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General meeting, Salt Lake City, 20 March 1960

Automatic transcript of a general meeting at the Fischer home in Salt Lake City on 20 March 1960. The archive file is labeled as the general meeting itself, not as a single speaker. This page is the automatic transcript of that recording, which may include more than one speaker. The text is lightly paragraphed for reading. The recording itself is the source.

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Sister Davenport is in the congregation. Brother Johnson says our treaty promise is waiting up here. Please come forward. Much of our congregation is hidden from us. We can't tell who's here and who isn't. I'm so sorry. I'm still thankful for the home and the house and the shelter. I'm thankful for the gospel. We begin our meeting tonight by singing on page 13. Come, come ye saints.

Thank you. Thank you. Our next song will be found on page 114. More holy misgivings, 114. It's indeed a pleasure for us, brothers and sisters, to meet you here. Peaceful and delightful circumstances. It's now just gratitude. The facilities that we have to meet in, teachers, federal and general duties, and directing the saints to their chairs, helping with their parking problems. We're grateful for the presence of Brother Johnson.

Residing at this meeting, all the members of the council here, if his substance is better than just, he is excused. I see he's here and he has good, usually good spirits and good health. I feel like the spirit of God is here, so I hope I'm deeply grateful. In this work, the greater understanding that I obtain, I see how grateful I am. I have no thought of my condition and circumstances in life, as low as they are.

I view the circumstances of our enemies from time to time, and the pomp and glory in which they live, and realize that they're pitted against us and determined to destroy. I wouldn't change my faith for those. I feel like that my hope is greater than theirs. I know that the purposes of God will triumph in the end, but not as very little as it comes with me. But still, to have my good end came in.

And I haven't got one of these. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I feel like Brother Hammond when he says that the longer he lives in this church, the more thankfully he's proud and he wouldn't trade places with those who were determined to get rid of us. And they had their pomp and their show and their iron and their braids, but I wouldn't trade places either. Even though they might laugh at me and laugh at my job from day to day.

I'm still here to thank the Lord for knowledge I have of this world. I'm indeed truly grateful for the life of the Catholic Judge Smith and the wonderful work he introduced through the help of the Lord in these latter days. I'm grateful for the help that I have. He taught me fundamental principles.

and encouraged me in the same. Even though they didn't care, believe, during my younger days, and the principle of care and love being lived today, they knew that it was wrong. And their eyes used to teach me children that if you couldn't say anything good about it, you should never say anything bad. And for that, I'm grateful. Because I know there's so many Embittered against the principle, we can never see the light of it. Great poem to this, the Lord, for the husband I had, who taught me to see and understand, more fully this work, and for the example he set us, and for the start he has given us to go on in this life. It is my desire and...

I hope that I can live worthy of doing these things that he would have me to do. Because I know that my first judge, after I live this life, will be my husband. Because I should be with him after I live this life. I am grateful to my Heavenly Father's presence. Good God in whom I try so hard.

Teach us in the way that we should go. And I sincerely desire and hope for each and every one of us that we will take heed to the teachings that they teach us while they are teaching us the truth. And we will never, in all divine hands, gain the goal that we are seeking unless we adhere to those teachings that they give us.

And I pray that the Lord will bless each and every one of us, that we will have receptive minds to those people that have given in to us from time to time, saying, dude, it's a wonderful privilege we've had, and an opportunity that we don't know how long it's going to last. So if we can feed while we have the chance, before it is too late, so I feel that the time is going fast.

that we won't always have these privileges. And that we're going to be sorry for not making the best use of our time and our opportunities if we aren't careful. And may they not help us. May we strive harder to overcome those things which are holding us back and holding us near. May we support our brethren as we spread and dignify our lives.

and make it more sacred, make our lives more sacred from day to day. I humbly pray in Jesus' name. I'm certainly pleased, my dear brother and sister, to meet with you tonight and every time we have an opportunity for that now. Certainly gives me joy and satisfaction to see so many of you that are interested in coming to these meetings. My humble praise is how I, after a few minutes, will be directed by the Spirit of the Lord. I am going to say something that will be of benefit. I have to bear my testimony for the truthfulness of the gospel.

It seems like from my earliest youth I've never doubted it. And I do hope that my testimony has grown with the years. Because I do want to be able to endure all things until the end. But forever the Lord sees this. He takes this on. It seems like we have wonderful privileges. If we could just stop to realize them.

My brethren, I have been aging and aging has to circumvent our lives, but you might be among the first people that would come out and make the most of their things. I think I read a little to you concerning these people. We've had some of our older prophets, yet a lot of their prophets, have told us. Devil down the lake lives in 1875 said, Many will doubtless make shitless of their faith, and will be led away by the allurements of sin into vile and forbidden paths. Yet the kingdom will not be taken from this people, and given to another. But a people will confess, and among us, who will be jealous of good works, willing to do the bidding of the Lord.

who will be caught in his ways and who will walk in his paths. Now, do you want to be God's people? Are you willing to apply these things to their lives and become one in heart and mind? If the people is in it for us, if they're going to meet God's people, we must work to that end. Again, President Donald H.R. Stroud in 1882, You have often been asked the question, Can your kingdom be given into the hands of the saints to the most high God? And I have always answered in this way, Just as soon as the Lord signs that he has people upon the earth who will uphold and sustain that kingdom, he shall be found capable of maintaining it into and of expanding its influence upon the earth. When he finds that he has such a people, a people that will stand firm and faithful to him, a people that will not turn it over into the hands of the devil, then, and not until then, will he give the kingdom into the hands of the saints who know Christ in its time and time.

Then it shall fill the whole earth. The promise is that the kingdom of this world shall become the kingdom of our God and his Christ, and it shall be given to the saints to the most high, and it shall stand forever. That is when we may expect it, and we should not easily expect it any sooner. Therefore, it depends on a great measure.

