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Talk of J. M. Hammon, Salt Lake City, 22 May 1960

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Talk of J. M. Hammon, Salt Lake City, 22 May 1960

A talk by J. M. Hammon at a general meeting in Salt Lake City. The archive file is labeled J. M. Hammon. The automatic transcript of the opening does not clearly name the speaker. The text is an automatic, unreviewed transcript of the recording, lightly paragraphed for reading. The recording itself is the source.

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So let's hear some prayers from him. It's a pleasure, brothers and sisters, to meet with you again. I think these are very delightful times. I feel that I need your faith and prayers tonight, and supplication to the Lord for his spirit and guidance, that I might fulfill a responsibility upon me and to you now before him. There's so much we need.

I feel like I'd whole lot rather try to deliver the Lord's message than my own. I'm getting a little ashamed of my remarks. I used to get up and speak for 10 minutes and say more now than I can say now. I feel like that I impose upon you people sometimes, and I get wound up too much. Sitting here thinking about the good old days, risen and fallen, and risen and fallen so many times, but when are we going to stop falling?

I don't mind arising, but I still hate these tumbles. I'm sitting here thinking about myself. How the Lord has to lay me lower so often to keep me humble and in contact and keep me from getting out of hand. I don't know how I get out of hand, but I know I certainly must because He still has to lay me down after a while to humble me. The Lord said He gave us weaknesses that we might be humble. I don't know of anything I'm...

to a man whose time to ascend to the throne of God is more humbling than his weakness. I've thought of the things that we've learned since we've been in this world. I used to ponder about the statement of Paul that by days they say that I am a palmer. I've learned why the dead in me eat little white chocolate. I've been used to eat those apocryphal chocolates. And that's one thing in my childhood I needed to figure out rather than have to slip my hands in the pockets of my mind.

and make a little math or something. And they're useful too. And I've learned a few other things. And just by the grace of God, that the people are saved. As far as I look upon men, I realize that I have both efforts and that's sufficient. I trust God and that's graciousness and goodness that he extends himself to help us and to keep us and to bring us along. And so if there's any other congregation that feels proud and self-sufficient, We're badly in need of the changes out of the state. For the most part, I was thinking here of the good old days. I remember several occasions. It's better not to say the day was very soon. I haven't felt it. It's been very soon for a long time. It didn't seem to me like it's 26. And so it leads me to thoughts that, to those in my mind, are fitting to me. There's many things that we seem to attain unless we want it.

I've said repeatedly, we all seem to have a peculiar way of approaching this work. With me, it seems to be our desire. You can get the people to desire something, wanting something, willing to do something, hoping for something, then you get it accomplished. But when you start to get people, try to get people to do something in which they have no interest, there's no motivating power. Stinging up to that individual, then we have a losing battle.

I've been reminded this past week of the remarks of the ancient prophets we've seen these last days, and the statement of Prophet Joseph and Elisha. And I often think of that statement that's recorded in the back of the Doctrine and Covenants here on the road. It's a reminder of this, that he would have to cut his works out in righteousness, and the very left would be deceived. Now where's the deception? What is there that's going to come into the lives of this people and bring about a deception that will cause us to lose?

Our desires and our hopes and our aspirations in the kingdom of God. There is a challenge to this. Where are we losing? And what are we doing to keep ourselves from coming closer to the servants of God and in consequence, touching them closer to the Lord and bringing about and bringing to pass this strange thing that we're speaking of? Where's the deception? Where in are we fooled?

I live in one environment for a couple of weeks, and then I come and get in another, and I don't see why the people are one different. I see people in poor, humble circumstances that are frightening to some because of their humility, and so forth, and yet the same cult seems to be denied. Is our feelings and our affections fastened upon the things of this world? Is there something here that we don't quite want to let go of?

for fear that we may never recover it. Somewhat like the experience that I imagine people feel when they pass from this life into death. There's a little frightening atmosphere that seems to come over some as they're leaving the known for the unknown, going from the light into the dark. If there's something about the people, something about us that we don't want to quite let go and surrender ourselves to God, we might...

Use us and strengthen us and fortify us and change us around to where we can be useful in this kingdom. We've had a long afternoon going over some priesthood matters. Incidentally, it leads to reviewing the character of the people once in a while. We've got a people here that we can't get rid of, but we can't do a hell of a lot with them. I understand what I mean. I pick people on the skin and try to guide them away like Brother George E. Mac, you know, with their teeth.

