reference to this group of people as though He might have been in our midst. "Blessed are ye when men shall hate you," (A large part of this congregation, here today, are hated by your own people. I have heard expressions repeated to me wherein the spirit of murder has been in their hearts.) "and when they shall separate you from among them, It (Recently a paper published by the Presiding Bishop contained our names as separated from the church.) "and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of Man's sake." (Luke 6: 22) They have attempted to blot out our names from the Lambs Book of Life. Thank God they have no jurisdiction that and they will remain their unless we commit the unpardonable sin. There couldn't be a more literal prophecy fulfilled than that,--not to let us attend meeting s, not allow us a voice in the church, etc. But what is our position in the matter? "Rejoice, ye in that day, and leap for joy; for behold your reward shall be great in heaven, for in the like manner d:id their fathers unto the prophets." (Luke 6: 23) Now if Joseph or the Savior were to come here today, or an angel were to appear here today with a message or invitation to this group, what would we do? Why we would leap for joy, rejoice exceedingly. So were the prophets of old treated from the days of Adam, so have the prophets been treated. The Sanhedrin, the High Priests, those in that day, were the ones to crucify Christ. It wasn't Romans. It was the church. It is the Church today that is separating us and casting us out and trying to cause us to lose our work, trying to starve us to death. They have advised the bishops not to let our people get any relief. We should leap for joy. Suppose we do lose our lives or starve to death. We are no better than the Savior or Joseph. I am no better than my father. There is no reason why I should not go to jail if the Lord wants me to. (Reading from "Prophecies of Orson Pratt", Truth Magazine, January 1940, Prophecy of October 24,1857 in England) "If you will not, as a nation, repent, and unite your selves with God's Kingdom, then the days are near at hand, when the righteous shall be gathered out 53

of your midst; and woe unto you when that day shall come for it shall be a day of vengeance upon the British Nation; your armies shall perish; your marine forces shall cease; your cities shall be ravaged, burned, and made desolate, and your strongholds shall be thrown down; (What is being done in England now? The marines are being sent down to the bottom of the sea; their armies are perishing; their cities are being burned and made desolate. The following is what is going to happen.) "the poor shall rise against the rich, and their storehouses and the fine mansions shall be pillaged, their merchandise, and their gold, and their silver] and their rich treasures, shall be plundered; then shall the Lords, and the Nobles, and the merchants of the land, and all in high places, be Brought down, and shall sit in the dust, and howl for the miseries that ::hall be upon than; and they that trade by the sea shall lament and mourn; for their traffic shall cease. And thus shall the Lord Almighty visit you, because of your great wickedness in rejecting His servants and His Kingdom; and if you continue to harden your hearts, your remnants which shall be left, shall be consumed as the dry stubble before the devouring flame, and all the land shall be cleansed by the Fire of the Lord, that the filthiness thereof may no more come up before Him. "Your armies in India have already been smitten with a sore judgment, because they cast out the Lord's servant s who were sent to warn them and to prophesy to them; they were rejected by your missionaries and your officers; and being without purse or scrip, they had nowhere to lay their heads. But they were faithful in delivering their Warning Messages. I read this to show how completely prophesies are being fulfilled. What about our own country? (Prophecy of Orson Pratt, March 9, 1879 in England, Truth :Mag. January 1940.) "What about my own nation--the American nation? Do you wish me to describe this 'War that will come upon tm American nation? It will be a war of neighborhood against neighborhood, city against City, town against town, county against county, state against state, and they will go forth destroying and being destroyed and manufacturing in a great measure will cease, for a time among the American nation. What will become of millions of the farmers upon that land? They will leave their farms and they will remain uncultivated, and they will flee before the ravaging armies from place to place; and thus will they go forth burning and pillaging the whole country; and that great and powerful nation now consisting of some forty millions of people, will be wasted away, unless they repent. You will see my wards fulfilled to the very letter." America is more wicked than men those prophecies were uttered. We are expecting a great famine to come. The time will come men the land will not yield at all; the land will be pillaged and especially in the large centers. Only the righteous and those who are trying to serve the Lord will be permitted to live. And because of that, we will have many people came to the Rockies. In those times we 54

will not be wasting food and we will eat sparingly. A few thousand of our people Will organize to help this work; and Joseph is going to come to engineer this work. When the enemies come here, the Priesthood will drive them back. Just like Enoch and Moses commanded the elements, so will it be. You will find Brother Barlow and his associates forming prayer circles with those who have been selected for that purpose and "they will stand guard of this mountain country and the enemy will not be able to penetrate it. But before that time comes this country is going to be cleaned up. Before that time the righteous will go into the temple. My brethren and sisters, it is a terrible situation that the people have gotten into President Smith said there would not be a family that would not be affected or touched. He means birth control which means death to the world. Exaltation means life. We have got to bring forth life just as some of you Good women are doing today. Many times the finger of scorn is pointed upon us for bringing forth life and building up our children for the kingdoms --kingdoms to the glory of our Father in Heaven. That terrible practice of teaching birth control is death and it is an insidious poison and every family is going to be touched. Let us take courage. This is a day of battle; we can't stand still; we can't stand on both sides of the line. The time has come when we cannot play with fire. We have got to stand firm and meet death if it comes like men and women; meet all kinds of distress that will come upon us. And the Lord will watch over us and will not forsake us. I promise you in the name of the Lord, all of this. May the Lord bless us is my prayer in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

I want to bear my testimony of what we have heard this afternoon. There is a train going by and we can take a Telestial glory and pay the price, of a Terrestrial glory and pay the price, or we can take a Celestial train and pay price. God bless you, Amen.

Closing Song: "Nearer My God to Thee".

Benediction: Brother Chas. Zitting.

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2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided.

Brother Charles F. Zitting conducted.

First Song: "Come, Come Ye Saints." Prayer: Brother J. Holliday. Second Song: "'Now Let Us Rejoice."

Brother Rulon T. Jeffs:

My Brothers and sisters, I feel Good in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I never felt more humble in my life, that I had more to be grateful for. I never felt better toward my Brothers and sisters in this great and glorious work. As I have been lead to testify to some of my friends and relatives of late, I have came to know the love of brethren for the first time in my life; I have came to say I would die for my brethren in the Priesthood. For the first time I say I would put Gods work before anything else in life. This people is being prepared; I know that as well as I know I live. (Related his experience with the plaintiff attorney and the prayers of the brethren being answered.) I know that the Lord will continue to bless me and all of us who remain faithful. in this work. I know where I am and where I am going.

May the Lord help us always.

Brother Axel Fors spoke next saying that we as a people are charged with

apostasy from the Church yet we believe all the doctrines revealed to us by Joseph Smith, we believe in plurality of wives. Adam is our Father and our God.

President Grant said, "We were known as a polygamous people, but now we are a

clean living people. May God bless us.

Brother Fred Morrison told of how humble he felt and hoped to say something of

enlightenment. He related an experience that he had while in the mission field, they told the missionaries to memorize their speeches to make friends with the world, (a lady 80 years old shook her head and said to the mission president, "Don't you know that when we become friends with the world we become enemies of God?" The president replied, "I am running the church here in Sweden.") etc. He told of a young man to whom he wrote concerning plural marriage. Then he bore his testimony saying that he knows this to be the work of God.

Sister Roy Johnson expressed her gratitude for the privilege of meeting with

the Saint here and hearing the testimonies, and to be counted one of the group; far the Gospel and what it means to her.

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Song: "I Know That My Redeemer Lives," by the chorus.

Brother Charles. F. Zitting:

I would like to say a few words. The world is very much concerned as to whether the land in the future will be controlled. by the colored races or by the white people. You all know that when it comes to the Japanese, Chinese, Negros or others till they are increasing very rapidly. They are fast growing all over the world. On our trip East we noticed how many colored people there were in the Eastern states, and the world is becoming very worried about it. On the morning of my trial, in the Tribune it said that the American people were not repopulating themselves. In other worlds there must be at least two children born to each couple in the U. S. The average now is one and three quarters children to the family. In the other nations war is killing off the youth. The dictators and Hitler himself considered plural marriage. But they are going into it differently. Any woman who wants to have children just has to make it known to a man. It is adultery, bring a corruption. Where a man is going to have a responsibility of raising more than one family, he must take the responsibility of taking and raising those families. "This is the law "Wherein I glorify myself". If The law of plural marriage is just that. We must live the law to become Gods ourselves. Divorce is almost a joke among our people. In the law of Celest:ial marriage a man must put his lands, his wives, his children, his own life, if necessary, on the altar of sacrifice. Are our people, is our g:roup, really getting some place? I have been working in the land offices of the State. I notice in those offices anywhere from ten to twenty-five old maids. The church makes old maids. They don't believe in the fullness of the Gospel as revealed by the Prophet Joseph Smith. I started to figure out in our own group, there are no old maids unless we count some girls twenty years old. If this world is not going to be ruled by the colored races, we must stop practicing birth control. President Grant said (of the polygamists), "You can judge these people by their fruits. May God bless us and show us to the world that this is the only way out from a scientific and a religious standpoint. May God bless us that we will go on, far I know we are headed in the right direction. I know that the day is coming when the Lord ,will be at the head of His people and He will place those men in charge who are willing to believe in and live His commandments. May the Lord bless us, I ask in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen. 57

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

Brother Charles is quite a statistician. He has all your numbers and he is just

the fellow to find out. The last meeting we had 130 adults, and we have 140 adults in attendance this time. As said in our Tuesday meeting, when we are strong enough and our faith is diligent enough and we warrant it, the tabernacle will be available for us. I take it the Lord means what he says. When He gives a revelation He gives it in such clearness of thought and language that the Saints understand it. Sometimes because of the tenseness of our own minds we cannot understand the meaning of what He says through His prophets. We have been told today of the fullness of the Gospel. It was stated that after the last war there were 200,000,000 woman who never hoped to marry because of the shortness of the men. Of course that spells a great problem. We know what the mission of womanhood is, as well as of the men. The first great commandment is "to multiply and replenish the earth. The earth has been emptied and now we must refill the earth. The first instructions to woman is to bring forth children. Every normal female of the animal family, as well as the human family, is guided by the ideology of motherhood. why is it natural? Because God placed that in the female nature. In the male nature, when the nature is normal, is fatherhood; so that parenthood is the great issue of the day. Brigham Young made is clear for us to prepare physical bodies for all the spirits we can, that they shall have the privilege of coming through a pure channel to give them an opportunity to carry out their missions which they came here to accomplish. That is the mission of you brethren and sisters today. It is to multiply and replenish and build up and excel in bringing of lives into the world. Thank God the people in this congregation, with few exceptions, believe that doctrine. And there are none that doeth Good except those who are ready to receive the fullness of my gospel, which I have sent forth unto this generation. Wherefore, I call upon the weak things of the world, those who are unlearned and despised, to thrash the nations by the power of my Spirit; And their arm shall be my arm and I will be their shield and their buckler; and I will gird up their loins, and they shall fight manfully for me and their enemies shall be under the their feet, and I will let fall the Sword in their behalf, and by the fire of mine indignation will I preserve them. (D. & C. 35:12-14) There are 700,000 members of the church today. Over 500 people are in this group who believe in the fullness of the Gospel. "There is none Good, except those who believe in and 58

accept my Gospel. Christ once said, "Why call me Good; there are none Good except God the Father." Therefore why call ourselves Good, unless we are prepared to receive and do accept as fast as possible the fullness of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. There are many who have not apostatized from the church because they have not been taught the fullness of the Gospel. Brother Fors gave the proper definition of apostasy. We are said to be apostates because we live that which we believe and love God to whom we owe allegiance. If we departed from that which we believe we would be apostates. The greater the light you have, the greater the darkness you receive when you leave it. The people of the church are not out in the open. They are filled with darkness. They glory in darkness and in that darkness they are on their way to destruction. But you Brothers and sisters are not apostates; you stand upon the pinnacle of obedience and faith through which God has given you. You are standing at the head and you are not in the foot of the class in spite of what the brethren in the church say and do. We are taking a course that leads to light and life instead of darkness and death. That is what the Lord meant when He said. "And their arm shall be my arm, and I will be their shield and their butler; and I will gird up their loins, and they shall fight manfully for me, etc." We are the strength of God the Eternal Father. He is using us as His sword of righteousness to convict the world, as witnesses to bind up the law and seal up the testimony and to bring the world in that condition when they shall not have any excuse for not having accepted the truth. That is the duty and the program of this people in this house today.

We have at least two men who made a trip of 700 miles to be here with us today. We have the brethren from Millville. We might say we have saints from Germany, England, Sweden, etc. They came for that which this meeting is representing and for which it stands. They came to be here and to mingle their spirits with the spirits we have here today. The Lord said, I will make you a strong and a choice people, a strong people unto me. if The effort of the church today are to make us not a strong people but like the world, that we might have greater influence with them. By leaving off our garments of the Priesthood we can mingle with them and partake of the sins they are partaking of. The Lord said we are to be a strong and pure people unto the world; to establish in the world the principles of truth and righteousness. The world is going to be depopulated almost entirely. Still there is a pure and choice people that will start the work anew. They are the seed of Abraham, for we become the seed of Abraham women we accept the things that Abraham lived and offered the life of his son for. We will have peace upon the earth. This war is a war of purification. The best way to get rid of filth is to burn it. This world is going through the process of fire; it is just beginning to feel warm 59

in the nations of the earth. The time is not long, it is coming in our life time here today, When the old world will be in flame and the only thing that will save the world is the faithful Latter Day Saints Such as are here in this house today, this group; from the seeds of this people, the initial part of' the glorious Millennial. population will come that will turn the Devil out of his home and tie him up for at least 1000 years. Does it matter if some of us have to give our lives for it, that we may multiply and replenish the earth." God bless you, .Amen.

Closing Song: "True to the Faith."

Benediction:

LJ.Allred

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, Feb.-23, 1941 2: 00 p.m.

Brother J. Y. Barlow presided, and conducted.

First Song: "For the Strength of the Hills." Prayer: Bm. Jos. Jessop. Second Song: "Though Deepening Trials" ,by the chorus.

_Brother Father Carl Holm bore his testimony stating that he had belonged to two different denominations, and when he heard of this Gospel it seemed that he was hungering for it. He accepted it when he was 19 years of age and assisted missionaries who came from Utah, and later saved enough to immigrate to Zion and settled in Snake River valley. He thanked God for his testimony of the Gospel, the fullness of the Gospel, and hoped that he could be more Good in it, and be more humble drawing near the Lord.

Brother Eslie Jensen

spoke next and remarked how the group was growing, of the Truth Magazine and how it was inspired, and bore his testimony saying how the Lord hears and answers prayers, how He has protect him from the things of the things of the world. we don't know what is in the future for us. I am sure what we have in troubles now amount to nothing. We have homes and shelter and peace, but what will we do in the future when we are scattered. Have we got our feet on the ground. so that no matter what comes we will stick to the truth? Have we, each one, got a 60

testimony sufficient to follow the promptings of the spirit so that we can discern whether it is the spirit of the Lord? The Devil will have great power and he will make it look like his power is right. There is only one way to know and that is to know, from our Heavenly Father. "Cursed is he who putheth his trust in man and maketh flesh his arm." We have men before us who direct us. I love these brethren. Let us uphold them.

Brother Marvin Allred:

He bore his testimony as to the truth fullness of the Gospel which he said came to him recently, said he was thankful to be among such wonderful people and for such a wonderful father and mother who have instructed him in the Gospel and things of life.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

There are a few things, Brothers and sisters, that I would like to say. Concerning "putting your trust in the arm of flesh" we have a guide, a very fine guide. That is this: He who speaks not according to the law and the testimony, is because there is no light in him. (Isaiah 8:20) "To the law and the testimony; and if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Recently I had a chance to talk with a party who had revelations. He had laid down and fished for it, but not according to the law and the testimony. I want you people to know this:

Joseph Smith's was given to him from the keys of the Kingdom. No one could take them from him in this world nor in the world to come. When you get the truth it Will come down through the Prophet Joseph Smith who holds the keys of this Kingdom of God in this dispensation. If we speak not according to the law and the testimony and teach you anything that is not according to the law and the testimony, you have a right to tell us so. I have had occasion to see how many of you are paying up and keeping this magazine, The Truth. How many are paying their dues? We think the fullness of the Gospel is hard to live. Let me tell you if the laws that are up before the legislature go through, you will find this law really hard to live. Every Wife, every expectant mother has got to go up before a medical man and tell who her husband is, who is the father of her child. I know we are going to get around it, but we don't know yet how. The devil is work1ng hard but we will go on. You are a people that is the nucleus out of the people. A short time ago I told you to get the spirit of God and keep it around you. I want to say to the Saints again, pray to the Lord; study and prepare; learn of these things. We have got to go on our own individual selves. You have got to know for 61

yourselves whether the Gospel is true. I don't wish any of you to hang on to me. My coat tail is very rotten. I have got all I can do to keep going. I know the Gospel is true and. I know what of I am talking and where we are going. Every man in "this house can go before God and get the same testimony. God's Work is going on. "The arm of the Lord shall be revealed; and the day cometh That they who will not hear the voice of the Lord, neither the voice of his servants, neither give heed to the words of the prophets and apostles, shall be cut off from among the people; For they have strayed from mine ordinances, and have Broken mine everlasting Covenant; They seek not the Lord to establish his righteousness, but every man walketh in his own way, and after the image of his own God, "Whose image is in the likeness of "the world, and whose substance is that of an idol, which waxeth old and shall perish in Babylon, even Babylon the great, which shall fall. etc."(D. & C. 1:14-16 What is the voice of the Lord? Why do you justify Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? The Lord said (to Joseph Smith), "I will answer thee as touching this matter, etc." (D. & C. Sec. 132)

President Smith said: "The only people who would be exalted are the people

who live the Celestial Law." God gave us a law whereby we can have our families joined together. The U. S. came along and said you will be damned if you live it, and God said you will be damned if you don't live. Any man or any nation who fights this law will be damned.

President Grant is making the church popular but the prophets of God say:

"If you are a friend of the world you are an enemy of God. These prophets looking down said they knew what was going to happen. They said there will be a people who would come out of this people who would be the nucleus. I want you to think over what I said about the Truth. There are some people in Canada. Brother Ayres boy is very ill and wants our faith and prayers. They are going to move from Canada. They are going to be lead by a Brother Smith, a grandson of Hyrum. Smith and are going to cut him off.

God bless you Amen. Song: "Oh It is Wonderful" , congregation.

Brother Edmund Barlow

spoke next on the plan of salvation and the molding of spirits into perfected beings, immortal and spiritual beings. He bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel.

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

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I am mighty glad to see Sister Olive (Kunz) with us again. It is a miracle how she has been healed thus far. Sister Moleta Jessop I can remember not long ago was practically given up for death and I met her on the street running around like a March hare. Sister Clara Kunz was in the hospital and she is here today.

Sister Esther Barlow was at death's door and is now up and around. I think we

should all rejoice in the blessings that the Lord is giving us. We are not doing much for the hospitals and the M.D.'s. If they had to live on what we are paying, they would have a hard time getting through. We are depending almost entirely on the Great Physician and He is not failing us and He will not fail us if we put our trust in Him. I have been impressed, with the remarks of the different brethren thus far. If we would take these things and remember them and conform our lives "to them, what a wonderful change it would make in us.

Brother Barlow's remarks about the Prophet Joseph Smith are very timely. It

wasn't very long ago that someone in the tabernacle said that Brother Grant was the greatest prophet of God. We have people all over the country who are usurping the rights of the Prophet Joseph. It is our work to defend the Prophet Joseph Smith and to carry on the work that he gave us. Some brethren. are trying to subordinate the Lamanites in South America as the ones who have the keys of the Priesthood and will be the people that will be raised up. We are told by our Lord and Savior that there would be a time when people would say, "Lo, the Lord is here!" but to study the scriptures. There are many Christ's and many prophets in this day and age. Some say they are different kinds of angels. Lorin Woolley told us of a man who said an angel revealed something to him. Lorin said, "Why didn't that damn fool angel tell me about it? 40,000 men hold the Priesthood. I said in my minds eye, I see 40 ,000,000 angels of the Devil trying to destroy the people and. lead than astray. That is the difference between the ones who hold the Priesthood and those who would like to hold it. Sometimes we run before we are sent and often times it comes from another source. We have men and women who are writing books. When people are writing books without the help of the Priesthood Counsel we are apt to be lead astray in reading them. We do not want to curtail anyone's rights unless the Lord tells us to do so. We don't want to nullify the freedom that belongs to them. In this house we don't all see alike. We all may feel the spirit of the Lord, but we may all not see alike. That is no sin; we are not all alike. Often times we do make mistakes in doctrine. Any doctrine that does not come from the Lord is a false one without the revelations of the Lord it can't help but be false. Example of Nephi in talking to the Lord was given wonderful vision.

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The white and delightsome people that would come. (from Joseph?) Lehi telling his son Joseph of the restoration of the Gospel and a Seer who would be raised up, of his loins; a Moses to deliver Israel. ( 2 Nephi, B. of M. Chapter 3) It is plainly outlined here in these revelations, yet some of us get the idea that that Joseph is a future Lamanite prophet who is going to appear on the scene. Well, says one, aren't the Lamanites going to do a great work? Of course they are. Yes they are going to bring forth much restoration, but not the fullness of the restoration. Of course, the Nephites and Lamanites will have their prophets. There has been prophets always on the earth. But the one prophet, the mouth piece of God who will stand at the head of this dispensation cannot be replaced on this earth for upon him rests the responsibility of this dispensation. Those keys are still on the earth and will continue to be on "the earth until the reign of Christ upon the earth. Elias Brought the keys at restoration and gave to Joseph Smith; then Elijah came and bestowed upon him the keys of "turning the hearts of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to the fathers." The mission of Elijah to seal on earth. We hear people say, "The keys of the Priesthood are in the South. "There are many keys. The master key was held by Joseph. (Illustration of a master key of a hotel and "the other keys held by the guests.) Joseph holds the master key, except as he delegates it to those on earth whom he has set apart to carry on his work on the earth. It is the key to the United Order, etc. But there is one key that is held by the Priesthood on the earth.

Speaking of the Gentiles, many get the idea that they are going to be the servants of the Lamanites. They will help the Lamanites receive their ordinances. We are the children of Israel gathered from out of the world. Some of us have the blood of the Gentiles. We are not purely the offspring of the children of Israel. We are all of Jacob. The Lord tells the Gentiles what will become of them if they don't repent.

Read 3 Nephi, Chap. 21.

"And they shall assist my people, the remnant of Jacob, and also as many of the house of Israel as shall come, that they may build a city, which shall be called the New Jerusalem." (3 Nephi Ch. 21:23)

Reference --Heber C. Kimball, Truth Mag., Vol. 6; #1 --"Lineage of Jesus Christ, page 8.

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Those who hold the keys in this Priesthood are men of God and are not subservient to the Lamanites. We are of Ephraim, those who are in this house today. Ephraim was at the head of the Patriarchal Order, and Judah was at the head of the military organization. Lorin told us that we will not have to fight the battles any longer, but the Ten Tribes are the ones who will fight your battles. Those holding the Priesthood have other work to do. Their work is along patriarchal lines and setting the house of God in order. Judah will come to receive their blessings at the hands of Ephraim. And men the Lamanites come to help build the temple, they will bring their gold, precious stones, man power and woman power.

Of course, we will help the Lamanites and direct them in the work of building the temples. The church is not the Priesthood. I want to protest with all the zeal and power that I have and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, against subordinating Joseph Smith, that great and glorious prophet Joseph is a God, one of the trinity of this planet. Don't you understand? His own people didn't know that, far they would not have killed him had they known. He is a God in the trinity of this earth. He is going to wind up all things and will take his place with Adam our God. It is your mission to be like him. It is your mission to do what Brother John says, get the spirit of God and stop being deceived. Why should we pin our faith to a Nephite person miles away, whom we have never seen, never heard from, know nothing about. No one has seen him, this mythical man; yet I know there are many men who are functioning in the Gospel there. There will be a nation born in a day and its people will come up here, and they will receive the blessings of Brother Barlow in the Counsel. If he happens to die in the meantime, there will be others who will administer the rights of the Priesthood. I hope I haven't offended anyone here. May the Lord bless you, .Amen.

Song: By the chorus, "Jesus I My Cross Have Taken."

Benediction: Brother Marion Hammon.

LJAllred

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at 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided.

Brother Joseph W. Musser. conducted.

First Song: "O Say What Is Truth." Prayer: Brother Mohler Second Song: Quartet (John Denos, Bill , Solomon Denos "The Beautiful Country"

Brother Don Wayman: Bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel,

that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God and that the Priesthood here is engaged in God's work.

Brother Edson Jessop: Bore his testimony and said how thankful he was for his

parents, for the privilege of being one of this group of people, and said how merciful God is.

Brother D. W. Jeffs:

Brother and Sisters, "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh."

These two young men have spoken, and though brief it comes from the heart. The presiding brethren often. call upon us to see what is in our hearts. There have been some things come to try my soul the past few weeks. I desire an interest in your faith and prayers that I might be guided by the spirit of God in what I say, whether brief or otherwise There have been many witness and testimonies in my soul. One of the features I went to refer to is one verse of one of our sacred hymns. When we go through trials and troubles abundantly is when we accept and try to live the fullness of the Gospel--the power of darkness tries to overcome us. (How Firm a Foundation) "When thro' the deep waters I call thee to go, The rivers of sorrow shall not thee overflow, For I will be with thee, thy troubles to bless, and Sanctify to thee, thy deepest distress." How true of the characteristics of our lives. The Lord will protect every individual if he will just have that faith in God and repent with a contritious soul. How often a word dropped by a Good sister or Brother may try our souls. How often we must go before God and ask Him. to guide our hearts that we may not go astray. There are many people mo go on assumption. (Referred to semen given by Brother Barlow (J".Y.) about the train--Telestial, Terrestrial and Celestial trains and the price we must pay for each) We cannot speak without reflection on some individual. A darky preacher once said there are eleven commandments, the eleventh being "Mind your own business" If only we could be one--one in spirit and truth that we could be

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endowed with the spirit of the Holy Ghost. How often I think how far I have fallen in having the Holy Ghost to be my constant commandment. Judge not unrighteously, for they that judge unrighteously condemn themselves. If we kept the commandments we should have the pure love of God in our hearts, which. is charity--faith, hope and charity, and the greatest of these is charity. There is another thought pertaining to this group of brethren and sisters. It is said that some people come among us and get a little information about us and then talk about us. "Blessed are ye when men Shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from among them, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of Man's sake." (Luke 6:22) The church has a publication "The Progress of the Church" in which they have listed our names as being excommunicated. They have cast some of us out. There are thousands in the Church, thousands of men and women who could, if they understood, who would grasp the truth. The conditions with which they are associated prevent them from leaving it. The greatest fault and trouble is among our own selves, yet we permit ourselves to say things against one another. "Blessed are the meek; for they shall inherit the earth." Who are the meek? It isn't the individual who dare not stand up for the truth. The people must be taught to get the spirit of God for you cannot build up the Kingdom of God without it. It is necessary to get the spirit of God in humility. When you are going through trials you are against the opposite power. You find the power of the Devil in the very courts and judges of this State. It isn't the great things that give us joy in life, it is the everyday little things of life. "The sum of human happiness is made up of numberless little things. It is not the great things--great presents, great occasions or great demonstrations of any kind which will make you happy,--but the many thoughtful courtesies and surprises of affection, tender looks, kind words, gentle ways and profound respects of true love—it is these little things, which, falling drop by drop like spring showers upon the frozen earth, melt away all that is cold and hard in our natures, and make them bud and bloom with full luxuriance" "Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not; for of such is the Kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, Whosoever 'Will not receive the kingdom of God as a little Child, shall in no wise enter therein. (Luke 18:16-17) While on a mission we elders were instructed not to teach plural marriage, but to defend it. Four of us elders held a meeting in a court house. There were seven ministers who came to pin us down until we were weak. One minister asked a question about polygamy. We answered that the church was not instructing us to 67

preach or teach plural marriage today. He insisted on hearing more about it, and questioned us further. So we bore our testimonies on it and so powerful was the spirit of the Lord, as each of us bore our testimonies as to the truthfulness of the law of plural marriage, and so powerful our testimonies, that the building rocked. The ministers were so frightened that they crawled out of the building on their hands and knees. I, know the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is true and I know it because the power of salvation unto us if we will live it and do it with earnestness. Orson F. Whitney once had a vivid dream or vision in which he spent some time with the Savior, talking with him. So wonderful was His presence and the spirit out to Him that surrounded Him that Brother Whitney reached out to him and asked if when he died he could come and be with Him. The Savior answered, "It all depends upon you yourself." As sure as God lives, the time is not far distant when same in this room will, if they live worthily, witness the Son of God. I say this in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.

Sister Susie Barlow:

My dear Brothers and sisters, while I stand before you in fear and trembling, I do appreciate the privilege of coming before you and bearing my testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel. I certainly am pleased to see so many here and so many new faces. I take it for granted that anyone who has a desire to meet with this group of people is interested in the fullness of the Gospel, for that is what we are striving for and trying to live. I am thankful to be numbered among such a group of people, to know that there are those on the earth among the Latter Day Saints who have the faith to stand for this principle; and you have to give up every worldly idea and thought that you had to live by faith. I have often thought of the sentence in the Lord's prayer: "Give us this day our daily" bread." I have wondered if the day would come when we would say this and really mean it. In reading the sermons of Brigham Young I came across this, "I will prepare my ground and plant the best seed I can, and if the Lord will not see fit to give me a Good harvest, then I know the Lord will came to our rescue." My testimony to you is this day that the Lord doe hear and answer our prayers and that He will be mindful of us if we are mindful of him, and he Will carry us through our trials. I pray that the Lord will bless us that we may come to a perfect unity of the faith, that our labors will become united in the purpose of building up "the Kingdom of God. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

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Brother Chase F. Zitting:

We came here to worship; some worship by talk, some by singing and some by beautiful thoughts. I know I can do it whether by thinking. I am glad to be here with you and worship with you. I received a picture this morning from some of the saints of New York who will be among us before very long. I feel happy to see our group growing now. In Good weather we are tempted to stay away from these meetings and do other things. I want to make you a promise that if you will come to worship on Sundays instead of going on automobile rides, that when the autumn comes you will be happier. You must prepare for the judgments that are coming over this continent. The judgments of God ere coming. The Priesthood has been praying that the wicked shall clean the wicked from the earth, that we could raise our children in a land that is cleansed. This land must be cleansed for it is the Land of Joseph. What is meant by that? The Lord said that the land will be taken from the Gentiles and given to the people of Israel. Jacob was the father of Joseph. Ephraim and Manasseh received their blessings from Joseph. Ephraim received the greater blessing of the two Ephraim is over Manasseh not only in Priesthood, but in blessings. Our brethren, the Indians, were driven from pillar to post, not by the blood of Joseph, but by the blood of the Gentiles. That same blood is driving us from the church today. The day will come when we, with the Indian people, will inherit this land, because we are of Joseph. The Lord promised that a few of the faithful Gentiles would unite with this people. We are of Joseph through Ephraim the Indians are of Joseph through Manasseh. The Priesthood is on earth today to give you the higher blessings. Do you know where to go to receive these blessings? I know of only one place. It takes a High Priest Apostle who is ordained through God. to perform these duties. There are others who work under the High Priest Apostle to help with the work. If we can receive all the blessings of the Gospel without that higher authority, then why the higher authority? The Lord places it here for a purpose. You cannot receive your higher blessings without it. I remember Brother Lorin (Woolley) in conferring the Priesthood upon us said, "I confer upon you all the keys , power and authority that I now myself hold. Brethren, you hold the same keys, power and authority that I myself hold and there is no other power of authority on earth, but I am your senior because I have been in this longer than you have. President Taylor said that when he conferred the keys upon us in the same manner." (p. 515,Historical Records) The same words were used to set President Taylor apart, and others before him received it the same way. The senior presides but they all hold the same power and authority.