A time of people going fair. Now where your hearts dependent on each one of us. Do you want to be a man about people? Are you going to rally around the priesthood and heed their teachings and their warnings of them trying to kill us? If I can read a life with a time short. The Lord is ready to rob people if he can get our souls ready for him. The promise is that God is when you may expect it and you could not reasonably expect it any sooner. Therefore, it becomes a great measure upon the people themselves as to how soon the kingdom of God, the kingdom spoken of by Daniel, shall be given into the hands of the saints of God.

Come, let us repeat ourselves faithfully in every emergency that may arise, and capable to contend and grapple with every difficulty that threatens our peace and welfare, and to overcome every obstacle that may contend to the progress of the Church and Kingdom of God upon the earth. Then our Heavenly Father will have confidence in us.

And then he will be able to trust us. And if we, as a people, do not hold ourselves on the altar, ready to be used by means, and all that God has bestowed upon us, according to the master's bidding, for the upbuilding of his kingdom upon the earth, he will cast on and get somebody else, because he will get a keeper.

That will do it. I do not mean to say that he will pass on and leave his people. No, they will come up from the midst of his people, that people which has been talked so much about. For the kingdom will not be taken from us and given to another people. It is too late in the day, as it has already been.

commence to go, and it is going, and will continue to go. Now if it was too late in the day, back in 1892, how much time have we got? Not very much. So it behooves us, each and every one, to be on our toes, and apply these principles to our lives, and become one. Now we need to We need to get back to this priesthood as we knew in Genesis that they require of us and not hesitate to do their bidding. Because the Lord will have this people. And if we want to be among them, we have the opportunity to be just that people. And I pray the Lord will inspire and touch us.

Touch our hearts in understanding that we will see more clearly our duty before him, that we may come out and be that people that he that has been spoken of. People see him there, himself, good. The time will come when the Lord will keep those people out of his people, upon whom he will bestow his gracious blessings. Now, do you want to be that people?

I hope and pray that you do, and that the Lord will give us strength and faith to carry on our humble prayer in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. do not know the importance of our relationship with our Father in heaven and the priesthood and the saints and what our full duty is. We ourselves have spent so many years under the influence of Christian wives and our fathers before us back to the days of the original apostles that our characters are so cluttered up.

With the traditions of how to worship and what we owe to our Father in Heaven, that it's merely impartial for us to receive, without debate and argument, and without procrastination, the things the Lord asks us to do. And the only reason He asks us to do these things is because He loves us and He has proposed to make us like Himself.

And now after that he has given us our lives, it is his responsibility, if possible, to prepare us to return into his presence and to associate with him, to be congenial with him, to see as he sees, and do things as he does them, and to be able to receive to ourselves and to our glory everything that he possesses.

So the purpose in his desire to teach us is not to gain a vain ambition, but it's because of his love and his covenant with us and his desire to help us to regain our primeval condition and return into his presence. He fully realizes, having once been upon the earth, that we are beset with peace.

terrible traditions in our character. And so the gospel has been organized in such a way that will enable us to overcome these things if we will surrender ourselves in a hundred percent way. It's calculated to do this very thing for us if we will surrender ourselves. If we don't surrender ourselves, why?

We have no time. Our bloodlines have been washed, some closer than others, by the powers on the other side. But even though our bloodline has been washed, we have come into the lone and weary world. And through years of assimilating the natures of our characters to the systems of this celestial world, we have become contaminated with many doctrines.

and with many ways of life that are not right in the eyes of our Father in heaven. So he knows that in order for us to receive our exaltation and become that pure people as the prophets have spoken of, there has to be a drastic change. We have to be shocked out of our present condition and a drastic change.

has to take place in the nature of our character. Now, in every dispensation and in every age, the Lord has received to reveal the same lies for us to obey in order to accomplish it. Now, many of you may wonder what you can do in order to prove yourselves faithful and true in the eyes of the Lord.

And we have spoken about these things many times when you're here. But as Brother Harmon has often said, the people and their fallen and human nature needs projects. He was speaking particularly of temporal projects to keep our hands and eyes and feet busy. and our thoughts in the right place, which apparently is very true. But additional to that, we need spiritual projects which make us be faithful every hour of our lives. And for this reason, the Lord has restored the gospel with its ordinances, covenants, laws and rules which we partake of, and which, if obeyed, will make us live our religion every moment of our lives. Just to illustrate this, I might bring up a thought out of my style here, to illustrate what I'm trying to say. Now, I say unto you,

That it was expedient that there should be a law given to the children of Israel, yea, even a very strict law. Now we are children of Israel. We pride ourselves that we are the sons and daughters of Abraham. For they were a stiff-necked people, quick to do iniquity. and slow to remember the Lord their God. Therefore, there was a law given to them, yea, a law of performances and ordinances, a law which they were to observe strictly day by day, to keep them in remembrance.

of God and their duty towards me. Now that's put just about as much as it can be put. As what our church is relaxed, being too pure is relaxed. And as what is required of us to keep the law in remembrance and to know what our duty is towards God. Now the prophet here had a particular lesson.

to the act of burned offering and sacrifice, which the people performed under many conditions. Now instead of the burned offering and the animal sacrifice, the Lord has said, I want a contrite spirit and a broken heart. So instead of when you pray tomorrow morning, Instead of you killing a sheep and burning it on the altar, or taking other material there to offer in sacrifice to the Lord, what is required? A contrite spirit and a broken heart. Can you understand that? And how many of you, when you approach an interview in the morning with Father, that you approach it with a contrite heart, a spirit and a broken heart. Why a broken heart? Your heart has broken now that you have found out your awful condition in the eyes of your Father in Heaven and that you have found that he has placed you under a terrible condemnation which has withdrawn his spirit from you.