I came to South Coast one day, years ago, and I did my level best to get that man to get out of town. I didn't exactly insult him, but I told him a lot of hard stories about that man. And he just stood there and looked at me. And he's still here. And he's determined, from all the evidence that I can see, to stay with the kingdom of God. With all his nice-mindedness. And do the best he can. To a multitude of people, it's time to do the same thing. Here we are.

Trying to do the best we can, but it doesn't just seem to be good enough. Being about a reformation and a character is just too... And I'm convinced. I'm convinced that we could change if we wanted to. Looking into my own life, my own character, I believe that I could change more rapidly if it wasn't for the things that are around me that I seem to be proud of. I don't think it's a compliment. I think...

I'm taking the days of the setting in order of the work of God and how the people talk about it and pray about it and discuss it with the people that are gone. They long and hope and look for a vindication in the setting in order of the church of God and the house of God and hope that it will distributedly come to pass. And I've heard better than nothing. Tell the people to pray for the coming of the one mighty and strong to set in order the house of God. And I'm sitting right down the road with nothing to...

Trust me or force me, I wonder what the idea is he did come and say. How long we could stay in order? There's many trifling, puzzling matters that are missing. It's a serious thing. How long could we stay in order? I'm thinking today about the church. The church is a theory market. And I don't believe in making sure the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will ever change. The absolution of the organization, its helps and auxiliaries and so forth have been given to the...

to the brethren by revelation. Every one of them. The Sunday school came by revelation and necessity. The Relief Society was organized by the prophet Joseph Smith by revelation. And so those things are pretty well fixed and definite in their nature. And being so, what would we do with the church if we had it? Let's just be throwing bread in the tray and set one of the dead in here. Better drop some dry, anybody you want to.

in presence of that church. What would we do? We'd be elders, to be fed up, and to decide over a stake, so that we could get a stake down in Cedar Creek. How many of you guys would be down in Cedar Creek? And keep it in order. Take your families with you. And keep them in order. And sift the hoops and the trash, and not get ambitious and start to rush in men into plural marriage. And just start teaching them faith, repentance, and baptism.

and laying out his hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost. And stay with it. These people, even yet, even yet, launch out and launch out and launch out into discourses and defecations and revelations on the law of celestial marriage and priesthood, and the matter should never be believed by these people. I've felt impressed of it for years, and it's never been my turn to go around and talk a good deal about the law of paranormal.

A lot of the hardship that people have suffered has been the consequence of your ignorance, flaunting and revealing these things to the people. I've said before, and I want you to remember, that if we want to get an order, to set an order, we've got to get ourselves in such a condition that we're ordered before we can be organized. Of course, we've had a guy often say that we've been steeped these many generations.

and treating lightly the things of God. Now this people has never, to a great majority, has never been inside of the temple. You don't know the consequences of your acts. You don't know what they're up against. To any marked degree. You think because the brethren have been liberal in their views and teaching you here, it isn't improper to say anything. And yet the law of Pharaoh Merge, I'm sure, should never be discussed outside of the temple of God.

You see what I mean? You go there and learn these things, and consequently, when you come out, your lips are sealed till you return. And they're only discussable then if the people could have had the same information as you have. And the rest of the people are called up by revelation, by the people. We want you and your family in the country on such and such a day. And these revelations are good. Now I think, I think my dear people, that before we move along, that these things have got to have a greater design. What will bring about it, I don't know. Whenever you find the people suffering, you find them in more humble and a teachable mood. It's a good question.

The people then, well, you could organize an event, believe me, I'd listen. But now that everybody has a job, and if you don't have a job, the rage is on you, so that they're not so desirable in the institutions of the world, while the state just starts sending you a text, and you go on as independent as can be. But I think it's beautiful. I think that we should take care of our aged people, that they just stay as independent as they have now, if you can't touch them or anything.

Where do they all have their own time? I can't tell him anything. I think he's laughing at Brother Brennan as he's riding along in the middle. I don't know if that's part of his thought, but I thought of this generation of young men. If they're down, just go. If you'll take a girl out, make her go back. Make her pay her own share, take her to see the doctor. And you boys can go out and earn $25 a week just doing nothing. Just doing nothing. If you get a full-time job, you can bring down $300 a month.