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We make the same mistake in our homes we think that the first wife is ahead of the others. The other wives can become queens, Godesses just as much as the first wife. I will be surprised if the first wife is the first in the Kingdom of God. They are first wife in this order only when the husband is not there presiding only. It is a matter of order to keep order. In no other way is the first wife any better than the second, third, etc. We must get that in mind. God wouldn't be a just God if He considered the first such. If you work for your salvation here upon the earth, you can get what any other woman or man can get. We want to stick to the Iron Rod. We must not become so much in love with our own opinions than we are with the love of truth. Before this world ends all truth will stand out ahead of anything else. May God bless you; stick to the truth and the revelations of God. Even if an angel should come to you and he doesn't speak according to the law and. the testimony, you don't have to take it. Let us not get off on a tangent. Stick to the law and the testimony. If we do that we will be happy in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Everything that the Prophet Joseph bas revealed is true. That is my testimony in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

My Brothers and sisters, I can say that I am glad to be with you. While I can say with Brother Charles that he is right, some things he misunderstood a little bit. I know the Gospel is true. I know these brethren (in the Counsel) were called of God as was Aaron through a prophet of God and I know that their work will go on. I know we can live the Gospel as it is laid down. Whenever man turns from the Gospel plan as it was laid down by the Prophet Joseph Smith, he is on the wrong road. The keys that Joseph laid down will get us through the highest kingdom. "The keys of the Kingdom of God. are committed unto man on the earth, and from thence shall the gospel roll forth unto the ends of the earth, as the stone which is cut out of the mountain without hands shall roll forth, until it has filled the whole earth." (D. & C. Sec. 65:2) Pray to the Lord that the Kingdom of God. may go forth, that the Kingdom of Heaven may come where the Kingdom of God is set upon the earth. God gave revelations to Joseph Smith. He gave us the keys of the, Priesthood on earth. It isn't any guess work with me. I know it. If we keep on going the way we are started we will be saved. I believe the blood of Israel is all around us; there are many. Lorin said 25% of the blood would come. I think it will take the judgments of God to bring them to, but they will be our brethren and you will see greater faith and greater privileges given to these brethren than ever before. They haven't been taught now, but they will some of them have stronger faith than some of our group. The young men who are coming up now are the ones who will redeem Israel. 70

Brigham Young said, "We will go among the Gentiles and bring out the blood of Israel from among them." The kings and queens are not the ones of the earth, but you people here who will send out to get the blood of Israel. When they do come, they will be Brought up and nursed by our wives and mothers. When those people come in here to be nursed, if they are not of the blood of Israel, they will not receive it. They will have to be whipped into line. God bless you. Again I urge you to get the spirit of God around you. Think it over and see. If you have the Spirit of God around you, you will not go far astray. Let us not take the words of anyone. Find out for yourselves. I can teach you and ask you to follow, but I cannot force you against your will. Don't be afraid of the Kingdom of God. God will take care of that. Let us keep the laws He has set down. God bless you, .Amen.

Brother Joseph W. Musser: .

I was reading this morning in the paper that in London in one of the night clubs the Nazi's had let down one of their bombs and killed a great many people. This is the reflection that came to my mind. These people in Europe are engaged in a deadly conflict. They face death every hour of the day and night. They face the judgment that the Lord bas promised upon them. Yet they are engaged in work in the night clubs to forget the troubles that are coming upon them. Now my understanding of the work of God is--when the judgments of God are coming upon us we should humble ourselves and prepare ourselves in the spirit of repentance, in the spirit of the Lord to come back to undo our sinfulness and build up our righteousness. These nations are going right on in their wickedness. John the Revelator said that even after two thirds of the world were slain, the rest would go right on in their wickedness. I am wondering how many of us have the spirit of repentance? How many of us are drawn away from the spirit of ,the Lord to attend picture shows, card games, and frivolous things of the world? Some picture shows are historical and elevating, but I am wondering how many of us are following a shallow course during these great times of judgments that are set forth upon the people. Those judgments are coming to us. This people are going to be tried as no other people have been tried; the trials of Nauvoo, crossing the Missouri and the plains, and such are but small in comparison to the trials that will come upon us. Are we observing the Sabbath Day to keep it holy? Brigham Young said that if he had his way; he would not hold meetings at all on Sundays, but would have meetings during the week and have the privilege of remaining at home studying the scriptures, studying the Gospel and making it a day of rest.

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Moses--when he went into the wilderness. We have got to go into the wilderness. We are getting to a place now where we have got to seek the Lord. We have got to begin to fast and pray to the Lord. I don't mean to starve yourselves, but mean a real fast; the taking of food just to keep our bodies going. And we have got to get down on our knees and pray and pray and pray. The power of Satan is beginning to spread into this people. (Read--"The Coming Crisis—How to Meet It", Truth Magazine, October 1939; Vol. 5, No. 5.--The Lord would let Satan put his power upon us.) The time has come when we must clothe ourselves in sackcloth and ashes and get down on our knees. I wander what this people today would do if we had the judgments of God come down on us now. What would we as a people do? Would this people know who Brother John (Barlow) is; who one another is? Do we know who they are now? We hear people say from time to time, "Do you know where the keys of the Priesthood are?" You must know when the great tribulations come upon this people. Do you know Brother Musser? Yes. How? By the revelations of the Lord. Do you know where Brother Barlow stands? Yes. How? Through the revelations of' the Lord. The Priesthood Counsel knows some things for themselves.

Get the spirit of the Lord. The time has come when you cannot stand, you will not stand, your knees will quake and tremble. Some of this people in the house today will be among them. I tell you that in the name of the Lord. Some of them have professed to take upon them the name of the Lord. In the days of Moses, all were taken away, but this day is a different day and Joseph is going to be there when they take us to Zion. When we go back we will go back with power. There will not be any obstacles to prevent us when the time comes. Let us reflect upon our desires and duties; not like the people in Europe. The same thing is in America today. We are surrounded with the spirit of war. The powers have asked America to go into the war. But we are going to be in it more definitely and actively. Some of our boys will have to go. The only thing that will protect this country is righteousness; and the only thing that will protect our families is righteousness and keeping the commandments of God. God bless you, Amen.

Closing song: "The Spirit of God."

Benediction: Brother Jay Jessop.

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Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, March 23, 1941 held at home of Brother Charles Zitting, 4118 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, at 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided.

Brother Lewis Kelsch conducted.

First Song: "The Day Dawn is Breaking." Prayer: Brother Lyman Jessop. Second Song: "Gladly Meeting, Kindly Greeting."

Brother Arnold Boss

was the first speaker. He spoke of these beautiful mountains, the Rockies; the words of Brigham Young when he came here; the vision he had concerning the Rockies; Joseph Smiths two prophesies--(l) mob law would rule, and (2) those who professed to be Saints would hike to the Rockies. He said he is thankful that the missionaries in Switzerland Brought his father the Gospel. When we embrace the truth we lose our jobs, our property, etc. and we have to start again depending on our faith in the Lord to help us. It is necessary for us to go through some schooling on this earth to qualify us for the higher glories. Everything we possess will have to be placed on the altar of sacrifice. The time will come when the House of God will be set in order. If you have made any covenants with God you will have to keep them here on earth, or account for them on the other side. He bore his testimony that the power of the Priesthood is here in these mountains and will remain here until the Lord gives word to take the Saints to the central Stake of Zion.

Brother Roy Johnson

of New Harmony spoke next and said he was thrilled with the testimonies of the brethren this morning in Priesthood meeting. He bore witness to the statement made about the Saints and the Priesthood and the gathering to Zion. If we don't become united, the Lord will raise up a people who will become united. Ephraim will lead in building up Zion in Jackson County.

Brother Charles Zitting:

(Referred to the parable of the nobleman and the olive trees, concerning the redemption of Zion. D. & C. Sec. 101:43-62.) This beautiful land here was given to us to keep and we will not leave it. Though Jackson County, Mo. will be the central stake, Utah will be one of the 73

stakes. Going through Wyoming we see nothing but desert and waste land. So Utah and Salt Lake County was to the early settlers. I love these valleys, the canyons and the streams here. But Jackson County will be nothing but waste and it will have to be rebuilt and it will take some real work. It won't be easy and we will have to sweat and work and struggle. It will take real men to accomplish it. It makes no difference how hard a thing looks ahead of us, we will have to put up with pestilences, sacrifices, hard work, etc. Brigham Young said the elements that furnish any food are right here in this earth, elements for clothing and building, etc. It is true that the desert has been made to bloom like arose. I believe this people can put forth the effort to accomplish the things that are ahead of us, but it will take a united effort to do it.

Chorus: "How Sweet Is the Work."

Brother Albert Barlow

spoke of how much it take to live the Gospel, how hard it is to grow and without the spirit of the Lord it can't be accomplished. Unity is so necessary and gives power. When we start finding fault with one another it's a Good time to take a Good look at ourselves in the mirror. If the Lord was to give us a blessing unworthily, it would be to our condemnation. We must be humble and seek the Lord. I am not ashamed to live the fullness of the Gospel and I will defend it whenever I am called upon to do so. We should prey to the Lord when we get out of step. The main things we have to strive for is love, understanding, unity, peace, etc. each day of the week.

Song: "Come, Come Ye Saints."

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

(D. & C. Sec. 93: --reference.) Brother Lyman (Jessop) in his prayer this morning expressed a thought to the Lord--the desire to learn to become united and live nearer the Lord. I think that is the kernel we are after today. We came here to learn and gain knowledge. We left our spirit estate in such a way that we were acceptable to the Lord and that we were chosen to come to this earth to continue our labors. We were chosen to come forth now and help to people this earth and live our second estate; so that our purpose is to come to learn and part of that learning is unity--how to became one in all things. We have heard about how we could go back to Jackson County and help build up the Zion of our Lord there. It has to be done. Many of us will want to stay in the mountains here; but I think that when that time comes, and it is not far off,

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things here will not be as they are now, and we will be more willing to go and help build up Zion. "Verily, thus saith the Lord: It shall came to pass that every soul who forsaketh his sins and cometh unto me, and calleth on my name, and obeyeth my voice, and keepeth my commandments, shall see my face and know that I am." (D. & C. 93:1) "Every soul who forsaketh his sins"--if you have any, forsake them today, not tomorrow or a year from now. Today is the day. "And cometh unto me". How? By forsaking our sins, keeping His commandments which He has given us, not by faultfinding, back-biting, etc. Come unto to God by keeping His commandments. and call on my name. Why? For whatsoever you ask in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ in faith shall be given to you, if it be Good. (He related an incident in the life of Apostle John W. Taylor When he was in Mexico he was called to talk to a village of three or four hundred Saints who had been fighting and quarreling. He was sent to preach repentance and the Gospel to them. He told them of the example of his two fighting bull dogs who would rather fight than eat, and told them they were like the dogs, they would rather fight than eat. They would not bend to the wind like the Quaking asps. He said, "If you don't repent and do it quickly (prophesying in the name of the Lord), the Lord will wipe you out quickly In a month a cloudburst came and wiped them out.) It is our privilege to take a lesson from the word of the Lord. The lord gives us trials. Why should we think to gain a reward if we shun the fight. We all have tasks and they come to Brother John and myself. I know we are all troubled with our burdens and tasks, but that is what makes us strong. The Lord has preserved these valleys of the mountains for us. When Brigham Young came here some of the Saints wanted to go to California where there was gold., while these valleys were deserts and empty. Why did the Lord let them gather gold all around us, and not in our own mountains? Because the Lord knew if we had gold we would go to hell. There is enough gold in these mountains to supply the world. There is nothing more to give the spirit of God and draw near to Him than work. Thank God for work In Short Creek they had to work and it has made than have faith and the spirit of work. It builds them up. The children of Brother Roy Johnson are filled with the spirit of work. It is a blessing to see them. They are learning how to maintain themselves and how to obtain faith and go to the Lord in faith, for the things they do need. They sometimes go barefooted. The Lord has taught them through His spirit that it isn't the clothes that they wear, but the determination to serve the Lord and keep His commandments that makes men of them. They are growing. When we begin to know things like that we will begin to grow, to become united.

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You have the appointed brethren of the Priesthood among you and they are placed in charge of leading this people until they are prepared to go back to Jackson County and fill up this western hemisphere. Some of you will be called to go to South America and southern countries to preach to those people. But we have got to learn how to make sacrifices, how to "bend with the wind" if necessary; not have back-biting, jealousies, bickering, etc. Some of you women become jealous, and you have to overcome that jealousy and draw near to the Lord. It is an admission that you are inferior to those around you. If you want to be strong, and to be able to go to the Lord for strength and light as you need it, overcome this nasty habit of jealousy. It is a stunting process, nasty; it makes you small. We have got to overcame it. May God bless you, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

My Brothers and sisters, I don't know whether I want to say much or not; I want to leave a Good. taste in your mouths. Brother Joseph's speech did leave a Good taste in your mouths. When we talk about united order and become united and live as one big family, isn't that what we have been praying for; isn't it what the world has learned to pray for? "O God, our Eternal. Father, Hallowed be Thy name; Thy kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven; etc." That kingdom, God's kingdom has been set up here on earth. (D. & C. Section 65) That kingdom is here and thank the Lord we belong to it. Faith gives us the power to become members of' the Kingdom of God. Faith, repentance and baptism. We must comply with the laws of that kingdom that this people has failed to live: (1) United order, and (2) Celestial marriage. They tried the united order a number of years ago and failed. Why? Brigham Young said, "That is the dividing line." If we try to keep the commandments of God and still do the things of the world, we are getting into plenty of trouble. You can't wear the yoke of God and the yoke of Satan at the same time. Let us put of the yoke of Lucifer and wear the yoke of God. Psalm 107--"Oh give thanks unto the Lord for he is Good; for his mercy endureth forever. Let the redeemed of the Lord say so, whom he hath redeemed from the hand of the enemy etc." The Saints came out here then what? For a while they kept the commandments of God. Brigham Young praised them and then they commenced to fall away. They became rich and began to follow Lucifer. And what is it today? If you believe the fullness of the Gospel today they put a yoke upon you am drive you out. I am glad to see Sister Nielson here.

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Brothers and Sisters, round up your shoulders, keep all the laws of God and if we will do that He will never forsake us. We will have lots of trials, but that will be the making of us and save us and exalt us in the Kingdom of God. God bless you, Amen.

Song: "Put Your Shoulder to the Wheel." Benediction by Brother Edward Christensen. LJAllred.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, April 6, 1941, held at the home of Bro. Charles F. Zitting, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah at 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.

First Song: "How Firm A Foundation." Prayer: by Brother Carl N. O. Holm. Second Song: by the Chorus, "There is a Green Hill Far Away."

Brother Rulon C. Allred:

My Brothers and sisters, I don't think I was more surprised in my life. I am filled with a keen sense of responsibility in talking to you today and I am very much aware of the importance of this occasion. It is the true tine of the birth of our Lord and Savior on the earth. The main body of us have been cast out by the church because of our belief in the full Gospel of Jesus Christ. Those words may seem light and immaterial, but those of us who have magnified the Priesthood of God, "who have partaken of the holy ordinances of the House of the Lord consider it very serious, and would not be here today if we did not believe we were following the path of God, regardless of the love of the world and the rights of men. We would have bowed our knee, we would have sought the favor of the leaders of the church and pampered after the love of men and the world, if we had not desired to go according to the dictates of our own consciences. If there are any of us here today who have other reasons than to follow God, let us get on our knees and pray about it. If you have arrived at the place where you are today, because of the love of God--to consecrate everything you have to God--then you are on the right footing. No matter now keen our love of truth may be, no matter how sincere our desire to serve God is, we have weaknesses which we are constantly having to overcame, that through the love of Jesus Christ we may be saved in the light of our Heavenly Father. I do not believe anyone ever spoke as did Paul on the subject of charity, which we are told in the Book of Mormon is the pure love of Christ. As the love of Christ comprehends all the virtues of Godliness, so must our charity or love be like 77

Christ's. (1 Corinthians 13.) The Lord expects us to incorporate in our lives all the virtues of Christ, which can only be achieved by attaining all the virtues of Godliness. "Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing." How great is the gift of prophecy, yet it does not compare with charity, which is the true love of God, and comprehends even prophecy. Though I have faith to remove mountains and have not the love of God, I am nothing. Those of us who are attempting to live the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, we cannot be concerned so much about having our feelings hurt, as we should be about hurting the feelings of others.

"And though I bestow all my Goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing." A lot of us have the idea that charity means to give our Goods to the poor, but that Paul meant it to comprehend more than this is evident from his statement, "Though I give all I have to the poor, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing for charity comprises all the attributes which to possess makes us like the gods. Charity is lacking in a lot of us who think we have the love of God and are mean as the devil. "Charity suffererth long, and is kind;" The lack of kindness, a component part of charity, displays a pettish weakness. Though we may appear outwardly to be very fine, if we are not kind, there is some little rottenness down deep inside. "Charity envieth not;" --If we truly have the love of God in our hearts, we will not envy one another; we will not prize another's Goods nor wish we had that which he possesses, but we will magnify our own virtues and possessions and calling and be satisfied with the lot God gives us. "Charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up." No one can have the pure love of God in his heart and be proud and puffed up, for the scriptures say that all the proud and they that do wickedly and the stiff-necked shall be as stubble and the Lord will burn them up. The very essence of charity is humility. Christ did not hesitate to claim that which was His own, but He did not think it incompatible with justice to make Himself equal with God, but He sought to become like God by acquiring His Father's attributes and He knew when He had attained them in their fullness. He would be like God. Christ's every action manifested humility and subjection to the will of His Father. (Charity) "Doth not behave itself unseemly," Charity makes a gentleman out of any man and a lady out of any woman. Charity is careful how it exercises itself in the presence of others lest it step on the toes of others. Seeketh not her own, is 78

not easily provoked," --Remember that the greatest of all attributes is love, that God is love, and that as we hope to become like Him, we must overcome these personal littleness's. "(Charity) thinketh no evil" How we love to spread the evil of one another. For example, so many of us are running around with stories of one another, only too glad to believe every evil report, and like busy-bodies scatter it abroad. Paul said God was displeased with the ancient saints because there were busy-bodies, and tale-bearers among them. These vices exist among us. How we delight in "thinking evil". For example, this tale came to me: "Do you know what I heard? Rulon's taking steps to see that his girls do not become pregnant and is letting Ruth have all the children because she bears them so easily. He is a doctor he knows what to do. If we had the love of God in our hearts, we would not repeat such stories, nor would we delight in believing them. Unless we overcome those things we will never have true charity nor become like God. "Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth, beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, and endureth all things." If we truly have the pure love of God in our hearts, we will learn to say, "I do not understand, rather than, "I do not believe." We will have to attain the power to endure all things; there are no persecutions, trials or hardships that we cannot stand, for we will know that our course is pleasing unto God, and the virtues of Godliness are made manifest in our lives. It is within the ability of this group to bear your trials, hardships, difficulties, etc., with patience and long-suffering. God will reward you. Often we hear, "Even if it is true, I do not want to believe it." If there are" things that we do not understand, we should say, "We hope we may sometime understand and believe them." Our thirteenth article of faith says, "We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous and in doing Good to all men; indeed we may say we follow the admonitions of Paul; we believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and we hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of Good report, or praiseworthy, we seek after these things. This plainly shows that one of our basic principles of our religion is to understand charity, and refers to the teachings of Paul. "Charity never faileth,"--true love will never fail, not only as it is manifested in our lives for others, but as it is manifested in the love of God toward us--it Will never fail; "but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, "they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. " "For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away." When the heavens, are open to us, we will know all things in there fullness and that which is spoken in

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part we will know in full. All these gifts, manifestations of the love of God toward us are given in part, but then we shall know than in full. When I was a Child, I spake as a Child, I understood as a Child, I thought as a Child, but when I became a man, I put way childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly, but then face to face, now I know in part, but then shall I know even as also I am known and now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three but the greatest of these is charity." Brothers and sisters, let us see if we can acquire it. This I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Hunter from Idaho spoke and said he felt very humble at this time, and

he made the trip down to the meeting to satisfy a desire that he had had for a long time to be with the group_ He spoke of how he received the first "Truth", was converted, and later converted his family to the fullness of the Gospel. His wife is very spiritual and it is through her that he is at the meeting today. Celestial marriage is the greatest principle revealed to man on earth, and it is by that principle that men may became gods.

Vocal Solo: by Brother Rulon T. Jeffs, "Calvary."

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

This is a great pleasure, my Brothers and sisters,; I think this is the largest audience we have had in this home, and this is the most spacious home we have. The next facility is Brother Lewis (Kelsch) lawn when the weather permits.

We have with us this day a number of new faces--saints who have come no doubt to attend conference and who have decided to attend this meeting. We meet every two weeks, or twice a month, in general meeting and we have our class exercise each Tuesday evening, except the first Tuesday in the month when we meet conjointly for testimony. I was glad to hear Brother Hunter; we have he and his wife and two children with us today and I can endorse his remarks regarding his wife and his family. I would like to talk along the lines of President Grant's opening talk of Conference, not that we want to criticize President Grant bitterly, for I think he is accomplishing a wonderful work; but he is the President of the church; he is the

president by reason of the fact that the people have chosen him. He is all that the

people are entitled to. The Saints whom we call Latter Day Saints rejected the fullness of the Gospel. In 1852 the church accepted the fullness of the Gospel, the marriage covenant, but they accepted by vote and not in their hearts. In Brigham 80

Young's day they tried to get him to nullify the action made in conference in 1852. In John Taylor's day they urged it with more velocity; they went so far as to present him with the Manifesto, and you all know the result of the presentation. He set five men apart to work with himself and Joseph F. Smith to see that that principle was kept alive. Then he died and with greater force than ever they supplicated President Woodruff and adopted the Manifesto to stop the principle of Celestial Marriage--and they got it. All those Who refused to accept the principle after adopting it in 1852 rejected the Lord. Having rejected the Lord in their hearts and then finally putting it on record--voting in the conference of the church by adopting the Manifesto--they abandoned that principle, they had no further claim on the revelations of God. The last revelation of the church was through Wilford Woodruff in 1889 which told the Saints not to reject their religion and keep the commandments of God. When President Grant came on the scene, he came there not because the Lord had selected him, except to give the will of the people. Under that rule-- common consent of the people. the Lord takes cognizance of the will of the people, just as the people in the days of Samuel wanted the rule of a king. The Lord told him, "They are not rejecting you, but me," and he told them this, but they still clamored for a king and got one. There has been war ever since. So when the people wanted a president who would surrender the higher principles of salvation, they selected their present President. I say this, not criticize President Grant, for he has entered that High and holy law, and is still living it; that law but has adopted a policy in the church in connection with the brethren which means the abandonment of the law by the great masses of the membership in the church; that is what the people wanted. One of the leading sisters made the statement that she had been striving for years to have the garments of the Priesthood changed to the present day fashion and that finally she had succeeded. Those that follow that policy in this group of people will force themselves into spiritual death.

President Grant said, "I ask every man and woman occupying a place of

responsibility whose duty it is to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to live it and to teach it and keep the commandments of God so that their example will teach it. We can endorse that statement. And if they cannot live it, we will go on living it and putting our arms around them (casting them out because they could not see as they follow) we will go on praying for them that they may become strong enough to live it. No man can teach the Gospel of Jesus Christ unless he is living it. (It is a self-evident truth that unless you are living it, you cannot teach it.) He can go on, this person who is not living it, but we want true men as officers in the priesthood and true women in the Relief Societies, etc." That sounds Good, it sound s like the leaders of the church have the spirit of teaching their program and are calling the people to repentance; but when you go 81

to live the Gospel, according to the laws of God, then you are disfellowshiped, cast out, placed upon the black list, your name is published on the list Broadcasted to the people so that you will not participate in the functions of the church. That is the reason we cannot accept these musical words of the leaders of the church we cannot hear them for the din of what they are doing.

President Grant's vision in Arizona when he was called to be an apostle.

John Taylor received a revelation calling President Grant to the apostleship of the church, but it seemed necessary for President Grant to receive it for himself. He seemed to see in vision a group of people, etc. President Grant recently made the statement that he had never seen the face of the Savior or received a revelation. I wanted to comment on this particular phase of the conference at this time. A number of the speakers have tried to settle the war in Europe. If they had only put forth the energy to overcome the wickedness of the Saints here in Zion. I was pleased to hear the words of Brother Allred and I endorse his statements and I am pleased that he has called us to repentance. I wanted to call attention to some items along that line. It is a Priesthood Issue; it was a Priesthood issue in the spirit world before we came here. Lucifer objected to Jesus Christ and the Priesthood. Satan fought Christ's plan and the plan involved Priesthood. Satan was going to rob us of our free agency and force us to become his subjects, and force the leaders of the church to follow him. (Rulon S. Wells said yesterday that when we are forced to do a thing then we are not responsible.) Satan proposed to use force in his mission at that time and he was cast out. Then there was another great group of spirits who fought the Priesthood, but they did not reject and fight it to the extent that Lucifer did. They are the Negro element today. President Young made it clear that all white spirits were those who stood up in same degree of faithfulness and loyalty to the Priesthood, and they all merit to some extent a white body. But those who did not merit that white body came as black people. President Young said that after all white people (yellow, and others) have received the Priesthood, then it will be taken to the black people. Why? Because the white people defended the Priesthood against the black race. I have heard a woman Negro say that she would be willing to be skinned alive if she could receive a white body. So, it is a Priesthood issue; it always has been. It was a Priesthood issue in the case of Cain and Abel; it was a Priesthood issue in the days of Christ, in Celestial marriage, etc. You men and women who came to be inhabitants of the earth, who claim the Priesthood, it is a Priesthood issue; it was because of the fight that Satan waged against Christ to bring his power on earth.

President Grant is the president of the church because the people selected

him and because he adopted the policy of the people of the church. Lorin C. Woolley gave us the order of succession of one president to another: "The 82

President the church, who is also the president of the council, is appointed by

revelation, and acknowledged in his administration by the voice of the people." (D. & C. 102:9) Joseph Smith was appointed the first president by the Lord, and also

president of the High Priesthood, holding the keys of the Priesthood the keys of

this last dispensation, and the keys of the Kingdom of God as conferred upon him by Peter, James and John, in June 1829. Joseph Smith, Sr., the father of the Prophet, was ordained the first patriarch by the Lord through the Prophet Joseph Smith, Upon his death Hyrum Smith became the next patriarch of the church by order of succession, from father to son. The presidents of the church who followed Joseph Smith were Brigham Young (who was the President of the Priesthood and as such was the mouth piece of God on the earth, as was Joseph, and his word was the word of God) John Taylor (also President of the Priesthood), Wilford Woodruff (who lost the keys of the Priesthood because of the Manifesto and associated acts), Lorenzo Snow, Joseph F. Smith and Heber J. Grant, all of whom were set apart by the patriarchs of the church, except Heber J. Grant. President Grant stated that

President Smith said a few weeks before the latter's death, "Because of your

position in the Twelve, I expect you to be the next President of the Church."

President Grant said today that President Smith told him that he had a great

responsibility and continued, "God bless you my boy, the Lord know who He wants to lead this people and He never makes a mistake." He did not say the Lord wants you to be the President of the church. President Grant said Joseph F. Smith took the keys of the Priesthood with him and that they will be restored by the One Mighty and Strong. Read from Section 107;22 of Doctrine and Covenants, "Of the Melchizedek Priesthood, three Presiding High Priests, chosen by the body, appointed and ordained to that office, and upheld by the confidence, faith, and prayer of the church, form a quorum of the Presidency of the Church." Who are these Presiding High Priests? Concerning the Council of the Presidency (Mil. Star, Vol. 15:342): "September 26, (1835) This morning the Twelve returned from their mission to the East, and on the same day the COUNCIL OF THE PRESIDENCY OF THE CHURCH, consisting of Joseph Smith jun., Sidney Rigdon, David Whitmer, W. W.Phelps, John Whitmer, Hyrum Smith and Oliver Cowdery, met to consider the case of the Twelve who had previously been reproved in consequence of certain letters and reports coming to the ear's of the Council. "An attempt was made in the foregoing council to criminate the Twelve before the High Council, for cutting off Gladden Bishop at their Bradford conference, but their attempt totally failed. I decided that the High Council had nothing to do with the Twelve, or the decisions of the Twelve. But if the Twelve erred they were accountable only to the GENERAL COUNCIL of the authorities 83

of the whole Church; according to the revelations. "Subject only to the direction of the First Presidency of the Church. (Mil. Star, 15: 595) and accountable only to the "General Council of the authorities of the whole Church", or the seven High Priests who chose them and before whom they actually appeared to give an account of their labors." Joseph Smith said "I decided that the higher Council had no decision to give but the General Council (Seven Presidents in the Higher Order of the Priesthood). March 29, 1836 the solemn assembly of the First Elders of the Church was called, (First Elders--Council of the Presidency or the Presidency of the High Priesthood). "Accordingly, we proceeded to cleanse our faces and our feet, and then proceeded to wash one another's feet. (This is the sacred ordinance of washing of feet which is entered into in sacred places and under sacred conditions ) President Sidney Rigdon first washed President Joseph Smith, Junior's feet, and then, in turn, was washed by him; after which President Rigdon washed President Joseph Smith Senior and Hyrum Smith. President Joseph Smith, Jr. washed President Frederick G. Williams, and then President Hyrum Smith washed President David Whitmer's and President Oliver Cowdery's feet. Then President David Whitmer washed

President William W. Phelps feet, and in turn President Phelps washed President

John Witmer's feet. The Bishops and their counselors were then washed, after which we partook ,of the bread and wine." (Mil. Star, Vol. 15:727) On the following day the feet washing ordinance was proceeded with on behalf of the Council of the Twelve. All of these men whose feet had been washed on the previous day, and who were termed "Presidents" were not the Quorum of the Twelve. Now the Quorum of the Twelve tries to preside over everything. The reason for the antagonism in the Church today between the Church and this group of people here today is because they refuse to recognize the authority of the Priesthood of God upon the earth today. This group of people was selected to keep the fire's of faith burning in the hearts of the Saints of the Lord Jesus Christ. This feet washing ordinance was given to your Priesthood Council under divine circumstances and it is to be extended when the time comes, and is to be extended to this group. That is the reason we have been cast out, because we have received the authority of the Priesthood on the earth. Ninety-seven percent of the people rejected the principle of Celestial marriage because they were the thimbles, the pints, of Mormonism, because they did not have the capacity to fill up the bushel. So there were only 3% in the early days who measured up. Think of it, that we should take the position, or submit to the position of these half-breeds, and tell God what to do; should establish rules and regulations and yet think that GOD would recognize them in that work. So, this is a Priesthood issue.

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We say to President Grant--he hasn't better friends in the world and we want him to live without suffering physically. We know where he stands and we know that the Lord has sent messengers to him warn him to repent and to recall his course. The last one He sent to him, he said, "That is enough." Brother Grant is laboring under that cloud of rejecting a revelation that was given through a messenger by the Lord to him.