And your heart is broken. And your spirit filled with the depth. Of conciseness and humility. Or do we approach our burned offering. Or our sacrifice. As a flesh. As a hotness. A high mindedness. Vanity. Because we are forced to do it. Because we fear if we don't. Something will happen to us. With the only preparedness. To ask.

to demand, as we can see by the prophets before. They told us that this is a great moral battle to keep this spirit and characteristic morality under God alive in our character and not give way to the teachings, the customs, the ways, the mannerisms. of the world. The Lord has instructed us in every conceivable way. He said to our Father that I will give you every key necessary for you to overcome death, hell, and the grave. And the only way to overcome those three elements is by becoming like him, which finally gives us the advantage and power. So knowing the disposition of his children, and having had thousands of years of experience with the best of them, he has taught us to do everything. He's told us how to clothe our bodies. Now that's an important thing. A very important thing to everybody except the middle.

But to most everybody else, it's one of the most important things outside of Eden that you can do. There's a covering of your body. And how many of you, with your tongue-tied mind and broken heart, debate and argue and get up an altercation with your Heavenly Father over the manner of your death?

Think of it. Just how many? How many every day that you pray, try to make some excuse that your employment, your association, the condition of your body, the condition of your health, you can't stand this, you can't stand that. Imagine how you would feel, how you do feel, when your children get up in altercation, with you when you're teaching along those lines. Perhaps one of the most important things in life, in the spiritual life, which leads many to destruction, is how to cover the naked body by the gate. Try taking care. Simply and beautifully. Time, conditions, age, has nothing to do with it.

He has specifically instructed us in our mannerisms. The Doctrine and Covenants is full of revelations respecting the type of mannerisms we should develop in our character. Our laughter should not be loud. And so forth. You have all read these things. I'm just throwing them to you. But instead of laughing like the Gentiles, or the wicked in our speech, in our singing, in our laughter, in our walking, in everything that we do. We should pattern after the way the Lord has told us and pattern. We should receive it without dispute and without debate or altercation. Now you can see.

With the application of all these rules, they're actually covenants. The application of all these covenants that the Lord has given us in our physical life, how that we would be automatically given or separated from the people in the world, which would make it easier and more possible for us to cling to God.

and his people that he would just do it for you. The homes you buy, the furniture you have, everything is related to principle and is connected with your character. And Father has given it all to us. He has given all these news and regulations that he calls ordinances, performances, and covenants. Covenants.

And He has placed His only covenant to make these performances strictly every day. And thus, by making them every day, we draw closer to Him. And we are taught how to most fully observe these lives and keep in mind our duty to Him. And thus His Spirit is given to us. For as if we don't, make these performances daily, we develop the spirit of procrastination and procrastination until finally we lose the spirit of love and the spirit of these performances and forget the duty we owe him. Like if we don't pay our financial dues to the Lord all the time. It's very easy to forget it.

Brigham Young the prophet, that I can never pay back the back tithing that I owe to the Lord. Mr. Max, prayer is a performance that we have to meet and to keep in mind. Prayer, personal and family prayer, is a performance that is imperative to keep in order to remember our duty to the Lord.

And what our key association is with him. And yet how many of you are thinking, this very minute, how hard it is, or how impossible it is to get the family together, to have your family together, to have your private, your private energy, if you have your private. But this is a daily, strict performance. And why has he made it this strict?

Because of our swiftness and because we are swift to do iniquity and slow to remember the Lord our God. I like the attitude of Sister Bella. I've been with her when she has been under stress. When she has asked the Lord for a blessing. And the Lord has given her a blessing. And every time I notice that before...

she likes the threats in her face, she says, now I must thank the Lord for the blessing he has given me. And are those a strict performance? Is it not? The spirit of God it is. A strict performance. Rather than waiting for a day or two, then it's forgotten. And the performance isn't made. For these laws have been given to us as children of Israel for the purpose of protecting our character. The Lord knows what we do and what we will do under given circumstances. And so daily we are procrastinating the day of our retirement and are not making the progress that we should make because we are not strictly performing as we have made a covenant to do.

And that's all that we have got to do, my dear brethren and sisters. Redemption exam belongs to the Lord. And you're not powerful enough to convert your little finger to anything. None of you. But you do have the wisdom and the revelation and the strength and the know-how to live every hour under the direction of the Spirit of the Lord.

arising in the morning before you do a thousand and one things for wicked man. You should go out of your sleeping place and interview the Lord and express gratitude to him that he has permitted you to awaken and to arise and to ask his spirit and power to be upon you in the performance of your duty.

And to direct you to that day. That's a simple thing. A simple gesture of gratitude. And then begin to work under the direction of that expression of gratitude. And take up your duties one after another. And that's all that there is hard to do. Maybe at noon you'll sit down in your chair and your spirit will go away.

That's what I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I have to ask you this. I'm trying to think about that. Yes, each duty that devolves upon you is formed under the direction of your public. The simplest of children can remember that and understand it. That's all there is to it. And thus, we can say at the close of this day, to the best and now, a birthday.

Though I am weak, and my character appears awful in the eyes of my father, I feel like I have done my best. And that's all that you have to do. Have your interview, and ask him if he will protect you through your sleep. Eight or ten hours of sleep, with wickedness hanging over the earth, and you being completely out, paralyzed, and asleep. So ask him if he will send angels to watch over you.

and bless you with peace, that you might be protected with spirit in your body. How can we miss the ministry if we would follow these simple rules? And they're so simple and so easy. You just require the only chance to accomplish it. You just require this contact spirit and this broken heart. If you've got to get to the place where you're willing to receive the word of God, on faith, by faith, and apply it. I know that too many of us don't believe that we're under condemnation. I know that many on this building tonight don't believe that they're under condemnation because they have cheated life through the things of God and because of their unbelief and their vanity. We place them under. We might have aspirations for the things and things.

