Talk of J. M. Hammon, Salt Lake City, 28 May 1960
28 May 1960
Talk of J. M. Hammon, Salt Lake City, 28 May 1960
A talk by J. M. Hammon at a general meeting in Salt Lake City. The archive file is labeled J. M. Hammon. The text is an automatic, unreviewed transcript of the recording, lightly paragraphed for reading. The recording itself is the source.
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Let's hear some prayers from Hamlet. I feel like I'd hold out there to try to deliver the Lord's message in my own. I'm getting a little ashamed of my remarks. I could get up and speak for 10 minutes and say more now than I can say in an hour. I feel like that I impose upon you people sometimes when I get wound up too tight. Sitting here thinking about the good old days and how he's come along and will him.
fallen and risen and fallen so many times that I begin to wonder when we're going to stop falling. I don't mind arising, but I still hate these tumbles. I'm sitting here thinking about myself. How the Lord has to lay me low so often to keep me humble and contract, to keep me from getting out of hand. I don't know how I get out of hand, but I know I certainly must because He still has to lay me down after a while. Humble.
God said he gave us weaknesses that we might be humble. And I don't know of anything in the character of man that's trying to ascend to the throne of God that's more humbling than his weaknesses. I've thought of the things that we've learned since we've been in this world. I used to ponder about the statement of Paul that by grace we're saved, but I know now that Paul meant it. I've learned why the brethren need these little white chocolates, but they must be used these days to process chocolate.
And that's one thing in my childhood I never could figure out. I was young and had to slip their hands in their pockets once in a while. Trying to make their way to their math or something. But I learned that they're useful too. And I've learned a few other things. I've learned that by the grace of God, the people are saved. But as I look upon men, I realize that I have both efforts. And that's the fifth. Graciousness and goodness are two extensions of that. To help us and to train us and to heal us.
Bring us along. And so if there's any of this congregation that feels proud and puffed up and self-sufficient, we're badly in need of a change of frame of mind. Because we're in a hell of a state. For the most part. I say I was thinking here of the good old days. I remember on several occasions it better not have said the day was very thin. But I haven't felt it's been very thin for a long time. It didn't seem to me like it's 26.
And so it leads me to the fact that it's evoked in my mind what I was fitting for. There isn't anything that we seem to obtain unless we've got it. Our desires, as I've said repeatedly, they all seem to have a peculiar way of approaching this work. And to me, it seems to be our desire. You can get the people to desire something and wanting something and willing to do something, hoping for something, then you get it to come.
but when you start forgetting people try to get people to do something in which they have no there's no motivating power singing up to that individual then we have a losing battle i've been reminded this past week of the remarks of the ancient prophets we've seen these last days and the statement of prophet joseph and i often think of that statement that's recorded in the back of the document He reminded us that he would have to cut his legs out and rise with me. That is very elective of him. Now where is the deception? What is going to come into the lives of this people and bring about a deception that will cause us to lose our desires and our hopes and our aspirations in the kingdom of God? There is a challenge to this people. Where are we losing? And what are we doing to keep ourselves from coming closer to the servants of God and in consequence,
testing them closer to the Lord and bringing to that and bringing to pass this strange thing that we're speaking of. Where's the deception? Where in are we fooled? I live in one environment for a couple of weeks and then I come and get in another and I don't see where the people are one different. I see people in poor and humble circumstances that are frightening to some because of their humility of them and so forth and yet the same.
Pulse seems to be the matter. Is our feelings and our affections fastened upon the things of this world? Is there something here that we don't quite want to let go of? The fear that we may never recover it? Somewhat like the experience that I imagine people feel when they pass from this life into death. There's a little frightening atmosphere that seems to come over some that they're leaving the known for the unknown.
going from the light into the dark. If there's something about the people or something about us that we don't want to quite let go, surrender ourselves to God, we might use it and strengthen it and fortify it and change it around before we can be used in any kingdom. We've had a long afternoon going over some sacred matters. Incidentally, it leads to reviewing the character of the people once in a while.
We've got a people here that we can't get rid of, but we can't do a hell of a lot with them. Do you understand what I mean? Put people on the sims and try to drive them away like they're a drug, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Turned yourself to one day years ago, and I did my level best to get that man to get out of town. Didn't exactly insult him, but I told him a lot of hard stories, I tell you. And he just stood there and looked at me. And he's still here. He's determined.
