Talk of Alma A. Timpson, Salt Lake City, 6 November 1960
6 November 1960
Talk of Alma A. Timpson, Salt Lake City, 6 November 1960
A talk by Alma A. Timpson at a general meeting at the Fischer home in Salt Lake City. The automatic transcript of the opening includes “President Timpson.” The archive file is labeled Alma A. Timpson. The text is an automatic, unreviewed transcript of the recording, lightly paragraphed for reading. The recording itself is the source.
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We'll now hear from President Timpson. Thank you, Sister Blackmore. I earnestly pray, my brothers and sisters, that the Lord will bless me while I stand before you and that I can have the faith and prayers of each of you. Sister Gwen spoke about gratitude, her gratitude in the gospel, and I'd like to continue along that line. I believe a grateful...
people is a humble people. A grateful people is a God-hearing people. And a grateful people is a submissive people. And we have heard much about this subject and still I feel impressed that we need to hear more about it. I've known Sister Glenn for a good many years now. I appear to look as old as she is. The reason is that she has lived like she talks, really believes and means what she says. I'm married to a good man that's trying to do these things himself. We're grateful to have them in our midst tonight. As I sat here by this window, feeling the breezes come through, I didn't know whether they were hot or cold, I was reminded of a few words of Shakespeare. I think we find it in As You Like It.
It's taken from a little song they sang around the bonfire when they were warming themselves out in the forest. Blow, blow, thou wintry wind, thou art not so unkind as man's ingratitude. Although thy breath be rude, although thy breath be rude, thou art not so unkind as man's ingratitude.
Heated contention for office in various political positions in the state and throughout the nation. There has been very little of this spirit of gratitude expressed in what I have read and what I have heard, which has been too much. I wish I had read and heard less, because it smacks of anything but gratitude. I was thinking of all the boastings about what I can do.
speaking of the first person in these debates. What I can do, I am a very self-confident man, and I have been led to believe, my dear brothers and sisters, that faith and self-confidence are two different things. Faith in God and self-confidence are two different things. The world is full of self-confidence, and it seems that the men who possess it the most are those who seem to get the most.
and lord it over their fellows the most. Whereas faith in God is a spirit of submission, a spirit of gratitude, a spirit of willingness to follow the leadership of those who have been designated for our following. That is the contrast of the saints and the world. That is the contrast of the spirit of the priesthood and the spirit of the world.
and it is difficult for us to cultivate the spirit of the priesthood and still be involved in the institutions of the world. It's very difficult to do it. On the other hand, it isn't impossible. We've been told that it isn't impossible, that we can develop our faith in God and still associate to some degree in the institutions of the world. And I would invite you, my brethren, Follow me and my sisters in the thoughts that as we withdraw ourselves from this spirit of self-confidence and call upon God to assist us in all of our daily duties and activities, regardless of what our position and situation may be, that we'll be more successful in our undertaking. When a man is placed in the position, as was George Washington,
He had not much self-confidence. Although he was trained in military schools and had a great deal of the learning of this world, he knew that he as president and leader of this great colonial empire must depend on someone else except himself. And his greatness was in direct proportion to his ability to call upon and receive the will and mind of God.
And that is why George Washington, the father of our country, one of the greatest rebels that was ever known in English history, has become the father of our country and to whom we pay homage. And one of those who appeared in the St. George Temple requesting of President Wilford Woodruff his endowments. It appears that when men are put in a position where they can't fall on somebody else, but they begin to develop what we call gratitude, what we call humility, submission to God. That is why we have such a great leader among us today, a man who has known no other will except the will of God and the priesthood of God, as he has understood it from the beginning of his days, the days that he was born in this. He has submitted himself to priesthood.
as he understood it and i can't help but relate to you what he told me on one occasion and that is when the lord gave him a testimony of the mission and calling of president john y barlow he immediately went to president barlow and said i am your man i have come here to assist you i know that you hold the keys of the priesthood and i am here to work with you and to uphold you to the very best of my ability. And that has been characteristic of President Johnson since he learned about this work. And when President Barlow died, he went to President Musser and told him the same thing, or words to that effect. And when President Musser died, he went to President Zitti and submitted himself. Now, my dear brothers and sisters, this is the way Christ lived when he was on the earth.