The creations of God are wonderful, yes, but not the creations of man. They are only used by God, and they are the curse. Now, this doesn't mean that we have to go on with a seat over and a sand over to receive. That's no degree of sign of humility, excellence, or faith. That's a sign, and a silly sign at that. Really, Jesus Christ came just in the night through the clouds.

according to the customs of the day. In 1886, back when Joseph Smith was holding a meeting, he walked through the building in his clothing. He walked through the room without his clothes, and his clothing was so much like the clothing that Joseph and the other brethren wore that the brethren didn't even notice him. So these other performances by the neck indicate nothing, but I said they were in the work of the law.

Now the Lord wants a performance of that. He wants us to come to understanding of why we're under condemnation. He wants us to realize what he has done for us and what he allowed his son, his beloved son to do for us. Then when we understand that and understand what little we have done, our hearts will break. Our hearts will break and we will weep.

and weep, and weep, as our Savior wept, and wept, and wept, and as his Father wept, and wept, we will join their weeping, and we will join their broken hearted condition. With our broken heart, when we think of what they have done, and what the saints have done, that we might become Adam.

And we, in our own right, I want to tell you it should break our hearts. And when we think of our wasted lives, even though we have not committed the great sins of theft, murder, and adultery, that are great sinful lies, up until the hour that we have become enlightened. Because we haven't received the word of God. We have neglected it. We haven't received the covenant he has wanted to. And for many years, we have been assimilating our own character into the likeness of the character of our Gentiles, same customs, not knowing the difference in our ignorance. And so, our hearts should become broken.

And we find that our offer is great compared to our Father in heaven and his Son, Jesus Christ. These are the key facts. God bless you too. Have our geniuses, our strength, and have the arm of Christ to lean upon. And God bless you too. God bless you. This is our strength. We compare ourselves with one another.

We compare ourselves with the wicked. We compare ourselves with the Gentile church. And in this comparison, we find that we are quite fine people in our nation. But brethren and sisters, the judgment, the judgment will not compare us with each other. The judgment will be a comparison.

It's God. Our character is the character of God. That's what the judges are doing. And so we, to a more or less degree, fall under this indictment. They all, without ceasing, continue to commend themselves by measuring themselves by themselves and comparing themselves among themselves.

find themselves favored of themselves, and forget what the Lord said of themselves. By being adherent to the principle, to the fullness of the gospel, which is just about the place we mentally find ourselves in. And we forget what Father has said of ourselves, that we are under condemnation.

will stay under condemnation until you repent of your sins and receive the new covenant. And this new covenant comprises the ordinances and the laws and the commandments relating to the fullness of the gospel, which has been given to us by strict performance and might affect the nature of our church. And we will stay under this condemnation.

Until we receive this and repent and begin to not only say, but do. Just a glorious opportunity, my dear brothers and sisters. The brethren who are interested in this on the other side are working with us. And they hold out great hope for us. They're happy and peaceful and vibrant and progressive.

wonderful work. And if you could see them, you would rejoice at their appearance and at their attitude to what they're doing. This people is their people. It's the people that they have brought up and belong to them. And they're expecting something else. But we must begin to perform rather than sit there. I know what my weaknesses are.

And I know if I don't perform, I procrastinate. And I know that's an evil in their eyes and in the eyes of my Father in Heaven. And my heart is kept in a broken condition. I must perform by the hour. Because the nature that I have developed and that has been placed in me is a nature to forget, to procrastinate, to put off.

And to not perform, for all that you tired of me, is to perform simply as it be, and as I have no trouble with being. For all of you government sisters are under the same responsibility. And less that I am, you are far more learned and intelligent than I am. And I know that you know you as well as I know myself. And so you know that you've got to...

back yourselves up, restrict yourselves as though you were a little child, and learn how to perform by the hour, according to your covenant, and leave your needs. If you do this, do what is right, let the consequence fall. If you do this, if you will perform according to the person who told you, and according to the covenant you have made, Wives and husbands and children, if you are performed by the hour, within a few months, a smile and adoration of the Lord will be upon you, and the brethren will be proud to see you and to praise their confidence in you. It's just as simple as teaching with consent. A great task. Thank you.

Could you show me that you could stand for a minute? Every one of you would be able to answer yes or no. I can stand for a minute. Let's do it. Let's do it. As requested that I take some of the time. I'm going to do it. Pray for the Spirit of God to continue with us and to bless me with the audiences that I could expect.

and mutual benefit. Recognize my weaknesses by the grace of God. Continue in my life and my legacy. This is the work that you're engaged in as well. Things that are beginning to impress upon my mind are creating a condition of me and me as my, to put it this way, I'm gaining a sound respect for the principles of God.

Maybe I've always had to a more or less degree, but they're beginning to shape up in my mind to a place where I can see the tremendous worth lies with the people. I pray with God, and we take it as famous all the time, and it's just the gospel that Mother and Father always talked about, and I try to comply with. It still has a meaningless place. Come to go to understand, go to appreciate.

these matters than we've ever done before. For we can be brought up to a place where we can be used and blessed and exalted. And as if people need to be blessed, it's just about as animated the day where I said that they should be. And still a bunch of people like you ought to meet, not the reformers. The gospel of Jesus Christ, when it was introduced to us in our spirit condition.

It certainly meant a good deal more to us all than it meant to us here. I'm sure it animated our little brother Jesus Christ to a place where he stepped forth in his acts of danger and eloquence and dignity that he had to reach. He was able to anticipate and recognize the condition that our father's children would slip into when he came to this earth and brought them into a condition of mortality.

And he was able to contemplate that. And the great labor of renovation and redemption and atonement that must be found. And then he offered him to send to his children. And through that, I see some amazing devotion. It makes me feel pretty lowly and humble and weak and sad. And we see what the principles of life and salvation have done for our Father.

When we get to a place where we can understand how firmly stuck that the gate is open, and patient and long-suffering that he possesses, having gone through a mortal state and dying after a condition, where he can endure the glory and the great capacity that he said he's bigger now, we then could begin to have greater respect for the God, and could cherish it more and would have a greater desire to apply it to our lives. I'm Fred Young.