Brother J. Reuben Clark: said the people of the Church have honored him in

his position, have selected him to be in the office, the high and great position, that he now occupies (not the Lord). Yet they claim to be prophets, seers, and revelators; but they do not recognize the Lord. I have heard President Grant say, "We have got to live by every revelation in that book (referring to the Doctrine am Covenants). It is all right to tell the people to live by the word of the Lord, but what about doing it. I went to admonish you to receive the words of Brother Allred--receive the law of charity. We are not perfect--we have much to accomplish yet those backbiting criticisms have got to leave us. The Lord will not protect us unless we overcome them; we have got to "live by every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God." Plural marriage will not save any person. It will damn more than it will save. It is damning people today in our group, and it will damn you and me if we don't live up to the word of God and accept all His commandments. "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." God bless you, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

My Brothers and sisters, I have been greatly edified by the words that have been spoken today. I heard a man say the other day, Is it in this life that plural marriage first came into existence?" Do you expect to get into the Celestial Kingdom? That law was taught in the beginning. Adam had to live it and He had in beget spirit children in that law before He came here to earth. That law was taught and practiced in that time as well as it is now. Then we no doubt understood before we came to this life. Remember, this law, plural marriage, is not a law of the people; it is a law of the Holy Priesthood. It was taught to Joseph Smith and some of his friends and he had 27 wives sealed to him before it was made known to the people. It was taught to him in 1831, but it was not until 1843 that it was made known to others. The people of the Church never accepted it until 1852 and in a special conference here in Salt Lake they adopted the principle and sent Brother Orson Pratt to Washington. It was taught as a law of the church and in 1890 it was rejected. Then the Priesthood picked it up again and it was never rejected; and God saw that it went on and sent His Son Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith here to earth to see that

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this law was continued. Why? Because you and I cannot be Gods without it. There is a law irrevocably decreed upon which every blessing is predicated. They cannot cut you off the Church because this Priesthood of God is inseparably connected with the powers of heaven, and if the heavens withdraw amen to the Priesthood of that man who tries to cast you out. We are ostracized and cast out. How thankful I am that God saw me worthy to be one of those mo were cast out for He has said that out of the Church shall come a people, a nucleus to carry on His great work. If we don't prepare ourselves, how can He use us. We must prepare. I was quite taken up with President Grant's sermon. Now Brothers and sisters, anyone of you who are reading the Doctrine and Covenants and the other church works cannot help seeing the condition that the church is in. You cannot hear what they say for what they are doing. God bless you, and prepare yourselves--get ready. I told you a number of times to get the spirit of God around you. If you don't, these judgments and things that are coming upon us will not let us stand. We have got to live all the laws of God. We have got to love our neighbor as ourselves.

God bless you, Amen.

Closing Song: "Parting Hymn." Benediction: Brother Edward Christensen. LJAllred.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, April 28, 1941, held at the home of Brother Charles F. Zitting, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, at 2: 00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted..

Opening Song: "O Ye Mountains s High.'; Prayer: Brother Solomon Denos. Second Song: "The Joy and the Song."

Brother Smart (from California):

I would like to be considered a member of this group and no longer of California. I think we have very much to be thankful for--a grand people to associated with, a knowledge of the Gospel, and the opportunity to live it and learn more of God's laws and commandments. I have been blessed abundantly with a wonderful wife and family. 86

He then told of how he happened to move to Utah through. the direction of the Lord, and of securing work; and said how thankful he is for all his blessings, far Gad has been Good.

Brother Jay Jessop

bore his testimony and said how thankful he was for his parents, to be a member of this group, and for the teachings that his father and mother have given him.

Brother T. R. Dockstader

spoke next and said it is difficult to stand before such a fine people who are living the Gospel. He bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the, Gospel, spoke of Brother Hammon's family and the confidence they have in him, of how near the Lord some of the Brothers in our group are living, how difficult it has been for him to supply sustenance for his family of late and the help one of the brethren gave him when he most needed it. He said he knows we are in bondage and are placed in such conditions to try us that we might be perfected in all things, and knows of the necessity of having the spirit of the Lord around us.

Tenor Solo: by Brother Solomon Denos, "The Beautiful City."

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

I've been edified by the remarks and singing that have gone before. I was particularly impressed with the prayer of Brother Denos in which he expressed gratitude for the Priesthood. I think that a thing we should be grateful for ourselves. I remember when President Lorenzo Snow said he thanked God he saw weaknesses and imperfections in the Prophet Joseph Smith for he knew he had many weaknesses himself and therefore God would give him a chance too. I thank God for Brother Barlow's weaknesses, but also that Brother Barlow has strength to overcome those weaknesses. "Ye are therefore commanded to be perfect, even as your Father who is in heaven is perfect." (Matt. 5:50) That is the standard which we are set to follow that we might become perfect and be as our Father and Savior Jesus Christ, for the Savior is like the Father and follows after the Father. Jesus said, "He that hath seen me hath seen the Father, etc." (John 14:9) Here is a Son who came here to earth with the power over life and death, yet He could do nothing except that the Father told Him to do. He was perfect in being able to follow direction. We must learn as a people to follow direction. 87

I was reading this morning in the History of the Church" with references to Zion in 1833. Brother William W Phelps who became annoyed with the conditions because they were not as they should be wrote the Prophet and accused him of being a dictator; (also one from Brother Gilbert). Joseph Smith wrote back and said: "The Lord will have a place whence His word will go forth, in these last days in purity; for if Zion will not purify herself, so as to be approved of in all things, in His sight, He will seek another people; for His work will go on until Israel is gathered, and those who will not hear His voice, must expect to feel His wrath. (There is a law that is very definite.) Our hearts are greatly grieved at the spirit which is breathed both in your letter and that of Brother Gilbert's, the very spirit which is wasting the strength of Zion like a pestilence; and if it is not detected and driven from you, it will ripen Zion for the threaten judgments of God. Remember God sees the secret springs of human action, and knows the hearts of all living. (History of Church 1:316-17) This statement of the Prophet was literally fulfilled. "There is one clause in Brother Joseph's letter which you may not understand; that is this, If the people of Zion did not repent, the Lord Would seek another people, and another people. "Zion is the place where the temple will be built, and the people gathered, but all people upon that holy land being under condemnation, the Lord will cutoff, if they repent not, and bring another race upon it that will serve Him. The Lord will seek another place to bring forth and. prepare His word to go forth to the nations, and as we said before, so we say again. Brother Joseph will not settle in Zion, except she repent, and serve God, and obey the new covenant." (Th. p. 320) That was the verdict of the people at that time. The Lord told Joseph it was not necessary to remain there under this condition. We are here in that place referred to as "another place, and another people" because those early people were driven out. We are to follow the Priesthood and follow counsel with the spirit of Latter Day Saints. I feel this is a very important subject at this time. We should learn to follow before e we can hope to lead. I was told some time ago that some of the brethren's wives had been praying that their husbands would be called into the Counsel of the Priesthood. I wouldn't if I were you women or brethren, pray for the privilege of being appointed to a certain position. I would pray that you may live and become worthy of being able to fill any position that you may be called to and overcome all things. When you are in that condition, then the Lord can place you where you belong, where you were appointed to be placed before you ever came here. In the great council before the world was, we all received our appointments and by obeying the Lord and being honest and true and upright, we will gratify those positions and we will be able to be called to fill those positions.

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Heber C. Kimball once said: "Have not the majority of this congregation made the most solemn covenants and vows that they will listen. to, obey, and be subject to the Priesthood? Have not the sisters made the same solemn covenants and vows before God and angels, that they would be subject to their husband? Are you faithful to your vows?. You as sisters are under covenant to obey your husbands. You have accepted that; you have been sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise. Are you faithful to the vows that you have entered into? If you are you will have dreams, and visions, and revelations from the world of light, and you will be comforted by night and by day. But if you do not fulfill your covenants you cannot enjoy these blessings. If I will serve God with all my heart, mind and strength, then I will receive the blessings. If my wives will obey my law, then they will with me receive their blessings. That is a promise of God, and I can promise you that, "Learn to govern yourselves in a family capacity, far there is more reformation ought to commence, after it has commenced in the assembly of the Elders of Israel. There must be order, peace, love, kindness, and gentleness, and every noble sentiment to accomplish a reformation that is pleasing to God." (J.D.3:ll2) It has pained me very much of late to have had the report come to me that same of the brethren are not kind to their wives; that they have gone to the extent of striking their wives. I want to say that that is not serving God; you brethren, you cannot be servants of God the Eternal Father and treat your wives with cruelty. No man of God will ever strike a woman. If he does, he will repent and ask forgiveness of that woman, or the spirit of the Lord will leave him. She is our helpmate; she helps to exalt us. A man is not a full man until he has been joined by a woman. The two are necessary to make one. When a woman pledges her troth and interest into a vow to keep the laws of her husband, there is no brutality. I warn the brethren who are cruel to repent; otherwise the Lord will withdraw from us. The Lord uses our wives sometimes to teach us patience, long-suffering, kindness, etc. In our group He has made some Good choices. I want to say to you sisters, the Lord told Eve that in sorrow she would bring forth her children and her desire would be unto her husband and he should rule over her. He told her that because it was an eternal law; a law that exists in all worlds. In anger? No, he is your leader, director and he is the one to tell you when and where to go and when to stop. There has got to be a head in all families am organizations. In the Priesthood, the father is the head. The time will come when the fathers of the children will tell them who and when to marry. Where the parent is serving the Lord, the boy or girl has no right to choose a partner without the consent of the father or mother. I want to warn you sisters to live the law of your husbands. Sometimes they

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make mistakes, but live their law anyway. The best way you can shame a husband is by saying, "I am going to stand by you." If you stand by him, the Lord will stand by you if he is doing right. I want to tell you again of the revelation of Brother Barlow and emphasize it-it was revealed to him that this people at the present time must get the Spirit of the Lord and keep it. Many things are beginning to materialize when everyone of your Brothers and sisters will be put to a test. You will be asked to do things which you are not prepared for unless you have the Spirit of the Lord and are prepared, or you will be removed from your places. God bless you, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

Brothers and sisters,· I have been greatly edified this afternoon. I was glad to hear Brother Joseph mention the words he did. About a week ago I told you to round up your shoulders. Since then we have had Brothers and sisters come to us asking what we can do as a people. We can live the laws of God. I was asked the question: "Do you think we were taught this law (plural marriage) before we came here?" I answered, "Do you believe you will have your wives in the next world? Do you think you can raise celestial children then and not be taught the law before you came here?" We are working to have eternal increase. We expect to have our wives on the other side and we expect to beget spirit children. If that is the case we were taught that law before we came here because we were Brought up in that kind of element. This work is progressing faster than a great many of you think. You are a Good people, but you are not Good enough. We have got to learn to live closer to the Lord. We have got to keep His commandments. President Taylor said, "We have been, with the help of the Lord, succeeding in gathering out many of the Saints of God from the world, etc." Now let us make a new start am new resolution. I want to say further, of late we have been getting some messengers telling us what to do and how to do it. If we took the counsel they gave to us, we would be in a pretty bad fix. We must take the counsel from the Lord. I know that this Gospel is true and that the plan we are following is true. I ask God to bless you, and dig down in your hearts and be careful of what you say about the Priesthood. The personnel of the Priesthood does not mean anything, but the office itself is something. God bless you, Amen.

Closing Song: "God Be With You."

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LJ"Allred.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, May 11, 1941, held at the home of Brother Charles F. Zitting, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.

Brother Joseph W. Musser presided and conducted.

First Song: "The Lord is My Light." Prayer: Brother Reidle Second Song: "Zion Stands with Hills Surrounding."

Brother John Y. Barlow is out of the city today it was announced.

Brother James Martin was released as chorister, not because his work was not

perfection, but because of his desire.

Brother James Martin:

It is more than I expected--to be called on to speak. I remember the time I met Brother Barlow on Main Street and he asked me to lead the singing in our meetings. So I did and I have done the best I could. Today I testify that the Gospel is true. We are now being cast out of the church, but we are being gathered out as people of the Lord. I thank you for the support you have given me am I am happy to give the job over to the younger people. (Athlene Allred was appointed to take his place.)

Brother Royal Matson

spoke next and bore his testimony saying that he believed that Joseph 8mith is the true prophet of God and that we still have the Priesthood with us. He said that he felt that he was not fit because of his sins to even be with this group at times, but he felt to keep trying and to overcome his weaknesses. He prayed the Lord would bless us all that we may have a unity of the faith and walk together.

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Brother Arnold Boss:

My Brothers and Sisters, I am very happy to be here today with you and I would, like a measure of the spirit of the Lord to say something edifying. I always have a great feeling of humility when I rise before people who have made a covenant with their Father. It isn't what people say, it is the spirit in which they say it. 'There is one thing about this eternal plan--that is that a man cannot bear record of the truth unless he is filled with the spirit of truth. The Holy Ghost is the influence that makes the words said stick to the hearts of those who listen. It is the spirit that you have in your heart that hears witness of the truth. That is what I am striving to accomplish while here on earth. A man of God who has the spirit of God is careful what he says, so that he will not sow the seeds of death in the lives of innocent people. If we can always have the spirit of truth and have our tongues speak the truth, what a wonderful thing it would be. You will know when the spirit of truth comes upon you. John Taylor and Brigham Young grew into the spirit of revelation. They could not expound the Gospel without it. Today in the wards of the church they call upon men of prominence and the people are told ahead what they are going to hear. The children of Israel and the parting of the water--this was done through the spirit of God. The educated preachers say that it is impossible for such a thing to happen. I would like to see the day come when the spirit that existed in the days of Brigham Young would exist--the spirit of God directed. the people. When they (the pioneers) came west all the members of the Church were commanded to repent and go down into the waters of baptism again to cleanse themselves of sin. God humbled them down to the dust when they were coming to this valley. Today we are in bondage spiritually. God will have to liberate us. We have more people in servitude here in Utah than any state in America. We are where we are today because of our negligence. If you come into bondage, it is because of your sins. God has given us a testimony am a witness of the truth, and if we treat it lightly we will suffer. There never has been a body of people in this valley of these mountains who have had more of the truth expounded to them than this people here--as you have my Brothers and Sisters. We must atone for the wrongs we have done. The Lord is going to be merciful to the younger generation who have not been taught the truth of the Gospel. "Where much is given, much is required." This is what I want to leave with you today, and. I say it in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Marie Broadbent in English and German, "Jesus Wants Me for a Sunbeam."

(Soprano solo) by Sister. Genna Vee Hemmon, "That Wonderful Mother of Mine." 92

Brother Chas. F. Zitting:

My Brothers and sisters, it is going to be plenty hard for me to talk to you after hearing that song. The thoughts that went through my mind went back 25 years or more. It first came to me when I got through grade school and wanted to go through high school. My friends that I went through school with went on to higher schools because they were of moneyed parents. They went on missions too, but because of our family circumstances I could not go. One night I came home and I overheard an uncle of mine and my mother talking. This uncle was telling my mother how pleased my boss was with my work on his farm. He said that if there was one boy in this town who would make Good, it was Charles Zitting. My mother said, "Don't you worry about Charles, he will get there." It was that statement that had the most effect upon my life so anything that I heard. There is nothing grander than being a mother, unless it is being a father. And there is nothing grander that a man can do unless it is taking a pure girl and giving her the privilege of motherhood. Leslie Broadbent stated once that his father said to him, "Son the scriptures say that you shall obey your father and your mother as long as your days shall be upon the earth." Leslie did honor his father and his mother by standing by his convictions. He obeyed the commandments of God in spite of what his parents told him against plural marriage. If you want to do a great honor to your parents here on earth, and you get a testimony that it is a righteous cause, then obey the commandments of God. God bless you, .Amen.

Brother Alfred Olschewski

(from New York) spoke next and gave some of his experiences in the Gospel. He recited a poem in German and then explain it in English the best he could. It was about a man on Mt. Zion (near Jerusalem)and an old man who went down the road crying, "Water," and there was none. A woman nursing a baby fed him the food of her body. The man on the Mt. was Satan. It gave a message of love. He stated the plan of salvation is love, and we have only to use this plan to build up our greatest foundations. He also read a poem "Living the way We Pray" from Vol. 5, No.5, of the Truth.

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

I want to recall the words of Brother Olschewski, "We should learn to do as we pray." I honor the mothers today, but no more today than every day of our lives. We have a thanksgiving day to thank the Lord in and a day each are to honor the 93

mothers and thank them and write them a letter. The world has commercialized everything today that we have to go to the merchants to spend money for things that we cannot always send them. I wish we would get away from the idea of spending money to honor our mothers, fathers, and on Christmas, etc. There is no memory more sacred in my mind than my Lord, Jesus Christ, and next to Him comes my noble father, and next to him my beautiful, sacred mother. No more noble and pure mother ever lived and no more noble father ever graced this earth, except Father Adam, as my Lord. The is the message I want to leave today. There are no Germans, English, French, Italians, etc. in the hearts of the Latter Day Saints the only one nationality is the members of the Kingdom of God. Anyone who does not understand that is no Latter Day Saint. People are daily cause of the hatred of one another. No, Germany is not going to win the war; England is not going to win; no, because God the Eternal Father has placed a decree years ago that they would all be destroyed. That is the program that is being carried out. Let the nations fight because of the laws of the land, but let them fight their fight among themselves, and let us keep away from the spirit of quarreling; then the spirit of the Lord will be with us. God bless you, Amen.

Closing Song: "The Spirit of God Like a Fire is Burning" by the chorus and congregation. "Hosannas Anthem"

Benediction: Brother Joseph Jessop.

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Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, May 25, 1941, held at the home of Brother Charles F. Zitting, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided am conducted.

First Song -"The Joyful Song" Prayer Brother Richard Jessop. Second Song "Redeemer of Israel."

Brother John Y. Barlow:

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chosen Brother Leroy Johnson and Brother Marion Hammon and called them into the Council.

Brother Leroy Johnson:

My Brothers and Sisters, I ask for an interest in your faith and prayers that I may be able to fill this position acceptably to the Lord. I cannot express my feelings. It came as a surprise to me, although I felt that something was coming and I did not knew what it was. The spirit of the Lord rested upon me for several weeks to the extent that I prayed to know what was the matter or what was coming to me. But inasmuch as this call has come, I feel I need your support, your faith and prayers, that the work of the Lord might be accomplished, that I might be used in bringing to pass His purposes here on earth. My greatest desire is to' keep God's commandments and help in furthering His work. I knew that the spirit of God is working upon the people. He is trying to get the people to come back and accept the principles of salvation; He is trying to get them to keep the commandments He has given. If we go on as we have been going for the past few years, "What will the Lord have to work with when He does come? He has got to prepare a people for that work Jackson County cannot be redeemed until it is prepared. Brothers and sisters, I feel that the time spoken of by the prophets in the Book of Mormon is about to come upon this people. The condition of the world and everything points to that time when it is said, " my people keep my commandments, etc." We are the people me are spoken of living the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, then His principles are true. We must do the best we can in keeping the commandments of God, then the judgments of God will not come upon us. I feel the weight of this responsibility and I feel I need the support of this people. We will grow if we keep the commandments of God. We must do the best we can in living those laws. By doing this we will prepare ourselves to be used, when the One mighty and Strong comes. I know that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. I ask His blessings upon us, and I do it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Marion Hammon:

It is very difficult to attempt to speak to you today. I do not know why I should feel that way; I feel some responsibility upon me and I cannot think of a time when I felt more right in going ahead in living the laws and principles of the Gospel. I can bear the same testimony that Brother Johnson has borne. I have been fasting until I was almost sick trying to find out what was coming upon me. I felt a responsibility coming upon me that I was unable to meet. When the news came 95

to me it was like a bomb shell upon me. About one month ago today, Brother Joseph said not to seek after a position in the Priesthood of God. I went to Brother John's that night. I have never asked or sought after that position, but it is my desire to build up the Kingdom of God. I feel well in this calling. I feel that there is an opportunity for me if I cleanse myself and put myself in the hands of the Lord so that He can use me. I do not know how sure you all feel that God appointed me, but I have a feeling that I am ready to go ahead in that calling. We find the Prophet Joseph being the great restorer, Brigham Young the colonizer, John Taylor, the lion of the Lord, etc. You know their callings. What the Lord will call me to do, I have not the slightest inkling. I love to read the scriptures but I don't remember them as others like Brother Rulon Allred does. I have often wished that I could accomplish that something. I am desirous of upholding these brethren upon the principle of upholding the Priesthood of God and in helping the sisters. The sister who does not uphold her husband is weakening. There is no man in this calling who is there by choice. It is a responsibility that he cannot deny. I have had a burning testimony in my heart that they are prophets of God. I see a man not born who is capable of his responsibility (speaking of Brother Barlow?) There is no more humble man than he. Brothers and sisters, if you will receive a little counsel from them, get your houses in order so God can use you. Then we can accomplish the work we have set out to do. We have to take comfort in our outcast condition; in the word of the Lord. I have taken a great deal of comfort in a part of Section 35 (D. & C.) in which the Lord revealed to the Prophet concerning Sidney Rigdon, "Behold, verily, verily, I say unto my servant Sidney, I have looked upon thee and thy works. I have heard thy prayers, and prepared thee for a greater work. Thou art blessed, for thou shalt do great things. Behold thou wast sent forth, even as John, to prepare the way before me, and before Elijah which should came, and thou knewest it not." etc. Where do you find a people who are living the laws of God as we, where the husbands are trying to provide over their families according to the law of the Lord. (D. & C. 35:12) "And there are none that doeth Good except those who are ready to receive the fullness of my gospel, which I have sent forth unto this generation." There is a promise to the faithful, as I see it. "There are those who are faithful ,etc." I see no people who are ready to receive the power of God as we. I feel good in my work. I bear my testimony in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

I think it is a matter of great gratification to know that the Lord has again spoken and to see progress again being made in the Priesthood Council as well as 96

outside of this Council, as is evidence of this large congregation today. That these men have been designated by the Lord to take upon themselves the responsibilities mentioned, I am very sure of it. I had the privilege the other day of reading a blessing given to Brother Johnson when he was 17 years of age. The patriarch blessed him with wives and children and told him that someday he would bear the cares of the Priesthood. That patriarch was inspired to open the desires of the Lord in connection with the Priesthood and now he is with his brethren bearing the keys of the Priesthood. It was revealed to me over a year ago that someday Brother Marion would be called into this Quorum. When the word came through Brother John to this effect, he was prepared to receive it. I rejoice that the Lord has permitted the Quorum to be filled once more. I will be happy to witness the organization of the Sanhedrin of which this body of Presidency will be a part and is a part. Some time before Lorin's (Woolley) death, inquiry came from the other side for 39 additional men. If you can get 39, the Lord told Lorin, we can go ahead with the organization of the Sanhedrin. But at that time we were not prepared. The names that were submitted were not acceptable, and we have been working with you Brothers and sisters' and others in the various parts of the country to prepare more to assume the responsibilities for men that the Lord has for them. The Lord isn't calling men only as they are prepared to be chosen, and we will find that the more who are being called, as called, he will chose them; the Lord will designate those only who will be sound and safe and who will stand put, and who will be prepared to stand at the rack, hay or no hay. Now I rejoice in this fact. I rejoice that we have so many stalwarts among us. There are others who could have filled the positions of Brother Johnson and

Brother Hammon but it was the will of the Lord to call them. It is a great

satisfaction to me to know that there are a number of Brother in this house today more preparing themselves for these high and holy positions that are to came. There is only one true church and the membership in that church is very small that is the Church of the First Born. Representing the church as we know it is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, for the purpose of being permitted to hold property and in defending themselves in law suits, but that is not the Church of the First Born. The Church of the First Born are those who are true, fullhearted Latter Day Saints, and those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of Life are there at birth and the only way we can get our names out of that book is to apostatize from the Church of the First Born. The Lamb's Book of Life is the book I am concerned about. I would to God that all your names were there writhen, and would remain there throughout all eternities. That is the book from which we will be judged. There is no power on earth or in hell that will take us out of the Church of the First Born except our own actions. Those who live the fullness of 97

the Gospel according to their best ability, according to the best wisdom and judgment, and according to the strength that they have, will never be removed from the records of the Church of the First Born. So there is some incentive to go on. We often hear at funerals where they preach that they have or have not been successful in accumulating earthly riches. Those things should not disturb us, but the things that should concern us is to be ready to die when we do die; when the Lord will say: "Well done my faithful servant, etc. We have a congregation here today that is pure. It has been a matter of great criticism against this people, against the claims that, we have, is that you are poor, poverty stricken. You are like Peter and James were; therefore you can't be right. The people of the church say we want people who are educated, who have great renown international men, men who can bring us into the world and make the world happy by being with them. One of the most beautiful pictures I have ever seen was on my last trip to Cedar to visit with the brethren there. I went into the home of one of the Good sisters; she had a little Child, one of the most beautiful children I have ever seen. I have heard of the children of kings put in a gilded cradle, but the cradle of this little child was a cardboard carton and there was a sweetness in that child's face in its smile--a spark in its eyes that testified of its greatness. That was a child of the covenant. I think I have never seen anything more sweetly depicted than that little child in a dry Goods carton, the best that they had at the time. When people decry our claims and point out that we are poor, I have to think of our sisters doing good. among the poor in their calicos sometimes walking. That is the spirit that our Lord desires us to have, and that is the spirit that succeeds.

Brother F. M. Darter's announcement of a lecture to be given.

We all have a right to our own opinions. If we did not have, we could. not be saved. The very fact that we have the privilege of thinking for ourselves is one of the purposes of the Lord in bringing about salvation to us. If we could not think or speak, we could. not be saved. There has been some criticism against one member of the Council who volunteered to debate with Brother Darter on that question, but it is the feeling of the Council that that question is not debatable. There is no other way to get to the truth of the mission and truth of the Council than to get the information from the Lord. It is not our desire to prove our positions. We never heard Peter or Paul arguing with the people that they were servants of the Lord, or that they were prophets of the Lord, and neither does the Lord expect us to do it at the present time. We were put here in our positions by the power of the Lord through. the direction of one of His servants. We are here to magnify the Priesthood of Almighty God and to hold that Priesthood and confer it when necessary and to continue the laws, the eternal laws, pertaining to life and 98

salvation. We were told that the time would never come when there would not be any children born in that everlasting principle of heaven. I wish we were all to a unity of the faith, and then we would all see alike, but my mission is ended with reference to these letter's when I bear my testimony that those things are true. It is up to you to find out for yourselves. If you go to the Lord, He will answer you. "Knock and it shall be opened unto you; ask and ye shall receive." Ask in faith, nothing doubted. If we go to Him with doubts in our minds, of course it would not come. But if we seek we will find, and if we knock the door will be opened unto us, and if we ask: we will receive; but it will be done in the Lord' s own Good time. If we are as faithful in that as we are to our meals, the Lord will answer us. I know that this work is true. My nearly 60 years in active work in the Church of God have taught me many lesson s. There is one thing that has been printed on my soul-that this is the work of God., that the law of gathering is one of His laws and must be lived. The law of Celestial marriage is the capital structure. If we fail to live that one law, we cannot go on in eternal lives. And when. I say we fail to live it, I mean 'we fail to do all in our power to live that law. Having done that, then it is the Lord to give us whatever He sees fit. It is up to us to live every law that God has given to us to live. All the laws—law of sacrifice, blood atonement, will be returned to us; I say this in the name of the Lord. If we leave one of them undone, we are guilty of breaking all laws. May the Lord bless us and stimulate us to action. Let the action show by the Lord today be a stimulus to us. May the Lord bless us, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, .Amen.

Choir: "God. of Our Fathers."

Price Johnson (who went to prison) spoke next and said that he was surprised at the growth of the group here. We have all made sacrifices for the Gospel. He spoke of the organization of the Church through Joseph Smith, the preparation of the people for the coming of our Savior, the principle of plural marriage and the principle of united order, the laying down of our lives, if necessary, for the Lord, and that no two men can have a difference of opinion in the Gospel when they are one and united.

Brother D. W.Jeffs;

My Brothers and Sisters when Brother Barlow called my name I had been in a daze. I shall never forget the time when I attended my first meeting of this group. Forty- five years ago I was called by revelation to go on a mission to the Southern states , and at one conference Brother Musser was sent up to attend. That 99

was the first time I met him. He was called upon as the first speaker and spoke on faith. I'll never forget those thrills. I never had greater joy in my soul than when I attended my first meeting with this group. Again Brother Musser was called upon to be the first speaker. He spoke on "Michael our Father and our God. (He related how he used to teach at the 4th Ward and how the doctrine that he was teaching was too strong for some of the people. He was finally displaced.) I do thank God that my own father in 1886, just before the revelation was given To John Taylor and the appearance of the Savior and the Prophet Joseph Smith to President John Taylor that he was thrown in jail for living the principle of Celestial marriage. He crossed. the plains in 1852 by handcart. He not only lived the law and abided the law--he was (Sept. 22 1886) cast in jail. While in the penitentiary he wrote a marvelous record and messengers appeared to him--a record which he was going to take out with him, but the 'officers took it from him and burned it up. I was in an office up town the other day and talked to a bishop on the subject of patriarchal order of marriage. I talked with him for hours, telling him that there was never a marriage in the temple that was valid in the sight of God unless it was sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise. He said "I wonder if I was sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise When I evolved these things to him, he went out of the office hanging his bead because he had recently disfellowshiped a number in his ward, for believing in and living Plural Marriage. The witness of the spirit came to me that this calling of the brethren to the Council, Brother Johnson and Brother Hammon was of God. I stand in wonder at the growth of this group; and I wonder what there is in the hearts of some of these people. There will be many of this group shall fall, away, and others will advance and have the privilege of seeing their elder Brother, Jesus Christ the Son of God.

May God bless us, I ask in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

My Brothers and Sisters, I have been greatly pleased with the testimonies that have been borne this afternoon. I know that this work is true. I know it only through the Spirit of God. When Brother Price Johnson was talking of Brother John Woolley I thought many are the hours I have spent with him. Many things were showed to me then. We have seen many of those things literally fulfilled. I have seen these other men and know that they had the spirit of God upon them. The Holy Ghost is the spirit of prophecy. There are a great many things that I would like to say this afternoon, one is concerning the keys. Brothers and sisters, those keys were conferred upon us

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brethren. None asked for them. All we can do is bear our testimony to you that these things are true and that God has set us apart to see that these thing s are done. "Whatever is bound on earth, is bound in heaven, etc." Brothers and sisters, we are preparing a people, getting them ready. The One Mighty and Strong will come and set the house of God in order. I did not say the church, only as long as it is with the House. What is the House? It is the Priesthood, the Kingdom and, the Church. It cannot be done without the keys of the Priesthood. The keys of Elijah are the keys in their fullness. The only way we can receive the spirit of God am keep it is by obeying all the commandments of God. This plan of salvation must be taken in whole, not in part. You have got to take the whole thing. Joseph Smith said, "You cannot receive the blessings of the law without fulfilling the law." These things are strong when you think of them. They have been here since the time of Adam. "And the arm of the Lord shall be revealed, and the day cometh that they who will not hear the voice of the Lord, neither the voice of his servants, neither give heed to the words of the prophets and apostle s, shall be cut off among the people. For they have strayed from mine ordinances, and have broken mine everlasting covenant." (D. & C. 1:14-15)

President Snow said God gave him his wives and that he would suffer death

before he would. cast them off, and any people who fought that law would be damned. You can only receive the blessing of God by living the laws of God. The only thing for us to do is keep these commandments. The Lord told the Prophet Nephi that he never told. his servants to do a thing unless He prepared a way for them. I want to bear my testimony that I know that this work is true and I know that God does speak from the heavens. God bless you, Amen.

Brother F. M. Darter spoke a few words for himself.