And yet, this generation of kids is giving up to the military. Ask a woman to tell you one of these. Maybe some of them said, but I never looked at it that way. Not enough humility in the people. Not in such a condition that God can tell us anything. The longer this inflation goes on, the way this government goes, we have money for everything. It seems like, as one man says, there isn't anything that money won't solve. That's the way we're solving most of our problems with our money. It is to me.

A woman really isn't very dependent upon a man at any rate. And even he can't. This position on the part of a woman is dependent upon a husband. And he isn't very dependent upon God anymore. Godless nation. They have no respect for him or anything. They'll pay a man for doing his work. And the only faith that he has in God is what he can force upon himself. Like this, this is his time to do. That's your brother's time to do. I said to the world, you know.

teaching yourself and trying to persuade yourself to have faith in God and to pray for God to lead you to Christ and to find salvation. But there's no necessity for it. The world is holding out its arms, yearning for your apostasy, hoping that you'll give up. And so there's no way to stop it. They're doing this people into a condition where they can be organized into a church that you describe as a renovation. Now I...

I don't minimize, Kevin, but you're obedient. I don't minimize. I appreciate that we've got a group of men here that we could just send almost on a minute's notice to any place in the world. Most of you would just pack up and go. You're getting that far along. But would you go with the power of God upon you? Would you go like the brethren used to go, and the travelers would go to sleep? David Johnson sent me out on a trip, and I got a good car.

And you'd inquire of my needs, and you'd see that I had money, and if you asked me to go to my friends, I'd stay in a 40-decent hotel. I wouldn't have to bother anybody. I wouldn't have to ask the Lord to bless me for anything. I'd just go. I'm thinking, I've been fortunate in reading a little bit lately when I was dressing up, and I've been reading about party people. Well, it's just a reputation of oblivion and evil and all the better than one thing.

They traveled across these United States and slept out on the ground, waded rivers, went into unfriendly houses, and were fed, and clothed, and taken care of without ever a dollar in their pocket. And there, it seems to me, was their cue. Their adversity was their greatest blessing. There wasn't anything the brother cop could depend upon but God. If it had been the majority of this group of men here, the way we're settled, we'd all have been dead.

Just following it for two years. Waiting in those streams and getting wet, soaked through with the rains and the snows and having to stay out all night and freezing and cold. I would have had pneumonia and died. Two men traveling along and they'd take down his clothes and shoes and they'd lay hands on each other and get up and walk off the wall. Now how? By the gift and power and the grace of God. And we're not, we're not brought into close enough circumstances.

It looks to me like if we're going to go through this thing, we've got to increase our desire, or God has got to increase our adversity. Joseph used to say the veil of sin is because the people's desires have come out of their depression and hardship and poverty, and they long to be released from the kingdom of God and desire the blessings of the devil. It seems to me that they're not coming up. I'm yearning. I'm hungry.

thirsty for the things of the king. We're taking her to death in people's care. We believe that. We're trying to bring ourselves into obedience and so forth. And I know that you trust us for a little information. I know they trust me. They want to get me to talk. I'm slow to respond. But if they go hard enough and a little more specific in their questions, we might get some answers. We're not trusting in our spirit, our mind.

We put on time to speak. We're not putting our mind to the situation. Hard as we ought to. I'm sure that the Lord's going to have to humble his people like he's going to have to humble the church before we'll desire these things as we ought to. You women, before some of you will render obedience to your husband as you ought to, you're going to have to be made low if you don't change your ways. You know that what we've taught you is that God is true about the principle of obedience.

Subordination to proper authority, you know it as well as you know anything. And you know that you can't be saved and exalted in the kingdom of God on any other sense of it. So, if you don't begin to use, you're going to have to suffer the hardship that goes along with it. Because if that's missed, that hardship is passing over the saints and the judgment of God. And we're not going to escape, my dear friends, unless we begin to use.