From all the evidence that I can see, to stay with the kingdom of God, with all his might, mind, and power. To do the best we can. To be a mother to the people that's trying to do the same thing. Here we are. Trying to do the best we can, but it doesn't just seem to be good enough. To bring about a reformation in the character of this people. And I'm convinced. I'm convinced that we could change if we wanted to. Looking into my own life, my own character.
I believe that I could change more rapidly if it wasn't as far as it came to be. So they allow me that I seem to be God. And I don't think it's a compliment. I think in today's setting and order of the work of God and how the people talk about it and pray about it and discuss the people that are gone. They long and hope and look for a vindication in the setting and order of the church of God and the house of God.
and hoped that it would be stupidly come to pass, and I've heard better nothing. Tell the people to pray for the coming of the one mighty and strong, to set an order for half as God. When I sit and ride down the road with nothing to press me or force me, I wonder what we'd do if we did come and say it. How long we could stay an order? There's many trifling, twiddling matters that are missing. It's a serious thing. How long, how long could we stay an order?
I'm thinking today about the church. The church is a fear of democracy. And I don't believe in making the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will ever change. The absolution of the organization, the helps and auxiliaries and so forth have been given to the brethren by revelation. Every one of them. The Sunday spirit came by revelation on necessity. The elite society was organized by the prophet Joseph Smith by revelation.
And so those things are pretty well fixed and definite in their nature. And doing so, what would we do at the church if we had it? Let's just be thrown dead in the clay and set one of the dead in here. Bill Johnson's guy or anybody you want to. In presence of that church. What would we do? How many of you elders could be set out to preside over a stake? If we could get a stake down in Cedar City, how many of you dead could be down there and preside over it?
And keep it in order. Take your families with you. And keep them in order. And sift the hoops and the chaff. And not get ambitious and start directing men into plural marriage. And just start teaching them faith through tempting some bad people. And laying out of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost. And stay with it. And if people, even yet, even yet, launch out and launch out and launch out.
into the discourses and desecrations and the revelations on the law of celestial marriage and priesthood and the matter should never be believed by this people. I've felt impressed of it for years and it's never been my courage to go around and talk a good deal about the law of paranormal. A lot of the hardships people have suffered has been the consequence of their ignorance, flaunting and revealing these things to the people. I've said before and I want you to remember, But if we want to get an order, to set an order, we've got to get ourselves in such a condition that we're ordered before we can be organized. Of course, we've had, as Guy often says, we've been through these many generations, including, likely, this age of God. Now, this people has never, to a great majority, has never been inside of the temple. You don't know the consequences of your act. You don't know how to wrap again, to any marked degree.
You think because the dead have been liberal in their hearing and teaching their hearing? It isn't improper to say anything. And yet the law of prayer of marriage, I'm sure, should never be discussed outside of the temple of God. It's sure that it can be. The doctrine's on the Godhead. The revelation's on the priesthood. What has been given to this people should never be given outside of the temple of God. If you don't know it, the things that are discussed in the temple are never discussed out of it.
You see what I mean? You go there and learn these things, and consequently, when you come out, your lips will feel to you in time. And they're only discussable then with the people that have had the same information as you have. And the rest of the people are called up by revelation, by the priesthood. They're like you and your family in the temple on such and such a day. And these revelations are good. Now, I think, my dear people, that before we move along, So these things, you've got to have a greater desire. What a thing about it, I don't know. Whenever you find the people suffering, you find them in more humble and a teachable mood. People run, you can organize them and then they leave. But now that everybody has a job, and if you don't have a job, the rage is on you so that they're not so desirable in the institutions of the world, while the state just got...
I think it's beautiful. I think that we should take care of our aged people, that they just stay as independent as a hog on ice. We can't touch them or anything. We're ready to all have our own time. We can't tell them anything. I think that laughing is better than a movie. I don't know if that's part of your job, but I thought of this generation of young men. We've got to get down this road.
You'll take a girl off and make her go back. Make her pay her rent and share a ticket. This way or another. I just can't see through this idea. You boys can go out and earn $25 a week just doing nothing. Just pin money. If you get a full-time job, you can bring down $300 a month. And yet, this generation of kids is doing that for the money. That's the way you pay your rent. It stops me. Maybe some of them did, but I never looked at it that way. It's not enough.