Choir: "Hosanna Anthem." Benediction: Brother Garrett Von Monctfrans. LJAllred.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, June 8, 1941, held at the home of Brother Charles F. Zitting, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.

First Song: "O Ye Mountains High." Prayer: Brother D. W. Jeffs. 101

Second Song: "Earth and Her Ten Thousand Flowers."

Brother Duane Jessop

spoke first and bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel as Joseph Smith revealed it, that there is no question about what we are striving for, and the first principles of the Gospel, that we are striving for the best.

Brother Russell Kunz

spoke next on the necessity of teaching our children, bore his testimony on the truthfulness of the Gospel and the brethren in the Council, and the plan of salvation is taught by them.

Bra. John Buchereit spoke next on how the work of God is progressing, the necessity of striving for the fullness or light, "whether we are humble instruments in God's hands to carry on His work, and bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel.

Tenor Solo: by Brother Alfred Olschewski, "My Prayer."

Brother Rulon T. Jeffs

reported on his trip (with Brother D. W. Jeffs) to speak to the Saints at Cedar City the week before, of the baptism of some of the little children. I learned while there what real sacrifice and struggle to live the Gospel is.

Brother Roy Johnson is a real servant of God in leading the people there. Just to

see the children in shoes that left their feet touching the ground, gave me a feeling of humility. It Brought to my mind that we have got to live the United Order. It seem a shame that we should live better than they. It was a testimony to me in being able to fulfill this assignment. I want to bear you my testimony that I know this is the Lord's work. I know that these brethren behind me are the servants of God. Peter said, "Ye are a royal Priesthood, a chosen people, a pure people." I was standing among the royalty of God down there and I am standing among them here today. We have been called of God to carry on His great work. I pray that we all may have strength to carry on. In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

We have had a feast thus far in this meeting and through the exercise of proper spirit, we may obtain an answer to the prayer that has Brought us here today. I have learned something from each of the speakers. Brother Jessop Brought to us the fact that there is no question about what we are striving for; that nothing 102

but the best is for the true Latter Day Saint. Striving for the best--in other wards trying to go back into the presence of Father. Brother Kunz told us the necessity of teaching our children. It is the work of parents and particularly the work of mothers, since fathers are away from the home and children to such a large degree, that it is the mission of the mothers to teach the children and bring them up into the admonishment of the Lord and to receive higher instructions from the fathers. Brigham Young stressed the necessity of all parents in teaching the children in the way they are to go.

Brother Buchereit has told us the necessity of striving for the fullness of

light, all the laws of God. Some people think the Lord will excuse them for their lack of faith and learning the fullness of the law and preparation to live it.

Brother Jeffs in his wonderful words and report of his visit down South was that 6

or 7 children were baptized. We are raising grain, etc., on the ranch there. Brothers. Jeffs, father and son, were assigned to speak and make observation there. We have learned through this report of the spirit of God and what it can do it can make people happy although they are barefooted, can make them humble though they have few things for dress and to eat. (He then reported on the trip of the brethren of the Council to Idaho and northern Utah and their visit with all the Saint s at various points there.) They had a wonderful spirit. We enjoyed the situation the hardest work was to pull ourselves away from them. I think we did some Good. They are filled with love, the Same everywhere. It is a love borne of Jesus Christ, the love of the Gospel which is a desire to see all men and women grow. It is that love that

Brother Rulon (Jeffs) spoke of today, that no man shall have more than another. I

am sorry that in Salt Lake we don't have the trials and tribulations that they have in the districts. In Brigham Young's day many people had extreme sacrifices. We are penned up in this City and we have the modem conveniences which they don't enjoy generally in the outlying districts. In Short Creek, New Harmony, and Cedar City they are deprived of these modem conveniences and it seems to me that they enjoy more of the Spirit of the Lord and have less to detract from the spirit of the Lord. I know many of you are ready to make the extreme sacrifice when necessary. We have had the spirit of the United Order, which is beginning to show itself in the group the principle of tithing; being born again in our minds and souls. The time has come when this people, if for no other reason than that they are in poverty, that none of us hardly have a surplus of anything, that very fact is bringing us to our knees. I thank God with all my heart that that is the situation--that He is bringing us to our knees and that He will continue to do so, no matter how much we have to suffer, if we can be purified and prepared to live the higher principles of salvation; I say, glory to God! 103

Brigham Young expressed the hope that if our temple should not be built to the glory of God, that he hoped the Lord would destroy it before it was built. He said he rejoiced in his heart when they were driven out of Nauvoo, that the temple had been destroyed, and he praised the Lord. There is one house that hell cannot occupy which we have built; and I praise the Lord when our trials are such as to humble us. As long as we are faithful am true, the Lord would not let us get rich; he would keep us in poverty. The Lord has the earth for us and. we might have had it years ago in 1836 if we had been faithful, and true and we could have it now if we were faithful and true. We have not yet set our feet immovably on the ground; we are wafted to and fro by every bit of gossip, by every wind that blows--it has a great effect upon us. I wonder if the Priesthood Council was appointed for this work. I wonder if the keys of the Priesthood are really with them. These feelings come into our minds and they indicate that we are not stable yet. I rejoice in the testimony of Nephi. His father had a wonderful dream pertaining to the iron rod and tree of life, and he saw his wife Sarah in the vision, his son Sam and Nephi partaking of the tree of life, etc. (I Nephi, Ch. 8) You are all familiar with it. Nephi desired to know for himself and be went to the Lord and asked for the same thing that hi s father had received. He was asked, "Do you believe that your father had that dream, and e said, "Yes, thou knowest I do." So the Lord gave him the similar dream. This is the point I want to bring to your Brothers and sisters, the testimonies you have heard are true but you can find out for yourselves too. Do you know that this is the Priesthood of God on earth? Do you know it is true? Would you give your life for it if necessary? Can we know it? Yea, just as definitely as Nephi received the dream he desired. He lived up to all the light that God had given him. That is all any of us will have to do to get our testimony strengthened to get a testimony that cannot be shaken and make us the elect and place us above the things of the world. Do we know that our Redeemer lives? Are we strong enough that like Peter we would permit ourselves to be killed on the cross? Like Paul, like James, like Joseph who voluntarily went to jail? Are we strong enough? Yet it is within our power to know that Christ lives. Yes, We know by the power of the spirit and the testimony of others. I know it is strong enough to say that I have a knowledge that China exists, but if I were able to be there and see it, then I would have a stronger definite knowledge that that country exists. Until we have mingled with Him, until we have had His hand s laid upon our beads, we will not be the strength unto the Lord that it is intended we should. I feel to urge these thing s, my Brothers and sisters. There is not a person in the house who cannot have that testimony. Is it worth the effort? We sometimes talk about sacrifices. We would give a handful of soil to build a world and we say 104

it is a sacrifice. We give a few hours and then talk about it being a sacrifice and expect to gain by it. There was not a time in the history of the world when the power of the world in destruction had so much sway. The time is near at hand when we will have to make sacrifices. Some of us are falling away now. Why? Because of the lack of testimony. The y are spiritually lazy and a Sleep when it comes to seeking the higher order of heaven we are alert on how to play games, dance, etc. We are alert in those things: How to dress socially nice; how to use proper words; but when it comes to seeking the Kingdom of God in its righteousness, and like Nephi to learn how to take hold of the iron rod and keep it we are lazy as a people and we are not taking advantage of the opportunities we have--the tree of life. What is the tree? It is life; it is a tree of celestial marriage; the tree that gives us the opportunity to go on and on throughout the eternities and build up our kingdoms, and build up worlds. That is the tree of life. Lots of people are ashamed of it. I was asked the other day by some people what to do. They were being cut off the church. I told. them to stay as long-as they can. They are afraid. to have mail from us come to them; they are afraid to come to see me in the day time. "Know the truth and the truth shall make you free." Why make you free? Because if you know the truth you will not be afraid of your oppressors.

God bless you, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

Brigham Young said this is one principle I wish the people would understand. Instead of pleading with the Lord to give you more, plead with yourselves to be prepared for what the Lord has to give you. That to be obtained through your integrity y. I do not want to know about the sins of this people, at least no more than I have to. Confess your sins to them whom you have sinned against, etc." There is just one other thing: I was impressed wonderfully while on our trip up North (Idaho and northern Utah) on the principle of tithing. It takes just so much to have the work of this group go on. We have got to have means to have the work of truth go on. "Celestial Marriage" is out of print and we need money to print more. Some people say they are too poor to pay tithing. One man borrowed money to pay tithing and when the time came to pay his debt, God opened the way. We do want means to build up the Kingdom of God. "The Coming Crisis" and others we would like to put out, but we have no way at present to do it. "For he that is tithed shall not be burned." (D. & C. Sec. 64:23) In the days of Noah the Lord destroyed the earth with water, and this time He is going to destroy it with file. Are we prepared? We have been trying to live 105

the United Order for five years. Brothers and sisters, if you will go down and meet the men who have remained firm and steadfast, you won't think it has been a flop. I want to say to you, you are going to be tried. President Kimball said,. "A test, a test, a test, is coming to you." It is here now. What is that test? The people are leaving off the exalting principles of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, those in the Church. We are called apostates. Apostasy is turning from a principle. Is there any princlple that we Saints have turned from? Words of Paul (I Timothy 4:l), "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the lather times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared as with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, etc." I have had men try to dissuade me. Brothers and sisters, I had to have it be made known to me before I would go on in this work. I know that this work is true and that it is going on. Many of the people here today will see God's work roll on faster than it ever did before, and you will see the United Order lived. God never gave a law that was not essential and that was not necessary to live for our exaltation. You cannot live one law and reject another and get there. Jesus said: "If you live a part of the law, and forget the whole, you will be left outside." It is so hard to get this through the minds of this people. Now Brothers and sisters, serve the Lord with all your might, mind and strength. Turn for the Good now while you can. The Lord told me to tell you people to get the Spirit of God around you. You will need it. Peace be with you, in the name of Jesus Christ . Amen.

Vocal Trio: "Prayer Perfect" by Myrtle, Athlene and Leona Allred.

Closing Song: "Praise to the Man."

Benediction: Brother G. L. Dockstader.

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Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, June 22, 1941, held at the home of

Brother Chas. F. Zitting, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah,

2:00 p.m.

Brother Chas. F. Zitting presided.

Brother Mari an Hammon conducted.

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First Song: "For the Strength of the Hills." Prayer: Brother J". Marston. Second Song: "We Thank Thee O God for a Prophet."

Brother G. L. Dockstader:

Like Job of old, that which I feared came upon me. We are living in the most momentous times of this earth. Notice the conditions of the world today, and. Germany has declared war on Russia. We have been cut off the church, but we discuss here many strong points of doctrine which the church does not teach now. I am glad to be numbered with you people. I feel that we are fed the bread of life; that we are on the road to progression. We hear in the world lots of people making prophecies, but in this group of people it matters not how many people prophesy; the thing is we must do that which must be done to gain eternal life--salvation. We-are God's covenanted people. When the Lord called Abraham out of the country of Chaldea to the promised land, he told Abraham that he was chosen before he was born to be a guide unto those people; and there were many who were chosen to be His rulers. (P. off G.P. ,Abr. 3: 22-23) We must hearken unto the voice of the Lord. A woman once asked the question of John Taylor, "Where did I come from?, What am I doing here? Whither am I going? And what is my destiny after having obeyed the truth, if faithful in the end?" (The Vision, p. 145) We come to this earth to be tried in the furnace, to work out an exaltation and gain eternal lives. "Straight is the path and narrow the gate, and few there be that find it." (He then told a story of a person who had the privilege of going to the other side, concerning the different churches and denominations.) My testimony to you Brothers and sisters is that we are lead by the right authority. If the authority of God is right as is taught, we are led by the only authority on earth today. I further testify that the chain of authority in the Priesthood has been traced to the present ones here through John Woolley. I pray that we may unite; that we will go on. I feel the time will be short when two will be working at a wheel and one will be taken and one 'Will be left. May we cling fast to the iron rod that leads to life eternal, I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Song : "Beyond Today" by ladies of the group.

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(recently arrived from New York) spoke next and bore his testimony and told of one-third of his family who would leave New York tomorrow morning for Salt Lake, of the sacrifices they made to have the Priesthood Council go to New Yolk and the blessings they had received in return. He spoke of preaching the fullness of the gospel to his aunt here in Salt Lake, how difficult it is for foreign people to find books to read on the fullness of the Gospel and the doctrines of truth, on overcoming our faults, and that we must have daily repentance, faith and humility; and he hoped to increase his knowledge in the Gospel and that he would worthy constantly of the direction of the Priesthood.

Brother Axel Fors

bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel as lived by Joseph Smith, and the United Order; we would be in jail if we had the whole truth revealed to us and lived it. How can we show our faith without our work s; we must do it. He mentioned that the Prophet said if we don't overcome our weaknesses when we die, those weaknesses will rise with us. We must cease finding fault, but look to ourselves.

Song: "We Love Our Work" by the ladies of the group.

Brother Chas. F. Zitting:

I need your faith. and prayers, not only this afternoon, but every day. After this day is over, we must pray for one another, not just on Sunday. One thing I noticed when I got back to New Yolk on our trip--we have the same moon shining there as we have shining here. I also noticed something else that we have in common there and here--the same evil spirits and the same Good spirits. We met brethren that we had never met before, yet when we met them they were as dear to us as if we bad known them all our lives. We met the devil there too and we had him to fight there too. Christ and God are one and they are the same here and there. The agents of God are the same. We have a great privilege in living the Gospel of Jesus Christ and in associating with one another and the agents of God. Brother Lorin 'Woolley said there isn't a privilege that is given to those on earth but what there is a responsibility that goes with the privilege; and there isn't a responsibility given to the Saints on earth but what there is a privilege given. We often feel that we are sunk, but we will get cut of the tight box if we pray and work. God comes to our rescue. I don't fear but what the Lord will come to our rescue all the time if we are faithful. The Lord said "If you will do my will, I am bound"

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It is only with the hand of the Lord that we can go on in this law from day to day. The Lord tries us. There is one thing that I do want to be found about me when this life ends whether I accomplish any more or not; that is that I will still be making big plans, I 'will still hold to that youthful enthusiasm. Do not lose that faith and you will continue to grow through this life and the life to come. I ask you to continue to pray for one another from day to day. It is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Marion Hammon:

When Brother Olschewski's family leaves New Yolk you can look far that city to begin to fall. You can mark my words, for the spirit of the Lord-directs me to say it. It will not be many months until the judgments of God will fall.

Closing Song: "True to the Faith".

Benediction: Brother.T. R. Dockstader.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, July 27, 1941, held at home of Brother Chas. F. Zitting, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.

First Song: ''How Firm a Foundation." Prayer: Brother Joseph S. Jessop. Second Song: "Earth and Her Ten Thousand Flowers."

Announcements.

Brother Axel Fors:

was the first speaker and said that he feels that this is the powerful people that the scriptures tell us about; we are blessed because we have the opportunity of becoming gods, priests, etc., and we must do all things that the Lord has commanded in order to accomplish this. Have we got courage to live the laws that will bring us to the Celestial Kingdom?, Are we willing to lay down our lives if necessary? (He then read a poem from the Truth, Vol. 5, No.4, p. 96, "Thinking" by Edgar A. Guest.) That is Mormonism, even if it wasn't a Mormon who wrote it.

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I am glad that I have been made acquainted with the doctrines that this group believe in. We must study to be able to preach, but also depend upon the Lord. We must acquaint ourselves with the word of the Lord.

Brother John Smith

(of Santaquin) spoke next and said the question s most asked out in the world are, "Where are your horns?" and "How many wives have you?" (His grandfather Robert Smith, wrote the "Signs of the Times".) We know what we should do, but how many of us keep the commandments as we should? , We are promised that if we keep God's commandments we will be taken care of. I don't think there is a people like those of this group in the world.

Brother D. W. Jeffs:

My brethren and sisters, as I stand before you this afternoon I pray in my heart for the Spirit of God to be with me and for an interest in your faith and prayers, because in standing before you I am only an instrument through which the spirit of the Lord may direct words which are the bread of life to you here today. I had an impression that I would be called upon to speak, and then it left me. There have been thoughts pass through my mind of the first meeting that I attended of this group. It was all new to me as far as the operations of the group were concerned, and I was thinking today in Sunday School what a wonderful progression has taken place since that time. I see a great number of new faces and some of the old ones have fallen away. How easy it is for us to be tempted and drawn away from the truth by the spirit of evil. Everyone of us is subject to temptations of the devil, and according to Joseph Smith, it must needs be that the people of the earth be tempted, because without that they could not be an agents unto themselves; for it is through obedience to the laws of God that we become perfect. I couldn't help thinking of the first Sunday School of the group that I attended. There were just about enough present then to fill one-half of this roam. This morning there were enough to fill these three rooms. We talk about progression--it is that which is done in an organized capacity-to gain eternal life. If you walk on Second South you will see a number of dead men, because of their sins. One thing is, while the Doctrine and Covenant s tells us the people of Zion will be judges of all things pertaining to man,( yet the whole thing is predicated on one thing, namely: (from Joseph Smith) "No man (or woman) is capable of judging another unless his heart is pure etc. If I consider one of the greatest parasites among any group of people is judging unrighteously. It may be from different

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sources, but how easily and quickly the things that are said are caught up by certain persons and kept traveling and exaggerated. It is what I call a hyperbole. I have felt recently, after having gone through a blueness and depression in my feelings, in my soul, surrounding the people with whom I have been associating, and even this group, I could hardly pray. There is only one thing to do; that is to have an eye single to the glory of God, and keep praying until we do get an answer to our prayers. The other night I prayed all night and the next day I was impressed to take a certain course and I took it. "There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated--And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated." (D. &. C. 130:20-21) A bishop who I talked to said, "I am a product of that law (polygamy), but I will take that course when the law comes back." I told him that law was never taken away, and he said, "What about the Manifesto?" I said, "Does it say that that law was to be done away with?" He answered, "'Well, the church says so." I said, "Has the Lord ever given a revelation 'beginning with "To Whom It May Concern"? He then asked me if I had entered into that law. I answered him, yes, and that I was thankful to God for it. He asked what about the President of the church. I said, "Do not put your trust in the arm of flesh, but put your trust in God only. After talking further wit h him and quoting other references, the bishop was so confused, but the next time he saw me he came up shook hands with me. He is one who sat in judgment upon excommunication of one of the brethren in this house today. I was told in my patriarchal blessing years ago that I would preach the Gospel to the people of the earth. I thank God, my Brothers and sisters, that through the inspiration of the Lord I have taught many people the fullness of the Gospel.

Brother Lund and the peeping tom.

(He related the story of the wife of a young man to whom he administered and she was cured almost instantly of cancer. Yet the y have fallen away now. Referred to I Nephi 8--the iron rod and the tree of life. These are some of the reflections that have passed through my mind. I want to thank God from the bottom of my heart for the knowledge given me I must add temperance to my knowledge and through prayer the spirit of truth has permeated my soul and it has Brought this understanding to me--that as far as man himself is concerned, he is nothing without God and His Spirit. It is wonderful to see and be with the people of this group. A great work will be performed by this people; even resurrected being s will appear to them to help perform their work in the temples, many of these young men and women will live the laws of God and go on and even

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attain to a point where they will see the face of the Savior. Others will fall away and be lost. We must get away from the avariciousness and selfishness that is in us. Do you think God is selfish? Never. Until we overcome these things, we will never accomplish a step toward exaltation on the other side, and after we have repented. and gone on step by step to learn principles of exaltation, after we have passed through the veil we will still have a long way to go. As Brother Barlow said, we are a good people but we are not good enough. I am thankful from the bottom of my heart for the understanding and knowledge of who holds the keys of the Priesthood and the sealing power. I received a promise just 40 years ago that I would stand in the presence of king s and queens of the earth. It meant the noble king s and queens in the Priesthood and I know within my soul that it is true. I thank God that I can reach these brethren and I can talk with them and get wonderful counsel. from them. That comes from the meek of the earth. I thank the Lord for the testimony I have and I pray God to bless us. I want to say that right at our doors is a time when we are going to be tried. Will we be able to stand the test? Orson F. Whitney when he saw the Savior in vision asked if he may go with Him when his mission on earth was done and the Savior answered, "That, my son, depends on you yourself." I thank God that we have the sisters who are doing a marvelous work, these noble women who are helping the poor and needy and carrying on their work. The Savior would never have said, "Follow me" unless He had abided all the laws of God himself. May God bless us all I ask in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen....

Brother Roy Johnson:

I assure you that I feel my weakness in standing before you this afternoon. I pray that I may say something to you led by the spirit of God. There have been many reflections pass through my mind while the others were speaking. My mind wandered back to some of the prophecies that have been given to us in the e last days. Secretary Ickes recently made a statement that before long the markets would not have the things that we need. Brother Heber C. Kimball said he would like to see the Latter Day Saint s take a course mere they could make their own cooking utensils, far the time will come men we will not be able to buy these things. It looks like, Brothers and sisters, that that time is here. When the leading men of the nations tell us that this time has came when we will be out of material, it is time that we were doing something about it. The Lord has said that the wicked will be swept off the face of the earth to make room for the Ten Tribes of Israel. 112

And the time has also came when the Lord will raise a righteous people to carry on His work. That time is here. Our children will put over what the Lord has been trying to put over through His people since the beginning of the earth. We must teach these children correct principles. We have a chance. The Lord has put forth His hand for the second time to redeem His people of the earth, and we are here for that purpose. The Lord is trying to bring this people around that He might raise a righteous people unto Himself, "that His will may be fulfilled. I bear you my testimony that these things are true and it is up to us to see that they go over. I ask God s blessings upon you, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

We have had much to reflect upon, and if we would live up to the counsel that has been given, we would all be better Latter Day Saints. It is an inspiration to stand before an audience like this. All parts of the building seem to be filled up and the indications are that we are trying to get the word of the Lord. We came here to be fed. People do not drive long distances to stay in a warm building for hours just for the fill of it. We came here to get the word and will of the Lord. I take it that that was the purpose of most of us here today. We are frequently confronted with the inference that we are fighting the church. It is a wonderful way to fight the church--teaching the truth, teaching the Gospel as it has been revealed in this dispensation. A woman came to me the other day and she was impressed by the publications that we have been putting out. She was so impressed that she went to the church offices to get the expressions of the church. She went to Brother Clawson who gave her the impression that the information she had read was all right, but he said they are fighting the church and he invited her to go to one of the other apostles. This apostle began to condemn us and the Truth Magazine. "Aren't they true?" she asked. "Well," he said, "here they quote certain things (he bad a Truth in front of him) and then they put stars in. Those stars-mean something is left out. If they did quote the whole thing then the matter might be different. When she came back to me and told me of this, I opened a book written by Brother Widstoe and showed her where there were stars indicating he bad left certain things out. To think that an apostle of the church could offer no better criticism than that; it is ridiculous. All the writers of the church have, stars in their writings where they have left something out. It is a common practice of the church. If we quoted all parts of quotations, we would not have magazine room. If the readers want to go further into the matter read, they are privileged to go to the reference given and read further the information given.

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In the Bible we read of John the Beloved, John the Brother of Jesus Christ, John who took care of the wives of Jesus after the crucifixion. He was banished on the Isle of Patmos after having been placed in a cauldron of boiling oil and the Spirit of the Lord enveloped him and the oil did not hurt him. And now he is on the earth working with the Ten Lost Tribes in the eastern hemisphere. (John 1:5-10) "'God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth; But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us". Now, who is there here today who is willing to call God the Father a liar? Yet that is what we do when we say we have not sinned. (John 2:1-17) "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. But if any man sin and repent, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; etc." Now Brothers and sisters, I want to leave that with you today. As Brother John said, we are Good but not Good enough. If we do not use our talents each day we are going back and not going forward. Brigham Young said if we fail to live the laws in this probation, it will be harder to do them in the next probation. It is our duty, our privilege, our opportunity; sometimes we get the idea that we are favoring our Lord by being Good. That is not true. Our Brother, Jesus Christ, loves us and He is the Lord of this earth at the present time; He is not the Jehovah at the present time. He is the one who will be the Jehovah when the earth is sanctified. God loves us, but He does not love our sins, our tendency to scatter reports about each other. Sometimes I feel almost like our work has been a failure when I hear of rumors and gossip that is going around. Oh, that I had the tongue of an angel and could pierce your tongues and your hearts to the quick, to pierce the weakness we have of talking about each other and. broadcasting it. How glorious I would feel if we could overcome that weakness in ourselves. Criticize yourself. Look in, instead of out; then we would begin to grow and increase. A great many of us want blessings and are not prepared for blessings. Why? Because you cannot keep your own counsels. God cannot trust you. In plain words, you cannot be trusted. An incident happened recently where within 24 hours after a blessing was given they were blatting it on the street. they were putting it down a rat hole.

Brother Jeffs said some people think we do not have to live the fullness of

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the rest of the holy men who have lived throughout the ages, unless they have lived the same law that they lived. There is no such a thing as monogamy in heaven. God established Celestial and Plural marriage, the law of Abraham; and because Abraham lived that law, through him all the people of the earth will be blessed. That is the only law of heaven. Do you think Joseph would come here and enter that law and give his life if it was not necessary? The angel came three times and the third time he told Joseph that law has got to be established; if he did not live it, God would raise or find another who would do it. Joseph said, "But they will take my life." The answer was, "Yes, it has got to be taken. The law cannot be established any other way." Christ gave His life. Are you any better than He. Anybody who thinks that he is going into the bosom of Abraham without complying with that law and doing everything on earth to comply with it, cannot do so. We have got to live the law of Celestial glory to get to the Celestial exaltation. If you do not want to get to that glory, you can do anything that you want. I feel very-humble today and desirous s of helping you. Oh, if I could only get my heart's desires over to you sisters and Brother People want more revelation there is a whole world of revelation. God informs us that all the revelations from the time of Adam are ours when we are ready for them. There are mountains and mountains of records men we are ready for than; but we have got to get ready and live what has been given to us. God is not going to fool with this people. We are going to see a time when we will not be able to get the things that we think we have to have. The Lord may have to rain manna from heaven. Speaking of the aluminum that they are asking for down here on Main Street, as soon as they have cleaned you out of what you have, they will send men around to sell you new aluminum. That is the way of the world in building up business and getting your money. God bless you. Let us try and overcome this one thing--learn to keep our own counsels; learn not to spread gossip and reports. I believe we would be justified in cutting our tongues out if necessary to accomplish that one thing. The Lord would consider it worth noticing and would praise us for it. None I hope you want go and cut your tongues out. I just want you to live up to these things and impress it upon you. God bless you, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

My Brothers and sisters, I just want to bear testimony of the things that have been said today. We have had wonderful teachings given today, but has it gone to our hearts? I wonder how many took that home, what has been said.

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Doe s it go into our hearts? I just want to quote what the old prophets say: "Because I have called unto you and you have refused, and I stretched forth my hand, because you did not choose the fear of the Lord, etc." Are we going to be in that condition. What is this life for anyway? We are struggling to get good clothes, homes etc., but every bit of it is perishable. The great thing that we want is eternal life. God has showed the road, yet we go along, go to sleep and run off the main track. I am talking to this group, not the church. I want you to know it and turn and serve God and keep His commandment s, and His Spirit will be around you. If you don't, the world will be around you and against you. We talk about prophets prophesying; When a man prophesies he sees down through the signs of time. He is not walking in darkness. That is what we want you people to do--be able to see and stand. God bless you, Amen.

Closing Song: "Now Let Us Rejoice." Benediction: Brother Chas. F. Zitting. LTAllred.

Minutes Sunday afternoon Meeting, Aug. 10, 1941, held at home of

Brother Louis Kelsch, 4250 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah,

2:00 p.m.

Brother Joseph W. Musser presided.

Brother Marion Hammon conducted.

First Song: "Come Let Us Anew" Prayer: Brother Marvin Allred Second Song: "Oh Thou Kind and Gracious Father"

Brother Hammond greeted the congregation.

Brother John Buchereit:

The Lord has blessed this nation and the people greatly. We have many things to be thankful for. There is a great danger in this security --carnal security. We have forgotten the purpose for which we are here. Will the Lord bless us in the future as he has in the past? The Lord is just. He promises us he will continue to bless us according to the way we keep his commandments. We are despised and cast out for our belief in the fullness of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ which the early apostles lost their lives for. We have not under gone persecutions so far, but will things continue in be this way. Do we expect the great blessings of the Lord to came upon us and continue to be with us indefinitely unless we repent and remember the covenants we have made with Him? One of the laws is, for everything you get you will have to pay the price. We may have to suffer a little 116

persecution, but it is suffering that purifies, in which we can see the crown as well as the cross. If we do have to suffer for the Gospel, we should rejoice in our hearts we are on the true path. I am thankful to "the Lord that He has given me the trials I have had. As far as I am murmured, I want to confess my weaknesses before you. I am thankful for the Gospel as the Lord ms revealed it in these Latter Days and for every :revelation that He has given to the Prophet; that He has seen fit to gather me out of many thousands and found me worthy of partaking of these blessings. One of the great principles which he has restored is celestial marriage. When first revealed t a Joseph Smith, he hesitated to adopt this principle, but he was not . a coward. He revealed the principle to a few of his friends. It was not to be uttered from the housetops until a later date. He stood alone and faced the whole world. The Prophet said, "They accuse me of polygamy and of being a false prophet, etc." I rejoice greatly to see this group of people who are keeping this principle alive I pray to the Lord to give me strength to keep up with my belief. May we all have the burning desire and realize the fight for truth is real, as the evil one is fighting us.

Solo -Brother Sam Denos -"My Father Knows"

Brother Morris Kunz:

It will yet cost some of the best blood of the race to establish the principles that we are fighting for. The Lord has shown me things along this line. On occasions like this, we feel that we have no hard feelings, but in our daily lives the spirit leaves us and we talk and back-bite and show the bad side of· ourselves.

Don Wayman: I believe the Gospel is true and intend to live it when I have the opportunity. I hope to be worthy and faithful enough, and know that as far as I go the Lord will be with me in righteousness. I pray the Lord will bless us that we may continue to remain faithful and try to work out our own salvations and remain true to the things that we believe.

Marion Hemmon: They call us polygamists. A lot of us are monogamists trying to live plural marriage. If people were really polygamous they would be able to live that way. Coming out of Babylon as we have done, seconded with all the traditions of our parent s, we are handicapped in our attempting to practice family life on such a broad scale.

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Those are some of my feelings. If any mm thinks he has the right and privilege to decide who and where his family are going to stand in his eyes, I think he is mistaken. God the Eternal Father has given man wives to see what he will do with then, for as Brigham Young said, "If a man has been given two, three or four wives, he has been given them to see what he will do with them. And if a man happens to get a wife in his family close to him, he has no right to say "You will be mine". I feel, Brothers and sisters, in a few weeks we will come out of our present· conditions in a better spirit than we are. We have had troubles in our families, and it might be a Good thing for the saints to take a little inventory as to how they have come out under their trials. Maybe we ought to do a little repenting.