Bring ourselves into better conditions before the Lord. I felt like shouting for joy. My brother Joseph began to tell us a few of the gospel stories that goes along with the character of the people. And he told about President Snow being pressed continually to give a certain amount instead of a new-found job. And then during the intermediate work, that he's a good man, President Snow. He said, yes, what the hell is he good for? Now, we've got to be careful.

extremely careful, we're going to fall into that very category. We're going to be a good people, but what are we going to be good for? Unless we can be motivated, stimulated, to hunger and faith after the power of God. The faith necessary, we're only saved by our faith, and the faith is a gift from God, and we've got to desire it. We've got to worship it. I've listened to David Johnson tell each change of his life. In fact, every lesson, What he's had on faith has come out of his adversity. Out of his adversity. He travels up and down the road. The flat tires he's had. The quitting of broken down automobiles. And him getting along on his way has been based upon his faith to overcome his adversity. And he's learned his lessons well. So now they're habitual with him. He seems to trust in God wherever he goes. But I know, brethren, that we've got to obtain more faith. To obtain what he's desired and worked for.

and begin to look to these things. Now, I know that there's many in this congregation that are doing these things, and I know there's some who are not, because the strength of this people is not sufficient yet to obtain the blessings from the other side that we must have. And yet, in Sunday school this morning, the experience that President John Taylor had back in September 1886 over that revelation on plural marriage has been the life and salvation of this.

people, the revelation that God gave him. Now how did he obtain it? He received it. He was in hiding. All the leading men throughout Mormondom was touching him with letters and everything else and messengers, telling him he had to do something. He had to do something. They were going to take their property, not only the property in Salt Lake City, but all the leading men in Arizona and all around the country were going to have their property confiscated. In consequence of their offices, they held them as kids.

This is how the sixth cousin began. And they were anxious. The cousin told her to appease the government and ask for the man of God. He knew. For he was a leader so long, he knew whose servant he was. He knew that he had no right to abrogate the laws of God and appease the people. And so in his adversity, he went to the Lord. He obtained his answer. Because of the hungering and thirsting that he had after the righteousness of the kingdom of God.

And we obtained information that kept this people going now for about 80 years. 75 years we've lived on the revelation that President Taylor got. And the brethren that followed in the wake of that momentous occasion. And we finally got a people. As we mark my hearing, it's our time to go. Brother Bono and Brother Musker, they had a people like this. They thought they was living in the millennium. They thought they really had it. And they've made it as long as we've made it. And made it as well as we made it.

And they'll still be at the same place that we are. Brother Barlow would stand right here, right now, if he was in my place, and I'd bet dollars to donuts that he'd say, well, this is a good people, but they're not good enough. Now, how are we going to get to good enough? Unless you're hungry and thirst after the things of the kingdom of God. And that not only is huge, but all of you. You can get the young men to hunger and thirst. You can get the young women to hunger. Up to a certain place.

But after that, I don't hunger and thirst anymore. I think that we've got to move as a people. I appreciate the faith and prayer of this people on behalf of the council. It's been a great change from all this in the past year. A tremendous change. I know we're going to a home now. I'd like to hear the people pray for Brother Johnson. He's the head of the priesthood, and that's the way it ought to be. And as their prayers are, so shall their minds be.

They say to the Lord to bless the other giants and they'll be inclined to blessing themselves. It's a strength in the hand of this work. But that isn't enough. We've got a hunger and thirst after these things with all our might, mind, and strength. It's a command of God. And it's not going to be sufficient for this people to go on as fundamentalist Mormons. Fundamentalist Mormons. If you get the case up to a certain point. To here.

They can't get enough to hear. They don't want to go up to them. I don't know why they want to be excused. I don't want the Lord to take me to the U.S. and even not to talk to the people and to get into pinpointing the weaknesses and making me the whole feeling bad. We can talk about the conditions of the past and maybe they'll touch the present. I know. I saw my days with my own eyes. Things that went before my childhood. Very young child at eyes.

The raging of the women. My mother was secretary in the Relief Society, and I was an only child, and I sat with them through life all the time. I remember the disposition of parts of the women to condemn and to criticize the wearing of the garment to the holy priesthood. That's history. And it didn't rise in my mind how the government flooded the women to keep their death and their demeanor from keeping with their covenant. I remember that from a great time.

I've heard for 20 years now, to get them to plead with the city, to wear their clothes, and keep them with the covenant that they are going to have to make. And you can get them to do it for two weeks, three weeks, or two months. And after that, why, it starts to taper off again. I've got to come and lay some beautiful material on my lap.