There was no mortal man to fall upon, to receive counsel from, after he grew up to the position where he knew that his stepfather Joseph had not much to give him. He learned in his early years, at the age of 12 and probably earlier, his absolute dependence upon God. And he submitted himself to God. And in his submission, he again the ascendancy, of thrones, dominions, and powers to which we can't even contemplate or dream about and can only be shown through visions of the Almighty, the power, the majesty, and the honor to which our elder brother, Jesus Christ, has ascended and is a submission. He's right there at his side. He says, I've learned of your power and your authority that you're my great president.
and I'm your man. I promise to uphold you in all my life, and I am willing to lay down my life for you and for your cause and for my brothers and sisters. This is the spirit of humility. This is the spirit of faith. This is the spirit of the priesthood. Some people think that the only godhood that they can be contemplated is to have other people submit to me.
My godship resolves itself in having other people over the world. They want dominion over other people. And they want freedom, independence to do their own thinking, their own acting, and all other people that they're interested in to be submissive to them. That's the dominion of the world. The dominion of priesthood is the dominion of followership.
following the leader of doing not my will but thine, finding one's legitimate authority and following it. Now, sisters, if you are going to be one with anybody, if you are ever going to be one with anybody, believe me, you will be one with your husband. I don't think you're going to be one with Jesus Christ. I don't think any of you here are going to be one with Jesus Christ. He isn't your husband.
These Catholic sisters think that they are going to be one with him, but they're not. And keep the news around that the brides of Christ have long reverted the universal Catholic Church. He has many brides, many women who have become one with him. You cannot become one with him. There's that strong language. If I am mistaken, I want to be corrected. You will become one with your husband. I'm trying to make a direct connection. I don't do it. Your prayers.
Father, the kind elder brother, not give you help, nor that you don't get from him, unless it's necessary. And he is doing it vicariously for a period, and receive it from your husband. Now, Heber C. Kimball taught this doctrine very clearly. He says, you brethren will receive the Spirit of God, the Holy Ghost, through the apostles. Your sisters will receive it through your husbands. Fathers, are your brothers your legitimate authority?
A woman will receive it from her father until she's taken and adopted out of his kingdom into another kingdom. But it comes from the priesthood, and the girl should be one with her father. Above all, my dear brethren and sisters, a girl should be one with her father until she becomes married to a man holding a priesthood. Is that too much to ask? Is this a strange doctrine? Why not one with her mother, the Holy Ghost's new mother?
she shares in this wonderful blessing with her mother through her father that he holds the priesthood. She is unfortunate enough to have a man as a father or brother who holds the priesthood, and she has to depend vicariously upon the priesthood that's appointed over her. And in this day and age, we don't have much of a church organization, so she comes directly to the council. Her brethren pointed out time and time again.
where you receive your blessings. The blessings come in submission to the scribes over you. In the priesthood issue where Brigham Young made the statement, I am an apostle of Joseph Smith. His blessings, his ordinations to Joseph Smith Jr. could truthfully say, I am an apostle of Joseph Smith. We know that he is an apostle of Jesus Christ. If we don't know that, we should know it. His blessings direct from Jesus Christ. His hands laid upon him.
and see those apostles slipped away. Is it any wonder that Brigham Young understood the doctrines of the kingdom of God, understood the doctrines of the priesthood? Is it any wonder that men who rebelled against him and set up their own doctrines and ideas fell into apostasy? And not long after, my dear brothers and sisters, not long after did men set themselves up for expediency in their own ideas.
gave to the church false doctrines. They could not endure sound doctrine, as Paul predicted would be the case in the latter days. They shall not endure sound doctrine, but shall heap unto themselves doctrines of their own, the commandments of men, and have a form of godliness, but deny the power. Now the whole trouble with this church today, the whole trouble with this church today, this church which bears the name, of deity, is that it will not submit, it will not bow the knee to the priesthood of God. A rank, a rank path of apostasy. There's hardly one doctrine being taught in the church today, or one ordinance, or one ordinance that hasn't been perverted beyond description. And as far as being any vitality, I can assure you there isn't any vitality of salvation, except through the
priesthood that God has designated, through whom this vitality and power of salvation can come. It comes by submission, by faith and confidence in that priesthood. Now, my dear brethren and sisters, let's have enough confidence in ourselves, enough self-confidence to accept the priesthood of God and have faith and confidence in it.
Let's have just that much confidence in ourselves that we will do the things which God Almighty has called us to do through his priesthood. I humbly pray for Jesus Christ.
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