Brother Charles Zitting:

I don't know whether you people are praying for me or not, but I have been praying secretly. If we get up and give a d:iscourse and it is Good for only one in the congregation, the time is well spent. A person's life has very often been changed completely just by one discourse. I have known in one of our meetings that one discourse has changed the life of one our brethren entirely. "It is a great responsibility to stand before a congregation and take up there time. Therefore a person should not take up time or even talk unless he has something to say. I hope I can have your faith and prayers, that the Lord will bless me. I think we have got to have faith in one another. I have seen other times when we have met with a few people and they have asked me questions and they knew that the answers would come. I have received answers to some problems in that very way. That is the faith we should have in one another. If you have faith that you will get it, you will; if you don't, you won't . In living the Gospel of Jesus Christ the nearer live to the principles the more I know they are true. The farther you get away from them, the less you know. The prophet said, "If anything has Good results, it comes from a Good source if evil, etc." Take a wife who rebels against her husband in this. principle, for example. She becomes miserable a s well as her husband. I have seen the Lord fight our battles in times when we had nothing left to do. I saw one time this last week when the Lord worked it out beautifully. The

Brother *** calling upon the Lord now, but when I wasn't in distress I called upon

him, every morning noon and night. Yes, that is why things came out for him. He prayed between times. I know that he is a humble man, and the home is a humble one. Once something said to me: "Go 100 miles to this Brother's home." He needed me badly. When I left that house, some of the most beautiful spirits were 118

there, and some of those spirit went home with me in my automobile. That family is living the Gospel right. There are times, Brothers and Sisters, when we feel that we don't need the Lord. We need Him every day of our lives. Ask the Lord to help you and be with you, even when you don't need him. The Lord has never failed me once. There may be times when you think He isn't coming to your aid, but He knows best what you need and we find it out later. (Here gave a chemistry example proving this statement.) After a theory is proved, it become s a law. If you try the Lord and it comes out that He blesses you every time it, becomes a science. You will find that what He says is true. Can He bless you without those blessings being Good for you? If He sees isn't a Good thing for us when we ask for it, It is because the blessing wouldn't be a blessing to us. If we live worthy of what we ask for then we will get it. Remember your prayers and call upon Him, and know that it is the Grace of God. This is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ.

Solo -"Face to Face" by A. A. Timpson

Brother Joseph W. Musser

Read from 1st Corinthians, Page 197, Paul speaks on Charity.

Louis Kelsch: I know, Brothers and sisters when Marion was speaking about women being the first wives. How distressing it is to some women that they cannot be the first wives. When you were married to one wife, the first one, she was given to you on condition that you will "live all the laws." That is the condition upon which we live one law. Regarding making our calling and elections sure, Joseph Smith knew what it meant and told the people to go ahead and live all the laws. A Brother cannot get to the Celestial Kingdom until he makes hi s calling and election sure. If a first wife makes her calling and election sure, then she will inherit Celestial glory. Until we receive word from heaven that our calling am election is made sure, then we are not saved. When the Lord tells us that we have an abode with Him in that Kingdom, then our calling am election will be made sure. Our measure is in material things, but to see if we can live the Celestial laws and be subject to the same things that celestial beings do. We can kick and Bello all we want, but we won't be saved unless we comply with the laws that will save us.

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It is a mighty serious business that we are engaged in. What makes it hard is that we are so week and so mortal. It isn't the living of the laws of God that makes us fail --it is the failure to live them. Being mortal, as we are, we all have to fight against the things that cause us to run when we know better I do things wrong when I know better, and I do things that I felt ashamed of myself, when I do them. I am speaking a little from my own experience. I want to do better and I want that spirit that will help me to do better. We must keep humble. If we fail we are not satisfied with ourselves; it helps to keep us humble. People can't be saved without humility. One with worldly pride cannot be saved. It is quite a thing to see all these people sit in the rain. In my memory a picture flashed back to the days of Brigham Young. We are a blessed people, and we will know some day how blessed we are above those that are living on the earth. And we will know just how many blessings we can have if we live worthy. There have been dispensations when the Gospel has been taken away, but it will not be taken away from us. It is here to stay. I love you people, and I am glad to have you here on my place. May the Lord bless you, that we can keep together, that we can go upward as a body. May the Lord bless us to hang together, that we will not hang separately. I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Marion Hammon:

How many of you pray for the Kingdom of God to be established? How nearly are we prepared in live that way? Quoted from John Taylor, from J of D. Vol. 17 wherein it says: "We remember time very well when we were Brought to this Church, etc." "That is how far we were able to live. When we are really cut off, we will know that we are cut off. We have come under the Government of God and God expects our strict and full obedience.

I think, Brothers and sisters, we have been together long enough.

Closing Song: "Parting Hymn"

Prayer: Duane Jessop.

Minutes Sunday afternoon Meeting, August 24, 1941, held at the home of Louis A. Kelsch, 4204 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah , at 2: 00 p.m. 120

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted

First Song: "The Spirit of God" Prayer: Brother Robert Shrewsberry Second Song: "We are Watchers"

Brother Barlow;

We have with us Brother Fischer from California and Brother· Holm from Idaho and Brother Jessop from Cedar City and Brother Morrison from Arizona.

Brother Carl Fischer:

Told of his pleasure in being with the saints, that he was moving his family to Salt Lake and intended coming here himself in the spring. He Brought greetings from Los Angeles, and said that 'little by little the families are moving to Zion from the Coast. "Take courage. Don't forget that the Father still hears and answers our prayers. He is the same forever -the same today and tomorrow and every day.

Fred Morrison: Told of his experience in Phoenix, how he was led to visit with a Brother there. The Lord works in a mysterious way, His wonders to perform. Cited Joseph's being sold into Egypt for the purpose of preparing a place for the House of Israel, of Moses in leading the Children of Israel out of the land of Egypt, and the Lord's leading than into the Land of Promise. Every effort was made to put Christ away, to stop the Lord's work Christ called the apostles to Him and said I give unto you the keys of heaven, etc.' They tried to put the Prophet Joseph to death to stop the work at the Lord. Things are not going so well in the Church now, and they are trying to do away with the principles of the Gospel that the Lord commanded us to obey.

Richard Jessop: "I am delighted to see this congregation this afternoon. The spirit here is a contrast to the spirit anywhere else. I do have a testimony as to the truthfulness of the work we are engaged in. I would rather lose my life than to lose my faith in this work. I don't know how to appreciate enough. the privilege of associating with the men we are privileged to mingle with these men of God. I am thankful for the teachings that I received from my parents and friends and associates. I can't remember the time of my life when my parents and grandparents did not uphold the principle that we are engaged in. "(Here cited the incident of Esau' s selling his birthright for a mess of pottage. ) 121

"It was their prayer, Brothers and sisters, that we as individuals and as a body might more fully conform ourselves to the things that will bring us the desires of our hearts. I pray the blessings of the Lord on us.

Carl Holm: I wonder if we appreciate all the Lord's Goodness to us. Do we take advantage of the privileges we have in associating with the Priesthood? As true Latter Day Saints, what is our duty and privilege? It is to study the Gospel, learn it and teach it and live it. We have a mission to perform. The Priesthood Counsel has a mission to direct the work of the Lord on earth. "I am glad to see some young people here. It always does me Good to see young people seek after the work of the Spirit. What is there here for us? The true Gospel of Jesus Christ the things that will make us happy in a spiritual and eternal way. I want to admonish the young people to take advantage of the classes that you have the privilege of attending. There is so much Good that is imparted there. "I am thankful to my Heavenly Father for the privilege of coming among you. The Spirit of the Lord is here today; it follows you and accompanies you in your daily walks of life. If we are one in spirit and one in objective, we will arrive at the place where we want to arrive. l bring you greetings from the families in Idaho. I pray Heavenly Father to be with us all; that we may take advantage: of the privileges we have.

Brother Marion Hammon:

Told of his recent trip to Idaho, that the crops were heavy and abundant, the farmers were building granaries and men are trying to put plenty of grain on their own properties. The saints up there are striving more diligently to receive the Spirit of God and the Gospel one saint there said, "I have been unable to find anything to disprove the work of this people." (The group). "The prophecies in that part of the country are come to fulfillment." Here he related experience e of the high counsel who took action on the brethren and were now quarreling among themselves. I am reminded of one other thing -many of the saints, that is, the faith of the saints is pinned upon personalities. I mention that many are pinning their faith on Brothers John and Joseph. We should not become so narrow in the faith that we can't stand when they are gone." (Here gave examples when Pres. Grant goes, they will damn near all go.") Act upon the ;principles of God, and act upon the principles of Heaven. You are on very dangerous ground if you marry in this principle just for the love of the man; you are barrowing trouble. When you have to act upon the arm of flesh 122

instead of the Spirit of God and his work, you are borrowing trouble. These are my feelings. "We must rally around the Gospel and not on personalities."

Brother J. Y. Barlow;

If my throat will allow me, there are a few things I would like to say this afternoon. I wonder how many of you know who you are? Where did you come from: Why are you here? Of what lineage are you? Why are you living like you are living? How many of you know it? I want to give you people a few things today. Pres. Young said, 'This is the mission that was given to us; it was the mission that was given to Joseph, etc. Take the elders in this house, and you can scarcely find one but is of the house of Israel. It has been rumored that the Gentiles have been cut off. Will we go to the gentile nations and preach the Gospel? Yes, and gather Israelites, etc." At the death of Solomon, Rehaboam took the throne, and when the people asked if he was going to tax them the old men told them, No, but the young men said, where he had whipped them with whips, that he would whip them with scorpions, and they rebelled. "Reheboam kept the throne of Judah, but Jeroboam, the son of Nebat, one of Solomon's captains, took over the rest of the sons of Israel, and from then on there were two kingdoms, Judah and the Children of Israel. The children of Israel were taken captive down to Assyria and there they remained for a number of years, finally going off to the north country. There is one tribe who did not go with them - -Ephraim. rebelled and mixed through all the nations of the earth. Now the Elders have gathered Ephraim and Brought him home. That is who you people are Ephraim from the blood of Joseph. We are of the House is Israel --of the royal seed of the royal blood. "We had a map this morning showing us a few things. When Ephraim took over, the Lord gave him a special blessing: 'In you and your seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed. ' "Now think, if you are of the pure blood of Israel, you will accept these truths. If you don't, you are not living up to the measure of your creation. You are not living up to what the Lord said. He said, in looking over these spirits, that some were noble and great ones. These, He said, I will make my rulers. Reuben defiled his father's house, and Levi was taken out, and Ephraim was placed at the head in Reuben's place and Manasseh in Levi's, and they have come on down. I just wanted to touch upon that some of you might start to think, and ask God's blessings on you, and ask you to consider who you are and why you are here, is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.. 123

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

Brother Hammon has given us something to wake us up. Brother Barlow

has given us too balance of it. Who are we? What are we here for? "Some of us seem to think that because of Lehi's sons married in the family of' Ishmael, who was an Ephraimite while Lehi was of' Manasseh, that that made them half' Ephraim and half' Manasseh. That is the position that some of the brethren and sisters take. But that is not the case. You get your lineage trough the sire. The Lamanites have not are not accepting the Gospel--a very few of them have. There's whole nations of them -thirty million down in the Central America country who are not accepting the Gospel, because the Gospel is to Ephraim and not to Manasseh at the present time, but when the Lord open s up the way for Manasseh there will be a nation born in a day, and those nations down in Mexico and South America will embrace the Gospel as nations. Thousands and thousands will come in, in a day, and they are going to come up here and fight the battles for Ephraim. Ephraim is here to give the blessings to the 10 Tribes when they come down from the north. They will come to Ephraim. why? Because Ephraim is the patriarchal head of Israel. I am the patriarchal head of my family. Who is going to give my family blessings? Because I am of Ephraim, and if I am faithful and true through my Father's offspring because I was at one time placed at the lead, and that is the reason the Ten Tribes and. Manasseh will come here and receive their blessings at the hands of Ephraim. Because Ephraim is the great patriarchal head of that family, that is a blessing that will not be taken away from him, because Israel is going to remain faithful and true and you are Israel and that is the reason you. are here in this congregation today. "Some of you have more of the blood of Ephraim than others. We are not all endowed with the same gifts and blessing s, but we are all given the Spirit of the Lord and can give that to others. The keyword of this meeting today has been humility. It is a wonderful subject to contemplate. That is the essence of the Gospel -humility. Jesus had among his disciples those who were ambitious –they wanted to be at the head. One woman wanted her two sons to be at the head, one to sit on the right side of Christ and the other on the other and wanted Jesus to make that covenant with her. He said you don't know what you are talking about. They cannot take the cup I have to drink out of. And when they were wondering who was the greatest, the Lord Brought out a child and said, "He that becomes as a little child is the greatest in the Kingdom of God" and unless you do that, you never can see the Kingdom. Here Brother Musser gave the example of the leper who asked Elisha to help him and was healed through obedience. Also referred to the serpent in the time of 124

Moses: that it was neither the River of Damascus that healed the Leper nor the serpent the children of Israel, but obedience. When Moses was leading the children of Israel through the wilderness, a great serpent surrounded then and began to bite than, and the Israelites repented that they had complained against the Lord and against Moses, and asked Moses to ask the Lord to forgive t hem, and the Lord took then at their word and told Moses to set a manufactured serpent up on the pole and all those who had been bitten and were sick should look upon it and be healed. A great many didn't have the faith and wouldn't look, and they didn't, but all who looked upon it were healed. "It wasn't the serpent that healed then -it was compliance with the direction of the Lord through His servant Moses, and that is what I would like to drive home today. I believe we have the healthiest community and the healthiest bunch in any country. Why; Because I believe we are beginning to exercise faith in the Lord and in his promises. Call in the Elders and the faith of the Elders shall raise the sick. It was the same prescription that was given to them and all others down through the ages. There are a great many people that have little or no faith and need help. We have some very wonderful physicians -we have in our group here that talent which God has blessed and made available for this people. I want to testify of it, and great Good is coming of it. But; the time will come when we will be our own physicians in the sense that we will have faith. And while on that point, I want to emphasize what Brother Hammon said about your being married or attached to a certain party in the Priesthood. I know that a great many people think that Brother John can heal them better than any other member of the Counsel, and some think that I can. That is all nonsense -you brethren have just as much priesthood as I have, and if you are faithful to God's commandments you have just as much power and maybe more than I have. A little while ago, one of our sisters was in deep distress and wanted me to come to administer to her. I was unable to go and I called Brother Jeffs and he tried to get someone to go and couldn't so he went alone, and she was healed. Brother Jeffs has the Priesthood -just as Brother Barlow and I have. He has that power, that authority over sickness, over distress, over misery, that we have and when he exercises that in faith and in humility as he did on this occasion the power of God is with him and people are healed under the power of his hands. God heals them through him. Don't think that one of the Counsel has to do that. Sometimes we can't eat our meals or get sleep because of demands on our time, but we have an army of men here holding the priesthood. You all hold it who hold the Melchizedek

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Priesthood. You are all available. Exercise it. Get the Spirit of the Lord with you. If they have the faith to be healed, they will be healed. Now I realize that faith is a gift from God. I realize that we all can't receive the full power of faith, because we have not grown up yet. It is a principle of power, light and truth and comes through God as a gift, and we do not all realize it in the same measure, but we must let it grow. "I asked a party sometime ago if she wanted to be administered to. She said No, I am clinging to the promises that you have given me. We find some of our men and women want to be administered to each time you meet them. When the Elders place their hands upon your head, and pronounce a blessing, that is sufficient and need not be repeated. I want you to know that the Priesthood Counsel is on the firing line to help you. I am glad to have the people come to me, to Louis, John, etc. We are the same as you are, but we have an appointment and it is the appointment that the Lord magnifies in your eyes. If we are true-and faithful, the Lord will magnify us and make it possible to lead and direct you. "Let us be humble. Let us understand that this is a choice people that Brigham Young spoke about that would sometime come out of the people in order to stabilize the people and keep the fires burning among. the people. That is our mission. The hymn 'The Spirit of God', there is a line 'We will do and dare'. "Let us continue in our humility. Let us be the most humble people there is in the earth. Let us be the most faithful people there is on the earth. Let us seek the Lord morning and night, day after day. Let us not go out to our work without first dedicating ourselves to the Lord in the work you are about to do. There are people among us, Brothers and sisters, who are weeping because they are not receiving the blessings they need. Some of you are praying for motherhood, obstructions from your bodies, same others are aching because of family misunderstandings. But this people has the power, if we will use it, to correct those things that are breaking our hearts at the present time. You mothers, women the Lord has not blessed you, with children, take it up with the Lord. Live all God's commandments and then take it up with Him. The Lord will bless you· and the Lord will add to you, if you are faithful and true. He will add nations unto you.

God bless you, Amen.

Song: Proud, Yes of our Mountain Home.

Prayer: Charles Zitting.

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Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, Sept. 14, 1941 Held at Brother Louis Kelsch's home, 4201 So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow Presided.

Brother Joseph W. Musser conducted.

First Song: "Zion Stands with Hills Surrounded." Prayer: Brother Fred Jessop. Second Song: "Do what Is Right."

Brother R. C. Allred:

I pray God that I will be able to say a few things of benefit to you today. There is nothing as beautiful in the world as the Gospel of Jesus Christ every law of it. Every principle and law of the Gospel is essential to our salvation. There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world upon which all blessings are predicated and when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated." (D. & C. 130:20,21) Keep the law of tithing. Keep the Sabbath Day holy. Obey the law of Celestial marriage. If you want your Brothers and sisters to love you, love them. "Cast thy bread upon the waters; for thou shalt find it after many days." (Ecc. 11:1) We get out of life what we put into it. God will inspire us according to our faith and the way we live His commandments. (He then spoke of how the different Saints in the group took him and his family in when they carne from California; namely, Brother Lyman Jessop, Charles Zitting, Fred Cleveland, etc.) I don't know when I have known a better people than we have here. The Lord said, "Therefore, let your light so shine before this world, that they may see your Good works , and glorify your Father who is in heaven. It (Matt. 5:18) We have been told by the Prophet to keep ourselves unspotted from the world. Don't let your light shine of a Cigarette, a drink, etc. God loves us ",when we do His will and keep His commandments. Let us prove to be an example to the children of men. I hope and pray that I Will not be a stumbling block to others.

Brother Louis Barlow

(from Cedar City) : My Brothers and sisters I don't know what I can say that will benefit you. I have a testimony of the Gospel and the truthfulness of it and the work we are doing. I know it is the right work and if we try our hardest we will come out on top. The work will get done whether we do it or not. He think we have trials, but we don't have a drop in the bucket to what the early Saints had we 127

have nothing in comparison. I hope I can always obey the Priesthood and stand by it, and magnify my calling and never be found holding anyone else back. I am thankful for the way you folks treat us when we come up here. We will try to do the same when you come down there to visit us.

Brother Musser:

I've been listening to one of the pillars of the Kingdom of God.

Brother Sturm:

(from Chicago) He bore his testimony saying how he believed this is the place the Lord wants his Saints; how he came here from Chicago to gather with the Saints for the sake of the Gospel; that we must obey the laws of God.

Orval Johnson (son of Roy) : I am glad to be here and I would like to come more often. It seems that we should be more united. We all speak of the principles of the Gospel but if we neglect one principle, we neglect the whole. I don't believe the people as a whole can get into the Kingdom of God unless they live there United Order. I don't believe we can advance without living that principle . The work will go on whether we do it or not. (He then bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel.)

Brother D. W. Jeffs:

My Brothers and sisters, I hope while I stand before you that I may be warmed up by the inspiration of heaven; that I may say the truth and that I may say those things that will be food for thought that it will be in keeping with the truth. I was thinking when Brother Allred was speaking, and I thought of the time when he arrived in Salt Lake he was housed by some of the Saints. Now he has a house full, and I know he is helping and feeding others. It is through union, through being in the spirit of union and being one--as the Savior prayed to the Father that he and the Apostles be one through the spirit of heaven as He and the Father are one. (John 17:9,20,21,22). I want to call attention for a minute to one of the songs of Zion, page 2l5(a) in the Sunday School song book, "Our God, we raise to thee, thanks for our blessings free, etc. (1st and 4th verses). That has been a predominate thought in my mind for two or three days being one as the Savior and the Father are one.

President Brigham Young said, as recorded in the J. of D. Vol. l, p. 113-114: "Hear

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fool away your existence and being? You were organized, and Brought into being, for the purpose of enduring forever, if you fulfill the measure of your creation, pursue the right path, observe the requirements of the celestial law and obey the commandment of our God. It is then and then only, you may expect that the blessings of eternal lives will be conferred upon you. It can be obtained upon no other principle. Do you understand that you will cease to be, that you will come to a full end, by pursuing the opposite course?" Orson Pratt said, (J. of D. Vol. 2, p. 337-341-346) "The Lord said to us, 'If ye are not one, ye are not mine. * * When I speak of the Holy Spirit, I speak of it as being a substance that is precisely the same in its attributes as those of the Father and Son; and where ever this Holy Spirit is, it possesses the same attributes and the same kind of qualities the personages of the Father and the Son are possessed of; consequently the oneness that is here spoken of must be applied to the attributes, and not to the persons themselves. * * * * Now Jesus, in his prayer, had no reference to the oneness of their substances, but to "the attributes, showing to us, in a most explicit manner that these attributes that dwell in the Father dwell also in the Son. That is the very feature that I have reference to-we must be one; and to be one we must have the spirit of God, because the spirit of God possesses the same attributes that God does. (Continuing Orson Pratt) ,,* * * Give to two individuals of the same capacities the same knowledge of anything the same knowledge of anything--Let them see and understand so that they will have, the same views formed by that sameness of knowledge, and they will not quarrel about their views, but they will act as one, and can sequent will be one in the thing which they understand alike." In a sermon delivered by President Willford Woodruff in August 1896 at the Weber Stake conference said: "One morning, While we were at Winter Quarters,

Brother Brigham Young, said to the brethren "that he had had a visitation in the

night previous from Joseph Smith. I asked him what he said. He replied that Joseph had told him to tell the people to labor to obtain the Spirit of God; that they needed that to sustain them. It and to give them power to go through their work in the earth. After explaining to the audience, about a visitation he had had with the Prophet Joseph Smith in a night vision he then said (while undergrounding in Arizona) and while he traveled along a road in Arizona to attend a conference.) Brigham Young also visited me after his death. On-one occasion he (Brigham) and Brother Heber C. Kimball all rode in a splendid chariot, "with fine, white horses, and accompanied me to a conference that I was going to attend, (while on the road in Arizona),; When I got there I asked Brother Brigham if he would take charge of the conference. "No," said he, "I have done my work here. I have come to see what you are doing and what you are teaching the people." And he told me what Joseph Smith had taught him in Winter Quarters, to teach the people to get 129

the Spirit of God. He said: "I want you to teach the people to get the Spirit of God. You cannot build up the Kingdom of God without it." I have thanked God many times in my heart that I met Brother Musser on the street some three years ago, when he invited me to come to the meetings. I thank God further that a number of souls were converted to the fullness of the Gospel; but it" was not David W. Jeffs who did it, but the spirit and power of God who did it, I only being an instrument in the hand of God in performing this work And if it so be that you should labor all your days in crying repentance unto this people and bring, save it be one soul unto me, how great shall be your joy with him in the kingdom of my Father'?" D. & C. Sec. 15) We are being tempted every day of our lives by the powers of evil. Brigham Young stated once: "Who has influence over anyone of you to cause you to miss salvation in the Celestial Kingdom of God'? I will answer will this question for myself. If Brother Brigham and I take a wrong tract and are shut out of the Kingdom of Heaven, no person will be to blame but Brother Brigham and I am the only being in heaven, earth or hell that can be blamed. This will equally apply to every Lather-day Saint Salvation is an individual operation. I am the only person that can possibly save myself. When salvation is sent to me, I can reject it or receive it. In receiving it, I yield implicit obedience and submission to the Great Author throughout my life and to those whom He shall appoint to instruct me. In rejecting it, I follow the dictates of my own will I in preference to the will of my Creator." (J. of D., Vol. 1:312) I am. a product of the patriarchal order of marriage. My grandfather observed that law in 1842 and my father entered into it and abided that law. He was thrown in jail because he was living in plural marriage and he m wrote a marvelous analysis of the messengers that appeared to him while he was in jail, but on his release the jailer would not permit him to take it away, but burned it. Every law of the Gospel must be lived. I am thankful for the knowledge I have of the Gospel and I know the Gospel is true. I know the Gospel of Jesus Christ is the power of God unto salvation to all those who obey the same. I was called to fulfill certain offices in the church in the bishopric --Stake superintendence of Sunday school, etc., and was finally designated to became president of Bingham Stake in the year 1908, but I moved away in order to comply with the patriarchal order of marriage. But these positions mean nothing to me as compared 'with the knowledge I have of the fullness of the Gospel. God bless you, .Amen.

Brother Charles. Zitting:

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I am very happy to see my friends here this afternoon from all over the country. I know they are gathering here for a purpose. We have got to prepare for the things that are to come. It has been pointed out by the Priesthood that while we are making Good money, we should get our debts paid, layaway a store, for at least two years, as Brigham Young taught. Then give to the poor that which is surplus. If you pay your tithing you will be happy. I know that because there was a time when I did not pay my tithing. If you live the Celestial law you will be happy. If you are honest to your fellow men, it will come back to you. If you cast your bread upon the water, it will came back to you. If you lay everything on the altar, even if it means your wives, children, etc., the Lord will bless you. I know nothing will keep you happy or bless you more than the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I don't know of anything to say, except to live every principle of the Gospel, of Jesus Christ. It is none of my business whether you take tobacco, or strong drink, but it is not a virtue and will not lead you to happiness. It is none of my business whether you live up to the other laws, but what you live will be rewarded. Let us get our debts paid, get our homes paid for. There will be a t:ime when money will come here. There is not a piece of property on earth more secure today than a home in this valley. The countries of Europe have taught us a lesson; war rages there. You will see the something here before long. These valleys will be the last spot on the face of the land that they will fight for. They will fight in the big cities first where the people are more crowded. You need your homes you need your store, because they are going to flock here; they are going to come and want to live our laws. Our Red Brothers will come up from the South. They will receive their blessings at the hands of the Ephraimites. They will flock here for safety and want to keep our laws. They will go back with us to Jackson County. This country will never be taken away from us. There will be a certain number to tarry here to stake up Zion. May God. bless you, is my prayer, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

I (Don't know whether I can make you hear or not, for I have had a bad throat for some time). We have been hearing the Gospel this afternoon; mainly, we have heard of becoming united. How many heard and let it touch their hearts? We came here and hear the brethren preach a Good sermon. How far doe s it sink into us? Let me tell you something the Lord laid down certain laws. How many of us today believe those laws? Some say they believe them, but wi1l you do as you believe? The

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Savior said that he that hear me and then do it, shall be blessed. It is the doers of the word, not just the hearers that will be blessed. I have been well pleased with the young boys' testimonies this afternoon. They. are preparing to carry on the work we are doing. I know the plan of the Priesthood as it is set up today is t rue. I know it not only from hearing it, but through the revelations of God. I know that these brethren who have been set apart have been set apart under the hand s of inspiration. How many of you here have heard ,the brethren prophesy and some of them have been literally fulfilled'? All these things are going by. We see people here that were here a few years ago, but today we see many new faces. We all were converted to the Gospel through baptism, faith, etc., but many of us stopped right there. Now we have got to live the laws of the Kingdom. We have got to live the Celestial law to obtain a celestial glory. God is moving the pace very fast. There are a great many of us getting united. We are trying in help. Let us prepare ourselves for what is coming. When those at the head (church) told the people to stop gathering you can see what resulted. Just read the papers and seethe result. I am glad these people have gathered here from the various parts of the country, and that I had a hand in directing it. Let us live far one another that we may be one in both temporal and spiritual blessings, I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Joseph W. Musser;

This is a Priesthood issue. It is the question of whether we represent God direct. In 1899 a message came to me from President Snow and told me I was to take another wife and help to keep the principle of Celestial Marriage alive.

Brother Hill had a beautiful daughter and I asked for her. Brother Hill said: "It

cannot be done." But I had been told by the Priesthood it could be done. As a member of the church he said it could not be don e. When he had consulted some of the apostles he came and said it could be done. When President Woodruff signed the Manifesto he did it as President of the Church, but as President of the Priesthood he sent Brother Ivins to Mexico to perform plural marriages. In his Priesthood capacity he kept that Priesthood alive. As President of the Church, the Prophet Joseph never taught plural marriage, but as President of the Priesthood he took over 28 wives and told many others to enter into it. When the Church says no plural marriages can be performed in the church they tell the truth, but under the Priesthood that principle is kept alive and they know it. Now, Brothers and Sisters, this is the issue. Without the united order and plural marriage we cannot go back to Jackson County. We cannot become perfect; we cannot please God; we cannot go where he is. Now we know many people in the Church believe plural marriage. None 132

can go into the presence of God unless they live that law, Christ lived it and is one with His Father and he said, "All my Father has is mine," and if we live the laws of the Gospel in full, all will belong to us. We must live the higher laws that enable us in to pass thru that great celestial school. Brother Sturm was driven out of Utah because he lived those higher laws. He and many here today. Will be welcomed because they lived these laws, in the future. Only 3% of the church have ever lived plural marriage. The Church admits over 97% never accepted it, and only 3% ever were faithful Lather-day Saints. 97% of the people who were not converted a:re telling the 3% what to do. In other words, they are telling God the Eternal Father what to do, if we assume that the Church is the head. The Church is ruled by common consent. It is a sort of democracy. God runs "the Priesthood; it is a theocracy Joseph was at me head. He went out and chose 12 apostles to operate the Priesthood; they were high priest apostles. The church chose 70 apostles to' work under their direction. But the high priest apostles, that which Joseph was, were above them, and they received their instructions from heaven. Brother Grant will never receive revelation for the church. If he receives a revelation, it will came through the Priesthood, for God speak s through His channel, and that is the direct channel. I want us all to cling to the understanding that there is a Priesthood and there is a church. The church is auxiliary to the Priesthood. When anything comes to the Church, it comes through the Priesthood; and when the Priesthood receives anything for its direction it receives it from God. God bless you, Amen.

Closing song: "Our God, We Raise to Thee."

Benediction: Brother Herbert Smart.

LTAllred.

Minutes Of the General Meeting held at the home of Chas. Zitting, So. 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, Sunday, Sept. 28, 1941, 2:00 p.m.

Brother J. W. Musser presided.

Brother Charles Zitting conducted.

1st Song: "Came, Let Us Anew"' Prayer: D. W. Jeffs Announcements: Choir practice to be held the coming Wednesday.