The dress she was going to make, and she says, you're going to have three-quarter length sleeves. I said, why not seven-eighths? And she didn't know what I was talking about. Drop it. Not three-quarter sleeves, just three-quarter sleeves, and that was it. If you're a woman, you ought to have your sleeves down. Not three-quarters, and not even seven-eighths. They ought to be eight-eighths. And they ought to stay there through time and all eternity.

At least see your sojourn upon this earth, because after nature you're covered. And they won't change. Wanting out till you have to go buy a blast and having time to make one. Well, you got my sympathy. But I can't change the law. Brother Johnson can't change the law. It's tasted in all their might before those people as they all combined. They can't change the law. That's it. How hard do you hunger and thirst?

It seems to me, if you let me cry a little, that you know damn well that the one mighty and strong isn't going to come for a while, or you wouldn't buy a three-quarter of it. The service of the house is sold away. We continually go to these stores, and because they don't furnish full-length sleeves, we buy what they've got. This is not a particular biting that you win, and I'm just talking about a condition. A condition that seems to put ourselves up to the mark, and we won't fail it.

and just keep a backing away from it. I've gone home after one of these sermons that I've given, and I've seen my folks put on long-sleeved glasses under their house dresses and everything else. And how long did it last? It didn't last a week. A little thing like that. Now, I'm not asking anybody to change their character. The condition of your mind is just to ask for a little change in their character. And I can't follow it through to show you a face in hell.

Now, where are our desires? Where is our hope? Where is our love? Where is our aspiration? We can't anymore take you people and do with you like we'd want to. Without changing these things, you cannot be done. Johnson can't go to the Lord and say, well, now here, I've got a people that I can do this and so on. He can't do it. I don't have one family. This whole society where you can take them one right after the other.

and lining up until we're able to do it. Now that's one thing. That's one thing. I think the bad ones are coming along. I think they're coming along. We see evidence of obedience and response. The financial response that this people has made has been a tremendous impact, in my estimation, to your faith. It's strengthened you and supported the work and put you way down the road to where you used to be because you've proven where your affections are.

And you're backing it up. I haven't heard one man murmur. Not one. There's a hardship that he's had overcoming his debt. He's been paid on behalf of his priesthood. I haven't heard it. I guess I'm coming in and I'm going to talk to myself. Make a statement and I'll make it. You're dead in this world sacred. The law of celestial marriage is an essential part of your priesthood. But your wives are not going to save you. The priesthood is going to save you.

It isn't going to be your wives that invite you up in the kingdom of God. It's going to be the priesthood. Brother Johnson didn't worry. He had a son. He was going to get him along the road, but he opted. He was wondering. I heard him talk. I heard Guy talk, and I heard the others talk. The wonderment of the concept of priesthood is how we stand as a priesthood on the other side. Brother Bono and Brother Muffin and Brother Giddy are our immediate predecessors. They're the men that we're acquainted with and established in the work of the Lord.

Our anxieties is how they feel toward us. And whether they're satisfied with the work that we're doing. And the things that we're accomplishing. And we're confident that they're the ones that are going to call us up. We just have to find ourselves acceptable in their eyes. And consequently, I suppose, anxious about those that preside over them. I'm anxious about Lawrence students. And I'm anxious about Brother Taylor students. To see whether Brother Taylor is going to own and bless and sustain this.

This confession is the Lord letting create for the salvation of the people. To show that they're anxious. Now brethren, labor and teach and bring your families because they're a central part of your priesthood. But it's not the part of your priesthood that's going to exalt you. The priesthood is God. After the order of Mark Tavis, which is after the order of the Son of God. If you bring a man up and exalt him, these are the things that we should look forward to. And try to bring ourselves into it.

subject them to and place our desires to. And in placing our desires, why, we may have to go out and work for the Gentiles. We may have to go do that control. But let's let our hopes and desires and ambitions be upon the affairs of the kingdom. Look back on my growing up days in this work and long system counsel as to how I ought to do it. And now I believe that I could give you a little. I could give myself a little. Be wonderful.

We wonder what we ought to do. Well, I can tell you what you ought to do. In the days of your accountability in this world, your hopes and aspirations should be the establishment of the kingdom of God. Your hearts and feelings and affections should be separated from the things of this world. You say better hand than your offer general. Well, I can make it quite specific. I don't think a man's heart and feelings should be set upon a high, nor a home. You want to change it to be specific.