There's not enough humility in the people. They're not in such a condition that God can tell us anything. And the longer this inflation goes on and the way this government goes, we have money for everything. And it seems like, like one man says, there isn't anything but money on the side. That's the way we're solving most of our problems with our money. It is to me. A woman really isn't very dependent upon a man. She can walk out any day, any day, and make more money than he can.
So there's no real disposition on the part of a woman to be dependent upon her husband. A man isn't very dependent upon God anymore. It's a godless nation. They have no respect for him or anything. They'll pay a man for doing his work and the only faith that he has in God is what he can force upon himself. Like this, this is his time to do. Like you better have time to do. You're sick of the world and you're teaching yourself and trying to persuade yourself.
to have faith in God and to cherish the gospel of Jesus Christ and the sign of salvation. But there's no necessity for it. The world is holding out its arms, yearning for your apostasy, and hoping that you'll give up. And so there's very little to it. It's urging the people into a condition where they can be organized into the church that Jesus Christ has elevated. Now, I don't minimize that, but you're obedient.
I don't know. I appreciate that we've got a group of men here that we could just send almost on a minute's notice to any place in the world. Most of you will just pack up and go. You're getting that far along. But with the goal, it's a tie of God at times. If you go like a veteran needs to go, the travel is a job of Smith. David Johnson sent me out on a trip, and I got a good tie.
And he'd inquire my needs, and he'd see that I had money, and if he asked me to go to Los Angeles, I'd stay in a fairly decent hotel. I wouldn't have to bother anybody. I wouldn't have to ask the Lord to bless me for anything. I'd just go. I've been thinking, I've been forced into reading a little bit lately when I was dressing up, and I've been reading about 22 Taps. Well, it's just a repetition of that big'un and hoover and all the big'un wants it.
They traveled across these United States and slept out on the ground, waded rivers, went into unfriendly houses and were fed and clothed and taken care without ever a dollar in their pocket. And therein, it seems to me, was their cure, was their great, their adversity was their greatest blessing. There wasn't anything the better type could depend upon but God. If it had been the majority of this group of men here, the way they felt it, we'd all have been dead.
Just falling for two years. Waiting in those streams and getting wet. Choked through with the rains and the snows and having to stay out all night. And freezing and cold. I would have had pneumonia and died. Two men traveling along and they'd take down his chills and fevers and they'd lay hands on each other and get up and walk off well. Now how? By the gift and power and the grace of God. And we're not, we're not batting to close enough circumstances.
It looks to me like if we're going to go through this thing, we've got to increase our desire, and God has got to increase our adversity. Joseph used to say the veil was thin, and it's because of people's desire this time. They've come out of their depression and hardship and poverty, and they long to be released from the kingdom of God and desire the blessings of the brother. It seems to me that we're not coming up and hoping and yearning.
I'm hungry and thirsty for the things of the king. They're taking her to bed and keep us here. We believe that. We're trying to bring ourselves into obedience and so forth. And I know that you press us for a little information. I know they press me and want to get me to talk. I'm slow to respond. But if they go hard enough, and they're a little more specific in their questions, we might get some answers. We're not pressing and I sit there.
Our minds are put on time to speak. We're not putting our minds to the situation as hard as we ought to. And I'm sure that the Lord's going to have to humble his people like he's going to have to humble the church before we'll desire these things as we ought to. Before some of you will render obedience to your husband as you ought to, you're going to have to be laid low if you don't change your ways.
You know that what we taught you is that God is true about the principle of obedience and subordination to proper authority. You know it as well as you know anything. And you know that you can't be saved and exalted in the kingdom of God on any other sense of it. So, if you don't begin to use, you're going to have to suffer the hardship that goes along with it. There's a first myth about hardships passing over the saints and the judgment of God.
And we're not going to escape, my dear friends, unless we begin to bring ourselves into better conditions before the Lord. I felt like standing for joy. And Brother Joseph began to pass a few of the gospel stories that goes along with the character of the people. And he told about Sergeant Snow being pressed continually to give a certain man some sort of mutual job. And then during the...