I remember when I was being teased by Brother Jarvis Mucker when I was in Idaho and trying to go along with the church and he snubbed me to that post and says, don't you dare do anything with the justification of those people telling you off in the church. I tried to go along and I was blabbing to this man about the temptation of the gospel and my father just turned on me and said, Miriam, because I don't want to be rejected.

I love our duty and responsibility that they don't want to progress in the kingdom of our Father. With all that the laborers are so grand a being and so generous to know the better and the blood of the prophets be spilled upon the ground for their sake, they're not without the height and depth of our ambition. They've generally been considered a lazy man. There's certainly a few things that guide them. Billy Serrani, for I have to ginger up and clean him up out of the car and the height of the laborers.

And I can't stand to see people sacrifice for me. But I have some sense of gratitude being manifest on that. I go through my life and I see the power of God that is growing before me. Day after day, and I see the buoyancy that comes up with me in the morning when I lay down at night willing to die and never be resurrected. And I'm beginning to teach me what God does for each child. What He does for me in a personal way. Great.

Thank you for watching. is thinking regular, but both sides. And then there's people when you haven't got much to be proud of yet. And it's their self-sufficiency. It's a power. It's really a power. It's a measure of power and self-sufficiency that we manifest among each other. There's very little ground. If you don't know it now, I know you know it just a little better. It's certainly something that God puts in use that certainly is necessary.

It's a great boon to them, you have to have it there in order to get things done, and they go along and do lots of things in their ignorance, and take it for their own strength, and finally when you come to this place where you have your thing, and then you begin to understand that it's by the grace of God that you accomplish these things. I think there's very few people that's ever lived upon the face of this earth, very, very few, that have had self-control enough, self-discipline enough that they have gone to life and haven't made a lot of blundering mistakes. And consequently, I think that we ought to sense it. And I don't like to drive people into despair and make them feel that they're nothing. But I don't know how we're ever going to accomplish the things we need to accomplish in our lives until we see it's a living act. When we see that, then we will begin to understand what we need to do.

And I don't think that you'll ever come to an understanding of these things until you can develop some appreciation for what they'll do for you. For instance, when I see certain qualities and a cause that are being manifest in my bedding, and I see them grow and grow and grow, and then I begin to get some respect for those qualities in another man. And so when I see what the principles of the gospel is done by our Heavenly Father, then I am beginning to get some respect for those sinners. And I had some occasion to think today, and I can repeat it to you, is how great it is, in and of itself, is the ordinance of baptism. Now you take our Gentile neighbors, I think that in their private moments that they hiss and snort at this ordinance of baptism, that people go down and they get some water in.

And then they come up and say that their sins have been washed away. Boy, there's only ridiculousness. And it comes to the wisdom of man, doesn't it? There's an element of ridiculousness. And what appreciation can a person have for second audiences unless he believes, or has a hope, being within his vision, or has a confidence in God? You can't have it. But after you've once partaken of its truth and obtained the blessing, By then your confidence will actually stand, and you can testify with boldness that the miracle is to come. Demons can testify to it. I can testify to it. I can testify to the propriety and the chasteness and the veracity of what the Lord says about the ordinances of baptism. But if we will go into the waters in faith, with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, that our sins will be washed away, because I have had the experience.

Still, I look upon this ordinance as marriage. You talk about respect for a principle? Well, I'm serious. Gracie lived 75 years. She knows all the ways of the world. She took her religion away and she'd look at me and she'd say, Mr. Hammond, have you got to adopt? Would you stand there and tell me that you or anybody else or some other man can take a man and woman by the hand and join them together and feel them for time and all eternity?

That they can come up in some kind of a resurrection and live eternally? Have you got the abacus to tell me that? At what time strange mesmerism are you trying to impose upon my receiving mind? But having had the experience, I know I have got vested in none. I believe I have been concerned about you. Concealed for time and age. I have a profound respect for me and other life and covenant of mine.

And I said, yeah. I've had a bad prism of fire. I've had my body burned so I thought I would be consumed. It wasn't by the power of man either. And I don't care whether they believe it or who believes it, I know it. That's the experience that I have. You people or any other people can do or believe what you please. But I know that I've had it and I know that other men have had it too. I know that Joseph must have had it. I knew that he knew what he was talking about.

Because I knew the same thing by the dictates of the same spirit. And so my Gentile friends can kiss and ridicule and make fun of my pure emotions. And the pure emotions of my friends as long as they want to. But within me, I have a profound respect for the laying on of hands. For the gift of the Holy Ghost, my concern is at peace. If he says no, I'm thankful to the Lord that I'm not alone. Because many of you, brethren and sisters, And you might say, yes, there's people that God is hoping to obtain and have the experiences for them. How could we ever impose or persuade these people to so conduct themselves that they could obtain the Spirit of God unless they obtained it? But that is another ridiculous thing I don't know how to do. For me to say to myself that I can so live that I can obtain the Spirit of the person that I haven't seen before.

Years and years and years, and I couldn't prove to my contemporaries that I had ever sinned. To me, the type of calvary that I obtained was this. For those who would sin, to say to their enemies, and listen to them, probably they would tell them that our enemies were supposed to do it, and the calvary was there confronted with concerning. I couldn't see who I made any difference to. If that, or what they didn't sin, or what they were going to do, or what they didn't do. I have an insurance in me.

the labors and works of our fathers and fathers. I have no concern about their threats or their anticipated operations against us people, only to be wise and true towards them and to overcome them and to take my affairs and go on through and get as many people to come along with me as I can. I've read what has been written by the prophets as a terrible end.

It's going to deceptors that fight against the fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ. And while I know it's ridiculous to them, I believe it. So if it dictates me in relation to many other things, it dictates me in that. That this world is heading for destruction. And they think it's crazy because a lot of people know that they're hacking up an awful deal. But they don't think that they're being hacked up because God has decreed their destruction.