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General Meeting to be held. Sunday, October 5, due to Conference being in sessions. 2nd Song: "Sowing"

Brother Lawrence Stubbs:

Brothers and sisters, I am glad to be with you again. I am glad to hear the testimonies of the Gospel that I feel borne in the different individuals that I meet, and I am happy to know that Zion --the people here; pure in heart --is growing, and am grateful for the Gospel and all its blessings, privileges and opportunities --it is truth. If I could say something that would help to bring us closer to one accord, help us to have a deeper love for one another, towards our Father that gave us all the right to live, to enjoy life, I would be grateful to my Heavenly Father. "I know that every soul who comes into the Kingdom and accepts the fullness of the Gospel has to undergo a testing, has to undergo trials and they have to learn to weather the storms, and it is hard for a Good many of us. It is hard for the sisters to stand up in their household am not find fault with their husbands, not complain about privations and other things that are effecting their lives, because it is a trial to live the laws of God that offer salvation to a race of people who are God-fearing in their belief and very nature. I enjoyed the Sunday School class this morning. I was being fed the bread of life. Speaking of the Holy Ghost, the Father revealing Himself whereby the learned and unlearned my know the right from-the wrong, I was thinking of the operations of it and couldn't help but marvel at how wonderful a spirit the Lord had providing to bear witness to all of the truth. Everyone has a right to know its power, its influence; everyone has a right to gain a testimony of the Father, the Son and of Their work. They organized this world. They organized other worlds. That is their gory in bringing to pass the immortality and eternal life of man and that be their glory, and if we desire to become like them -it will eventually became our glory, too, as the Holy Ghost can bear record to us that this is true. But there are other things that interfere. When we become, as Nephi said, Prepare ye to receive the truth, we receive a little here am a little there until finally our whole being is filled with light. I know that most of us here are growing, are gaining truth and light, but there are these things that interfere with our progress in receiving of it, and I wish to refer to a few of them. I know that there is a great deal of love expressed especially in "these plural families. It may not be shown outwardly, but I know that these companions who marry these faithful men have to love them deeply or they could never stand by them in the household like they do. Lucifer would gain a foothold and lead them off into Babylon if it wasn't for the deep love they have far the lord, for their companions, and for the truth. 134

There has been a great deal of fault finding in our little group. The devil has a purpose in it, but if we want to rise above weaknesses, above imperfections faster than we are, let's learn to support the brethren, let's learn to stand up for the principles of right that they are trying to stand up for, that they are trying to introduce, that they are trying to bring about to make us all large united family. "Brother Orson Pratt counseled many of the brethren one time to not judge their Brothers or sisters or find fault with -them, especially those that were working in the same cause that we were interested and working in, but to learn to love them and support them and try to encourage "them, and build them up instead of pushing them back. It doesn't hurt the individual we talk about -it only hurts ourselves, and we need to learn these lessons. We need to teach our children. Remember that Joseph Smith, Frederick G. Williams and Sidney Rigdon were rebuked because they didn't teach their children the truth and light. "There is no one here but would like to have peace and like to become more perfect. When they were talking in Sunday School this. morning, I couldn't help but think of the world the people who had not the influence of the Holy Ghost testifying to them of the truth in comparison to those Who embrace these principles, those who live the laws of the Lord. We find that all through history they have been the natural inheritors of blessings --go back to any period in the world, and when you find a people that were living the laws of God, they prospered, they increased, and they became the inheritors of the most precious territory, the most precious blessings both spiritually and physically. You take Joseph when he was sold into Egypt when he was a boy. The Lord blessed him by allowing him to have a dream and the interpretation which he knew were true because the Holy Spirit bore record and he saw the lean years and he knew. the Lord had something in store for him when he was placed in prison, all the prisoners saw that he was different, and he was different because he had something burning in his bosom that gave him hope, that gave him light. He had knowledge that there was a supreme being, that He loved and was governing the affairs of his children in the earth. Joseph provided food in the tine of famine for all his father's house, and you know the blessings that to the House of Israel. Well, Brothers, and sisters, they had their trying times and testing the Brother as well as Joseph, and the Brother learned to love Joseph. I have had individuals talk about Short Creek. I have had them condemn one thing and then another, and Brothers and sisters, it's just like Judas. He was used as an instrument to betray the Redeemer of the world. We should be cautious of whom we talk about and what we talk about, especially when it is dealing with the things of God and especially vessels who are in possession of a certain amount of truth . 135

Unto Joseph appeared the angel with a flaming sword, commanding him to enter into this principle, and when we come to discerning the truth, sometimes it becomes as sharp as a two edged sword, but when we come to ridiculing the Priesthood of God, the power that God is governing with, the power that He himself obeys, abides by the law, When we come to condemning characters surely, some of them prove they haven' t reached the perfection that Jesus Christ has reached yet none of them --nevertheless they are vessels of the Lord Jesus Christ, bearing His name in the earth testifying the truth building up His Kingdom. "We know that in order to became a part of that Great Kingdom, we've got to join hands and overlook one another's faults and failings and try to become one in the establishment of the Kingdom and try to have the truth and teach others to live this law. "Now if we can do this, we will have to the Spirit of the Lord. As Brother John has said time am time again, we will have the Spirit of God, and he always says, "Get the Spirit of God and keep it. It's hard for all of us, it's hard for me, but I can say that I and my family have come a long way. Let's see that we do not neglect our families. Lets teach our young children when they are young and can comprehend. Spend some time with them. I have a wife who reads Bible stories to the little ones, and I can see their little minds grasp these stories and they stay with them, and if they get it from their mothers, the mother is the guiding light in their young lives. Let us go forward and let us be determined to serve the Lord, that we might have a right to a place in His Kingdom in time to come, that we might have a seat in the Holy City, New Jerusalem, and be able to pass by the Royal Family, the Royal Group who is to sit in judgment as to whom is to came and who isn't. I am sure that any of us who can't stand to belong to a polygamous family can't stand to have that privilege of dwelling in that Holy City that is going to be prepared for the faithful in the time to come. May God bless us, may He help us to see the principles of truth and cling to them.

Brother Stubbs then commented on the cream of young boys being taken off

to war, and of the shortage of men which would result, thus denying women the privilege of marrying, necessitating their becoming prostitutes in order to obtain affection. So let's be always prepared and have our lamps burning and fight for the truth for the cause of right. Never be ashamed of these principles. May the Lord bless you, I pray in the name of Jesus Christ.

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The strongest testimonies that I have received have been in this house."

Brother Dutson spoke of having traveled through most of the United States. Spoke

of the people in Minnesota with whom he had spent the summer, of their high moral standards and conduct. "None of us can enter the Kingdom of God unless our bodies and spirits are as clean and pure as a little child. The grandest thing of life is to be pure. I believe that that helps most of us to understand our obligations to God more than anything else, because it is that point that helps us to be humble, which we must be before we can receive any more truth. I don't believe you realize what Good comes from the TRU'IH. I pray that we may all appreciate the blessing we have in being privileged to be born as such spirits, to meet one another here and know that we knew each other before. It is the condition of how we live that will naturally determine our service to God, both here and the hereafter. I don't believe that many of us appreciate that as we should. We segregate ourselves and pride ourselves that we have been placed to partake of the fullness of the Gospel, and I pray that we will sense this responsibility and try to be more loving, kind and appreciative of one another for the Good each of us tries to do. Amen.

Chorus Sister Athlene Allred, the conductor prefaced the singing of the Choir by reading from the Mill. Star out of a letter written by Brother Snow to Brother Hyde regarding the song: "For the Strength of the Hills", which was then rendered by the Chorus.

Robert Shrewsberry I would like to say something to unite our people more. The Lord has blessed me very greatly and answered so many of my prayers, am I want to acknowledge this and say I do have a testimony of the principles of the Gospel. We should uphold every principle of the Gospel --not just one, but all. We have striven to uphold the principle of plural marriage because it has been set aside by the Church, but I feel that we ought to uphold every law. The law, of tithing is just as important --the law of attending meetings. That's a principle that we ought to live up to better than we do. Our meetings are growing and are crowded but if all came who believe in the fullness of the Gospel, I feel we couldn't meet here. "Several months ago I heard some very strong arguments that the leaders of this group have only the authority to perform plural marriages. If these were true, they would be claiming to have priesthood that they don't have. The D & C. says when people seek to exercise their priesthood in unrighteousness, it is not valid. I have a testimony as to the order of the Priesthood. This was told to me before I ever came to this country, and that testimony has ever stayed with me. The Power of the Devil tries to keep people too busy with the affairs of life to progress with 137

the Gospel. But my testimony is strong, and I know for a surety, regardless of what people try to teach. I am looking forward to the day when I may receive the promise that I may go forth as a missionary, and in the meantime I want to be worthy to be a member of this group. I pray the Lord's blessings on you in Jesus name, Amen.

Axel Erickson Brothers and Sisters, I thank God that I am here today, that I am acquainted with this people -the best people I ever knew of, and I, pray to God I will be faithful and will stand by in the days that are coming. When I first came into this people, I heard of the Coming Crisis, and I would like to stand to fill the mission required of me, and I thank Gal that I received the Spirit of Gathering and came here the only one of my family. I was the only one who understood these things when the missionary came around in the old country, and I accepted it. I was among the sectarians and went to their meetings, but never joined any of them. But when these missionaries came and taught the Gospel of Jesus Christ, I understood and accepted it and I have never been sorry that I did. I rejoice in my soul every day. It takes time to get knowledge and I have had to learn every day more and more, line upon line, precept upon precept, and I wish to go ahead and put the things I have learned into practice. I wish the Lord to bless me with a knowledge that I will be able to go forth. I thank you Good people. I have received many Good instructions here. I have been with this group ever since 1933, when I heard Brother Broadbent speaking. I have received many instructions here from the Priesthood. Counsel, and I wish to learn so I can remember things that I have been taught so I can practice it and live it, so I can go ahead and do the will of the Father. I pray the Lord to bless you here, the Priesthood Counsel, and all the members, with health and strength ,that we my all go ahead and not go back.

Marion Hammon Quoted. from an address made by Brigham Young in 1853 in the Tabernacle, as contained in Journal of Discourses, Volume.____ "I don't see any excuse for us trembling and fearing the trials we have to go through if we are willing to comply with the requirements of the Gospel. If we will understand this one thing that if we will keep the commandment s of God, He will bless us, and I believe and feel that in return for what we might do in being willing to live His laws, He will bless us. I have read of the privations of the Saints in Jackson County, endured and I wonder how they endured them. They endured them by the Spirit. of God, and they who endured would receive eternal life, and this people will also do this if they keep the commandment s of God. If we want to 138

make a straight line perfection of our lives, it is to cease finding fault with other people's lives. I pray the Lord to bless you all in Jesus name, Amen."

Charles Zitting We are living in a day when men' s hearts are failing them, when millions are being killed. Why should we be fearful, when we know the wicked are slaying the wicked, as God said they would? The Priesthood has instructed this people to get out of debt and to store things up for hard times. We are going to have a hard times very hard time, and it is not very far off. Things are going so fast, we are going to have a danger of famine here --not because of lack of seed time and harvest, but because we are going to have so many to feed. So, when you store away seed and fruit and beans, and when you store away clothing and especially thread so you c an patch your old clothes, don' t do it with the thought that you will be better off than your neighbor when the hard time comes, but do it with the thought you will have something to help some soul who comes here for safety. If you have an empty room, fix up a bed and put away some cases of canned milk and think of the party who is going to come here and have no food. God will help you. That is my promise to you in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Closing Song: "True to the Faith . Benediction: by Joseph W. Musser. Myrtle Allred-

Minutes General Meeting Held at the home of Charles Zitting So. 5th East , Salt Lake City, Utah October 5, 1941 2:00 p.m. J. Y. Barlow Presided and Conducted 1st Song: "How Firm a Foundation" Prayer: A. A. Timpson

Arnold Boss: My Brothers and Sisters, I hope and pray that the prayer that was offered may be fulfilled in my behalf, as well as in behalf of others that may speak. I am very grateful to appear here before you today, to have the privilege of bearing record of the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ as I understand it, and I am very grateful to the Lord that I live in these valleys of the mountains. I never have seen the time when I felt more grateful to the Lord that I have this privilege. I am grateful to the Lord that I have a testimony in my heart, that I know that God, the 139

Eternal Father, Brought His people to the valley of the mountains that He Brought them here for a wise purpose, and I am deeply convinced in my mind that the Lord had set aside these valleys of the mountains for hundreds of years before the saints ever come here, that He prepared this place, knowing the conditions when the Gospel would be restored again, and lie knew that eventually his people would have to be secured in a place that would have his protection, so they could stand the storms and troubles that would overtake them, because He knew there was an enemy on the earth who had shown his course from the very beginning I know that some of the chosen blood that God had upon the face of this earth was Brought here and. is still here, and I know that some of that best blood has been called to preside here upon the earth and that they are administering in the affairs of God at the present time. I have been listening to some of the things that they been taking place in the last two days at the General Conference, and I can say that some things ,are coming very close home to the Latter Days Saints, some of them are acknowledging that we have to come back once more to the standards of our pioneers. They can see that there has been a straying away from the principles that they used to teach and. notwithstanding that we are here in the valleys of the mountains, we are not as secure as we were under the administration of the early leaders of the people. They can see that if we haven't gone out in the world to get Babylon, it h as came here, and that we are responsible very largely for the conditions that exist here now, and it is a condition that is anything but pleasing if some of our early leaders were to came here today. "I recall a promise that was made and published in the "Deseret News" in the 60' s or early 70' s, When Brigham Young warned the L.D.S. that if they would not heed the counsel s that were given them, that the lands they had secured here under the blessings of God would all go out of their hands and would fall into the hands of the Gentiles. And I notice from a report recently that over 50% of all the property in the State of Utah is owned by non-Mormons today. Now weather that had reference to just the farms, I don't know, but I do knew that over 50% of our farms have been gone for a long time -not to mention anything about our homes, our cattle, or feed. There was a time when we were independent here, and I just want to call your attention to the vision given to the early leaders which has been fulfilled. The gentiles have control of our homes, land and cattle and a very serious condition is prevailing all around. It would. appear that our people are very secure through some relief measures taken by the Church, at c., but you will find that we are anything but secure here when it comes to being a self-sustaining people. For years the leaders taught these people to pool their interests together send back for machinery and make themselves independent of the Gentile people or of the condition of the United states and they very definitely warned the saints 140

that the time would come they could not go to the U. S. to receive things in the way of materials or food and supplies because they would be cut off from the United States, and they foresaw this condition and warned the Light becomes Day Saints to try to provide for this emergency that was to arise in the future upon this, the American continent. We have been taught that this Government should not prevail and these conditions are coming real close upon us, and by the time another six months pass away, we may see a transformation that will change our whole scheme of living, and we don't need to try to sympathize with conditions that prevail, because everybody knows that this is the most crime-ridden nation in the world. There is more money being appropriated every year to curb crimes than there is in the U. S., and our Government is hanging in the balance. It has been prophesied that our Government would hang on a thread, and it has been told that even the Priesthood of God will hang on a thread, and these things have been fulfilling themselves in a wonderful way, --almost too wonderful for us to believe. I remember that Erastus Snow used to preach that the day would come when great rebel forces would go through the United States like the sound of a great tornado. This power is getting a momentum to and factions will rise and preach the destruction of the Government of the United states. These forces are smoldering today, but that is only a paltry thing as to what is coming. The Lord has done something too. He has been laying the foundation for a work here, and He has always had some people who were willing to stand up for the Fullness of the Gospel, and He knew that if the Constitution of the United States was saved it would be through the Priesthood of God both the Republicans and Democrats have been weighed in the balance and found wanting. There isn't a party in the nation that will stand up for the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If this Government is going to be saved, it will be saved only through the Priesthood. I am glad I know that of all that will transpire, this Priesthood is here to Stay until the building of the New Jerusalem. I want to bear my testimony that the Gospel is true, and I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, and I know the Priesthood of God is with us, and I have been a recipient of these blessings, and I will be held responsible in the heavens for the blessings that have been accorded to me --and so will all of you. You will never get into the Celestial Kingdom until you pass everybody who holds the keys to this Dispensation, in his order. The way the people are being taught today, you would think it requires no effort but to get into the Celestial Kingdom, that is not true. You will pay the price --the Lord will try you. If there is anything He can put into our way to see if we will apostatize from the truth, they will be put before us. He will try us to see if we will stand by -if we are the people of God. I bear my testimony that we will not have smooth sailing. There never has been a man or woman in this Gospel who will get into the Celestial Kingdom who doesn't know the meaning of poverty -- 141

that is a part of your schooling. And there isn't anybody here in this roam today that hasn't sounded the depths of poverty but what will have that privilege before you get through this life if you want to b e a candidate for Celestial glory, and this will apply to everything to see if God can try you to see it you will remain faithful and true to your covenant s. All in the Celestial Kingdom have been tried and have proven that they have qualified in their tests. "I tell you we are living in one of the most momentous periods in the world's history. I hope to see the time come now when the Almighty is going to pour out judgments upon the hypocrites in Zion. They are coming, and this people is to be humbled, and He will do it in His way, so that if there is my man or woman in the these valleys of the mountains whose faith can be saved, their faith will be saved. He wants to exalt truth in the minds of the saints, and it is our business and responsibility to sow the seeds of life. I pray God to help us live to see the establishment of his Kingdom, may God help us to endure to the end, is my wish and prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Choir; "Sweet Is the Work"

G. Loring La Baron (from Kingman, Arizona) It is indeed a thrill and a privilege to be up here and met with you. Brothers and Sisters, all I can say is that I know, This work is true. I knew the Priesthood has the power and the power to heal to heal, am I have seen those powers in action, as have you Brothers and Sisters, that when the hands have been laid on the sick they have been made whole. When you love the truth, and when you know the truth, you have the power of Almighty God. I am thankful to be counted among you, and I am thankful to bear my testimony that we have prophets among us, men that have communed with the other side and men that know the things that they say –not because they believe they a:re true, but because they know the y' are true. There i s a great difference. I'll be going back soon, but I hope to meet with you again, and I want to become more acquainted with each one and I want to be stronger and to be able to do the will of our Heavenly Father, to keep His laws and commandment s --be doers of the word and not just hearers. When we can do that and really prove ourselves faithful, then we will receive our reward. I have heard of the prophesy that there will only be enough worthy saints that the Salt Lake Temple will be able to hold them and the St. George Temple will be able to hold the righteous there, and what small amount that is compared with the majority of the people who are Light becomes Day Saints.

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I hope and pray that we may not just be members, but that we will be privileged to be in this Kingdom of God because of our merits. I know I that we will not be unless we do merit. Again I bear testimony that this is the truth and that we had better pay heed to those that are over us, and I ask the Lord's blessings upon each one of you to this end that we will be doers of the work and I ask it in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen:

Roy Johnson My Brothers and sisters, I trust that the spirit of the Lord may be with me that I might be able to say something that will benefit someone here. I have been greatly interested in the remarks of the brethren that have preceded me. I have been listening in to the Conference that is now in session. The saints have been given some Good advice. Some of the speaker s preached the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The key-not e of the Conference seems to be obedience. Some preached obedience to the laws of God, and others obedience to the leaders of the Church. I want to read just a verse from 2nd Nephi: 'But woe unto him that has the law given and that transgresseth it and wasteth the day--We have all the law given: The Lord has revealed it through his servant the Prophet, unto us the way of salvation whereby we might get back into the presence of God. And here is a little bunch of people who have chosen to obey those laws and teach the commandments of God. Why? Because we chose to do that very thing -because we chose to keep one law called Celestial marriage. God says we can't ever get back into His presence unless we obey that law. But is that all we have to do? He says "all the laws." If we keep the law of Celestial Marriage and break the other law, then we are guilty of the whole, we are told. " My testimony to you is that the Gospel is true and unless we live all the laws that God has given, not only Celestial marriage, but the law of United Order as well, we will fall short of the goal we seek. I ask God's blessings to be with us and help us to overcome our weakness and imperfections that we may be able to stand worthy in the sight of God."

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J. W. Musser I have been asked to take a portion of the time this afternoon, and I can instruct you providing the Lord will direct me, And providing your hearts are prepared to receive the word of the Lord. This is a General Conference. I suppose we will meet on the second Sunday as usual next Sunday, but this is a special meeting called in commemoration of the General Conference of the Church. A great man perhaps ten, twelve or fifteen 143

thousand of the members of the Church have gathered in the Tabernacle and Assembly Hall and other places to hear the words that may be said from the stand. in the Tabernacle, and we a matter of 100 or maybe 200 people have gathered here to hear the words that shall be uttered through the inspiration of the Lord, I hope. It reminds me of the time they had the great congress of churches years ago. Brother Roberts was sent to represent the Church of Jesus Christ, but when he got there, almost all the main body of the other religious sects or representatives to having

Brother Roberts speak in their hearing and in the great hall in which they were then

assembled.· They said Mormonism was not entitled to that type of representation and Brother Roberts, after making one of his characteristic fights, was finally awarded privilege of speaking in a small side room and he declined with thanks and came home. He said that Mormonism was not seeking that kind of representation, and that reminds me somewhat of this situation. The greet bulk of the people are assemble on Tabernacle Square as they generally are and many of our people who have tried to attend those meetings have been ejected from the grounds. Many were ejected last night from attending Priesthood meeting. Some of them who held the Fullness of Priesthood, some of them who have been appointed to represent God the Eternal Father, on the earth, were ejected from the tabernacle grounds, and some of those who were permitted to enter that great edifice and parade the grounds, it is safe to say, were murderers, adulterers and liars whom I am assuming this to be true, because I know the mature of men and women, and a great many of those who call themselves Light becomes Day Saints but who are not Light becomes Day Saints were admitted into that building and had the privilege of listening to the proceedings while the Priesthood of God --my I say the real Priesthood, the genuine Priesthood (I say this because I know whereof I speak --were denied the privilege of going into that sacred building. (at the time it was built and during the administrations of many of the leaders) Sow are meeting here and this is a sort of a side-room, but we have come for bread and for the meat of the Gospel, and we have assembled from California and Arizona and Idaho, and· we have people here from New York, perhaps Chicago and other places. We had a young man a week or so ago from Toronto, Canada, and the other day a woman from Colorado asked advice and counsel. This is a very healthful situation, and with Brother Boss who has expressed himself as being pleased and gratified at knowing these things, I am pleased and grateful that we have come as far as we have along the path of duty. In analyzing the situation, I seem to see some improvement in this people. We have been told many tines --Brother Barlow has told us most emphatically that while we are a Good people, we are not Good enough that is true none of us are Good enough --none of us are perfect. Jesus says: -If you say you are perfect, you are a liar, you have no truth in you. And that is true today. God is 144

the great symbol of perfection, and those who claim they are good hear in mortality are simply denying a statement of the Lord. Now, there have been many things in this Conference thus far that have been Good. We have been told by a number of speakers that we must live the fullness of the Gospel. Well, that's Good, that's sound, that's wholesome. Of course we must live the Fullness of the Gospel. The fullness of the Gospel comprehends Celestial law, which comprehends everything pertaining to salvation. We can't expect to go back to Father unless we live the Fullness of the law. The heathen doesn't believe in living the Fullness of the law. They eat and drink and they survive, but they are not getting anywhere. If you are told that you must plant corn and if you will plant it, you will reap corn, and then if you think you can reap it without planting it, you are mistaken. And that is the way the people are today. They are told they must live the fullness of the Gospel, yet they excuse themselves and say we'll wait. Now just as surely as the man who will not plant corn will not reap it, "just as surely the man who will not live the Celestial Law will not reap the Celestial Glory. They have told us to be kind, forgiving, to be one; and that is good doctrine. That is inspired of the Lord. All truth belong s to the Lord, and where we utter truth, we utter it under inspiration or faith. There is one thing that is disgusting to me so far, and That is the tendency of the brethren to encourage people to go to the hospitals and to be waited on by the medical fraternity and to be cut open, etc. Brother Grant made it very clear in his opening talk that he was under the supervise and direction of his doctor. "His doctor had permitted him to have twenty minutes on his feet -no more. Two or three days before he went to Provo and had taken extra time and the doctor had sentenced him to ten days in bed. Now, I am disturbed in these matters. Is Brother Grant the leader of the people? Are the people the people of God? Is God governing Brother Grant, or is his doctor? I reel that a great injustice is being done by encouraging people to disregard tile revelations of the Lord. We are not trying to discount or in any way reflect upon the valuable service of doctors, Many of them men who are really honest there's mighty few of them in the doctors fraternity, or in the other professions, as a matter of fact, but there are some honest doctor's but the Lord has told us what we should do to be healed. Now did the Lord know what He was talking about? He told us to call in the Elders of the Church and they would anoint us and pray over us and their prayers should raise the sick and their sins should be forgiven them. Isn't that promise enough? That came from God the Eternal Father, through one of His early apostles, and in this day He has revealed that principle. And He has told us that if we would administered unto, and we are not appointed unto death we should be healed.

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"We had a case recently that I feel like mentioning at the present time. One of our brethren was supposed to have bad the appendicitis and his, appendix was supposed to have Broken. One of our brethren, who is a doctor, attended him, but he is not a surgeon, he is not a cutting doctor. He is one of our Good brethren, a

Brother in full faith, full of the power of Priesthood, but when this man was

supposed to have a Broken appendix, he says: Professionally, you should be operated upon. Non professionally it is between you and the Lord. I can't do anything more for your professionally and some of the folks wanted it done because he is a very valuable man, but he says: No, the Elders were here just a few nights before and I was promised I would not have to be operated upon, and I am going to cling to that promise. And he is in our midst today, although this happened only a few days ago. "If you are not appointed unto death, you will be healed. If you are appointed unto death, why stay here? It seems to me to be one of the most glorious things to anticipate to wind up things on this mortal sphere, when we can go into the next room and grow and increase. I don't know why anyone wants to stay here a moment longer than necessary. When I was on a mission I was released, but my

President asked me to stay a few months longer. I put the matter up to the

Apostles and they said you have been released go home. You have been released; go home --go into that God has prepared for you. Don't stay here in this Telestial condition that exists here, but go into the presence of those who have gone before you and continue your work there. Now, I don't know how far I would be able to carry that out if I was writhing under the pain of appendicitis, but that is my feeling.. I commend Brother Morrison for his standing out and letting the Lord decide. I commend that man who was taking care of him for his frankness and his willingness to depend on faith, and I commend the parents of this boy and his friends who stood by him under this condition.

Brother David W. Jeffs could tell you about case after case. He has charge of

this work of administering. We placed it under his direction because we haven't time to run from place to place as we are called, and Brother Jeffs selects men to go to these places, and he has the gift of healing. Now in this respect, I see an improvement. I see that we are growing. We are making headway. " We have advised the saints to get out of debt, to overcome any desire that they may seem to have now that there is a boom on and everybody is getting high wages, to avoid extravagances and get out of debt, because there is going to be the reverse of the boom, and when we get that, there is going to be a great deal of suffering. And I feel to advise people to quit buying things on time. It is the damning influence the nation has had. It is sending the nation into bankruptcy --buying things on credit. Buying the necessities of today on credit, buying extravagances, 146

automobiles, sewing machines, dresses. A great many people buy dresses a dollar down and a dollar every time they get hold of it. And it lasts all their lifetimes. It is a wrong principle. It is a principle that will throw you into bondage and keep you there the rest of your life. Sometimes a person will buy a flat iron and a set of books and a washing machine and pay one or two dollars a week and pretty soon it is ten or fifteen and -they eventually go into bankruptcy. I can see wisdom in storing up food where a man has a good salary and wants to put in food and coal for the winter while they are Cheaper, and people that are putting things away by the box should see that they -re put away and not used as soon as they come to the house, because we will have to use these things. One Brother who just bought a farm told me there is 66 bushels of wheat for me, and I want the people to have it. We have some wheat down in Southern Utah. The Government won't let us turn until -the tax is paid on it. Well, we've got to keep it until the tax has been taken off. After while they will be mighty happy to take the tax off and let us distribute it and use it. I feel again to caution our people with regards to these matters.

Brother Timpson in his prayer today asked the Lord that the Gospel might

go before all the honest in heart. He had a broad vision there. He wanted to cover the entire earth, which is proper and right, but the thought came to me while those words were coming out of his mouth, while we are ready and want to save the entire earth, those who are seeking life (and we should be), are we ready to accord our neighbor the love and. respect and confidence that he is entitled to? Are these wives ready to accord their sister wives the proper respect am care and love that they are entitled to? It is easy for us to look over to the great beyond and, want to bring some happiness there, but we have our problem next to us in the same house, in the same room. Those are our problems today, and these are our problems upon which we need instruction from time to time. The Lord says: Unless ye are one, ye are not mine. Well, what does that mean? It means one as God and his Son are one --in intent, desire and action. It is a very simple lesson, but it is one we've got to learn. We can't go to our Father until we are one. We would be barred out of Heaven until we are one. I felt that if I were called upon today, I would like to refer to the false and elusive spirits we have with us today. We can't go where they are not. But there is a key to keep them from bothering us; to keep us from going astray if we follow that key. False spirits are more subtle and ----* * * today. Just as soon as we begin to stray from the path of duty, then these evil spirits have control. Let us remember that one-third of the hosts of heaven became evil spirits, and they are around us here, if our' eye s were open we would find millions of them around us, and they are tempting us all the time, and just as soon as we stop doing our duty they take hold of us and start to bore in and try to defer us from following the 147

Gospel of Jesus Christ. But one of the most insidious poisons that we have, or one of the most open advances that we make ,for those spirits is that pertaining to jealousy, and that I want to speak a little about today -the matter of jealousy. And how shall that jealous spirit be removed? The jealous spirit is the spirit of the evil one. When you invite a spirit into your body or to your house, the Priesthood has no right to go in there and drive that spirit out. It is invited there. You have invited that guest into your house, and so far as I am concerned he is going to stay there until you humble yourself and seek relief through repentance. All those who do the will of the Father are free from the influence of those evil spirits, but just as soon as you begin to define from the path of duty and righteousness, those spirits begin to take possessions. "You wives, you are under the direction and jurisdiction of your husbands. When you entered into the sealing covenant which you received whether it was in the temple or elsewhere, you entered into a covenant that you would obey the law of your husband and when that husband took you, you gave yourself to him. He didn't marry you; you married him, which is proper way, the proper form. He became subject to the law of Jesus Christ, and you have no right to criticize him as long as he is living in accordance with the principle s of righteousness. He may not be; God Almighty will judge him. He is under the direct supervision of God. He undertakes to live the laws of Jesus Christ. If man is not without the woman nor woman without the man nor is the man without Jesus Christ. And as man is subject to Jesus Christ, so is the women subject to her husband. Now, I know there are many things at times that provoke women, but, sisters, if you will endure those things, Christ has His representatives on the earth, and if you will endure those things in patience, and if the conditions became such that you can't endure any longer, go to the representatives of God upon the earth and lay your situation before them and I will promise you that if that man has polluted his Priesthood, ignored or repudiated his Priesthood, you will get relief, but unless he has done that, you are not entitled to release. " Some men are so mighty b:ig because they are the head of the woman, etc., etc." This is the word of the Lord to you today, as I interpret it. A man can't do an injustice to a woman without paying the penalty. A woman can't complain about her husband, the laws he gives her, without paying the penalty. We have instances of that situation in the case of Eve. God told Adam that he mustn't partake of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but if you partake of that, Adam, in the day thereof you shall surely die. Now, that placed Adam under the supervision of God the Eternal Father.