Intermediate work, so there is a good man present. I said, yes, what the hell is he good for? Now, we've got to be careful, extremely careful. We're going to fall into that very category. We're going to be a good people, but what are we going to be good for? Unless we can be motivated, stimulated, to hunger and thirst after the power of God. The faith necessary, we're only saved by our faith, and the faith is a gift from God, and we've got to desire it.
He's got to work on it. I've listened to Brother Johnson tell experiences of his life. In fact, every lesson that he's had on faith has come out of his adversity. Out of his adversity. He travels up and down the road, the flat tires he's had, the quitting of broken down automobiles, and him getting along on his way has been based upon his faith to overcome his adversity. And he's learned his lessons well, so now they're habitual with him.
He seems to trust in God wherever he goes. But I know, brethren, that we've got to obtain more faith. And the only way we'll obtain it is desire and workshop and begin to look to these things. Now I know that there's men in this congregation that are doing these things. But I know there's some who are not. Because the strength of this people is not sufficient yet to obtain the blessing from the other side that we must have. We read in Sunday School this morning.
experience that President John Taylor had back in September 1886 over that revelation on plural marriage. It's been the life and salvation of this people, the revelation that God gave him. Now how did he obtain it? He was in hiding. Passers, all the leading men throughout Mormondom were pressing with letters and everything else and messages telling him he had to do something. He had to do something.
They were going to take their property, not only the property in Salt Lake City, but all the leading men in Arizona and all around the country were going to have their property confiscated in consequence of their offices that they held in the church, which applied to 6,000 people. And they were anxious that President Taylor appeased the government. And there stood a man of God. He knew that his allegiance belonged. He knew whose servant he was. He knew that he had no right.
God be good to the laws of God and the peace of people. So in his adversity, he went to the Lord, and he obtained his answers, besides the hungering and thirsting that he had after the righteousness of the kingdom of God. And he obtained information that kept his people going now for about 80 years. 75 years he has lived on the revelation that President Taylor got, and the brethren that followed in the wake of that momentous occasion. And he finally got a keeper. He remarked, My hand that time of God better bottle and better muscle to have the people like this that they're living in the millennium They have to really have it because they believe it is as long as these ladies know as well as women And they still be at the same place that we are Where the bottle would stand be right here right now? He's in my place and I bet dollars to doughnuts that he would fail. This is a good people They cannot get enough now. How are we gonna?
Get your good enough. Unless you're hungry and thirst after the things of the kingdom of God. And that not only is few, but all of you. We can get young men to hunger and thirst. We can get the young women to hunger. Up to a certain place. But after that, they don't hunger and thirst anymore. I think that we've got to move as a people. I appreciate the faith and prayer of this people on behalf of the council. It's been a great change from all this in the past year. Tremendously.
You know, we're going to a home now. In fact, you hear the people pray for Brother Johnson. He's the head of the priesthood, and that's the way it ought to be. And as their prayers are, so shall their lives be. And they pray for the Lord to bless Brother Johnson. They're being inclined to blessing themselves. It's a strength in the hand of this work. But that isn't them. And we've got a hunger and thirst after these things with all our might, mind, and strength. It's a command of God. It's not going to be sufficient for those people to go on.
Fundamentalist Mormons, he called not long ago. Fundamentalist Mormons. You can get the church up to a person's head, but they're here. You can't get them up to here. They don't want to go up to them. I don't know why I don't want to be excused. I don't want the Lord particularly to reveal to me about the faults of the people and to get into pinpointing the weaknesses and making me the whole feeling bad. We can talk about the conditions of the past and maybe they'll touch the church. I know. I saw in my days with my own eyes.
Things that went before my childhood, very young child, that I, the raging of the women, and my mother was secretary in the Relief Society, and I was an only child, and I sat with them, it seemed like, all the time. I remember the disposition of the parts of the women to condemn and to criticize the wearing of the garments of the holy people. That's history. It's written right in my mind.
Now the golem pled with the women to keep their death and their demeanor in keeping with their covenant. I remember this. I've heard for 20 years now the golem to plead with the sisters to wear their clothes in keeping with the covenant that they are going to have to make. And you can get them to do it for two weeks, three weeks, or two months. And after that, why, it starts to total off again.