They figured that they had to do it because they got too smart for their business. And I guess they don't. They're on their way. And I'm just as scared with the work of God's recurrence as I am that I'm standing. But these temples that have made our heavenly fathers so great and wise and capacitated to do the same thing for anybody else with their child. I was thinking the other day, things have been said, especially in the Book of Mormon by Father Lehi. And he had that vision of that way.

straight and narrow ways, that the saints had to follow and I would do a tiny turn around. I used to think it was certainly a prison cell, very straight and narrow, there was certainly a lot of people going in. But I can see now that it's a single file type of prison. Imagine if Brother Johnson finds anybody stepping on his feet, he can ask plenty of room, and the people that have gone before him, I imagine they have plenty. But it's a straight and narrow way, because of things that lead to Godhood.

The attributes that are vested in the dogma of our father are a shorn of all the shabbiness and filth and dust that decepts the human being. There are mighty few people, very few people, that want to be that honest, that want to be filled with that much integrity, that have that much love for virtue, that have that with any kind of appreciable amount of love. But it's true. It's pure, naked truth. Oh, yes.

Often said, and it's the truth, that most of my relatives would lie when the truth had spoken better. And how they could ever bring themselves into condition to want to watch that pass would be a miracle. And I'd have to come to the place where they would love the truth better than I would. If you just look at them, this world is filled, literally filled with overflowing love. And I feel just fearful it's going to have more people of the same class. Yes.

Where did you find one of them that loves the pure, naked truth? That's a gift that our Father has acquired by applying the principles of this gospel he's been taught. Love the pure, naked truth. Why is that all? Cheating and lying, such things and all that, and that same category. But how many people have any confidence in the things that I've reiterated to you tonight? In the audience of baptism, which power?

to wash a man's tears he's sinned. And that's the end of that great kingdom of God. How many people can you find that have copies and such a thing? Now those that do are beset by spiritualism or various kinds of damnable doctrines. But there's a way that they're out to be on the great field of the ordinance. Because if they believe in the ordinance, they don't believe in the power to administer it. And they think it must be done. And so that path is very narrow.

How many people can you find that has any confidence in a legitimate priest? A curse, a curse in the eyes of people, a man that is legitimate, bound, because he's bound, as George has said, to reveal the sins and the iniquities of the generation in which he lives. And if he does that, he runs blood. So how many people can you find that can save, cure, treat, cure legitimate society?

You treated me to be the truth. Every nation of the Union participated in the death of the Prophet Joseph Smith. What class was that? Why, that was the politicians. Did you find any of them that believed in legitimate authority? Why, they were trying to perpetuate upon their people illegitimate authority. Why? Why, to have their own dreams and visions and personal dreams realized.

that particular day, why it was to obtain influence over the sea lands and other things, so they could gain to themselves tremendous wealth, and take the advantage of the people. Now, what about this? Hasn't it multiplied a hundredfold in righteousness? And then you want to fix this nation, or this earth, for someone who has respect for legitimate authority? Is it any wonder that we can get them all in Brother Fisher's home? It isn't to me.

It used to be, and I've been around it, and I'm excited about it. I don't know why I can't find out who he is. And I don't want legitimacy. Why? Well, it requires us to lay down. All these things are going big to them, to the traditions of their people, and to their own going on. And they're used. How can you find United States, the team of all the nations of the earth, very many men and women, be sealed together with time and all eternity under the conditions of a new and everlasting covenant. After you've surveyed all these others. Now one of the greatest hybrids to pour and pour upon this priesthood generally, I mean all of the brothers, is living the law of Carol Mary. We've got a lot of men believing that if something shows up in their lives, it's a very ineffective in living that law.

They live with all the poor wives by principle and by the first wife the way they're bound to. And that's the way the world is. They take mistresses and concubines by the dozens. Don't have conditions. They like to go in there. And they don't want to. They don't want to be responsible. They're living after the moon of life.

And so when you start taking away from the people, if your legitimacy is one thing and another, how many can you find? These hearts are still in contact. And you want the kingdom of God to fill your virtue and integrity. I'm governed by all the other things associated with it. As I go along, I am giving a good restitution to you. For you people who have your spark burning within you. If you want to rise up here and bless this place, I am thankful.

I'm thankful for this church and for being born in this relationship. I come here from a spirit of peace. Build up the kingdom of God in the circumstances of their lives. The nature of their spirit. The hungering of their hearts generally is not answered the same way. And it proves to me that this people of the world, the people generally of this church, have a Gentile nature. And they are of the very nature that we are.

Talked about by Mormon, and others in the Book of Mormon days, that the gospel would be offered to them, and talked to them, and said them out. And if they rebelled against it, it's war on to them. I think it's war on to them. I don't think they can stand hardly a hand here. And these 150 million people, love and care. These things that we talk about. I can see why. I can see that there's very few people, certainly people that have any love.

for this rigid way of life. All that they can see is consignment, robbing of their agency, and they haven't the foresight to see that after they've obtained these things, that they have obtained greater agency than they ever could have dreamed of. Women personally defile and complain about a poor relationship because all that they can see is reason.

not having the husband home whom they wanted, they never have any faith to look beyond and see an exiled place in the realms of the gods, so that they can live and dwell and reign forever, and have principalities and powers and dominions and privileges that never entered into their scriptures any time they asked. They haven't got the foresight to see that the Germans that live in this continent that God has so carefully prepared I'm glad to hear that this work might be established and given to them if they want it. I haven't got any hope, any aspirations, or anything beyond the good. So, I'm getting more grateful every day that I live for my assistance. I'm grateful to my God for their integrity. I was thinking the other day, I don't know if I'm just here for God to get a gift of my life. I cannot be controlled by circumstances like this.