Shouldn't be centered upon his home. His home should be the incident to tearing out of his ambitions and establishing the work of God and house his family and so forth. And so after you waste excessive money on homes and houses unless the Lord directs it, it's a mistake. I feel both about my feelings. I have some skeletons probably in my closet, but houses haven't been one of them. And I don't think that we ought to be leveling anything.

I think if we go and work for these people and do a good, honest day's work, and the nature of our being and so forth, they'll meet with their wants and needs. We'll let them go and get another one. I don't feel like it. We've got to be so diligent and so affectionate in our work that we're going to get attention from them. I dare you.

It comes to my mind, and I'm going to say that too, and I'll tell you in the name of the Lord, that a man in this group that works for attention will come to them. He'll lose his faith. He'll make their feelings, and their hearts, and their ambitions, that's what they shouldn't be. One something went through me as it's often done to me, and Brother Johnson told me the other day, and that is, I don't know whether he's there or not, but he told me that we shouldn't try to establish ourselves, our old age, and our lives in the laps of the Gentiles.

in their system. We should establish our retirement in our old age in the kingdom of God. I may go through months, 15 or 20 years ago to this teaching, which tells me more today than I think about it. I don't want my life, after I've labored in the kingdom of God, I don't want it to be dependent upon suckers and the Gentiles in my old age. If God won't take care of me, I'll have my children back or somebody else if I get some confidence.

I'd a whole lot rather do that than to be dependent upon them and their institutions. I want my life and my labor to be directed toward my heavenly Father. I would rather not be gifted by these people. Until I gave Christ, and the Lord told Enoch. I was discussing on that scene where Enoch saw God weep and so forth. The Lord turned to Enoch and told him that these people were the creation of his own hand. And that he gave them their knowledge.

and have instructed them that they should choose him as their father. I've spent my disposition as husband all my life. I've sought to choose God as my father, and I have had frustrations and feelings of betrayal go over me, and I relied on insurance back in Idaho long before I had anything to do with it. Men come and scare the hell out of me and make me think that I'm going to die tomorrow and leave.

My wife was too little kids to buy one, and I'd buy some insurance on it. And then I'd feel that I betrayed God. And I felt worse then than now, because the insurance man made me feel it. And the next thing you can do, I wouldn't pay it. So they cheated me out of some money. I said, let them go their way, brother. Let them go their way. So that God testifies to me that this is our house. This is the place where we can place our lives.

Where we could do our work and where our hopes, our aspirations, and our fondest desires could be with the God that we could have the pleasant hope of looking forward to an increase in our devotion and our supplications toward God by the establishment of his kingdom. I have every confidence that there's talent and ability in us and God's people and he'll raise up additional people.

To manage this thing. This thing really designed. Showing this thing here to you tonight. Just about to be done. Just about to be done. The wardrobe. I'll be right here. This is in. But it's tomorrow. Tonight we notify you. That you'd rather be in the temple in the morning. And that you'd rather go through. And receive your endowment from your covenant. Instead of having to go over half your credit. And maybe not every one of you. But as a whole.

I'll tell a few women how half of it had to be discovered or remodeled before you could wear it the next day. Now how does that indicate? If you haven't caught them in the garden, they get up and beat hellfire and damnation and thunder to you. If you ought to do this and so on, and you're scared just for one day, and you go out and do something the next day, the fever dies, and you say, well, I'll do it when the time comes. And the time will never come.

I am not counting the lives of these people unless they be judged. I manifest my distigations, and my hopes, and my aspirations, and my inward and outward conducts by their eyes. I have cared for the work of God, but I am not concerned about my work as a pastor. Let me see what it says. This is President George F. Smith, 59. The Imprisoned World, page 813. I took your life, and I've got long enough lines of action to see you again.

It's just been erased. The Lord has given unto us garments of the holy priesthood, and we know what that means, and yet there are those of us who mutilate them, another that we may follow the foolish, vain, and permit me to say, indecent practices of the world. In order that such people may imitate the fashions, they will not hesitate to mutilate that which should be held by them, and were sacred of all things in the world, next to their own virtue, next to their own purity of life. They should hold these things that God has given unto them sacred, unchanged and unaltered, from the very pattern in which God gave them. Let us have the moral courage.

to stand against the opinions of fascism and espouses of fascism to tell us to break the covenant and commit a dubious sin. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Good for you. That was long ago. This is 1960, as far as this is. I started about 1918. That's when the public started, 1950. That's 45 years ago.