I better come and lay some beautiful material on my lap. The dress you're going to make, she says, you're going to have three-quarter length sleeves. I said, why not seven-eighths? She didn't know what I was talking about. Doctor, let me stand. You've got three-quarter sleeves, you've got three-quarter sleeves, and that was it. You women ought to have your sleeves down. Not three-quarters, and not even seven-eighths. They ought to be eight-eighths. And they ought to stay there through time and all eternity.
At least see your sojourn upon this earth, because that's the nature of your taste. And they won't change. Wanting out because you have to go buy a blast and haven't time to make one. Well, you get my sympathy. But I can't change the law. Brother Johnson can't change the law. There's priesthood in all there. Mike, the boy, those people, they all combined. They can't change the law. That's it. How hard do you hunger and thirst?
It seems to me, if you let me swear a little, that you know damn well that the one mighty and strong isn't going to come for a while, or you wouldn't buy a three-quarter sleeve. The fear that you'd have to throw it away. We continue to go to these stores, and because they don't furnish full-length sleeves, we buy what they've got. Now, this is not a particularly fighting with you women. I'm just talking about a condition. Conditions. We don't seem to put ourselves up to the mark when we want to sell it. We just keep backing away from it.
I've gone home after one of these sermons that I've given, and I've seen my folks put on long-sleeved blouses under their house dresses and everything else. And how long did it last? It didn't last a week. It didn't last a thing like that. Now, I'm not asking anybody to change their character. The condition of your mind is just asking a little change in their character. And you can't follow through with failure. Now, where are our desires? Where is our hope?
As far as I love, as far as I ask for it. You can't anymore take you people and do with you like you'd want to without changing these things. You cannot be done. Johnson can't go to the Lord and say, well, now here, I've got a people that I can do this and so. You can't do it. I don't have one family. This whole society where you can pick them one right after the other and line them up and say, well, we're ready to do this. Now that's one thing. That's one thing.
I think the dead are coming along. I think they're coming along. It's the evidence of obedience and response. The financial response that this people has made has been a tremendous interest, in my estimation, to your faith. It's strengthened you and supported the work and took you way down the road to where you used to be. Because you've proven where your affections are. And you're backing it up. I haven't heard one man murmur. Not one.
There's a hardship that he's had overcoming his debt. It is incurred in behalf of this priesthood I have incurred it. I guess I've come near and I'm going to talk to myself. I'm going to make a statement and I'll make it. You've done him just the right thing. The law of celestial marriage is an essential part of your priesthood. But your wives are not going to save you. The priesthood is going to save you. It isn't going to be your wives that invite you up in the kingdom of God. It's going to be the priesthood. Mother Johnson isn't wearing leather.
family is going to get him along the road very often. He's wondering, I've heard him talk, I've heard Guy talk, and I've heard the others talk. The wonderment of the cost of priesthood is how we stand as a priesthood on the other side. Think Brother Bonner and Brother Muffin, Brother Giddens, they are our immediate predecessors of the men that we're acquainted with and established in the work of the Lord. Our anxieties is how they feel part of us and whether they're satisfied with the work that we're doing.
and the things that we're accustomed to. And we're confident that there's a man that's going to call us up after we find ourselves accessible in their eyes. And they're, consequently, I suppose, anxious about those that preside over them. They're anxious about the law in the future. They're anxious about whether Taylor's here. To see whether Taylor's going to own and bless and sustain this dispensation that the Lord let him do it for the salvation of the people. I'm sure that they're anxious.
I bet him labor and preach and bring your families because they're an essential part of your priesthood. But it's not the part of your priesthood that's going to exalt you. It's the priesthood of God. After the order of Melchizedek, which is after the order of the Son of God, that will bring a man up and exalt him. And these are the things that we should look forward to. We try to bring ourselves into subjection to and place our desires to. And in placing our desires, why?