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He didn't t ell Eve that; the Lord didn't, but Adam told Eve that. Adam. was the law giver to Eve, as God was the law giver to Adam, so Adam told Eve, Now, Eve, my dear, we can partake of all the fruit except the one tree that stands in the midst of the garden. And someone else comes along and convinces Eve to partake of it, and Eve does. She has disobeyed the law of her husband, and the sentence was that you shall bring forth in sorrow, in pain, all the days of your life and your desires shall be unto your husband. That was the great penalty, and when Adam disobeyed the commandment-because Eve had done it and was to be cast out of the Garden and Adam was told to remain with her and to multiply and replenish the earth, and the only way he could do it was to remain in her company. Then the Lord cursed the land for his sake and said, "You shall eat bread from the sweat of your brow" and you are cast out of my presence. Those were the conditions that existed at that time, which showed that Adam received his law from the Father and Eve received her law from Adam, which was the proper form. Now my brethren, if you repudiate your Priesthood, if, after taking a wife under the solemn covenant you refuse to go on and live the Fullness of that law, you are repudiating your Priesthood and if you repudiate your Priesthood, your wife has a right to ask for a separation, a release, as long as she is faithful and true. If you go along in that law when you receive that marriage ceremony and then in some other way repudiate our Priesthood, your wife has a case against you. Why? Because you can't exalt her. That's the reason. She's in your family life to be exalted. She wants to go back to her Father and Mother -the Mother that nursed her in the spirit world, and the Father that loved her and sent her forth. She wants to go back, and if you do something to deprive her of exaltation, she has the right to go to the proper source and ask to be released. There is only one reason a man can put away a woman and that is by fornication, so that women by keeping their bodies clean and pure are privileged to go on, and although they may make it so hot for men, they can hardly take it, they must go on. Brother Kimball turned two of his wives over to the buffeting of Satan, but he provided for them. They had invited so many wicked spirits that he could not go into the house, and it was to them to cleanse themselves. "These are some of the things I have been impressed to talk about today, and I want to commend you, this Group. I feel that we are improving. I feel that the Lord is taking notice of us. I feel that the time is fast coming when the Lord's work is going to be made more manifest to our eyes. If we knew when the prophet was going to came and set his house in order, we would tell, but when he does come, I look to see many of you Brothers and sisters chosen to work in this new work that he is inaugurating. I may not be here;

Brother Barlow may not be here, and others, but we are helping to teach you

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will come when you will be used. The time will come when the Lord will need the help that you are now preparing yourself to give, but we must become one in all things, learn to love our neighbors as ourselves. "I see in some families a disposition to criticize. One wife is criticizing the others. I have had many complaints about it. Now; until these wives can become one, they can't ever see their Father and receive the higher blessings from their husbands, and when you do become one, when the time comes that you are one, there are blessings for your --blessings that you can't realize and believe at the present time. These are the things that we are working for, that we might learn to be more charitable, more kind, more conscientious, more honest. I have had women who are absolutely dishonest, telling things; Brothers and sisters. God will not tolerate liars in heaven. Your husband's in many ways are doing all they can --they are going through a variety of hell to provide existence. It is no easy job at the present time to make a living for a large family and to provide them with the things that they feel they need. It's no soft job, and yet men are doing it. They are doing it with grateful hearts that the Lord has permitted them to undertake that kind of a job. And you sisters must help them and not discourage and not tear them down and not complain, to them, but help to build up and keep them strong and courageous in the work. This is your duty and privilege if women outside of our group and society don't want to have children. What do they do? Why, they are murdering their offspring. Yes, it's murder whenever a body is started to tabernacle a spirit sent to release that spirit from prison in the spirit world. When you destroy that tabernacle, you are denying that spirit a tabernacle in mortality and his chance to go on and progress, and God will hold us responsible for those things. You can't commit that damnable sin without -paying for it. Yes, there's a chance to repent under certain conditions am circumstances, but with the knowledge that you have here today, I want to tell you that you can't repent if you commit those things.' It is impossible. You will have to go through hell as David did. There are some sins that can be forgiven, but there are some that cannot and will not be forgiven, and hell is the only place where you can work out the penalty for that sin that is being committed. And the whole world including our Church are guilty of it at the present time –not that it is approved by tile Church leaders, but the people with impunity are practicing things, damning things, in order that they might have freedom in society and the church is not taking any definite stand against it. And I want to warn you, mothers and sisters, you young girls who are preparing for wife hood and motherhood, I want to warn you not to listen to these things, but let God the Eternal Father be the arbitrator. People that do this bring damnation upon themselves. "God bless you, Amen." 150

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Marion Hammon ; It is a very solemn occasion. Joseph didn't mention that I slipped by the door keeper last night, and I got a lot of food for thought. I heard Brother Grant speak for a bout forty minutes. He wasn't worried about what his doctor would say. But he had something on his mind that he wanted to say and he got it off and he did a fair job. His voice, when he gets warred up, serves him very well. I was lead to think of ourselves. Most of us have been cast out of their society because we have preached the Fullness of the Gospel and are perfect, perfecting ourselves in a manner that they think is wholly unnecessary. So we have taken upon ourselves some very serious matters, because when any of us slip, were dead. There is some redemption for them, but when we slip and fail, we are eventually going into dissolution. We are battling for life ,and when we fail in our determination, we will be partakers of dissolution. I shivered when I thought of my situation. I saw that I had taken it upon myself to step out ahead of the Church and try to perfect my life on a rather broader plan. I think I can see in the ranks of the leaders that they are going to try to get the people to repent. Pres. Grant instructed then not to try to make their sacrament meetings programs. This morning I heard Harold B. Lee dwell on many appropriate things. I feel I need to repent, and don't know but what a lot of us do. I tell you we are taking it upon ourselves to build up the Kingdom of God and we need to be a lot more strict in our lives. We are apt to make allowances because we are living the Fullness of the Gospel, but we should follow God's laws of conduct, and I don't know who is excepted from that condition. I don' t feel to advise those over me, but I think you will feel in my heart a desire to be more perfect.

Brother Joseph has told the sisters to be united in their families, and. I say no

matter how united you become you will never get into the Celestial Kingdom with make up on your faces. I don't wish to hurt your feelings. It is just a condition. I will confess that wearing make-up isn't what it used to be. But I am just telling you, you will have to lay it aside the same as the brethren will have to lay their smoking and excessive drinking aside to get into the Celestial Kingdom. We need to take upon ourselves more solemn covenants if we get into the Celestial Kingdom. "Last night they had policemen standing on both sides, but I wasn't afraid of my convictions. I wasn't afraid one of them would tear down my doctrines, because I don't care how loud they preach, they stand up in garment s that are not designed by the Priesthood of God. If I can't keep the commandments of God, I will not qualify. I see ourselves and myself gliding along and being lulled into 151

carnal security because of perhaps an extra wife and extra priesthood, but it will not get me there unless I keep in harmony with the Gospel. One of the speakers this morning said he doubted if there were 10% of the Saints living the Gospel. I doubt if we could find a dozen men and women who could live the United Order to the end. I pray to God that He will send His judgments upon us, and if you don't want to be numbered, I will say upon me, that I may suffer all His rebukes and stings, that I can gain exaltation. I know that God has got to have people that will stand by. "We have taken the Sacrament out of our Sunday School. We were all of a harmony that the people were making too light of it. Brother Lyman called on me one Sunday morning to make some remarks about the Sacrament, and I told the saints I wouldn't feel to partake of it, and yet I don't remember having seen any of us refusing to take the Sacrament. Is that an indication that you have always been just right in your feelings? Let's not be afraid to repent of our sins, no matter who is around. We should all repent. I know that God's not pleased with me. I know that He would like to see me do, feel and act better. I can't always sympathize with people among us criticizing the people when we are not living as we should. They don't even know who is God, in the first place, and so they err in doctrine, and I am not so sure they are not going to stumble in judgment, and we have got to have a lot more of the Spirit of God or we are going to stumble, too. "If I don't want to go on, I just want to quit here. I feel that we can go through any trial the Lord will permit the Devil to give us, if we will remain pure and humble before God. I bear you my testimony in the name of Jesus, Amen."

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I have listened with purpose to the remarks of the brethren and the things that have been said today, that they went into our hearts. How many of us have heard what has been said? That's what I am 'wondering. "Some time ago, I want you to remember, when I was down in the South, the Lord spoke to me and told me to tell you people to get the spirit of God, and keep it.I have been telling you that there are some trials coming upon us. I haven't spoken for months when I haven't told you of these things. I listened in to Conference today, and many of the things were good, but they were mixed with many things that were not so Good. Many of them placed the authorities above the principles. We want you to remember that the laws of God are the things we've get to attend to. A man yesterday said that obedience is better than sacrifice. Yes, but obedience to what? Is it obedience to man or is it obedience to' the laws of God? If it is obedience to' the laws of God, it is better than sacrifice, but if it is to man then it has no weight.

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"Brothers and sisters, God saw what was coming way back years ago. He saw it and He prepared men to meet this occasion. I have known these men --I've talked to those men --I have been taught under them and been told what the Lord expected, and finally was called into the same order to keep these principles alive. They have gone from worse to worse, and now they won't even let the men go into the Tabernacle block and hear what' s going on. I remember the time standing on the Tabernacle block with Uncle John Woolley, and a. man said, "There s a spy", and I heard Uncle John Woolley say this: I know that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, I know that Brigham Young, Wilford Woodruff, Lorenzo Snow, is a prophet of God, and Heber J. Grant is not a prophet of God and no one can make him one but God himself. This man darted in the door and the next day. Brother Grant was gloriously made and got up and we know what he said, and he has continued talking this way. But that's between

Brother Grant and his God, and we as brethren here have certain work to do and if

God will help us and bless us, we expect to do that work and go on with it. I know one thing -Brother Joseph's mission was to write. Hasn't it been so? Pick up the TRUTH. This is life eternal, to knew the living God and His son, Jesus Christ. We have got to know who God and Jesus Christ are, and when we go back to our Father in Heaven and when we pass by, we will all know Him. We have been with Him, and we will know our Brothers and sisters when we meet on the other side, and if we keep the commandments and are happy enough to live His laws and keep His commandments and if it happens to be our lot to live the celestial law and pass by the angels, then if we will go on and complete our probation that we were sent here to perform. "Now, I want to bear my testimony to you. I don't believe this work is true. I know it's true. I know that what these brethren have been telling you is true, and I know that these brethren have been called by revelation from God. I know they have not taken this honor upon themselves. I know that they have been called. and set apart for that position, and they have not only been called, but they have been prepared for it, many of them, through the blessing they had before we knew them --blessings that they had told them plainly that they would be called and set apart for this very work. God saw fit to call men who have been teaching you the plan of life and salvation, for when the One Mighty and Strong comes, he is going to chose from among men that believe. In any day and age of the world , it has always been the minority that was right. I want you to think of it. There never was a time when the majority was right. Enoch came, but he was with the minority upon the earth and the world was so wicked that the Lord had to pick him am his city up to go on toward perfection.

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The bridegroom cometh -go ye out to meet him. The Lord gave us a parable. There were ten virgins, five wise and five foolish. The wise had oil in their lamps. The five wise ones met their Lord and they were taken, but the five foolish ones were too late. He had gone. Now, are we going to be wise, or are we going to be foolish? That's the question. We all know the power of God among the people. We have settled that time and time again, and we have seen the revelations of God fulfilled, the things that the brethren have told us. Things that Uncle Lorin taught me of prophecies, he has made, I have seen literally fulfilled. The only way we can do is to keep the commandments of the Lord. Let us keep a sweet spirit in us. That is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen."

Closing Song "Let Us All Press On" Benediction: T. R. Dockstader.

Myrtle Allred.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, October 26, 1941 Held at home of Charles F. Zitting, 4118

South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.

1st Song: "Redeemer of Israel" Prayer: Brother Logan Kunz 2nd song: "0, Say What Is Truth"

Brother Marvin Allred

was the first speaker and told the Saints how blessed he was with a new home, how he wants to help the Saint s and. how he loves them; spoke of an experience in Canada when his father was pulling tree stumps and got his legs Broken and through administration was healed.

Brother Collins:

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was "the next speaker and spoke of the wonderful spirit that prevails in the group and that is here today. He bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel, that Jesus is the Christ, that God lives, that Joseph Smith is a true prophet of God. Recited a poem, "Some little drops of water". He read if we will live the Gospel as it has been revealed, we will be exalted. He said he went to the Lord and asked what his mission was in this life. Then he told of a vision he had had (in1919) in which he saw the Savior. ,

Brother Stokes:

bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel, the divinity of Jesus Christ, and that Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God.

Brother Chas. F. Zitting:

It is good to look over this crowd of people and see so many friends. I have been out of the State quite a. bit of the time lately and have missed the friendship of you people. I have been thinking considerable of Brother John when he asked us to get the spirit of the Lord and keep it. I have bad the spirit of the Lord many times on my travels but I find it hard to keep it. We have to deal with Babylon. If you get out and make money for your families you are thrown in with them; if you make money you are a crook. It is a hard thing to-get along in the world. We have old Satan to fight to provide far our large families. He says, you boy s think you can live the Fullness of the Gospel -- plural marriage, but I will show you, you cannot do it, and he has just about done it. To try to live and make a living, it is a hard thing to keep the spirit of the Lord. I have seen the time in the last week or two where I have learned the value of prayer. I have seen where I have been up against it, where I couldn't think right; where Satan was fighting me and I know what it means to pray and ask for help. I want to testify to you that the Lord does help you. If you can't rest, ask the Lord for peace of spirit and mind. If you really do it and mean it, it is the greatest relief you can get. We as a people do not know the meaning of prayer, and do not do it enough. It is not many months when we will see what there is ahead of us. The blood of the Prophet and Savior and the other prophets was not spilled in vain. Let us have our eyes fixed on the Kingdom of God. We live in a day when the destruction are at hand. The wicked are slaying the wicked. We must live close to God so the judgment s will not destroy us. I want to call you people to repentance; we have got to live nearer to God--not so much frivolity, loud laughter, etc. We have got to have more of the spirit of humility. We must live by every

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word of God. Let us not make exception to any law of God. I pray this in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Ed Christensen:

bore his testimony as to. the truthfulness of the Gospel and stated that it has grown each day. He said he hoped the time would. never come when ,he will be ashamed to bear his testimony; that he is happy beyond expression of words for the Fullness of the Gospel, and hopes he can stand through the judgments of the earth. He said he hopes the time will soon come when he can go and preach repentance. The people of the earth need it; we are striving to save the spirits of the earth. The constant cry of Brigham Young, John Taylor, etc. was to get the spirit of God and keep it. May we always have the spirit of love and meekness. He said he wished to God he could overcome his weaknesses; let us put our shoulders to the wheel.

Brother John Y. Barlow:

My Brothers and sisters, it is with a feeling of timidity that I stand before you at this time. I have been greatly edified through the remarks of my brethren. I know as well as you know that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is true, but I am wondering what good it is going to do me if I don't live it--if I don't keep the commandments of God. Every day we have things before us. I have heard Brothers and sisters in the Gospel say things against their Brothers and sisters in this group. I think this group here, before we condemn the others, had better get the beam out of their eyes and keep it out. One Brother comes and says, I am having such an awful time. And other comes and another. Why not look at ourselves? Then get it into our heads that if we are going to be Saints of God, we have got to live as Saints of God. If we are going to be the Saints of God we must love one another; we must live near to GOD. It does not take a prophet to tell you what is coming--the writing is on the wall. We as elders have been sent out into the world to draw out and bring out the blood of Israel. The choice people of the earth have been drawn out and come here to Utah so they could prepare a place for themselves in the eternal worlds. Why do we come out? Simply because we believe in the words of the Lord through the Prophet Joseph. If you will live nearer to God and keep the commandments of God, quit your backbiting, faultfinding, etc. , we can be a power that you have never heard of in your life. Brigham Young said to give him twelve men that will keep the commandments of God and I will turn the world upside down. We would have a 156

power with of God; power that we can handle. When Lorin was here he went from East to West, North to South to try to find the men to make up the Sanhedrin and he couldn't find them. Have we done better now? Take things before the Lord and find out these things for yourselves. Find out whether these men who are trying to lead you have the right to lead. That is I want you to find out. God bless you prepare yourselves! Get' ready, for he that liveth godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution, we haven't been getting we haven't been getting any of it. We have been cast aside, but we haven't been treated as our fathers and mothers were. They had it and they were driven from pillar to post my father was born in Nauvoo right at the time when the brethren crossed the Mississippi. We trailed (the Council) the tracks of these men in a nice automobile. We were sent here to these mountains to prepare ourselves; to prepare for the gathering of Israel we are not getting anywhere in living the Celestial law. May we have it said of us that we are living the laws of God is my prayer in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

We are greatly blessed in having a place to meet. I feel to thank the Lord that these privileges and we have such large congregations. We have had a great many of good things given to us today. The remarks of Brother Barlow in having the spirit of love in our hearts, are wonderful. We learned in Sunday School this morning that the heavens are closed to us unless we keep the spirit of God and live all the laws of God. The time is short when the church will accept the fullness of the Gospel. One of the members of the Quorum of the Twelve has said the church is on a detour. The brethren are beginning to realize that we have got to return to fundaments. I was glad to hear that Brother Marvin (Allred) said his home belongs to the Lord. He hit upon a basic principle. Until we all do that we are not one. Think, my Brothers and sisters for a moment of a condition in heaven in the highest degree of Celestial Glory where a father and son disagree. Can you visualize such a condition? Would it be heaven to us? It certainly would not! The great strive is to become one, to be able to see alike and understand the principles of the Gospel and live them. Brother Barlow touched upon a point -- 'What good is it to know our duty and yet not live up to the fullness of our duty. What will it bring us in the shape of a reward? What will it bring us? It will bring a condemnation. Knowing the truth as we do and then not ling up to that truth spells damnation, if we do not repent and turn around. I frequently have questions asked which if ' we answered would spell damnation if we revealed it. Why? Because you are not prepared to live up to the light that you are asking, I know there are some of the wives who are trying to live the Fullness of the Gospel--same are might close to Goddesses; at least they are living close to perfection. Some have the devil in them. I know women who 157

are in this group who profess great Sanctity, but are full of devils. I know men in the same condition I had recently something that led to my attention to the principle of obeying your husbands. They say their husbands are unworthy of giving laws. I have had that Brought to my attention. We men are under greater responsibilities s than you sisters. Why? Because we under the Priesthood that we hold stand at the head. The Lord commanded Adam not to do a certain deed. The great responsibility of this thing is on the men folks. They are the head. Not that we say it boastingly. That is the mission that we have been appointed to. That not only applies to this world, but to all worlds. It is the law of the Holy Priesthood. We should be better than our wives. We should be purer, more patient, more laving in all respects than we are. I do not want any of the men folks to feel that their wives have been placed under covenant; that they have the right to institute laws not in accordance with the principles of truth, love, etc. It is a very great responsibility placed upon us. You women folks get behind your husbands. We are not going fast enough unless we are one; unless I am one with my Father and my brethren, and you who are living righteous lives. I cannot be one with our Father in Heaven. Why wait? One hundred and five or six years ago the Lord was prepared to redeem Zion on the 11th of September 1836. That is the set day for Zion to be redeemed. Think of it! All you Brothers and sisters will be released from the powers of Satan where the Lord will take you up into His Celestial presence. Think of it--it is one hundred years since then. We think of chaining the devil. We could place him in a condition where he could not have power over us, or place Sickness on our lives. We could do it if we became one. This group in this house today could establish Zion; We could go where Enoch is, if we become one.!! That is the reward the Lord offers us--eternal love, bodies, etc., in the presence of Father. How many of us want to meet Father and Mother? God bless you, Amen.

Solo: (Soprano) by Genna Vee Hammon, "Cast Thy Bread Upon the Waters."

Closing Song: "Parting Hymn." Benediction: Brother Robert Shrewsbury.

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2:00 p.m.

Brother Joseph '.I. Musser presided and conducted.

1st Song: "Come, Come Ye Saint" Prayer: Brother Herbert Smart 2nd Song: "O Say What Is Truth"

Brother Musser:

Brother Barlow sent word from Cedar that he could not be here today.

We have a beautiful day and a beautiful congregation. Someone suggested that since we have so many people from Idaho today that we have an Idaho day.

Brother G. L. Dockstader:

was the first speaker and he spoke of how the Lord has raised different prophets in different countries from the beginning to head his people; that the different countries are outstanding in different things, as the Italians are artists; He raised the philosophers, the musicians, the artists, the poets, etc. He has given us the Gospel of Jesus Christ, that will lead us back into His presence. If we are willing to pay the price? I believe everyone of you would stand crucifixion if necessary. The Gospel of Jesus Christ will save this country from destruction--the Fullness of the Gospel. The angel threatened to destroy Joseph Smith if he did not live the fullness of the Gospel. We may continue in the faith, that we will pay the price, no matter what it costs; may we be saviors on Mt. Zion.

Brother Ingram:

bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Fullness of the Gospel. He said, "If you are the children of Abraham you will do the works of Abraham." He quoted from John 14 concerning Christ the way, the truth and the life.

Brother William Cook:

bore his testimony of the Gospel, and said he was glad for his associates here, and he hoped that we would endure to the end. He said he was grateful for

Brother Hammon and the other brethren whom he dearly loved, and asked the

Lord's blessings on all.

Brother Marion Hammon:

I hear people say how they feel, when they get up to speak. I would like to have the feeling once. I recall one time when I lived in St. Anthony in the 1st Ward. The bi shop called me to be the first speaker; I can't remember going through so much misery in my life. It shook me to the ground. I tried to prepare

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and when I went to the meeting house my heart beat until I could hardly stand. After I got to my feet I left my notes in my pocket and I let go of my feelings and spoke on the Prophet Joseph Smith and the Gospel. I often try to decide our true position. I guess if there is anything I wonder most about it is where we stand. I wonder where we are and how far we are getting. We are standing up under the trials that the adversary is heaping upon us. We are blessed with the bounties of life. Yet there is a moral fight going on in us that is a terrific battle. I admire the disposition we have to separate from the world. I delight in your pure countenances, the modesty of your dress and I know pleasing to the Lord. I believe when we can stand the remarks of those with whom we associate, we are getting the Spirit of God. (then he spoke of Daniel the rolling stone with the moss) When the Kingdom of God reigns in the earth the moss will be all rubbed off. He told of a dream about rolling a ball through the walls of an empty house; each time would come out smaller). That is the condition as it is today. It is a gracious thing that the Lord. has a system of elimination. The gospel is a Gospel of salvation, not damnation. There is no place in the Gospel where you can come to rest. There is no place to quit. Any of you sisters who are looking for a place to quit, you better stop looking now. You give up the Gospel of salvation and you give up everything near and dear. You will never again be able to rally after the crowd has gone on. You people who think you still catch up,with the others gone on the other side in the Celestial Kingdom will be destroyed. I would hate to see my brethren go on without me. That would be the worst feeling I could have. Brothers and sisters; you are the only ones who will exalt yourselves. How would you feel if you were-exalted above your Brothers and sisters. We all regard Brother Joseph here as a man of accomplishment. What if he were exalted above the Brother he associated with. It would turn him to hell, and that is what would happen to me. Brother Brigham Young and others have said they wanted to remain with the Brother they worked with. We all boast of hoping for salvation. How many of us are willing to let others have the same privilege? You cannot muster enough hate in your hearts to cast your brethren down. It is only their own actions. I think of rolling rock s down a hill. That is what is going to happen to us--you will be knocked down if you don't stop your chattering and faultfinding. We have got to be charitable. You sisters have got to follow your leader. I have not seen a woman's countenance who is shining above that of her husband. If you cannot love your husband, how are you going to love someone else's husband? We had better keep our eyes on our own business. When you people stick your necks into a yoke, you carry through. I see no time this side of the Millennium when you ,will be taken from one man and given to another. If one man has a quorum (of wives ) and cannot make a go of it, he cannot be taken from them and given to another; he will not make it without them either. If you 160

have a disposition that you want to run out on your troubles, you are going to make a failure. I bear my testimony that the Gospel is true and the. t Joseph Smith is a prophet of God just as much as I believe Jesus is the Christ. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Chorus: "Grant Us Peace"

Brother Charle s Zitting:

I think that is once I said to much before meeting I told Brother Joseph I had lived in Idaho19 years. I was born in Ogden and they took me to Idaho when 5 years old. I raised potatoes s du ring the war days. I was in New York City last year and on a big sign I saw "One-half Idaho potato--20st". Somebody made a lot of money on the potatoes by the time they got to the. East and I saw where Utah eggs were $1 a dozen. When you see things like that in the East, it makes you realize what a wonderful country we have here. I saw some of mining back East and it n:ade me think of the gold, silver, etc., in Utah. We are living in a great place. Idaho has lead. We have great agricultural centers. I want to say that the people who produce those things are making an honest living. You are the luckiest people on earth. It is on account of our forefathers; One thing we are going to have something to eat if we put it away. Have plenty of vegetables in your cellars; plenty of sacks of wheat and canned Goods. The nation has more wheat stored than it has ever done before. We should have a little storehouse and granary in our basements. Store beans if you can't have a place for wheat. Remember these are some of the instructions that you receive in these meetings. You hear enough if you will remember it. Keep your selves clean from the sins of the world. Right now you people are living better than you have for years. Put away things while you have a chance. Things are going to happen fast when they start in this country. Keep close to the Lord and keep yourselves clean from the world. I pray this in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Ianthus Barlow: I know the Gospel is true because of some of the things that have came to me of late. I wonder how we will stand. A man and woman stand before God and angels and make covenants. If a man marries a woman he does not love, he will have to go on with that woman. He can't turn back, or lose all his women. If you do not have troubles, you are not worth a darn. These brethren have the right to seal on earth and that is sealed in heaven. I hope and pray that we as a people will be true to our covenants. From out your troubles yourselves. Just walk up to a 161

looking-glass and take a look; that is your trouble, you are it, why not iron out your troubles among yourselves. Was very much impressed with Brother Hammon's remarks. Today I am pleased more than ever before that I came through the lineage that I came through; for 'the blessings that I have. I am thankful for all that God has given me; far the friends that I have. Some of the men in this group are nearer to me than my own sons. I pray that the Lord may bless us all, that we may remain true and faithful to all that God has given us.

Joseph W. Musser: I spent a little time in Idaho when I was a little fellow. "I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. etc." (John 15:1-9) There is a correct principle given. in those verses, indicating that we are not able to stand' alone. The stalk is Jesus Christ and we are the branches, and so long as we abide in Jesus Christ and keep His commandments, we will abide in Him; we will be strong in knowledge, wisdom, etc., so long as we abide in The vine. We sometimes see limbs of trees become hallow and sickly and withered up. The vine ceases to abide in that tree. It has ceased to receive strength from that tree. We find in the church and in the Priesthood group, some branches began to wither and shrivel up. We know that it has ceased to receive substance from the vine. We have another people grafted into the Priesthood vine, and after while they begin to wither and die. They shut themselves off from the life of that vine; just as Judas shut himself from the name of Jesus. If I ask for anything, I ask through Jesus Christ. He is the vine. If you are worthy It will be given you, if it is right that you get it. We must remember that Christ is ;he source of life to the entire world. We can come down one step and say that Jesus is the tree to this people and we are the branches. Sometimes people--Brother Morrison said last night that his mission president said the only mistake Brother Joseph made was plural marriage. That man ceased to receive strength from the vine and he will wither and die unless he repents and the spirit comes back to him. But he cannot receive of the strength of the Vine unless he believes in the vine and keeps the commandments that the vine has taught. I was told of a sister in Idaho who said that even if God Almighty should come down and tell her -that plural marriage was right, she would not believe it. That woman ceased to receive her strength from the vine and unless she repents she will shrivel up and she will have to go through hell to get into life eternal. There are certain laws that the gospel brings to you. Everything is predicated upon law, as the Lord tells us in section 130 of the D. & C. and everyone who receives salvation will have to obey that. It is our desire in live a celestial law. And why do ·we desire to live that law? in order that we might go back into the presence of Father and Mother, Adam, 162

Noah, Peter, James and John; Joseph/Heber, Brigham, etc., and therefore we are trying to live a celestial law. And most of us here in this room -today, if you haven't entered in to the principle have a desire to so. Joseph did not want to live it when it was first given him, and he fought against it as something that had to be lived at that time. The angel came to him three times and on the last trip he drew his sword and threatened Joseph's life. "If you will not establish that principle, another will be raised up." Joseph knew what would happen, that it would cost him his life. But it took courage to face the world in that day, to introduce a law that the entire world would fight. It took courage and it took the spirit of the Lord, and Joseph couldn't have done it if he had not had the spirit of the Lord. People accuse us of wanting to rush into polygamy because of the sexual desire. Brigham and. Heber did not want to rush into it. John Taylor had to do it, and Lorenzo Snow. Brother Snow told Joseph that he wanted to do nothing but preach the Gospel and not be encumbered It with a family. "But I do want a kingdom" he said. Then he asked him how he expected to go back into the presence of God. How could he expect to unless he lived that law? Brother Snow's eye s began to open. He took two wives and still others. President Taylor said that plural. marriage is the greatest cross that men took upon themselves since the time of Adam. And you people have found that out. We do not want you to bring your troubles to us, but we would to God that every man who lives this principle had the spirit of the Lord so that he can live this principle right. Yet it is almost inevitable that some should come to the Priesthood council. I realize that and that is the reason why we are placed in your midst. But we wish the people would get strong and live sufficiently close to the Lord and receive His revelations. There is not a man in the house today who is not a prophet of God, if you are living properly, according to the principles of God. Let every man be a prophet of God. Any man who is .. honoring the Priesthood and magnifying it, is a prophet. The Holy Ghost is a spirit of prophecy. We want all of you brethren and sisters to be prophets and prophetesses not to guide and lead your husbands, but to guide and lead yourselves. The sister who is living in the spirit of prophecy is living the marital relation as God wants us to live it. You sisters will not quarrel with your husband's if you have that gift of prophecy. And we can all live it if we live according to the spirit of prophecy. I had occasion to speak this morning on the sacrament. The whole church is partaking of the sacrament unworthily. It is bringing them damnation. Every time you partake of the sacrament, you enter into a covenant because you take upon yourselves the name of Christ and that you will always remember Him and keep His commandment s.

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None of us are keeping His commandments fully. But it is our ambition of life, to keep His commandment s. What are those commandments ? One is, "Love thy neighbor as thy self. "Those who are not doing that have ceased to receive life from the vine. It is a definite commandment. How-many of us today, if the Lord were to tell us to organize and enter into the United Order and have everything in order--That is draw from one great storehouse those things that we need and are entitled to--how many of us would bury our greed and selfishness. I wonder if we could find one person here today who is prepared to do it. I know some are close to that condition; but can we do it ? Have we sufficient control over ourselves to permit the other fellows in get what we do not need and get out and help the other fellow in preference e to helping ourselves. If you love a woman, you will do everything for her; you will take the burden away from her as much as you can. You will take the hard knocks and let her take the soft knocks. Now why can't we do that with our neighbor if we love him? Why can't we do that? In that way we approach perfection. That is the thing that we. have got to come to. We have ceased. growing if we do not come to it. If we do not come closer to living it each day, we have ceased partaking of the vine. The Son is one with the Father. When the disciples had the spirit of Christ upon them, they organized a united order. And a system 'was established through which all things were held in common among those early 3aints. We will not stand it until we are starved into it. It is the word of the Lord to you! we are going to be starved into it. We will see our children, our neighbors hungry, when we will not have anything to feed them on. And when we see these things come, we will draw in our horns, and then we will go to Him and say, "Thy 'will and not mine be done." The only law that will exalt us, outside of the law of Celestial marriage, is the United Order. Now Brothers and sisters, why not start right now. See if there is any bitterness in your hearts against this sister or that Brother Why this dear sister (Pansy Darger), she sat and looked into my eyes and said (upon the death of her son, Elggren), "Why I am going to take care of his family". Here is a girl who is one, who is going to become one of the elect. I want to testify to that in your behalf. God loves us, if we will do His will. If you have a bad temper, make it your mission to overcame it. Make that your life mission. We have got to become pure, sweet, holy; God bless you, Amen.

Closing Song: The Spirit of God."

Benediction: Brother Ora Moore (Provo). LJAllred.

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Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, November 23, 1941 Held at the home of Charles. F. Zitting, 4118 South 5th East, S:llt Lake City, Utah, 2: 00 p.m.

Brother Joseph W. Musser presided.

Brother Marion Hammon can ducted

1st Song: "The Lord Is My Light" Prayer: Brother Ed Christensen 2nd Song,: "Guide Me to Thee"

Brother Hammon

gave greetings to the Saints and continued: "I pray that the prayer offered will be realized. I am thankful, Brothers, and sister, for your association. There is something within me when I see Brother Joseph's sons come along.