Traditions are not everything, except the principles of the God. Politicians are private. Tradition is private. Relatives are private. Everything that can be brought to God. Upon this, I will appreciate, on the days of Jehovah Smith till now, the sorrow to control them. The reason one could not be controlled, the government of the United States tried to control them, and they failed. The only thing that can control them is the principles of the God.

These things that we're beginning to see, they'll be seen next to our eyes. Could John Taylor be controlled? There wasn't anything on this face of the earth, and he could control John Taylor. He slipped out there into the New York Center and New York Hall, two of the greatest newspapers that we've seen at the time, this face of the earth, and tore them to ribbons. No child or level of justice could do it. And Johnson's army started the marching on Salt Lake City.

His cousin's young put him on the pulpit and he called him such names and made such a tirade against him and such bitterness. His other young put him on the pulpit and thought maybe he'd better temper him down a little bit. And he almost went into a rage. I'm going to God's feet. I'm going to God's feet. I'm going to God's feet. I'm going to God's feet. I'm going to God's feet. I'm going to God's feet. I'm going to God's feet.

Every other thing that besought my encounter was in store by Timothy. I fear not, for the golden sick is inspired by wisdom, not by our people to endure. If you love the priest and you pray for the priest, you'll be loving to the priest. And the Lord in you, the pastor of Timothy, came to be added to those who have gone before. For those who left the estate have still been trained to battle at the gate in this great momentous day.

The fate of nations is being laid on the ground, full of people, in the battle of today. The names of the good ones, and of the remembered, from generations of generations. The names of the retarded, and of the remembered, and the loud-mouthed, those that are retarded. The rejections you'll never see, the wonderful opportunities you can build yourself on, during your probationary time with me. This, this existence of ours is not ours.

contemporary good have it to be. Have your day to come and live it up. To enjoy every felicity and everything that's made of our good fortune. I can see where we can use and take the good to benefit all the things that it's decided for through our gentile friends. But if all were taken away, our course would still be the same. Our course, when we come to this earth, is to take up the flesh that's decided for us, Take it to this existence and take it back into the presence of our Father in such conditions that He can add upon it a time and a place. I don't know why, but I feel like at times the Lord has given me some sense of the anxiety that I might have felt in the spirit world. It was in my condition, the condition of my brother in the church, when we looked upon our gate in the middle of the time. They had tires and cataclysms.

to bring these bodies of flesh and bone into subjection. When I see the struggles that we're having, I don't think that I've understood it. I think that we've loaded and we've loaded with our diligence. That our spirit's deep and heated and energized and educated. We came here that we wouldn't see it. We're dictated and prompted by the gospel of Jesus Christ and the dictates of the spirit of our heart. But when we came here, that we wouldn't miss our opportunities to be members of the church.

I don't know whether I can remark it here or not, but I said this. Douglas W. Mussel is the first man of God that I ever laid my eyes. I'm thankful for this day. I was able to recognize him before, whether it's the message he brought to whatever it was. I'm not going to try to say it. I'm thankful that I recognized him. Thank you. I'm so thankful that he was able to recognize the message in his team. He sent...

If you are among your former associates, and if you are surveilling and wandering from the first floor, as far as being centered, I can tell you the life of Roy Johnson, I can tell you the life of William Hill, Better John, Richard Hill, you name them, I can tell you their lives. For they have self-sacrificed days of their lives until I found this piece of the day they were wandering. You will be found. Contextually moved.

I'm not surprised. I've got a different spirit in me and a different nature in me. Gentile contemporary. I couldn't expect them to understand me. See, time and all is time. Because the same spirit doesn't dictate them, it dictates me. We might have qualified themselves on the other side for a body, but they certainly didn't qualify themselves on the other side. Determined to participate in the service of the gospel of Jesus Christ and the business of Jesus. That's what they didn't qualify for. That's the daily confidence that I have in the presence of the Lord Jesus Christ. Praise God. Listen carefully. There is no need for me to see or see through it one way or another. Determined, and there is no reason for it to. We have no time to be pleased with what we've done.

... ... ... ... ... and the follies of the wickedness of those generations. I'm willing to recognize them. Just that, a man up here on some kind of a throne calls himself a governor of the state, and another man votes for being the president of the church. I can say that God is simple. None of God can make it. I shall grant your attention to be such as they are. I'm literally willing to love the gods. I think that they just can do something fun. I told those people time and time again that we should...

Pray to uphold and sustain that power to conduct and benefit. I don't think there is anything about it. We should have to sustain and uphold the power of God. Like the power of God that can uphold us and redeem us and save us and exact us and accept these things. Here is our guide for us to use and calculate into our lives if we change our character and calculate that we will eventually be like you. So here is our hope and aspiration for you.

Well, it's illegitimate love, isn't it? And the only thing that we should love is the Trinity. Churches and churches under the likeness of God. The only thing that we should really love. Love and church. It can bless them. Coming to this world with its broken down ways. Illegitimate processes. Functions. I can say this. And I'll make this one comparison and then I'll say it. I'm thankful that they set the broad way between the priesthood and the church. To have all the poor students.

People have come up to church very deep inside. If they can just feel and see the sense of virtue and propriety, they can tell the ways of this church, it is the ways of God. And they can tell it the way this church is going and has been going for the last 50 or 60 or 100 years, especially. It's not the ways of God. If they've been in the great majority of them, they've been in a state of apostasy ever since they landed in these valleys of the mountain.