We may have to go out and work for the Gentiles. We may have to go do that and so. But let's let our hopes and desires and ambitions be upon the affairs of the kingdom. I look back on my going up days in this work and long for some counsel as to how I ought to do. And now I believe that I could give you a little. I could give myself a little. We wonder what we ought to do. Well, I can tell you what we ought to do. In the days of your accountability in this work, Your hopes and aspirations should be the establishment of the kingdom of God. And your hearts and feelings and affections should be separated from the things of this world. And you say, but a home in the Alpha Genoa. Well, I can make it quite specific. I don't think a man's hearts and feelings should be set upon a home. Nor a home. You want to change it to be specific. It shouldn't be centered upon his home. His home should be the incident.
to carrying out of his ambitions and establishing the work of God and house his family and so forth. And to have to waste excessive money on homes and houses unless the Lord directs it is a mistake. I've heard a lot about my sins. I have some skeletons probably in my closet, but houses haven't been one of them. And I don't think that we ought to be leveling and gloating over a damned heart, nor a heart, nor an automobile.
No job. I think if we go and work for these people and do a good, honest day's work, and the nature of our being and so forth, and meet with their wants and needs, we'll let them go and get another one. I don't feel like it. We've got to be so diligent and so affectionate in our work that we're going to get attention from them. It comes to my mind, and I'm going to say that too, and I'll tell you in the name of the Lord, that the man in this group that works for attention will prosper. Believe this.
To get your feelings and your hearts and your ambitions, that's what I shouldn't do. I want something that went through me as it's often done to me. And Brother Johnson told me the other day, and that is, I don't know if it was ever there or not, but he told us that we shouldn't try to establish ourselves. Our old age and our lives in the laps of the Gentiles are in their system. To establish our retirement in our old age in the kingdom of God. I made those remarks.
15 or 20 years ago to this people, and it scares me more today than I think about it. I don't want my life, after I've labored in the kingdom of God, I don't want it to be dependent upon suckers and the Gentiles in my old age. If God won't take care of me, why, I'd have my children there, or somebody else, if I get to be confident. I'd a whole lot rather do that than to be dependent upon them and their institutions, because I want my life and my labor.
to be directed toward my heaven, their Father. Now, exactly just like in the ancient scripture, how they said, the Father gave Christ, and the Lord told Enoch, which is something I might have seen here, Enoch saw God reach, and so forth, and the Lord turned to Enoch and told him that these people were the creation of his own hand, that he gave them their knowledge, and had instructed them that they should receive him as their Father. Now, that's...
I can't say my disposition has been all my life. I've had to choose God as my father, and I have had frustrations and feelings of betrayal go over me, and I relied on insurance back in Idaho long before I had anything good here. Men come and scare the hell out of me and make me think that I was going to die tomorrow and leave my wife and two little kids to die while they're not buying some insurance on me. Men, I feel that I've betrayed God.
And I felt worse then than I did in France, man, let me tell you. Then the next thing you'd come do, I wouldn't tell you. You cheated me out of some money. I say, let them go their way, brother. Let them go their way. Fear that God testifies to me that this is our house. This is the place where we could place our lives. Where we could do our work and where our hopes, our aspirations, and our fondest desires could be. And I would desire that we could have the pleasant...
Hope is looking forward to an increase in our devotion, in our supplications toward God, for the establishment of His kingdom. I have every confidence that there's talent and ability enough in God's people, and He'll raise up additional people to manage this thing. This is really designed. It's showing this thing here to you tonight, just about to be done. Just about to be done. The wardrobe.
I'll be right here, I'll just do it for you. But if tomorrow, if tonight, we notify you that you're all to be in the temple in the morning, and if you go, go through and receive your endowment from your covenants, you should have to kill the half of your covenants. And maybe not every one of you, but as a whole. I'll let Paul, if you women have half of it, it'll have to be discarded or remastered before you can wear it the next day. Now, how does that end it? If you haven't confidence in your covenants, they get up and...
to teach hellfire and damnation and thunder to you. If you ought to do this and so on, you're scared of it for one day and you go out and do something and then the next day the fever dies and you say, well, I'll do it from the time. And the time will never come to not come in the lives of this people unless they're designed and manifest by our dispositions and our hopes and our aspirations and our inward and outward conduct to better their lives, to level them.
The Lord has given unto us garments of the Holy Spirit. And you know what that means, and yet there are those of us who mutilate them, in order that we may follow the foolish, vain, and permit me to say, indecent practices of the world. In order that such people may imitate the fashions, they will not hesitate to mutilate that which is beheld by them, the most sacred of all things in the world, next to their own virtue.
next to their own purity of life. They should hold these things that God has given them to them sacred, unchanged, and unaltered from the very patterns in which God gave them. Let us have the moral courage to stand against the opinions of fashion, and especially for fashion to tell us to break the covenant and commit a dubious sin. That's it. Good for you. Well, that was How long ago? It was 1960, it says, it says. I saw it about 1918. I sent a public letter in 1950. It was 45 years ago. Well, he lost the fight, Devin. Willis R. Smith lost the fight. The people turned away and did as they pleased. Are we going to lose it? Are we going to get a change of that in our lives and the physical things and the things that we can do?