Well, he lost the fight, Devin. What if that Smith lost the fight? The people turned away and did as they pleased. Are we going to lose it? Are we going to get a change about in our lives and the physical things and the things that we can do to strengthen us and support us in the things that we have difficulty doing? I don't think that a woman is going to be entirely submissive to her husband. I haven't observed it that way.

And who does these things is contrary to the covenant. The woman that's living in the relationship of Celeste and Mary should assume that she's been through the temptation. The woman that's been sealed to a man through time and all eternity should assume that she's been through the temptation and can let this out of her heart. And the dress and her apparel should be in keeping with the covenant that she would have made, or will make, as quickly as the opportunity is afforded to her. That's the way she should be.

And men should do the same thing. You young men, I've told you before, and it's written out here that they're doing it. Don't wear this underwear. Start some church practices. Not in keeping, but to taste it. If you reach the age where you're eligible for a mission and the Lord's laid a hand on you, do away with it. And find something to wear that's more acceptable, that covers your body. If you young women are approaching the age where you're going to.

Under the law of marriage, it's not to tear your mind to death according to your covenant. These things that they throw around for underwear, they set for you to do, but you just practically make it. It's not conducive to good moral strength. The garments of the holy priesthood are a strength to you. And if a woman will keep them proper and unmutilated upon her body, she'll be strong. The same thing is true with a man.

They are a source of strength to you, and a comfort, and a protection to your body, both morally and physically. And I presume that that's why there's so much weakness among us. The Lord is the devil, as he pried us of this blessing, and we stand in hardship all the time before the Lord because we've been cut off from the audience of the house of God because of disobedience. And was that so by the hand of his soul? And even those that have the temple, have been cut out from the ordinances of the heart of God. The third and fourth generations and forever for some of them. We've got to change these things in order to get back into the grace of God. This condemnation that's been pronounced upon the Lord back in 1832 has continued. And one thing after another until finally the people have been stripped.

of everything but the associations of people and the teachings of the devil. That's all we've got left. And if you wouldn't, the people that they have laid low in their graves tomorrow, the great majority would have to have their work done by carers, because we haven't qualified ourselves in the eyes of God to have these things set in order. It's a state that we're in. And yet we seem to go along as happily and as carefully as they would have a right mind. And I tell you, we need to do it.

concerned about our condition. I pray the spirit of God to be upon this people, be upon us all, be upon the council, be upon the councilors, the people that have paid in their tolls, that the Lord will sustain and uphold the decision of the councilors who should go in there in accordance with his mind and will. Thank you, God, yet more.

Sometimes our lackadaisical attitude, the fact that we don't care, neither here nor there, we eat just the same and wear just the same and have meetings just the same, other things are far too against us, blowing us into a final security and state of sleepiness that we're not alert and awake. And if we had pressure on us, if we had pressure on us, and you're sending your children and your messengers and your...

Well, if one of the councils of peace would be doing something for you, then we'd find a different disposition on the part of this people. So I think if you want to pray, we have a right to pray. The ability to get around and take care of ourselves. I ask the Lord to sustain the decisions of the people so we can continue to pray against our enemies. Let's pray.

Again, let's try to live according to our prayers and justify God in answering them. If we will do this, we will see good days. And I pray to the Spirit of God again to be upon this people, that we will not have to participate and be subject to the judgment of God that's going to go through these inter-mountain countries. Joseph F. Smith said that he saw a tape on the door of every Latter-day Saint home. Now what? The judgment of death and death.

dead from house to house because of the rebellion and disobedience of the people. They were all brought into Christ. Now these things don't have to be our life to hear the commandments of God and live above them. But the Johnson has repeatedly told his people that they'll be protected and that the judgments of God would pass over us if we'd live so that God could bless us and honor us and claim us as his own. That's our hope for today. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

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  1. From the Historical Short Creek archive, 1960 documents. Duration 54:53. Automatic transcript (unreviewed). Speaker identification is from the archive file name, checked against the opening of the recording where it names or introduces the speaker.

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