Brother Guy Musser:

I am reminded of a story told of an occasion that happened in London some time ago. There was a large gathering in honor of a great poet. Many celebrities were at the court and during the course of the evening the poet was asked to give his version of the 23rd Psalm he understood. it. At the close of the rendition, the minister was asked to give his version of it. Afterwards there was no applause, but tears were in the eyes of the hearers. The poet said, "This man knows God." So, we are here today because to know Gods commandments and we have come to partake of the spirit of the Lord. I am grateful beyond mortal expression that my life has been spared, that I might meet with you. I remember the Lord said we learn not only to love our own household, but all those who believe as we do who cleave unto us. So I have found among the people of the Lord men attached to gather who love the Lord. Coming out here in this section of the city brings many memories of when I was a boy to mind. I remember my dear Mother, a sweet chaste spirit. She was a perfect example of womanhood, not light; minded; pure in seeking the Lord. And my father, I am grateful beyond expression that my Heavenly Father permitted me to come through these two pure good people. As the Savior said upon the mount among other things, "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. That to me, is the sum and sub stance of this work: To develop the purity of heart, that we might see God as the sons of God, that we might be gods. And I know that in the 165

principle of plural marriage it is necessary that we become gods. I am grateful that God has expressed mercy that He has given me the privilege to try to live thus; that, we may develop power over mortality and have eternal lives. This is what the principle means to me and I am proud of it. 'Every fiber of my being says too. I am grateful for the opportunity of coming "through the principle, and through this royalty, and I am proud of it. I am trying to prove myself worthy in having this lineage. I pray that I might have that privilege as the Lord deems me worthy and be prepared. I love you all and I am desirous of being with you. I want you to know that I am delighted with you and whatever I can do in this work I am desirous of doing it; for I consider that you are my Brothers and sisters in the work. I am. thankful for these Good brethren. I testify to you that they are men of God, men who have been chosen by God to lead this particular work at this time. And the Lord knows why he chose them because of their meekness and worthiness. And I am grateful for these faithful women who are giving themselves to this work. I know what they suffer. I know the faith and the humility that they must possess, because I was raised side by side with a mother who knew what it was. I pray that the Lord might bless us, that we might work side by side, that we might bear with each other day by day that we might be pleasing unto the Lord. That he might accept us, that we too may become Gods. I bear you my testimony that this work is true and the only through it and it alone can we come unto our eternal Father. In the name of Jesus Christ Amen

Special prayer for Robert Ayers in Canada and Sister Lenora T. Jeffs (by Brother Joseph Jessop.)

Choir: "Though Deepening Trials".

Brother T. R. Docstader:

I knew by the Spirit of the Lord that I was going to be called on. Since the prayer of Brother Jessop, the spirit has moved on me and I prophesy in the name of Jesus Christ that Sister Jeffs will be made whole. I have that feeling. I feel well in the work. There has been no time since I embraced the truth that I felt stronger, I am grateful that I have been touched by the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I have had very difficult times in my feelings in my life. As my patriarchal blessing says, I will many times proffer the way to salvation; that I desire to do right and keep in the path of the Lord, that the Lord has seen fit to touch my understanding. I am grateful for the privilege of your association. I am deeply touched with the heart to heart feeling that Brother Guy Musser delivered to us. I deem it, Brothers and sisters, one of the greatest sermons we have heard are just 166

such messages that Brother Guy gave us this afternoon. Many times we hear sermons that are flowery and given with great eloquence, but I would much rather hear from the spirit of the Lord and when it comes from the heart; simple testimonies that touch our very souls. We are a blessed people. I am sure, from my own feelings, that we do not sense our blessings to the extent that we should. We are the salt of the earth, if we live up to our blessings. The weight of the redemption of Zion is upon us. It is our responsibility; it is our duty and privilege to bear off the Kingdom that the Lord has revealed to the Prophet Joseph. Now, Brothers and sisters, let us rededicate ourselves. Let it be a day to those who have not put their whole soul to the work of the Lord, let it be the start. There is no time like the present. I am prompted that the time is getting very short and if we do not take advantage of the opportunities. it is going to be to our sorrow. I do not feel to mince words, but I feel to say those few words. Let us press on. I have learned through my own experience that once you have tasted of the spirit and lose it, you are of all people most miserable.

Brother Roy Johnson:

My Brothers and Sisters, I trust that the spirit of the Lord will take the lead in my mind, that the spirit that has been here may continue. I have been very much interested in the remarks and prayers that have been uttered this afternoon, and also in the lessen given this morning in Sunday School. Oh, how beautiful is the Gospel of Jesus Christ when we understand it,--what a wonderful opportunity of becoming the redeemers of Zion. In our lesson in Sunday School the theme was Brought out on what a wonderful opportunity the people in the camp of Zion had of redeeming Zion had they kept the commandments of the Lord. But so great were the trials they were put to that some among them could not stand. Today the Lord is trying to educate a people to that same mission--to redeem Zion. And he is going to raise a people up who will redeem it. That is our opportunity. That is why these men who have been called to lead us, to get us united and understand the Gospel as the Lord wishes us to, are here. It is our opportunity to carry this work through to completion. It is our opportunity to take hold of ourselves and overcome the weaknesses of the flesh; purify our hearts that we may be able to become one. It is the only place on the earth where the Gospel in its fullness is being taught today and it the only place where the Spirit of the Lord is working upon the people. I bear you my testimony that the Gospel is true and the opportunity is before us to redeem Zion, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Rulon Jeffs;

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I rejoice in the spirit of the Lord that is here today, and I trust that what I may say will add to the beautiful spirit that is here among us today. When I compare my former condition with my family by my side with what I have today without that, I have nothing but rejoicing in my heart, I but wish to God they were with me. I have the promise from the Lord that I shall have them by my side eventually, and that those who have sought to keep them from me will be punished. I want to express as Brother Guy did that I have been privileged to come through the royal lineage; that my father, grandfather and great-grandfather lived this law. I thank Gal for my angel mother and far the promise that was made today. I thank God for my noble father and I hope and pray that I will do nothing to be a disgrace to my father's name. I thank God that I have a noble sister, and that she has entered the law in such a wonderful family. I have nothing but rejoicing in my heart here today. I rejoice in the privilege of being guided by these men, and I say this in the name of Jesus Christ,' Amen.

Bm. Chas. Zitting: Before the meeting I felt a spirit here that made me pause for a moment. There was a spirit here that made me believe that there were other spirits here from the other side. We are certainly having a spiritual feast here together. I have had going through. my mind the last week wondering wherein we as a people could help one another. The ,first two great commandment s are: "Thou Shalt love the Lord thy God with all they heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength. This is the first commandment. And the second is like this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." (Mark 12:36) I had this pointed out to me more clearly this week: than at any other time. I trust that I may have your faith and prayers that I may walk closer to that line.. I pray that we as a people will strive to keep the spirit of God in our homes. I feel it a privilege to have you people meet here. I am going to ask that we live nearer to one another and be more thoughtful of one another. I pray this in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

I am very grateful, my brethren and sisters, for a testimony of the truth. I have been working in this work for something over 60 years; since I was drafted into the primary association as its secretary. And I do not remember a time when I did not feel that I knew that the Gospel was true. I remember once fasting and praying something like three days; I wanted some manifestation. As a matter of fact, I wanted to see an angel, and when got pretty hungry and very humble so that the Lord could talk to me, the voice of the spirit said, why are you asking for a testimony of the fullness of the Gospel when you already have it? And I stopped 168

asking because I already had it. Different subjects were Brought up in our Sunday school class this morning. One was the subject of speaking in tongues. I being called upon Brought up the fact that we are not favored now as the people were in ancient days because of our weaknesses. The gift of tongues is one that both the Lord and Satan manipulates, and we in this day and age want to follow after the spirit of the world; we want to be like the Jones. It would be very easy for Satan to deceive us and the Lord in His blessing has kept that gift from us that we might not have greater contention than we have at the present time. That gift is a wonderful gift. The gift of healing is a wonderful gift, and some of our brethren are blessed greatly with it. The gift of discernment is a great gift; a gift that enables us to understand men and women. We are publishing an article in the Truth writhen between James Arlington Bennett and the Prophet Joseph where in Mr. Bennett tried to flatter the Prophet in order to get the Mormon people to vote for him at the polls to elect him Governor of Illinois. The Prophet understood the spirit of this man and wrote one of the most wonderful letters to him that I have ever read, denouncing general political tactics and indicating that he was being guided by the Lord. This man Bennett asked for the privilege of being a right hand man to the prophet. Joseph rejected him and said that God is his right hand man. The gift of discernment is a wonderful gift. We are placed in the hands of the Holy Ghost so that we may magnify our lives; so that all the gifts of the Holy Ghost we must try to live for. I was impressed the other day when reading about the time when the Prophet asked when would the Lord come. The Lord told Joseph if he lived until he was 85 years old he would see the face of the Savior. But Joseph was martyred and many things happened after that in the church. God has promised that if you ask, you shall receive. If you will ask of me you shall receive; if you will knock it shall be opened unto to you. (D. &. C. 11:5 &. 6) God does not make rash promises and He lives up to His promises; so that when the Lord says ask and ye shall receive, and Joseph asks, he has the right to receive. But it was not for him to receive, but he received answer to what he asked. Bother me no more. Let it suffice for the present. We are all in the same position as the Prophet Joseph Smith. If we will put ourselves in a position of faithfulness; the Lord cannot help answering our petitions. He might defer the time in receiving it, but the promise is there. It is up to us to prepare ourselves to receive. There is no man and no woman here today but who can get an answer to prayer. It does not mean that the Lord comes down personally, but through, His agents, His Priesthood. Oliver Cowdery asked on his knees for a testimony that (that was before he received the Priesthood) and Joseph told Oliver about his asking for that blessing from the Lord, and Joseph received a revelation that Oliver was asking for a testimony and Joseph revealed it to Oliver and gave him the answer. Why? because Joseph was 169

the head of the Priesthood on the earth. So Brothers and sisters, we receive our answer through that channel. But the fact still remains that t if we are doing our part, if we are living our religion and we go to the Lord for a blessing, we are going to get same kind of answer. I doubt that there are very few of the Latter day Saint in this house that have not had that experience who could not testify that the Lord had not answered their prayers to their satisfaction. If we are honest and truthful, we are bound to get it. I was impressed with Jude 4 & 14, "for there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, (that is pure language; that means that they were once godly, so they are speaking of the Saints who had apostatized--they cannot become ungodly until they have been godly) turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. (14) "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh, and ten thousand of his saints; " The Lather-Day Saints today who were at one time Godly, many of them who have lived close to the Fullness, have become ungodly through their rejection of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Therefore, Jude was calling the Saints to repentance. And that is true today. Now, Brothers and sisters, I do not want to take up much time today but I want to call your attention to that one key--that it devolves upon us individually. I hear many folks get down on their knees everyday and ask for grace and strength to love one another and to become united and remain united. The best way to accomplish that is to put yourself into that condition. It is easy to supplicate the Lord. It is easy to draw out a picture, but the greater part of it is do it ourselves. To resolve in ourselves that we shall be that which the Lord wants to make us. The Lord cannot make us do things, but if we ask the Lord to take away our weaknesses, then it is up to us to dig those weaknesses out of our nature. I was talking this morning after Sunday School about how long it takes to dig out of the things that we have learned. I cannot understand how I have learned so much ignorance. Why, we should be as strong as the everlasting hills with what we have been taught and gone through. The Lord is working with us unceasingly, but we are week. But my recipe is, that each individual must get close to the Lord. God bless you, Amen.

Brother Marion Hammon:

This morning in Sunday School I made a few remarks in the presence of some of you people regarding the Saints in Jackson County, that it might appear to you that I was trying to justify their cause. Maybe they were doing better than we are doing. I want to say that I have no feeling in my heart to hold my life when it is necessary to give it for the gospel. It is not in my heart, and if I ever fail to live up 170

to the commandments of God, it is not because of that, but because of my weaknesses. Joseph said the Gospel is going to roll forward. I 'would much rather that my family lay away my body in honor than in disgrace. That was the feeling of the Saints in Jackson County. (Told the story of Thomas B. Marsh going on a mission. to Canada; wife of Prophet and his sister, and the cream from the cow). Brigham Young called the people poor devils and asked them were they had been. They had stopped on the side lines. Let us stand by our post. You are no better than the Prophet or Brigham Young who gave their lives for the Gospel. (He then spoke of Amulek and .Alma. and the suffering they did.) I want to relate these instances to stimulate you saint s. I would rather live without a tent than to live on stolen money. I rejoice in the spirit that we have had today.

Closing Song: "Now Let Us Rejoice. " Benediction: Brother James Martin.

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Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, Held Dec. 14, 1941 at home of, Chas. F. Zitting, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.

1st Song: "Praise to the Man" Prayer: Brother Don Wayman 2nd Song: "Let the Holy Spin t Guide You"

Brother Fred Jessop:

was the first speaker and he bore his testimony as to the truthfulness of the Gospel and said how happy he was to be in this gathering. He said we have started a great work and prayed that we would continue and realize the importance of the work; that he knows that the brethren leading us are bearing a greater responsibility than we realize. Let us get in the harness and keep in the right direction.

Brother D. W. Jeffs:

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Of late a great many thoughts have passed through my mind, especially when your Helpmates are suffering in body when they are going through a particular struggle in life and do not know why, and men you can sit by the bedside of a noble spirit, with the veil so near that you can almost see what the result would be on the other-side; and when you have come to a point in life when there must be a turning point in one's life because they want to stay or are called to the other side, and when you have concluded under that condition that the will of God will be done and you feel the turning point comes. It goes to show that one is entitled to an understanding if you live near the Lord. There are times in my life when I wonder the reason for things that exist. And sometimes when you kneel down before your bed and supplicate your Father in Heaven, sometimes it is hard to pray. Therefore, seek in prayer the things that are most needed in the will of the Lord in your life. There is not a man who lives who does not have these blue and dark spells, no doubt for their good and benefit. I have revolved in my mind my experiences covering the last 45 or 50 years, and when I take in account of the wonderful things that the Lord has blessed me with, I cannot help but note one thing in particular: "Let the Holy Spirit Guide You", the song we just sang wonderful composition both in music and words.. (He then read the first verse, page 94, Sunday School song book). How true it is what the Priesthood has stated, "Get the spirit of God and keep it. (He then read the 2nd verse of the song.) How many understand that? How are we going to get the Spirit of God? How are we going to keep it? We can never accomplish a thing in this life without the Spirit of our Father in Heaven. The Lord has made a pattern given in the D & C, Sec. 52:14-19: "And again, I will give unto you a pattern in all things, that ye may not be deceived; for Satan is a broad in the land, and he goeth forth deceiving the nations--Wherefore he that prayeth, whose spirit is contrite, the same is accepted of me if he obey mine ordinances, etc.19 The spirit of God cleaveth to truth; truth cleaveth to truth , virtue cleaveth to virtue. So if we live our lives according to the commandments of God, we will have eternal lives. Jesus says, "The Father and I are one; not one in body, but one in truth; "and except ye are one, ye are not one of mine." If we could realize the importance of getting the spirit of God and keeping it. The time is coming as sure as God lives, when every one of us are going to be tested, even as gold is tested seven times in the furnace. The Prophet said that these are for your good. How hard it is to put up with these things that come up. How necessary it is to get the spirit of God and keep it. Some of the things that drive the spirit of God away from us are selfishness, avariciousness, selfaspiration. Sometimes I wonder where I stand. I was impressed with the unity, kindness, the pictures of truth and honor in the countenances of the members of this group. The Savior said they will come 172

from the north east, south and west they shall sit down as one and the children of the wicked will be cast out. There are members of this group that will be guided and receive the whole truth. With the truths that are taught from day to day, I wonder how many of them we put to practice in our lives. In closing I wish to say that I have seen in night vision the conditions that are coming upon this land, and the conditions 'that will come upon this people, and the faithful people. There will be uprisings in this land that will cause a revolution, and there will be famine and all manner of bloodshed. My God bless you and may His inspiration be with us. I know that the Gospel is true and it is the power of salvation unto those who obey it. I pray God's blessings upon us that we may stand firm and true, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

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was the next speaker and he spoke of the war situation and said that the things that should be upper most in our minds is keeping the commandments of God, following the spirit of the Lord, and keeping the spirit of the Lord in our homes. A few years ago I had opportunities to speak before student bodies. Now I cannot speak as fluently; I have to rely on the Lord to give me the ability to speak well. Each time it becomes more easy; and someday I hope I will be able to stand and speak with power and preach the Gospel. I love all you people, and hope we may remain united; that we will become a powerful group.

Song: by the Choir, "The Morning Breaks."

Brother John Y. Barlow:

My Brothers and sisters, It has been some time since I was with you and I an glad to be back again, to see the faces of those who are striving to keep the commandments of God. I thought while the young men were talking here today, we as a people have been taught the truth. God has come here, stop and think what has happened. First we have the young boy praying in the woods (Joseph Smith); then the Father and Son appeared to him. Before that the people believed that God was a spirit. (Then he went on and related the other experiences of the Prophet's early life--the Angel Moroni appearing to him, John the Baptist conferring the Priesthood. upon him; Peter James and John coming to him; Joseph going from home to home preaching to the people; building the temple; Moses conferring the Priesthood again; Elijah conferring the keys of the dispensation; etc.) The Lord gave the early Saints these things, laws and commandments and told them how to live; then covetousness and greed stepped in. The Lord told them if they would keep his commandment s Zion would be redeemed. They did not do it. They were 173

driven out of Missouri; 6000of the Saints perished in one place and so on down to the present time. I was thinking when one of these men who spoke today said he hoped that he might be able to preach the Gospel--let me tell you he will! A great many of our boys who are being taught will carry this work on. They are destined to do it. God. held many of the choice spirits to come forth in this day of the world when it needed lots of faith and encouragement to go on with this work. Now we are coming to a very serious time. We have many of our boys who will have to go to the war. Do we like it? No. But we have had preached to us that the time would. come when the Priesthood would save the constitution of the United States. That was an inspired constitution. Every man was be born with his free agency. The minute you give up your agency you are lost. We have got to keep the commandments of God. I was shown that we have got to prepare ourselves. How many of you have heard of the vision of Uncle Lorin Woolley? That vision showed that there would be two world wars; one would never reach the U. S. and the other would come to the Missouri River. Some would come from the east and some from the west. Everything is preparing itself to get into shape for the things that have been prophesied. In the vision there was a line from the northern part of the U. S. to the southern part. Some people were on one side of the line; the line kept widening until the people had to be on one side or the other, etc. Now Brothers and sisters, the line is broadening, and the time is coming when we will have to take a stand with the laws of God. I am glad to see so many here from the East as a result of our trip to that part. A few years ago we went to California and I told them exactly what would happen as it is today. Some said, "We will get out when the bullets start flying." But the roads will soon be blocked. They have stopped selling new tires. Automobiles will not run without wheels. The Prophet Joseph said there will be people coming from the east, most of them women. What is going to be the result? We have been told that if we keep the commandments of God that God will protect us, even if He had to send fire from heaven. God bless our young men and women. The women will be drafted just the same as men. Let us get the Spirit of God around us so nothing will hurt us. If we are called into the war, if we have the Spirit of God nothing will hurt us. God bless you, Amen.

Brother Joseph W. Musser:

Certainly we have been impressed with the remarks of Brother Barlow and those preceding him. I am certain we are all impressed with the atmosphere around us. I recall that a great many of us have been restless wanting to know when these things will be Brought about, and wanting to hasten the Lord in bringing them about. But now some are beginning to shake and shiver. I think I 174

have made remarks and Brother Barlow has, that things are happening. (He then gave the example of Esau being jealous of his Brother Jacob who obtained the greater blessing, and how the word of the Lord was carried out.) It was the Amulekites who, with the children of Israel under the leadership of Moses came up and fought in the rear after they had made a covenant of peace. The Lord caused a record to be made that the Amlulekites would be killed, and their record would be closed up behind them. Quite a while ensued before that happened. But it was the word of the Lord. The commandment to Samuel was given to Saul to destroy the Amulekites destroy their babies, cattle, etc. Saul disobeyed and he took the best cattle, etc. and Brought them home. The Lord told Saul that he had failed Him. David came on the scene. He attacked the Amulekites and killed nearly all of them, and others succeeded in wiping them out of the earth and they had no people left. When God makes a record or a promise. He is bound and those things are accomplished and we cannot get away from it. I know there is a great deal o:f agitation. Our young boys do not want to go to war. We are expected to render service to this government. I have four boys who are the age to be called, I feel The Morning is Breaking and the Shadows are Falling. I can see the great Millennium, it reign coming in. But all these things that are happening at the present time are foreshadowing that time. The morning is breaking when we will be free to serve the Lord and keep His commandments where our little children will begin to prophesy and speak: in language that cannot be writhen; wherein we will grow to become gods; and grow to take over the Kingdom. Today we have 165 grown people in this house (over 200 persons). What are those 45 children and babies preparing themselves for? These are the ones that the hope of Israel will come to pass through. Brother John am I will be called; and Brother Marvin and the other young men here will be called to take over the Priesthood. And the veil will be removed and they will exercise the Priesthood as Enoch and many of the great prophets have done. The Prophet and others exercised their Priesthood in such a way that the enemy could not destroy the work. And that is the mission of the young people coming up at the present time. It is a glorious work. Zion's banner stands unfurled. The time will come when this people will go back to Jackson County as they qualify for that privilege, and there will not be any power on earth or hell that will stop them from taking possession of that land from which our forefathers were driven. Sometimes they say, "Go back and buy it. Why buy it--it is ours. It is ours and our fathers and our children's. If we are faithful and true, that land will be placed back in our possession. The Lord says the time would come when all the government s of the earth would be dissolved and that is just as much a record as the record the Amulekites had placed against them. The Lord revealed to President Woodruff that the spirit of the Lord would be taken from the people. Our own 175

senators are in confusion. They are striving to defend the U. S., but the policies that they put before us are not right. Lorin (Woolley) said the time would com e men they would be going after each other with knives and pistols. Now, Brothers and sisters, there are no Germans, Japs, etc. All that I recognize is the situation of the Kingdom of God. I do not care what nation you. belong. to, if you will keep the commandment of God, He will take care of you. Let us not let our hearts become embittered toward each other. Let us realize that we have come out of the world and the world is not in us. We do not care where we were from, we are not of the world. Let the world go on and fight and kill itself, and let us remain at home and do what the Lord wants us to do. If' we are called, trust in the Lord to preserve our lives in what we do. Have humility; get the Spirit of God and keep it. Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. This is our earth· and we will inherit it, if we are meek and humble. There is no power that will take it away from us. God bless you, Amen.

Closing Song: "True to the Faith". Benediction: Brother I. W. Barlow. LJAllred.

Minutes Sunday Afternoon Meeting, December 28 ,1941 Held at Brother Chas. F. Zittmg' s home, 4118 South 5th East, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2:00 p.m.

Brother John Y. Barlow presided and conducted.

1st Song: "Come, One and All." Prayer: Brother Reed Morrison 2nd Song: "Joseph Smith's First Prayer".

Brother Guy Musser:

I am certainly glad to be here again with your Brothers and sisters to enjoy the Spirit of the Lord on this Sabbath day. I do not know that there is a better place in the world than to be here in these meetings.

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There have been many things pass through my mind during the past few weeks. I feel very grateful that the Lord has permitted us to live here in the valleys of the mountains. I think back a few years when I was in California and the prophets were there telling us what would transpire in the future; and now we see those things transpiring. So we should be thankful that we have the prophets of God to tell us the word of the Lord. Indeed it is a privilege to be associated with you people and to have at our head these men who have the power to lead us; and they have, I can testify to that, mainly because the spirit of the Holy Ghost whispers to me. I am grateful that they came to California to warn the Saints, and feel to acknowledge my thankfulness to them for it. I feel to bear my testimony to you today of these things. I am grateful for the association of you good people. You are striving to keep the commandments of the Lord. If there is a people whom the Lord could use, it is you:! people. I pray the Lord to bless us that we may go forth to serve Him, to strive to keep the commandments. I pray the Lord to bless these men who lead us. I pray that we may hold up their hands and stand behind these men. If we do the words of the Priesthood, the Lord will bless us. The Lord will allow Satan to almost overtake us, but He will protect us. He is God and whatsoever He commands is true and just. I know that Joseph Smith was indeed a true prophet of God. I testify that only by this Gospel and through it can we be admitted into the Eternal worlds. I pray that we may be faithful and strong and that we may enjoy this work that we are in, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother Arnold Boss:

My Brothers and sisters, I am very glad to be here today; glad to have the privilege of meeting with you. I was going through the Temple grounds a few months ago and attended the organ recital. I attended the guide who said, "Welcome to Salt Lake City." Here we meet in this house and we have enjoyed the Spirit of the Lord. I have attended meetings at the Tabernacle, but I have never tasted of the spiritual food there that I have received here.

We are at the close of a old year. God's period of time commences with the birth of the Savior. We are living in the most momentous time in the history of the world. I said last time I stood up to talk to you that within six months you would see a great change in the world. War has come for our country. I know that we are

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on 'the eve of some of the greatest changes since the new world was discovered by Columbus. I was glad to hear Brother Guy say that he obeyed the Council of the Priesthood of God and came away from the coast. There is no safety on either coast because it has not been consecrated ground. The people who will not come from there will see the day when they will wish to God that they had come from there. Before the Manti Temple was erected Brigham Young said, "This is the place where Mormon the prophet stood and said, This is the place where a temple of God will be erected.'" The way he knew this was through the Spirit of God. When President Young said, "This is the place," he knew what he was talking .about. You will see the wisdom of God in bringing the people to this land that has been consecrated. When the Saints came here they located on the key spot of the American continent. It has been blessed by the prophets of God. We are the recipients of some of those blessings today. President Young dedicated this place on July 25 Heber C. Kimball praying at Brighton when Johnson's army coming through, blessed this land once more and blessed everything in it. He told the Saints that this ground was theirs and to keep it and get title to it. But now look what the situation is today. We are living in a moment and period in the world history. People's faith has been shattered. We are going into a wonderful new era. I have a testimony that God' s Priesthood is here in these valleys of the mountains. God will not change; His principles are eternal. God expects us to be true to ourselves and to the covenants we have made with Him. There never was a time when I was more thankful that I am here in the valleys of the mountains. I can picture what is taking place in the other parts of the world. God has told the people of the world to flee to the Rocky Mountains. We are here and wish it was more. I thank God for His blessings to me and for the association of you dear people here. The Gospel is light and truth and it warms your soul. God has given me that testimony that this is the truth and I know it. No matter where the truth is taught it is the same. His Gospel plan is here and is never to be taken away. People will come here by the tens of thousands and we will see manifestations we have never seen before. People have got to come where they can get that power of salvation. Here is where the keys of authority are. I thank God for this land, for the clean air, the mountains, that I am blessed to be here. May the Lord help us to be true to the covenant s we have made and I ask the Lord to protect us, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

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said he wished to live the laws of God. He asked God's blessings on all that we may live exemplary and for eternal lives.

Soprano Solo by Jenna Vee Hammon , "Cantique de Noel."

Brother Marion Hammon:

I feel considerable confusion in attempting to address you. I am fearful sometimes that I speak my feelings instead of what the Lord wants me to speak. I recall Brother Joseph turning to me and asking me. who I would like to speak. I gave three names and then He said, "I wonder who the Lord wants to speak" I often wonder if you sour on the things. Yet I think you people bear in mind that I take the things that I say unto myself as well as you. I give to you as a promise that those of you who are rebelling against the patriarchal order of marriage will leave it. You sisters who are rebelling against your husbands and the Lord will have the opportunity to step aside and let the opportunity of someone else take. your place. There are hundreds in this intermountain country who will live this law of marriage. If any of you brethren feel like you would like to lay down your oars, there are others who will take your place. But don't feel to lay down your oars; gladden your hearts. I promise you brethren that if you will keep your families in peace and love them you will weather through it. The responsibilities are on you to lead your families, not allow your families to place you out of the way. The thing that is pressing me, is my life, my lack of will power, my lack of knowledge, etc.; the way I am receiving my blessings that are bigger than I am. "Try me herewith and perfect me and God will pour out more blessings than you can receive. I do not feel to criticize my family. Where there is happiness there is strength. The spirit of peace is the spirit of God. If you are despising you Brothers and Sisters, sister wives, etc. you are not living the Gospel the way you should. This patriarchal order of marriage is that certain spirit s can be Brought to this life, but to me it is the power of life unto salvation. If a man is not big enough to rally forth and have a family, then he is not big enough. There is nothing that will bring out the character of a person more than the patriarchal order of marriage. Men will live it and strive in it. We have come out of the world and have the chance of our lives. Quit fighting! Everywhere I go I hear people complaining that God is doing things wrong. If you don't quit picking at the way God does things, you will go down to hell. So, if you Brothers and sisters find yourselves despondent in your feelings, overcome the things that you are erring in. I saw some of you people asleep we are truly asleep. Awake! We have only two hours every two weeks to be here and we cannot stay awake. You must awake, or you will be left behind! 179

I am thankful to the Lord that He has blessed me. I know that Celestial Marriage is a pure law. I do not care if the whole world arises against me and says it is not a law of God. :Many people in this room who have the light that they have had and turn against it will drop behind. (He related an experience cutting timber with his Brother--the saw gets pretty heavy, but it is more so if the other fellow drags his feet.) So it is with work in any capacity when you are working together. Don't drag your feet. I bear witness that the things said here are generally true. I hear people say they would like to see the face of the Savior. I say I. would like to see the Prophet first--I feel it. I bear your my testimony, in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen.

Brother John Y. Barlow: :

My Brothers and Sisters, I have been greatly edified by the words of the brethren. I have been away a great deal of the time this winter. I have been with others of the brethren -who are trying to live "the laws of God. Celestial marriage--it is the principal that gives eternal increase, that makes us gods, that has remained from the beginning until the present time. Then I say, why should we fight it? I believe as Brother Kimball says, "Some men have half a dozen devils in them. Let the members of the church and the men leading it fight this principle and they will be condemned themselves". If we turn from it, it will be to our detriment. In the paper I read that 2,700 are coming -to Salt Lake now. What will they do when they are hit on the west coast and the east coast? How many of you have read the vision of Joseph F Smith? He said thousands would come west. Our prophets have told us time and again to store up your wheat and food. So many are coming upon us that we cannot feed then. We had some meat saved up once, but they turned it over for cash. Now, what are we going to do. How many can even feed yourselves? We will have to be producers and not consumers. That is the condition that we are coming to, and it is coming with leaps and bounds. A Brother talked about being in California. About four years ago I was there and told them what was coming and to get out. Last year we told them again. They said, "We will get out when we see the bullets flying." Some of them are getting out now. We are living in very trying times; but the worst is not yet. The Prophet said the Saints would cry day and night for deliverance. There are not many of us worried about these things. It is about time some of us did worry a little. If we keep the commandments of God, we will be saved and we can stand up under it. I told you to get the Spirit of the Lord around you. How many of you did it? We are Good people, but we are not good enough. We are not keeping the commandments as we should; we are not living as we should; we are not loving our Brothers as ourselves. We talk about living the higher laws. How many of us 180

are living the United Order and other laws as they should. After the Lord revealed to me that I should live this law, it was 12 years before I entered it Finally the Lord blessed me and I did get into it. Let us try to live the laws of God as we should. If we do not, we will not get the blessing. God bless you and in the authority of the Holy Priesthood that I hold I do bless you and those that are here today I bless you that your minds may be enlightened and I feel to bless you that you may live the laws of' God. God bless you, Amen.

Closing Song: by the Choir, "The Seer". Benediction: Brother Lyman Jessop.

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