Friendship is purported from the things that we have difficulty doing. I don't think that a woman is going to be entirely submissive to her husband. I haven't observed it that way. The things she breaks and does these things is contrary to the covenant. A woman that's living in a relationship of celestial marriage should assume that she's done through the covenant. A woman that's been fooled by a man for time and all eternity should assume that she's done through the covenant.
and conduct yourself accordingly, and address and have a path of being keeping with a cognizance that you would have made, or will make, as quickly as the opportunity is afforded to you. I pray for you to do the same thing. You young men, I've told you before, and I couldn't argue that I didn't, but don't worry, there's this underwear, shorts, and shirt-stoppers with you. I don't keep it, it's a piece of it.
If they reach the age where you're eligible for a mission and the Lord's laid a hand on you, do away with it. And find something to wear that's more acceptable, that covers your body. If you young women are approaching the age where you're going to enter the law of marriage, that's to tear your minds to death according to your covenant. These things that they throw around for underwear, except they're reputable, you're practically naked. It's not conducive to good moral strength.
The garments of the holy priesthood are a strength to you. And if a woman will keep them proper and unmutilated upon her body, she'll be strong. The same thing is true with a man. They are a source of strength to you and a comfort and a protection to your body, both morally and physically. I presume that that's why there's so much weakness among us. The Lord, the devil, is the target of this blessing and we stand...
and hardship for all the time before the Lord because we've been cut off from the ordinances of the house of God because of disobedience. And even those that have the temper have been cut off from the ordinances of the house of God. The third and fourth generation and forever for some of them. We've got to change these things in order to get back into the grace of God. This condemnation has been pronounced.
John the Lord back in 1832 has continued in one thing after another until finally the people had been stripped of everything but the associations of patience and the teachings of the devil. That's all he got left. That's the order. People if they had laid low on their graves tomorrow, the grave majority would have to have their work done by car because we haven't qualified ourselves in the eyes of God.
to have these things said or not. That's the state that we're in. And yet we seem to go along as happily and as cheerfully as though we had our right mind. And I tell you, we need to be concerned about our condition. If God would be upon us, be upon us all, be upon the council, that sometimes, well, if the people ought to pray, they may pray, if the Lord would sustain and uphold the decisions of the council, if he should, well, in accordance with his mind and will.
It's the great majority of us. Sometimes our lack of physical attitude, the fact that we don't care, neither here nor there, we eat just the same and wear just the same and have meetings just the same. Other things are far too against us, allowing us into a carnal security and state of sleepiness that we're not alert and awake. But if we had pressure on us, if we had pressure on us and you're sending your children and your messengers and your...
various rungs for the council to do something for you, then we'd find a different disposition on the part of this people. So I think if you ought to pray, while we have this right to pray, the ability to get around and take care of ourselves, I ask the Lord to sustain the decisions of the people. Incidentally, we should continue to pray against the enemy, not most faithfully. The Lord is denying the killers, is uniting against this people.
And then let's try to live according to our prayers and justify God in answering them. If we'll do this, we'll see good days. And I pray in the spirit of God again that we'll find this people. That we'll not have to participate and be subject to the judgment of God that's going to go through these inter-mountain countries. Joseph F. Smith said that he saw, quote, on the door of every letter they sent home. Now what? The judgment of death.
dead from house to house because of their rebellion and disobedience to the people. And they were all brought into fire. Now these things don't have to be our life if we'll keep the commandments of God and live above them. But the Johnson has repeatedly told his people that they'll be protected and that the judgments of God would pass over us if we'd live so that God could bless us and honor us and claim us as his own. Which I hope we'll do in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
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- From the Historical Short Creek archive, 1960 documents. Duration 54:46. Automatic transcript (unreviewed). Speaker identification is from the archive file name, checked against the opening of the recording where it names or introduces the speaker.
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