And I'd say you could tell it in her day and her kid days, and I can tell it in my kid days. And I can tell it now. My sense of justice, my sense of equilibrium, a well-balanced, a good, sound decision tells me that when I have those comparisons to drive. Not for you women, folks. If you need a little joy, a word of comfort and encouragement. Haven't you got sense of balance and good sound?

judgment in your head to tell you that this is a better way of life than the way the world is going, your love is based on a very steady and pure foundation. While you love cars, you can be wrecked, you can love homes, you can be burned down, you can love judges, you can laugh, and when you're finally about death, you can make it, and I don't know what you can laugh at. But if you can learn to love God, learn to love the principles of life and salvation, If you can learn to love and pray for men, it can exalt you. Then you've got something that you can love eternally. And if your loves are all absorbed, and things that can be destroyed, eventually you're going to find yourself destitute. And maybe you just feel now like my old bitchy self as I told you when I tried to tell him about the goodies and the lows of the gospel. No, and I don't want to do that. If that's your condition, I don't see any remedy.

I certainly think that the worst hell each of you could be brought into would be trying to get someone to try to draw you when you didn't want to be. I recommend that you find some gracious way of buying out and get on your way. And if you have some sense of justice, it still dictates to you once in a while that you have a chance to change it. And it ain't changing your life. It will be multiplied, strengthened, and fortified. And you'll be able to lay hold of any kind of life. That's what I'm saying.

I'm happy to be here, my brothers and sisters, in the spirit of this meeting with you. I'm thankful for the protection the Lord has had over me in the last two weeks. We are very humble and occupy the position that God has placed upon us. To go up in order to get the Lord to have perfect confidence in me. I know that this people are in the same condition.

I want you to look at it in this light. What man or woman among us can confidence in their neighbor and have vested in them a little secrecy or some confidence you placed in them that you didn't want to go any further and then have them break up confidence? How long would it take you to restore confidence between yourselves?

What man has the will that would make an agreement with his brother, and then have a brother break the agreement? Long it takes to re-establish that confidence that he had between him and his brother. I am speaking to a body of people who have made covenants with the Lord. How often have you made covenants with him and then broken? How long will it take you?

to get back into the confidence of our Father in Heaven, to that extent that He can bless you like He'd like to bless you. The Word of God has been given to this people tonight, and I don't want to deviate from that spirit. And what I say here tonight, I want it to be the Word of God to this people. So I'm going to read the Word of God to you.

I'm holding in my hand the Word of God to Latter-day Saints. The Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Christ, and the Doctrine and Covenants. Wrapped together with the Bible is the Word of God to Latter-day Saints. This is what the Lord said. I come quickly, and my reward is with me. And they who have sought me early shall find rest in their souls.

Do you believe it? I do. I read that from the 54th section of the Doctrine and Covenants. I want to read it up to the great prophet Nephi's book. I might be able to quote it to the close, but I'd rather read it. For when Nephi was sent back for the plate to get the record, rather than his father told him to go back and get the record, He told his father that he would go, for he says, I know that the Lord giveth no commandment to the children of men, but he opened the way whereby he can accomplish the things which he commanded them. Ever since I have been acquainted with this work, I have heard the servants of God plead with the people to get the Spirit of God and keep it.

to prepare themselves against the day of judgment, when the Lord would pour out his judgment upon the people and upon the nations of the earth. I have been studying of late the scriptures, not only the ancient scriptures, but the modern scriptures, trying to find out how long we have been preaching false doctrine to this people.

But I want to tell you that the revelations contained in this book, whether they were given for the benefit of the saints a thousand years ago, or whether they were given a hundred years ago, they are the same for the people today. If there's any revelation that was given to one of the servants of God in the days of the prophet Joseph, it applies to the people of our day.

We've got to keep the same commandment, the same word of God, or our salvation is not secure. I'm going to read you a letter from section 105. Therefore, in consequence of the transgression of my people, it is expedient in me that my elders should wait for a little season for the redemption of Zion. Can you see and understand my...

brothers and sisters to reason that we are laboring so hard to get the people to repent and draw near unto the Lord and gain back his confidence that we might be found worthy to receive his blessings when the day of visitation comes and we are called upon to sacrifice even our lives, if necessary, to gain our salvation, that they themselves may be prepared and that my people may be taught more perfectly and have experience and know more perfectly concerning the duties and the things which I require at thy hand. And this cannot be brought to pass.

until mine elders are endowed with power from on high. In our day, ever since the raid of 1944, when the courts of the land brought to light this order of priesthood, I say ever since that time, the elders have been endowed with power to gather the people together and teach them those that would be taught.

the principle of salvation, and you have been captain every time you have gathered together. For behold, I have prepared a great endowment and blessing to be poured out upon them inasmuch as they are faithful and continue in humility before me. Therefore, it is expedient in me that my elders, mine elders, should...

Wait for a little season for the redemption of Zion. For behold, I do not require at thy hand to fight the battles of Zion. For as I said in a former commandment, even so will I fulfill. I will fight your battles. Why should we fear? My brothers and sisters, help the enemies. of righteousness can bring upon us. As long as we know that we are serving God and keeping his commandments, why should we fear to keep the covenant that we make with our Father in heaven and with the servants of God when we know that God is a man of his word and that he will fight our battles if we are faithful.

I want to tell you, my brothers and sisters, that the time is soon here when we will have to try night and day for deliverance. So we'd better start early. Let's start now and not wait another minute to call upon God and to prepare ourselves against the great day that has been spoken about here tonight by the brethren.

Now may the blessings of God be upon you, and may you touch the vision that has been so beautifully portrayed before you tonight, and that you might take new hope and prepare yourselves to receive the blessings of eternal life. God bless you all, I pray in the name of Jesus Christ, amen. I close this meeting by singing on page 214.

Praise God from whom all blessings flow. Sorry, brethren and sisters, that the time is so limited that we can't hear from all the brethren. We'll maybe be able to hear from them next time. We'll ask Richard Jessup to close the meeting after our time. Help us, each of us, to assemble, to put these things into practice in our daily lives, that we may profit their lives, that they may be worthy to receive the blessings promised to the faithful, and not continue in our strife on earth until the time allotted to us shall have been for Christ's sake. This message of our blessings may be assuredly with us until we meet again with faith in the name of Jesus Christ, amen. Amen.

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